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uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

• darepublic 2y ago
  Chrome has been randomly turning off my ublock origin and I've had to manually turn it back on. Don't you take away my adblock or you'll get the boot! I am willing to escalate this indefinitely, to the point of just not going on to any part of the internet with ads.
• doright 2y ago
  I'd like to know some statistics from before and after this event. Change in browser share if such a thing is recordable (unsure if ungoogled-chromium has a different user agent), received download counts of different uBlock versions (Origin and Lite), difference in Google's revenue as a result of wiping uBlock Origin.
• MinimalAction 2y ago
  I have been using Brave and that has in-built adblocker, I suppose. I have not faced any huge problem yet, and the browsing has been super smooth.
• rayiner 2y ago
  What happened to web standards? Why are we all slaves to Google and Chrome anyway?
• sunaookami 2y ago
  At least uBO can be replaced with AdGuard or uBO Lite but there are a LOT of extensions (over half of mine!) that are still not compatible with MV3. "Imagus Mod" for example or script managers like Violentmonkey. Which is why I switched to Firefox last summer.
• ZetsuBouKyo 2y ago
  The US Department of Justice has a proposal that Google sell off Chrome to prevent a monopoly. This might be a great approach to solve the problem.
• tap-snap-or-nap 2y ago
  Without ad blockers, I will not even browse the internet.
• timonofathens 2y ago
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• baxuz 2y ago
  I've been a happy user of Adguard for over 5 years, on all my devices, so I am luckily unaffected by this. So far it seems to be the only general solution that can inject cosmetic filters into network requests while blocking on a request (not dns-only) level. https://adguard.com/en/blog/mv2-extensions-no-longer-alternatives.html https://adguard.com/en/blog/mv2-extensions-no-longer-alterna...
• almd 2y ago
  My dumb theory is that they’re trying to break up the “monopoly” allegations. But, I’m not sure what the stats are for how many people use ad block blockers like ublock, and are willing to migrate to a different browser because of its loss. On top of that, like others say there are still ad blockers available. Terrible sample size: I moved to FF as soon as I couldn’t use a cookie cleaner for web dev work, and ublock origin.
• pcdoodle 2y ago
  Time to try Brave. Out of the box, it's very nice.
• deleted 2y ago
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• enigma101 2y ago
  There are other browsers you know Brave and such? It really saves you money from all the blocked ads traffic and is not a backdoor/spyware
• deleted 2y ago
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• dogzandcatz 2y ago
  https://mitmproxy.org/ https://mitmproxy.org/ Either Python or PowerShell would work for the scripting.
• Beermotor 2y ago
  Coincidentally Google Chrome is no longer available on a single computing device I own.
• xedrac 2y ago
  Firefox is the way. Chrome may as well be Edge.
• lofaszvanitt 2y ago
  DOJ, time to act.
• xyzabc098123 2y ago
  Im genuinely curious, with all these bashing going around. How is it the fault of ads vendors when website/webapp publishers are the ones that put ads on them? Like one day Wikipedia inserts ads on their pages to keep the lights on. We bash Google for blocking uBlock? I feel like I'm missing out on something. Please help me understand.
• southernplaces7 2y ago
  Odd this. I have ublock on my chrome browser right now and it's running fine.
• LoveMortuus 2y ago
  Meanwhile Microsoft Edge ships with an Ad Blocker both on desktop and on mobile!
• 1dontnkow_ 2y ago
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• rohanashik 2y ago
  If there is a uBlock origin VPN that blocks ad traffic from PC level it will be a good solution. No need to rely on browser plugin. Also it can work on mobile and iPads.
• est 1y ago
  We should have third-party .dll injection plugins. Microsoft missed a lot by not keeping ManifestV2 in Edge.
• leke 2y ago
  How is it still running on Brave then?
  • antonok 2y ago
    https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/ https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/
• Jalad 2y ago
  The last Chrome update also disabled it for me because it's a manifest v2 extension. I use firefox on my personal computers, but might need to switch on my work PCs as well
• whitepoplar 2y ago
  uBlock Origin Lite is still available, thankfully.
  • ssgao 2y ago
    https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/...
  • armada651 2y ago
    But for how long? I'm sure Google is hard at work on Manifest V4.
    • deleted 2y ago
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  • colordrops 2y ago
    What is lost by going to this version?
    • p_ing 2y ago
      The wiki outlines the differences. https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ) https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...
    • desdenova 2y ago
      dignity
    • chrisweekly 2y ago
      custom filters / block lists
      • dowager_dan99 2y ago
        also you'd think that the pushers of this agenda would get real-time updates to things like block lists metadata. God knows they do it themselves several times a day...
• bearjaws 2y ago
  Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit... I migrated off Chrome as soon as this BS story about improving privacy, a joke coming from Google. Then the excuse was "well it improves performance", which they could easily do by marking extensions as low performance. If Google wanted to improve this they have an entire search engine where they could re-rank sites based on privacy and performance. It was never about improving peoples web experience.
  • jjav 2y ago
    > Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit... What makes me sad is that if we go back a handful of years here in HN comments, there were tons of posts assuredly stating google would never do anything like this. Even though it should have been obvious that a company who lives and dies by ad revenue will of course do everything to protect ad revenue and block users freedom.
  • JodieBenitez 2y ago
    > Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit... Thanks, now I have coffee on my keyboard.
  • fpg69 2y ago
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  • colordrops 2y ago
    People have come to accept dishonesty and sociopathy from corporations as normal and even acceptable unfortunately.
    • iAMkenough 2y ago
      I view it as a symptom of the broader effort to villify the fourth estate and condition people to act(vote) on their emotions rather than a rational look at verifiable facts.
• blankx32 2y ago
  Goodbye Chrome, good night
• lifeisgood99 2y ago
  Chrome is no longer available on my machine. It hasn't been for some years now but still.
• perihelions 2y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43262531 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43262531 ("uBlock Origin forcefully disabled by Chrome", 5 days ago, 204 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43099417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43099417 ("uBlock Origin Has Been Disabled", 19 days ago, 40 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43299886 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43299886 ("The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome", 2 days ago, 663 comments)
• fpg69 2y ago
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  • jonwinstanley 2y ago
    It was the pre-roll youtube ad that made me realise ublock was dead :-(
    • dowager_dan99 2y ago
      seeing your first YT ad in a decade is quite the shock!
    • seattle_spring 2y ago
      It is absolutely bonkers how many ads are in YouTube now. Nearly unusable without an ad blocker.
  • nickelpro 2y ago
    You are still allowed and able to block advertisements with extensions.
• ivewonyoung 2y ago
  Does this mean it won't be able to get updates to extension code(not block lists) anymore? I am getting high CPU usage with uBO since yesterday but I do have a lot of tabs so I was wondering if thats a bug that will get fixed.
  • nickelpro 2y ago
    Switch to UBL, the manifest v3 successor to UBO, to continue to get updates, the performance is better too.
• stainablesteel 2y ago
  just another reason to break up the monopoly
  • desdenova 2y ago
    Chrome will now be sold to TotallyNotGoogle, we're saved.
    • fpg69 2y ago
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    • st0nkz 2y ago
      [dead]
    • stainablesteel 2y ago
      that's how it works, there are legal ramifications otherwise
• freedomben 2y ago
  I hope Mozilla realizes (and still cares) that they have a huge opportunity here to be the power-browser where you can get awesome extensions, unlike the locked-down and hobbled Chromium ecosystem. I suspect they do realize this because they've been really leaning into extensions recently, but over the years I've worried that Mozilla's committment to Firefox isn't as serious as I would like. Regardless, I'd love to see this give FF a big bounce in the stats. Something to reinforce that there are people out here that really want manifest v2, badly enough to switch!
  • xnx 2y ago
    Truly the best angle Firefox could take would be to be stronger pro user: block ads, resist fingerprinting, hide annoyances, etc.
  • ToDougie 2y ago
    Firefox has some weird slowness with DNS that I have troubleshot to death. I still use it for almost everything, but sometimes I'll have an entire day of 30s page loading times.
    • recursive 2y ago
      Apologies if this is elementary, but have you tried turning off DoH? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dns-over-https#w_off https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dns-over-https#w_off
      • edoceo 2y ago
        I put this setting in ages ago on my FF profile and haven't seen DNS lag. My biggest DNS lag was before I used PiHole and was relying on my router, which upstream to 8.8.8.8. I've just assumed that little thing was overloaded or that Comcast was just having a "hiccup".
      • jamesgeck0 2y ago
        I see glacial DNS resolution regularly when hitting the AWS authorization page with DoH disabled on my company's VPN. Resolves instantly in Chrome.
• klysm 2y ago
  The shareholders will be grateful! A great victory for google!
• freedomben 2y ago
  I blacklisted Chrome in dnf (the Fedora system update manager) once we hit near the last version to allow manifest v2, but apparently it wasn't enough. They reached in to my system and deactivated/deleted my manifest v2 extensions anyway regardless, even though my version still "supports" them. I'm quite displeased to say the least. Ultimately it's probably for the best though as now my "slow fade" plan has to be accelerated. Time to rip the bandaid off.
  • tomrod 2y ago
    Proton and Kagi have most of the services I've personally needed to de-Google. GCP is nicer than AWS, so will probably keep that around as a paying customer. Only thing I haven't found a great replacement yet for Google Docs (MS office is abysmal, but also lack of testing of alternatives so far :) ).
    • haarolean 2y ago
      I love Kagi's Orion but it's still not good enough yet to switch off chrome completely. You realize this once you delve deeper, install extensions, and use it as your daily driver.
      • tomrod 2y ago
        Looking forward to their Linux port. I should have added FF/Vivaldi to the list.
      • averageRoyalty 2y ago
        I'm curious what you're missing. I don't use many extensions, but it's been my daily driver for a year now, with minimal complaints.
        • haarolean 2y ago
          1) There are a lot of bugs, for starters. I've been using it for many months but had to switch back to Chrome about a year ago due to some unbearable bugs like tabs freezing and sync kept bringing back long-gone tabs. Don't get me wrong, I've reported a dozen issues (I have 50+ started threads on orionfeedback forums), but anyway, I felt like I spent more time reporting bugs than actually doing my stuff. 2) Some needed extensions are broken. It's not like I need that many with weird APIs. Bitwarden has been broken for some time, and Grammarly is still broken (3 years in). I tried the latest version a few days ago given what's happening with chrome rn, there are some annoyances still. I like Orion (kudos to Kagi team for working on it) and want it to succeed, I believe it just needs more time, I guess.
• darkhorse222 2y ago
  I've been using Firefox for years now after being an avid chrome user and I do not miss it at all.
• chrisweekly 2y ago
  Hoping someone can point me to a Chrome browser extension that supports custom block rules. My strange situ involves an IT-managed laptop / browser that can't access certain websites because of their embedded resources (eg fonts) hosted on 3rd-party domains; firewall rules block the embedded content, breaking the (allowed) main site I'm trying to visit. uBlock Origin was perfect: I'd craft custom rules to disallow problematic embedded resources, problem solved.
  • subarctic 2y ago
    Isn't there a lite version of ublock origin that works with manifest v3?
    • dowager_dan99 2y ago
      only gets updated when published and doesn't support custom rules or element picking :(
  • dowager_dan99 2y ago
    I have a similar situation, though for more personal, first-world problems. I used custom rules for things like YT shorts, Jira's giant bar for emoji-responses in comments, etc. I'm not sure there's a good substitute on Chrome because Google's primary intent was to destroy the efficacy of this tooling.
• ge96 2y ago
  Is it actually gone? I thought they just put that warning. I just re-enabled the one already installed on my devices. Once it's legit gone gone though yeah I'm going to Firefox or use Edge for web dev stuff Edit: I will say I am a hypocrite though I am trying to build a following by posting on YouTube... I don't control the ads on there, maybe you do when you are monetizable but yeah sucks I feel bad for the viewers. At the same time... I'll spend weeks/months on a project and no one cares so idk.
  • dowager_dan99 2y ago
    gone for some... many... most.
  • garciasn 2y ago
    I re-enabled it last week but they forced removed it again days later. I re-enabled it by force and it's still working, but it won't be for much longer, I'm certain. https://www.neowin.net/guides/google-turned-off-ublock-in-chrome-but-you-can-still-enable-it-here-is-how/ https://www.neowin.net/guides/google-turned-off-ublock-in-ch... This URL, shared elsewhere in this thread, seems to tell you how to get it back up and running if you cannot do it easily; that said, I'll be moving to FF if they continue their shenanigans.
    • ge96 2y ago
      what does sock I've written a few of my own extensions and they're manifest v2 ugh... but thankfully I was able to turn them back on
• rednafi 2y ago
  Firefox sucks and doesn’t work for me. Maybe I will give Brave with ublock a try.
  • rtgdfm420 2y ago
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  • agosta 2y ago
    You don't need uBlock installed on Brave. Brave basically is uBlock (if uBlock where a browser).
• vivzkestrel 2y ago
  what ll it take to convert 80% of the world wide web users from chrome to firefox. can we write a super duper complicated migrator of sorts that literally installs firefox on behalf of the user, migrates all their data, migrates all extensions from chrome to firefox, even suggests alternative extensions for the ones that are not available and market the hell out of this migrator across x, bluesky, reddit etc?, One click migration from chrome to firefox, 0 tinkering
  • toomuchtodo 2y ago
    The largest web properties pushing Firefox to users, or perhaps social media campaigns. It's an outreach effort, the technical details are already solved. Make the Google/Chrome brand toxic. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/how-to-switch-from-chrome-to-firefox/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/how-to-switch-f...
    • joshuaissac 2y ago
      This is how Internet Explorer (via Windows), Chrome (via Google Search and YouTube) and Safari (via iOS) gained significant market share. Through another platform or service that they owned, that they could use to promote their browser. But large Web properties do not gain anything by promoting Firefox. Many are ad-supported, so getting rid of uBlock Origin is a good thing for them. Only having to test on Google Chrome (and maybe Safari) is cheaper for them. There has to be something in it for them to promote Firefox or an alternative browser.
  • jonwinstanley 2y ago
    Opening FF with my existing 3 windows and 100 open tabs would be all it took :-)
  • maxglute 2y ago
    I'm just hoping for AI coding to get competent enough in next few years to throw in deprecated chrome extensions code and get it converted to firefox.
• lol1290 2y ago
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• stevetron 2y ago
  The source code is available for Chrome. Suppose one downloads the source code, and then re-enables the Manifest v2? A bit of work, particularly when you have to do other things that probably allow it to co-exist with Manifest v3, and Manifest v4 when it comes. And prevent updates from taking it all out again. While working on it, flip the compiler's command-line switch that allows the executable to run on Windows 7. How long after the announced Windows 10 end of life will it be before all the software companies say 'Windows 11 is the minimum' like was seen with Windows 7?
  • fpg69 2y ago
    The source code is available for Chromium, not Chrome. You can always maintain a fork, but it's a lot of work, and it's not a great solution to the problem of "world's largest surveillance company makes world's most popular browser".
  • p_ing 2y ago
    Keeping MV2 going is a massive and unrealistic effort for a small dev group while continuing to incorporate upstream changes. You cannot leave a browser without those upstream changes as they include security patches.
• dgacmu 2y ago
  I've been running firefox on my laptop for the last year, with Chrome on my desktop, as a way to head-to-head them. For folks contemplating the switch, it hasn't been bad at all. Some better, some worse, but overall I rarely notice major differences except for a very small handful of sites that won't work with FF. And I still have all of my uBlock origin happiness. :)
  • theteapot 2y ago
    What sites don't work with FF?
    • mrec 2y ago
      Amazon properties (the storefront, Prime) have been quite flaky for a long time now, but that may just be me.
    • kingnothing 2y ago
      I've been daily driving Firefox for several years. Everything I use on a daily basis works fine on FF, but every now and then you come across some random site that doesn't load or loads poorly.
    • paulddraper 2y ago
      Certainly no major site.
      • hnben 2y ago
        with firefox I had trouble with netflix and youtube. These two sites worked much smoother and consistent on chrome.
      • CivBase 2y ago
        I subscribed to SlingTV a little over a year ago and it did not support Firefox, even with all the DRM enabled. Although that's a problem I blame on SlingTV, not Firefox. It was a known issue which they refused to address. I've since ended my subscription with them. IIRC, there was also a time when Netflix did not support its highest streaming quality on Firefox. I'm not sure if that's still the case since I also ended my Netflix subscription. Otherwise I cannot think of any major site which is not supported on Firefox. Outside my employer's fragile intranet, I can't think of any sites which do not support Firefox.
• prophesi 2y ago
  The adblock I use[0] (based on uBlock) hasn't been available on the Chrome store nearly since day 1. [0] https://adnauseam.io/ https://adnauseam.io/
• phito 2y ago
  I hear so many people IRL complaining about this. I tell them to switch to firefox, that the adblockers still work there, and they still won't switch to it because they are "used to chrome". I really feel like google won this battle. People will through a lot of abuse just to maintain their habits.
  • inertiatic 2y ago
    I use Firefox as my main browser and it's not a viable alternative to Chrome if you have the very common usage pattern of keeping tens of tabs open.
    • rtgdfm420 2y ago
      [dead]
    • lawn 2y ago
      I constantly have way more than that open. On mobile it's also over 100 tabs.
    • theteapot 2y ago
      What? Why? That's me, I use FF.
      • ecuzzillo 2y ago
        You can't see all 50-70 tabs on a normal 27" monitor; Chrome will squish them almost indefinitely, and Firefox forces a large minimum tab width that makes the tab bar scroll forever and then you forget half the tabs you have going and everything's bad. I tried to switch and stopped because of this. I'll hang on until ubo really stops working, I guess, and then try to figure something else out.
        • lostmsu 2y ago
          There's a alternative: the dropdown menu with all tabs.
• chpatrick 2y ago
  This made me go back to Firefox after 15 years of using Chrome personally.
  • misantroop 2y ago
    Zen is a much better fork.
• k0stas 2y ago
  There is still a DOM hack to allow installation by re-enabling the "Add to Chrome" button on the linked page. See "Download and install uBlock Origin in Chrome" on this page: https://www.neowin.net/guides/google-turned-off-ublock-in-chrome-but-you-can-still-enable-it-here-is-how/ https://www.neowin.net/guides/google-turned-off-ublock-in-ch... After the install, Chrome will disable the extension on the next restart but it can be re-enabled .. for now.
• AJRF 2y ago
  I am coming from a place of ignorance, but could uBlock have worked on Manifest v3? It seems like it would have worked, but the danger was over time Google report less and less information to the extension, but as it is today, the extension would have worked the same on v3 as v2? As I say - I am ignorant sorry, its hard to search for an answer to this specific question Edit: Sorry the answer is here: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ) https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...
  • Dylan16807 2y ago
    The ability to run code to decide if a request should be blocked was removed in v3. If it could work in v3 it would have been updated. There are some alternate v3 versions that don't work as well.
• sergiotapia 2y ago
  if you are in tech do your friends and family a favor: Download and setup Brave browser on their device. I haven't seen an ad in years. https://brave.com/ https://brave.com/
  • dewey 2y ago
    Still the same engine as Chrome, so it doesn't do anything against the monoculture of Chromium. Firefox works just as well, admittedly they'd have to install an extension instead of ad blocking being there by default.
    • agosta 2y ago
      This post is about UBlock being blocked on CHROME. Naturally, the folks interested in this development are likely interested in a chromium based browser that does allow blocking ads. Brave is a solid solution here.
  • agosta 2y ago
    It's funny people try to avoid Brave because of the crypto stuff init - like you can totally ignore that (it's not even enabled by default). So in daily usage, it behaves as if uBlock was a browser (rather than a Browser extension). It's great.
• kemono_tigris 2y ago
  Since Chrome discontinued support for Manifest V2 extensions, I’ve switched to Mullvad Browser for browsing ad-heavy websites. It comes with uBlock Origin pre-installed, is open source, and is developed by a reputable company.
• Stagnant 2y ago
  For now you can still bring back manifest v2 support (which re-enables ublock origin if you haven't removed it) by making registry changes. Obviously only a temporary solution, might buy you a few months. Powershell commands to set them: 1. New-Item -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Google\Chrome" -Force 2. New-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Google\Chrome" -Name "ExtensionManifestV2Availability" -Value 2 -PropertyType DWORD -Force
  • alok-g 2y ago
    Thanks! Good to know.
• charliea0 2y ago
  Is there any justification for this beyond increasing Google's ad revenue?
  • djpr 2y ago
    Funny thing is: It’s to prepare for when Chrome is spun off from Google, due to increasing US government pressure. See: https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/08/new-doj-proposal-still-calls-for-google-to-divest-chrome-but-allows-for-ai-investments/ https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/08/new-doj-proposal-still-cal...
  • crazygringo 2y ago
    Performance. For faster page loads. uBlock Origin Lite still blocks ads on Chrome, but it's faster than uBlock Origin. I don't expect Google's ad revenue has changed meaningfully at all, assuming people switch to uBlock Origin Lite.
    • zamalek 2y ago
      The difference is negligible: https://nitter.net/gorhill/status/1792648742752981086 https://nitter.net/gorhill/status/1792648742752981086 (uBOL appears as adblox).
    • gkbrk 2y ago
      It blocks less ads, it's not surprising that it's faster.
      • warkdarrior 2y ago
        I thought the browser would be faster when blocking more ads, not fewer ads.
        • gkbrk 2y ago
          I doubt they're benchmarking things properly. Most likely some flawed "ad blocking speed" that doesn't measure ads and tracking scripts that are loaded / parsed etc. Not even sure it's a valid comparison; are you even an ad blocker that can be compared with another ad blocker if you don't block ads properly. You can get a lot more speedup with an ad blocker that blocks nothing. Ad blocking speed would be 0 microseconds :P
• Havoc 2y ago
  The banner at the top is really selling it >Switch to Chrome to install extensions and themes
• jmuguy 2y ago
  Related if anyone is switching over. I like to run Firefox Developer Edition[0] as my "work" browser, with work related bookmarks, etc. and then regular Firefox for nonwork. This makes it really easy to keep the two separate. I know there's a lot of ways to segment within the same browser but this works well for me. [0] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/
  • EasyMark 2y ago
    I just use multicontainers extension for that sort of thing. It keeps them siloed off from each other. Great for having multiple accounts on sites like bsky and reddit as well.
  • noman-land 2y ago
    FYI developer edition has a ton of additional data collection that I don't believe can be disabled, if that matters to you.
    • eNV25 2y ago
      Isn't Developer Edition just a rebranded Firefox Beta that uses a different profile by default?
      • callahad 2y ago
        Same branch as beta, but with different build flags. Add-ons don't need to be signed to be installed on DevEdition, there's a DevTools button in the toolbar by default, etc.
  • bangaladore 2y ago
    Chromium has a concept of "user data directories" which in theory keep all data isolated to a single folder. You can use a launch parameter to specify what the user data directory you want to use is (so a shortcut). I'm pretty sure Firefox must have an equivalent.
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• aeblyve 2y ago
  If you do not interfere in politics, eventually politics will interfere with you.
• pton_xd 2y ago
  Thanks for keeping me safe, Google! You know better than me what software I should be running on my computer.
  • ta1243 2y ago
    What goes around... We had mainframes and dumb terminals where the work was done in a remote data centre you connected to Then we had the personal computer revolution where the work was done on the box you owned and controlled on your desk Then we moved to the cloud where work is done in a remote data centre you connect to
• portaouflop 2y ago
  https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/releases https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/releases uBlockOrigin “Lite” is a good(?) replacement afaict
  • jeffbee 2y ago
    It's faster and safer and blocks pretty much everything.
• submeta 2y ago
  Abandoned Chrome years ago. Am using Firefox and never looked back. Same with other Google products: Replaced Gmail with Fastmail, Google Docs with Office365 (yeah, I know, Microsoft).
  • fiatjaf 2y ago
    The hardest thing to replace was always search to me, because the usually alternatives (DuckDuckGo, Ecosia etc) always suck. But Kagi made that part so easy it's unbelievable.
    • submeta 2y ago
      Ever looked into Perplexity? Will check out Kagi.
    • alluro2 2y ago
      I'm genuinely curious about why you find DDG sucking compared to Google Search? I've switched ~2 years ago, when I found DDG better in terms of less clutter and not showing ads as results - also, if there are no good results, it didn't push nonsense. But maybe GS improved in the meantime on the quality of results and I'm missing out?
      • mortos 2y ago
        It's always tough to just drop examples, it's very much a "feels" thing. Whether that means the results are truly worse, or maybe presented worse, hard to say. But as a DDG user now I somewhat regularly use the "!G" bang but I never really did similar on Google. That said, here's my current go to example: do an image search for "pixel 9". Almost every picture DDG shows is wrong. That blue color all over the results doesn't exist. Nearly half the results are just the Pixel 8. Maybe a third are "leaked renders". Finding actual correct photos is a needle in a haystack and what's scary is this is a simple case to discern but what other results am I being mislead on. I mainly use DDG but I do believe it is worse.
      • sedatk 2y ago
        For starters, they use a terrible custom font as default[1], and that tells me that they don't have their priorities straight in terms of product quality. [1] https://bsky.app/profile/ssg.dev/post/3lhftw36rac2x https://bsky.app/profile/ssg.dev/post/3lhftw36rac2x
• dartharva 2y ago
  Curiously, it is still working in Chrome on my laptop (running Linux Mint) right now.
• harrytang 2y ago
  It is a good ad blocker!
• crazygringo 2y ago
  Fortunately, at least so far, uBlock Origin Lite works perfectly fine on Chrome. I know people have made a lot of arguments as to why it might not be as good in theory, or why things might change in the future. But so far, ever since I was forced to switch, I have seen exactly zero difference. Lists are updated often enough that I haven't seen anything get through. Adblocking works on YouTube. If anything, pages seem to load even a little faster. I've had no complaints.
  • creato 2y ago
    It's also great to not give basically unlimited permissions to an extension.
    • makeitdouble 2y ago
      This is becoming more and more complex I think. To put it in the flatest way, it's not a given that users trust the platform owner more than some extension providers. In theory that shouldn't be the case, and not trusting a platform that runs natively and has potential acccess to everything we do sounds crazy. But in practice there's only so many platforms, and depending on one's work or environement, not using Chrome isn't even an option. In that context, extensions are the most direct tools the users have to get back some control.
    • fsflover 2y ago
      How about giving unlimited permissions to Google on the web and your computer?
    • pmdr 2y ago
      I think people should be able to do whatever they want on their own machine. If the setting is there, then let me use it for whatever extension I see fit. Sure, make it harder to do so, but don't treat users like children. I can't even screenshot banking apps on my own damn Android phone now.
      • IshKebab 2y ago
        It's not about you being able to do whatever you want on your machine. It's extension authors being able to. Malicious Chrome extensions are a huge problem.
• haswell 2y ago
  After 10+ years as a primary browser, I've been 100% off of Chrome for about 1.5 years now as part of a broader effort to de-Google my life, and things have been going well. It's interesting to notice how much my internal feelings have shifted over the years. There have been a few rare occasions where I had to use a Chromium-based browser, and I felt the same "ick" I used to feel when forced to use Internet Explorer for some reason. Come to the Firefox (and variant) side. The water is warm.
  • dankwizard 2y ago
    "And as I opened Chrome - Well, a substitute but still powered by Chromium - I felt my stomach churn as my vision started to blur. I feel both disgusting and disgusted at what I had done. As an act of repetenance I hastily jot down 'Come to Firefox, we have bacon!'" It's a browser.
  • jessyco 2y ago
    I've done this around the same time and agree. Now google is used as a service (Firebase for example). The only thing I haven't been able to effectively shake off is their Calendar. I know lots of other options are available the issue is connectivity with others.
  • BuckRogers 2y ago
    >The water is warm. Mostly because they're peeing in the pool. Mozilla deleted their promise to never sell its users' personal data.
    • haswell 2y ago
      This is why I mentioned (and variants). While I’m unhappy with the Mozilla situation, Firefox is still a significantly better option than Chrome at this point, and the various forks address any concerns with their privacy policy. One can even self-host their own sync server if so inclined.
    • CivBase 2y ago
      And Google never made that promise to being with. Hell, it's their primary business! Mozilla has done plenty of bad things and they rightly deserve criticism, but options in the browser space are few and Mozilla is considerably less bad than Google. And other Chromium browsers perpetuate Google's control over the web. If you're going to complain about Mozilla when someone recommends Firefox, at least offer a non-Chromium alternative like LibreWolf (or maybe Ladybird someday).
• eYrKEC2 2y ago
  Brave, fork of Chrome. https://brave.com/ https://brave.com/ Ignore the crypto; enjoy the integrated ad-blocking. Most seamless ad-blocking I've ever experienced.
  • phytographer 2y ago
    Amen
  • haarolean 2y ago
    Yeah, ignore the crypto and tons of other stuff about phoning home or doing malicious 'oopsies' things.
    • mubou 2y ago
      For the unaware: https://old.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/ https://old.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_b...
    • e44858 2y ago
      How were they phoning home?
• system2 2y ago
  If I owned Mozilla I'd be blasting commercials full-force about this until all my marketing budget runs out.
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  • MattTheRealOne 2y ago
    Instead, they create a Terms of Use giving them rights to your data and remove the promise not to sell personal data. I love Firefox, but Mozilla either does not understand their users or just loves shooting themselves in the foot. Every time I think they have learned their lesson, they make another stupid decision.
• busymom0 2y ago
  It's funny how on Safari, the webstore link shows a message: > Switch to Chrome to install extensions and themes
• imroot 2y ago
  I've eliminated Chrome from my personal systems when uBO stopped working. Blocking v2 manifests also broke a few extensions that were being developed for my day job: they've spent the last few weeks working on Firefox extensions and are almost at the point where they're getting ready to wipe Chrome from our corporate machines.
  • caminante 2y ago
    Try uBO Lite [0] [0] https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ) https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...
• caseyy 2y ago
  The new uBlock Origin Lite is compatible with Manifest v3 and has the featured flag on the Chrome Web Store: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/...
  • lofaszvanitt 2y ago
    and its a resource hog, sadly
  • croes 2y ago
    But is less capable than uBlock origin.
    • AstralSerenity 2y ago
      Capable enough for most users, however I made the jump as it no longer fit my needs.
    • caminante 2y ago
      Not really. 90% of users won't notice a difference. Here's the feature diff. [0] [0] https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ) https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...
      • dhrm1k 2y ago
        i mean what's the breaking point? why is ublock no longer in the store whole the lite is?
        • croes 2y ago
          ublock is manifest v2, lite is v3. Manifest v3 removed access to certain APIs that where used to alter the websites to block ads
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• ltbarcly3 2y ago
  I switched to firefox a few months ago because of this. However, I just switched back last week. Overall firefox is a better browser. The ability to screenshot in the browser is so useful and I used it 10x per day, not having it in chrome is a real pain. But.. nobody tests on it anymore I think. Lots of popular sites are very slow and laggy with it, including sites I need for work. I don't think this is because of inferior technology, I think I just think nobody spends the time to make sure things work well on firefox. I could split-brain and use chrome for github and some other stuff but that is such a pain when clicking links. The other issue is I think firefox support will only get worse. Their market share is back to where it was in IE6 days and dropping.
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    • phendrenad2 2y ago
      We really need a Slashdot-style meta-moderation system. Certain things always get brigaded, especially anything about the relative merits of browsers. It would be nice to flag people who only show up to downvote and reduce their impact.
• hintymad 2y ago
  Will uBlock Origin Lite[1] a good alternative to uBlock Origin? It is one of the alternatives recommended by the uBlock Origin tea. [1] https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh?hl=en https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/...
• hsuduebc2 2y ago
  "Don't be evil" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_be_evil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_be_evil
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• vlod 2y ago
  Invitation to come join the Firefox side. We have cookies!
• wistlo 2y ago
  When I click the link for this story, Edge (stop laughing. Please.) pops up "uBlock Origin works on Microsoft Edge." (It's already there, Edge, but thank you). Edge is based on Chromium, so would that mean this breakage will eventually apply to Edge as the Manifest changes, uhm, manifest to Chromium-based products? Or is this just a Google Chrome thing? FWIW I keep Firefox around but I have to admit I like Edge's smooth sync of bookmarks and settings across machines and even different platforms. I switched about two years ago when Edge was clearly faster and lighter. It's no longer as lightweight and there are slowly accumulating annoyances coming mostly from some Microsoft Clippy-esque attempts to make some tasks "easier" (mostly via Copilot) but I still prefer it to Firefox. My former employer/retiree benefits site, for example, won't open at all in Firefox. I've considered other Chromium based browsers like Brave but haven't (yet) been sufficiently motivated to switch. (Give Microsoft some time, I expect they'll eshit Edge eventually).
  • MattTheRealOne 2y ago
    Many Chromium-based browsers will keep Manifest v2 support for a while. But eventually the upstream Chromium codebase will diverge enough that it becomes too much work to keep it and they will be forced to drop it as well.
    • agosta 2y ago
      The manifest situation simply doesn't apply to Brave in relation to adblockers specifically. That is, Brave will function like uBlock without having to install uBlock as an extension - that's kinda the whole point of Brave (blocking ads / making them opt in only). That said, it is true extensions one may use that are affected by the manifest version change may be affected in Brave.
      • haarolean 2y ago
        Hey there, nice shilling for brave. 1 thread, 4 comments!
• fortran77 2y ago
  It's still working on edge, but I wonder how long that will last.
• NoahZuniga 2y ago
  It's been like this for quite a while already
• vemv 2y ago
  What's the best next choice if I don't want to move away from a Chrome-like experience? (Old habits die hard) There's https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium - is it a sound choice nowadays?
  • zamalek 2y ago
    After the enterprise grace period the code will be deleted from the project. You can expect a fork to appear that patches it back in (I doubt ungoogled chromium would be where that is done), but eventually that will become a nontrivial process. You have a year, maybe two. There are many chromium-based browsers that have built-in blocking. The Firefox UI is honestly very close to chrome.
• egurns 2y ago
  At the time of writing this comment, 53 minutes after OP, I am able to install- and use- uBlock Origin from the Chrome Web Store. What am I missing?
• gloosx 2y ago
  I've been personally enjoying Ghostery extension for the past year, block all ads, youtube, any HTML5 player, banners, popups – really clean and tidy browsing experience. It didn't even catch any hype regarding this manifest support issue uBlock origin has, and it keeps silently working good without any interruptions, I wonder why is that?
  • noname120 2y ago
    Because Ghostery belongs to an analytics company that sells your data so they are working round the clock to keep it running
    • yard2010 2y ago
      Honest question - let's say you can't physically experience ads. Why do you care about your data being sold? This is a problem only if you can see ads, but remember, you can't.
      • Nextgrid 2y ago
        The data can be used for more than ads - it can be used to adjust prices, etc.
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• DeathArrow 2y ago
  Do no evil!
• byearthithatius 2y ago
  This is why I run Firefox and will continue to do so. Google Chrome sucks I only have to to test stuff.
• jmyeet 2y ago
  What's frustrating to me is how predictable all this is if you analyze the world with a materialist understanding. To boil it down, the most dominant philosophy, whether peole know it or not, is idealism. In idealism, people, nations, corporations, etc have some inherent quality beyond their physical make up. It's almost spiritual in that way. Even the concept of a soul is an idealist position. It's largely a circular argument that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. So, the USA on the world stage is the good guy because we are the good guys, regardless of our actions or the consequences thereof. So an awful lot of effort is spent to label certain actors as "good" or "bad" to suit some objective. Superhero movies and a perfect example of idealism and it's no coincidence that they've had a renaissance since 9/11. Materialism is simply the view that the physical world is all there is. The consequence of this is that we affect the material world and it affects us. There are no inherent qualities like being "good" or "bad". Instead, those are simply labels you apply to the actions of an entity. My point here is that for years Google pushed this good guy narrative (ie "don't be evil") but any materialist understands that Google is a corporation so ultimately will act like any other corporation. Google makes money selling ads. Ad blockers affect Google's bottom line. The relentless pursuit of increasing profits means fighting ad blockers was always an inevitability. Nobody should be surprised by that. Now some will point to Google's control of Chrome as an antitrust issue and it probably is but that misses the point. A corporation that solely owns Chrome will ultimately act in a user-hostile way too because that's what corporations do. The only long-term successful model for something like Chrome is to be something like the Wikimedia Foundation. The profit motive will always ultimately destroy it otherwise. If you can even find a business model for a browser, which I have serious doubts about. A materialist knows all this because of how the workers relate to the means of production. A collective (which Wikimedia Foundation is, basically) is where the workers own the means of production. A corporation introduces capital owners whose interests are in direct opposition to that of the users.
• Animats 2y ago
  Surprising to see that happen just as Google is entering an antitrust breakup.
  • zamalek 2y ago
    Get it in while they still can, I guess?
    • telotortium 2y ago
      Yep, in a negotiation, it usually helps to establish a status quo favorable to you if possible.
• rmoriz 2y ago
  Switched to Firefox a year ago, no regrets. Only flashing devices via webserial (Meshtastic etc) is missing for me.
• dbg31415 2y ago
  uBlock Origin still works in Firefox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin... And you can, I believe, still just modify your hosts table to block out ads in Chrome. https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts Or your router's DNS using something like NextDNS. https://nextdns.io/ https://nextdns.io/ Ads suck. Support content where you can, but even when you pay they still serve ads / tracking scripts. So fuck 'em. Block all the ads.
• vezycash 2y ago
  Major DOJ Antitrust Cases 1. United States v. Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey (1911) - Duration: 7 years (1904–1911) - Outcome: Standard Oil was ruled an illegal monopoly and broken up into 34 companies. 2. United States v. Microsoft Corp. (1998) - Duration: 4 years (1998–2002) - Outcome: Initially ordered to split, but after appeals, Microsoft avoided a breakup and instead agreed to business restrictions. 3. United States v. AT&T (Bell System) (1982) - Duration: 8 years (1974–1982) - Outcome: AT&T agreed to a settlement, leading to the 1984 breakup into seven "Baby Bells" to increase competition.
  • hnben 2y ago
    does google have a good relationship to the current administration? I am not aware of a google-lobbyist being as close to trump as Zuckerberg and Musk are, and I definitely see the possibility of these two manipulating the administration against google.
  • downrightmike 2y ago
    And the DOJ is still holding that Google must break up
• odieldomanie 2y ago
  On Firefox, I use a uBlock Origin script to block Twitch ads. (Normal filters don't work on Twitch.) Is it possible to block Twitch ads with uBO-Lite as well?
  • intermerda 2y ago
    Do you mind sharing which uBlock Origin script you use for blocking ads on Twitch? I tried one a while ago but didn't get it to work.
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• BuckRogers 2y ago
  I moved to Adguard years ago when I found that uBlock Origin Lite doesn't support custom filter lists. If Adguard can support that on MV3 then uBlock Origin is artificially gimping uBOL on Edge/Chrome.
  • XzetaU8 2y ago
    Re Custom filter lists https://adguard.info/en/blog/review-issues-in-chrome-web-store.html https://adguard.info/en/blog/review-issues-in-chrome-web-sto...
    • BuckRogers 2y ago
      That's interesting. I'm using the Adguard from the Edge store, so I still have custom filters enabled. Seems only people using the Chrome store version have been updated with that change. Also sounds like Adguard is purposefully not pushing the latest version to the Edge store to avoid issues like this. They did say they'll get the issue resolved in time. I use another extension that requires a filter list or things start to go haywire. I'd probably give up that problematic extension before going back to Firefox. Reading that, I am still sticking with Adguard over uBO because it does sound like they are at least trying to implement these things. uBO is just pointing people towards FF.
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• bradgessler 2y ago
  Stop using Chrome.
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• lousken 2y ago
  This was to be expected, however I am curious if Vivaldi, Brave and others will make their own webstore which will have plugins like ublock origin, and how long till Mozilla follows suit.
  • indrora 2y ago
    Google aggressively makes it hard for Chromium derivatives to not conform to Google's engineering choices. They could try and keep manifestv2 support for a while, but they will have an increasingly large and hard to support patch se to make manifestv2 work still.
    • IvanAchlaqullah 2y ago
      Indeed. When I tried to add LibRedirect (another extensions that are not possible under Manifest v3) to Vivaldi, DNS over HTTPS suddenly stopped working. After checking the settings page, the settings to turn it on are completely disabled. Turn out this is one of few trap in all Chromioum browser that are hardcoded by Google. Well after searching, you need to edit registry (yikes!) and add "DnsOverHttpsMode" and set it to "safe". Problem solved, right? NO!!! Do that and suddenly your browser wouldn't load any page at all! Turn out you also need to set "DnsOverHttpsTemplates" too. It just so happen, somehow, there is no documentation that mention this in "....Mode" help page. Surely Google is not being evil in here, right? Right?
  • johnisgood 2y ago
    Time to reply to https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/91160/vivaldi-s-own-extension-store/20 https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/91160/vivaldi-s-own-extensio... or something.
• johnisgood 2y ago
  Same with uMatrix: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/umatrix/ogfcmafjalglgifnmanfmnieipoejdcf?hl=en https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/umatrix/ogfcmafjalg...
• catigula 2y ago
  We have to put some of this on Firefox for failing to remain competitive in the engineering arena. If it's too expensive to develop a viable alternative to chromium, just say that. The Firefox that has been trundling along for years is really just an excuse to keep the chromium monopoly afloat.
• dmead 2y ago
  Makes me happy I never used chrome.
• Am4TIfIsER0ppos 2y ago
  How long do you reckon before firefox/mozilla follow suit? Weeks? Months? Years? A year is my guess.
• zfg 2y ago
  uBlock Origin always worked best in Firefox anyhow: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
• tech234a 2y ago
  This removal can be bypassed until June (edit: or possibly even August) by changing some flags or setting enterprise policies: https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1itw1bz/end_of_support_for_ubo_on_chrome_chromium/ https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1itw1bz/end_o...
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• kingstoned 2y ago
  Meanwhile scam cookie stuffing extensions like Honey are 'featured'
• deadbabe 2y ago
  Use Brave, it’s been many years and people have few complaints.
• bigbuppo 2y ago
  Monopolists gonna use every anti-competitive tactic in the book to protect their racket.
• JimmaDaRustla 2y ago
  How long until other chromium browsers follow suit? I'm currently using Edge. I also wonder when someone one will "hack" chromium to run whatever extensions they want - I could build my own extension, or build uBlock Origin from the source (if available) and execute the extension regardless of the store.
  • pmdr 2y ago
    A lot of Chromium browsers use Google's extension store, so even if they're not as strict about it now, you won't be able to install it anyway.
• Deprogrammer9 2y ago
  sideload it! mine is working fine still.
• buyucu 2y ago
  the internet is unusable without uBlock origin. I would never use a browser that did not support uBlock.
• sorenKaram 2y ago
  This happened to me so I just switched over to Adblock Plus. https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/adblock-plus-free-ad-bloc/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/adblock-plus-free-a... AddBlock is still available. I was wondering if there is some issue with the extension itself that it got flagged? Maybe an update to the codebase would make the extension installe-able again?
  • the_af 2y ago
    Wasn't Adblock Plus the plugin to be shunned because they allowed certain ads as long as the advertisers paid them money? I remember a scandal like that a few years ago, but I might be mistaken since there are many similarly named plugins. uBlock Origin didn't have this problem, which is why it got recommended so much.
    • Chaosvex 2y ago
      You're not mistaken. They had a default enabled whitelist of advertisers that were paying them to be there. Basically a racket.
• m4rtink 2y ago
  So they really want to get broken up due to shady advertising deals. :-)
• pete1302 2y ago
  I was here, I saw the crime
  • pmdr 2y ago
    The crime has been years in the making, this is just burning the body.
• kenanfyi 2y ago
  As a person who switched constantly between browsers (except Chrome, never used it after 2015) in the past 10+ years, I can confirm that realigning the habits are not that difficult. Learn to use the web, not the tool to browse it. So, switch to something which has privacy respecting attitude or at least tries to have it and ditch everything who does not. It is not just the browser itself, but also the services and tools that you use to do your job: browsing. After some time, you will realize how horrible browsing the web with Chrome was in this respect and how easy it is to just browse the web without a bloated piece of advertising machine.
• loughnane 2y ago
  I desperately want to pay for a browser that caters to me
  • phendrenad2 2y ago
    Google is betting hundreds of billions of dollars against you being able to do that.
• atum47 2y ago
  On kinda related news: Firefox don't allow you to set the default homepage. What's up with that?
  • ac29 2y ago
    Works fine for me. Settings > Home > Homepage > Custom URL
  • atum47 2y ago
    I've moved from chrome to ff because of ublock extension, but I also have an app that remembers of stuff set as my default homepage, the other day I realized that ff don't allow for a custom home page. That why I left the comment above, I think they are somewhat related
• nine_zeros 2y ago
  Use Brave browser - both on phones and laptops. The ad-free experience will change your perspective on what internet looks like. You won't miss Google.
  • phendrenad2 2y ago
    It's amazing that every post about Brave gets downvoted. I wish the downvoters would explain why they're doing this, but I guess they aren't very... brave.
• aerhardt 2y ago
  I have it installed on Arc and it still works, I guess that's expected but it will degrade soon? I love Arc but I'd better not see an ad or that will be reason to jump ship. I pay for quite a few web services I like (eg, Youtube) but I'd drop a bollock if I saw a display ad on the open web.
  • fraXis 2y ago
    If you like Arc, I suggest trying Zen Browser. It looks and behaves just like Arc, but it has the benefit of upgrades and support. Arc Browser has almost been abandoned because they are working on a new product. https://zen-browser.app https://zen-browser.app
    • aerhardt 2y ago
      I'll keep it in mind thanks.
• bryanhogan 2y ago
  I have moved to Firefox since the announcements that Chrome won't allow must have extensions such as uBlock. That Firefox allows extensions both on desktop and mobile is great. But there are some things that I miss from Chrome, especially for web development. In Chrome it is possible to adjust the CSS of grid and flex containers within the developer window, which can be helpful. Firefox and Firefox Developer Edition don't have this. Firefox also seems to sometimes have problems with reloading a page when it is changed during development, whereas in Chrome this always was instant. Then there are some small feature and UI differences, like the reading-mode on Firefox is nice, but the UI of Chrome feels just a bit nicer.
  • ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
    Now you are a real developer.
  • moritonal 2y ago
    I have Firefox for normal use and then Chrome for Web development. Simple enough.
• anjel 2y ago
  Just curious, has google solved the ads-as-malware-vector of infection?
• ein0p 2y ago
  Uh, do Brave users need to sideload now? What about updates? Any official guidance from Brave on this?
  • antonok 2y ago
    uBlock Origin is available from brave://settings/extensions/v2; see https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/ https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/
• nilslindemann 2y ago
  For the moment I can still see the "Add to Chrome"-Button on that page in Ungoogled Chromium :)
• m4r1k 2y ago
  Today marks my last day as a Chrome user. And fellas I encourage y’all to switch away from Chrome
• cratermoon 2y ago
  But hey! We got command and commandfor in HTML! Progress, amirite?
• throw7 2y ago
  The only chrome browser I'm using is on a cheap chromebook I bought. It looks like I could turn on the linux vm and run firefox, but it "only" has a 16GB ssd of which like 12GB is "system space" (ridiculous) and I only have 1GB left which isn't enough to enable the linux dev environment. I could look into seeing if I can get native linux on the hardware, but it's probably not worth the time and trouble for it.
• grimblee 2y ago
  Just stop using chrome, fight the monopoly, don't be a sheep. It's inconvenient ? Convenience is a trap, stop giving away your freedom and agency for convenience.
  • ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
    This. The fact that so called "hackers" would be using Chrome is the reason why the world is shit and tech is stagnant. They keep using Chrome and writing Javascript.
  • simpaticoder 2y ago
    This sentiment precludes discussion of incentives, the individual's relationship to the group, and the practical limits of agency. If you said the same about smartphones, you would be locked out of many services, including governmental ones. You unthinkingly, tacitly shift the onus onto the individual, which is naive. There is a reason the 5-day work-week, fire codes, and so-forth had to be legislated, because "just find a better job" wasn't going to make a dent in the problem. "Just find a better browser" is similarly ineffectual.
    • grimblee 2y ago
      I do not deny that the system need to change but I disagree with saying "we have no agency", I think that like everything in life it's a balance of the two and you definitively can, as an individual, decide to use less convenient options like waterfox or librewolf that respect your privacy and do not try to enforce propaganda (or ads) unto you. And I think in this case, with one of the most powerful company in human history being the perpetrator, you can wait a long time for the system to change.
    • superkuh 2y ago
      Being the change you want to see in the world is not a bad thing and should always be the first step before bringing up coercive force for others. There are better browsers and there are other options and not changing your own behavior first due to ignorance and acceptance of the status quo is not cool. I feel the same way about smartphones, by the by, and it is very possible to live without them. I don't even carry a dumb phone with me. It's not impossible for me. It may be infeasible for you and your life situation. But I'm sure there's plenty of me's out there.
• raajg 2y ago
  Time to set up Pi-Hole on my Rapsberry Pi 4 https://pi-hole.net/ https://pi-hole.net/
• bhrlady 2y ago
  There are only two business models on the web: either you pay for your browser, or someone else does. This is why Orion is entirely user-funded, and can continue serving users by prioritizing privacy, control, and features like powerful, built-in ad-blocking. Not third party deals, ads, or any other incentive to corrupt the user experience and overall quality. (Disclosure, I work for Kagi, creator of the Orion browser.)
  • kccqzy 2y ago
    There are only two business models on the web: either you pay for your content, or someone else does. And that someone is usually advertisers. Blocking ads while consuming content upsets that business model. That's why Brave Browser's BAT is a fundamentally good idea marred by terrible execution. On the other hand I do not believe built-in ad-blocking in the browser can ever become mainstream for that same reason.
• cytocync 2y ago
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• dredmorbius 2y ago
  An interesting day on which to impose this restriction, given: "DOJ: Google must sell Chrome, Android could be next" <https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/03/doj-google-must-sell-chrome-android-could-be-next/ https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/03/doj-google-must-sell-...> HN discussion: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43323485 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43323485>
• codedokode 2y ago
  Note that Google Chrome contains features that allow sharing your interests with advertisers and "measuring" ads performance. It looks more and more as ad browsing client rather than a web browser: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/13355898 https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/13355898
• ur-whale 2y ago
  If are unfortunate enough to still use Chrome, please read: https://contrachrome.com/ https://contrachrome.com/
• exiguus 2y ago
  Consider discontinuing the use of Google, AWS/Amazon, X (formerly Twitter), Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and ChatGPT if you value freedom. There are numerous excellent alternatives available.
  • mulakosag 2y ago
    Good luck with AWS. You need to stop using the internet. Are you going to check IP address of each website's web server you visit?
  • isaachinman 2y ago
    Out of the loop. What's the story with WhatsApp? Backdoors?
    • pndy 2y ago
      Some say it's enough it landed in meta hands few years ago.
• lakomen 2y ago
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• benkaiser 2y ago
  As a developer, the one feature I really love in Chrome is PWAs. But Firefox abandoned PWA support years ago, and seems to have no appetite for adding PWAs back[1]. Maybe I'll just have to split my usage across PWAs in Chrome (since I trust those apps/websites anyway) and Firefox for general browsing. [1] https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/bring-back-pwa-progressive-web-apps/idi-p/35 https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/bring-back-pwa-progress...
  • dahpu 2y ago
    They seem on bringing it back one way or another [1] and there is also a workaround utility [2]. [1] https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/how-can-firefox-create-the-best-support-for-web-apps-on-the/td-p/60561 https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/how-can-firefox-c... [2] https://pwasforfirefox.filips.si/ https://pwasforfirefox.filips.si/
    • benkaiser 2y ago
      Thanks for sharing, I wasn't aware of that blog post. That said, their approach sounds kind of disheartening. I love being able to use extensions within my PWAs (primarily uBlock Origin, obviously), and some Android Chrome forks (Kiwi/Mises) let me do this, while still letting me feel like I'm in a dedicated app (i.e. no browser chrome at all). The firefox team really seem to stress here that they want to keep the chrome around the app (albeit different), which really feels like it goes against the grain of what I expect a PWA to be in the first place (a chromeless website).
• firebot 2y ago
  works fine here, though it says it "may soon no longer be supported" Edge store doesn't even mention that, in fact it's featured. I switched to edge canary on my phone because the dev options allow you to install extensions by id/crx, which I've used to get ublock origin, though it crashes sometimes, and doesn't work when you reload the whole browser, until you refresh the page or manually reactivate the extension....
  • xnx 2y ago
    Kiwi browser is also good for adblocking on Android.
    • XzetaU8 2y ago
      Kiwi Browser is officially discontinued https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1i86ybn/kiwi_browser_is_officially_discontinued/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1i86ybn/kiwi_brows...
      • xnx 2y ago
        Oh no! Thanks for the info. I'm assuming Edge on Android has all the crappy tracking and dark patterns of the desktop version?
        • XzetaU8 2y ago
          https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/el/reports/com.microsoft.emmx.canary/latest/ https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/el/reports/com.microso...
        • zamalek 2y ago
          FF mobile has mv2 support, as does its many forks.
          • xnx 2y ago
            Yes. I used Firefox on Android for a long time, but I was annoyed by the performance and inability to save page as MHTML (that's a very niche peeve).
• 5etho 2y ago
  how about vivaldi? original developers from Opera? I totally forgot about it in last 5 years, ayone using it?
• sotix 2y ago
  This is the death of the hacker. We have allowed new heights of power and unchecked control decide they know better than us. We are no longer allowed or trusted to make choices in our best interests. Many practice apologetics for why this is necessary, pointing to Apple and Mozilla, as if that doesn’t make this change any less devastating. It was a great run. The silver lining is it can be the birth of a new generation of hackers. This generation’s version of the printer inspiring those who refuse to accept the hostile hand they’ve been dealt. Tech doesn’t have to be this way. You don’t have to accept these changes. Rebel! Start hacking away. Don’t join these companies. Found new ones that prioritize valuing users first forever. It’s a difficult task. But all difficult tasks we’ve solved were.
  • pmdr 2y ago
    > Many practice apologetics for why this is necessary Sadly, on HN, of all places...
  • timmg 2y ago
    > We are no longer allowed or trusted to make choices in our best interests. Ironically (or not) this is the Apple side of the Android/iOS debate. And most people are happier with iOS. (And use Macs over Linux, FWIW.) [I probably shouldn't mention that I personally think adblockers are unethical :) ]
    • sotix 2y ago
      > And most people are happier with iOS. Source? > And use Macs over Linux, FWIW. This could be explained by marketing. > I personally think adblockers are unethical Do you think ads are ethical? For a relevant example, how about an Apple ad that successfully uses emotion to convince you to buy a Mac instead of a Linux computer that would better suit your needs at a better price hypothetically?
      • timmg 2y ago
        > Do you think ads are ethical? Generally, yes. Ads are an important function of commerce, tbh. False ads, of course, are not ethical. But we do have laws in that area (not that people don't break them.)
• Funes- 2y ago
  Just use Brave if you can't be bothered to use some extremely ethical alternative that's harder to set up. It blocks everything out of the box. Now, if you do worry about supporting more ethical browsers, try qutebrowser (with some greasemonkey scripts added in).
  • ripped_britches 2y ago
    Wouldn’t trust those folks at all TBH. Too much sketchy sketch
  • niedzielski 2y ago
    Brave has a history of very concerning behavior: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#Controvers....
• theLegionWithin 2y ago
  just run a pihole. superior to a browser plugin in every way
  • bashy 2y ago
    Until you want to allow a site.
• Ecko123 2y ago
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• baud147258 2y ago
  When Google nuked the (manifest V2) extensions I had on Chrome, without letting me export their settings (custom filters for ublock origin, RSS reader feeds), I bit the bullet and switched to Firefox.
• djtriptych 2y ago
  Yup they finally got me to switch to Firefox
• h14h 2y ago
  Is there anything preventing the creation of an independent marketplace for chromium extensions? I haven't used Chrome itself in years, but have had a hard time giving up Chromium-based browsers due to the rendering performance. It's always felt weird that the only way of getting extensions on these browsers was via the Chrome Web Store. If there are viable alternatives I've not heard of, I hope folks let me know.
• 01jonny01 2y ago
  I use skipvids.com now. No ads and background playback
• vachina 2y ago
  And that is precisely the moment I migrated to Firefox, together with my entire family. Chrome is dead. Long live Firefox.
• Cub3 2y ago
  Why not swap to dns blocking with NextDNS or something similar? Take it out of the browsers hands?
  • qwerpy 2y ago
    That’s not enough. Many sites serve ads from the same domains that they serve content from. Google, meta, etc. You need to have extensions that can parse the DOM and remove content from it.
• dogzandcatz 2y ago
  Idea/Question/Possibility If uBlock Origin uses filters, would it not be possible to build a program that acts as a "proxy" for Linux/macOS/Windows, etc., that uses the same or similarly crafted filters to do something akin to what some of us did back in the Flash LSO supercookie days? I was a Linux user then and I recall creating a symlink from .macromedia and .adobe to /dev/null. The cookies were written to their folders but went into the event horizon of /dev/null and I never had to worry about them, but the websites worked like a charm. Maybe I'm wrong, but would it not be possible to use filters similar, or even different than uBlocks, to "symlink" the addresses to /dev/null or other bit bucket like NULL on other OSes? I write automation code, so I don't have the chops to develop such a program/project, but I can see it in my head "how it might work". Thoughts, ideas, criticisms welcome. I've also taken to using Violent Monkey and scripts to block quite a bit of nonsense on the web. Violent Monkey and the iFrame blockers work well with YouTube. I suppose it's also a matter of time before things like Violent Monkey are removed as well. There has to be a way to proxy the traffic through a filter list and /dev/null the offending objects.
  • ajolly 2y ago
    AdGuard does this
• hit8run 2y ago
  How fitting: I am also no longer available for Chrome. Safari on the Mac and Firefox on Linux and Windows it is for me.
• bsdice 2y ago
  The future and maximum freedom lies in open source, where a team of dedicated users or developers actively de-enshittifies products. If you are on Arch Linux, try ungoogled-chromium: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ungoogled-chromium https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ungoogled-chromium or precompiled https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ungoogled-chromium-bin https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ungoogled-chromium-bin possibly with https://github.com/NeverDecaf/chromium-web-store https://github.com/NeverDecaf/chromium-web-store and possibly using a .config/chromium-flags.conf like this: --extension-mime-request-handling=always-prompt-for-install --enable-features=AcceleratedVideoDecodeLinuxGL --wm-window-animations-disabled --animation-duration-scale=0 Timely updates, team defending manifest V2, no user data stealing or background scanning b/s, browser as it should be. Got a 10 year old machine with Intel iGPU and even video acceleration in the browser works.