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Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM
- frogperson 1mo agoThe only good thing that might come out of these extreme memory shortages is forcing careless developers to actually care about resources for once.
- iamcoder18 1mo agoThis article seems to be underestimating how much RAM a weather app should take. A well thought-out, native Weather app wouldn't take more than 100 mb of RAM.
- lousken 1mo agoI am pretty sure xfce4 weather plugin takes a lot less.
- Throwthrowbob 1mo agoLooks like about 30 MiB with a quick test.
- lousken 1mo agoAnd that includes gtk3 bloat I am assuming, gtk2 would be even better. But 30MB for a weather app sounds acceptable to me.
- karmakurtisaani 1mo agoThis has strong "How much could a banana cost? 10 dollars?" vibes. Back in my day 100MB was all you had for all your compute, and somehow programs still ran.
- big85 1mo agoLumiWeather for AmigaOS runs on 2 MB RAM.
- drdaeman 1mo agoESP32 in my OpenSprinkler pulls the weather (among a few more things it does) just fine and it has 520 kilobytes or RAM total.
- 2Gkashmiri 1mo agoWindows really I'd shitty for "assuming" unlimited ram, storage, processing, internet budget for them to get away with it. They "could" make it easy but why bother? I assume next update will make calculator 1 gb download, 2gb ram resident and ADS
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- kevin_thibedeau 1mo agoWhen RAM was $100 per MB that would be $10,000. You can do a weather app in much less provided you use native code.
- whynotmaybe 1mo agoBack in my days, I had to remove the mouse driver from autoexec so that microprose grand pirx had 600kb of ram to start
- SV_BubbleTime 1mo agoHad to get a ride to drive floppies with corrected config.sys and autoexec.bat files around to friends. Things weren’t actually worse.
- iinnPP 1mo agoPersonally, I have reverted back to sneakernet in a lot of what I do.
- e2le 1mo agoWhat is the weather app doing that it requires 100MB? For such a simple application, that seems excessive.
- kevincox 1mo agoMostly rendering. A bunch of images, text, UI elements. On a modern high resolution display it adds up quite quickly. You can surely cut it down a bit, but 100MB isn't absurd.
- charleslmunger 1mo agoA weather widget using 8 bit color plus alpha on a 4k display show three full size images in 100mb. But I suspect that's not the ux we're talking about here, and a widget style system has no excuse.
- satvikpendem 1mo agohttps://wttr.in/ https://wttr.in/ shows it's very possible.
- kalleboo 1mo agoThe display on that page is literally broken for me, the boxes are all misaligned. It seems like it can't handle Japanese text correctly. Properly working localization in dozens of languages is one of those things that adds "bloat" to modern software that was missing in the bad old days.
- satvikpendem 1mo agoUnicode doesn't require 100s of megs.
- galad87 1mo agoApple's Weather app has an animated background, glassy views, and nice animations like water droplets on the glassy views when it's raining. So rendering all that on a 4k or more display at 10bit depth is going to consume a bit of RAM. However I guess it can surely be improved to make it consume less RAM.
- p1mrx 1mo agoMy favorite '90s weather app was WetSock. The installer was 1.5MB, though I don't recall the RAM usage. It showed a sunny/cloudy/etc. icon in the system tray, with the temperature in a tooltip: https://web.archive.org/web/20010210023051/http://www.softseek.com/Education_and_Science/Weather/Review_4251_index.html https://web.archive.org/web/20010210023051/http://www.softse... https://web.archive.org/web/20070210195451/http://www.locutuscodeware.com/wetsock_ss.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20070210195451/http://www.locutu...
- satvikpendem 1mo agoYou don't need anything more than https://wttr.in/ https://wttr.in/ even with all the fancy terminal graphics.
- cissikatt 1mo agoWhy would I like to know the weather in some other city?
- satvikpendem 1mo agoWhat do you mean? It gets the weather for your city via your IP address, maybe you're on a VPN.
- Narishma 1mo agoYour IP address doesn't automatically correspond to your city, even without a VPN.
- satvikpendem 1mo agoThen add your city as an argument to the curl. It works well enough regardless and doesn't use hundreds of megabytes of RAM which is what the initial complaint was.
- OvermindDL1 1mo agoThat's a pretty crappy way to detect it seems, it thinks I'm in some city almost a thousand miles away, no VPN, purely direct connection,...
- blooalien 1mo agoThey also have a nice API where you can pull the raw weather data and fancy it up any way you like graphically. Great for building your own entirely custom weather widget for your desktop, webpage, app, or whatever. :)
- benj111 1mo agoWell it's comparing it to apple's weather app, which is a fair comparison I suppose. 100mb still sounds like at least an order of magnitude too high to me though.
- rdedev 1mo agoHow much does rainmeter take? I used to load tons of widgets on it in my old laptop. Ahh those were the days
- feverzsj 1mo agoIt's just msn weather page. Can't they use one single browser for all their apps instead of one per app?
- whynotmaybe 1mo agoNo, because you have to manage communication between different teams on "how" and "what" about the single browser, much easier to let every team do their "best" without any external interference
- itopaloglu83 1mo agoAnd it also ads on it. Really Microsoft? Do you really need all the ads revenue from the weather app? What’s next? Ads on the start menu?
- WakeUpPeople 1mo ago> What’s next? Ads on the start menu? They already exist: https://www.howtogeek.com/windows-11-start-menu-ads-how-to-turn-them-off/ https://www.howtogeek.com/windows-11-start-menu-ads-how-to-t...
- _trampeltier 1mo agoDon't they even had it earlyer and even let the DNS expire, so someone else could spam the startmenu?
- Zopieux 1mo agoPatent was being sarcastic. Everybody heard about (or had the displeasure of seeing) those ads.
- mort96 1mo agoMicrosoft absolutely doesn't need it, but I'm guessing the weather app team (or the core filler apps team or whatever team is responsible for it) needs it to juice a metric to make some middle manager happy. And it makes the middle manager happy because it lets that middle manager report better numbers to their superiors again. Etc. It's why all large dysfunctional organisations do self destructive stuff like this.
- SlightlyLeftPad 1mo ago“What value are you bringing to the company?” translates to “if you’re not printing money, you lose your job.”
- mapontosevenths 1mo agoAny manager who doesn't push back when given a perverse incentive should be fired. They are not leaders, they are followers... And not even very good followers.
- hyperhello 1mo agoI would like to be assured that the author knows the difference between actual memory and setting aside paging space.
- benj111 1mo agoThat still isn't a good look.
- hyperhello 1mo agoI’m not sure if you mean a good look for the process or for the author but paging space is just saying “gimme a gigabyte” like saying “gimme a plate” is at a barbecue. The resources themselves aren’t being used at that point.
- debazel 1mo agoOn Windows over allocating virtual memory (commit charge) is still bad. Unlike on Linux, once the total commit charge hits your physical RAM limit + SWAP limit, Windows will start crashing your applications and refuse to allocate more virtual memory, even if that memory has not been touched yet. This is also why it is very important to have plenty of SWAP space on Windows, even if you have 64 GiB+ of memory. Because applications love to over allocate commit charge.
- benj111 1mo agoAs in it's sloppy. If you're at a BBQ would you take 5 plates just because?
- tredre3 1mo agoThe author doesn't need to know the difference because the task manager is accurate by default. I can still offer you some reassurance: - The Windows task manager's memory column is the private working set which is the actual memory used by the application minus shared memory (but only shared memory that is currently shared with other processes, not merely marked shared. I.E. it's similar to RES - SHR on Linux but it's more accurate) - Windows doesn't overcommit memory. Memory that is reserved but unused (not touching all pages) by the app is truly wasted. I mention this because in your other comment you make it clear that you think this is happening. But Windows isn't Linux.
- Wowfunhappy 1mo ago...you know, I keep reading all this stuff about memory prices, and it does suck, but memory is still much cheaper per gigabyte than it was ~15 years ago. Which matters because the things most consumers are doing on their computers haven't changed in the past 15 years. We browse the web, edit photos, message friends, and so on. AI generally runs on remote servers anyway. For years, everyone kept saying it was fine that Electron used gigabytes of memory, because on modern PCs memory was plentiful anyway. Well, it's not plentiful anymore! Maybe it's time software developers actually used resources efficiently? Hey, you even have an LLM to help you now!
- AnotherGoodName 1mo agoBut it's literally not cheaper than it was ~15 years ago? Right now RAM is the same price per GB as it was in 2007 and prices per GB look to continue to rise. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/scientist-says-ram-pricing-has-reverted-to-normalized-2007-levels-memory-prices-have-been-falling-exponentially-for-decades-but-the-ai-shortage-undid-20-years-of-progress-in-a-matter-of-months https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/scientist-say...
- gruez 1mo ago>Right now RAM is the same price per GB as it was in 2007 and prices per GB look to continue to rise. ...when looking at nominal prices (ie. not adjusted for inflation). If you adjust for that the furthest back you can go to get that price is 2011. What's more is that because RAM prices are subject to boom and bust cycles, that price has also been reached in 2015. So just by tweaking two parameters we went from 19 years (2007) to 11 years (2015).
- adrian_b 1mo agoThat is correct, DDR5 today is in real US$ slightly cheaper than DRAM was in 2011, 15 years ago. For more than 15 years in the past, the price in real US$ of DRAM per GB was always higher than today. During 2014, there was a brief price peak when DDR3 (the standard current then) was slightly more expensive than DDR5 is today. Still, the fact that now the price per GB is the same as 15 years ago, is bad enough, and it can still become worse.
- eviks 1mo ago> By comparison, Apple's native Weather app on macOS reportedly uses less than 250 MB of RAM That's also bloated, couldn't they find a better comparison to illustrate the egregious waste?
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- nashashmi 1mo agoIt’s an equivalent app to make a comparison with, one from an OS company. But yeah, I still remember when a weather app would take 10 MB and I was complaining (1999)
- blackhaz 1mo ago10 MB is ridiculously overbloated. 1 MB or something in that vicinity should be more like it.
- david-gpu 1mo agoHow much money are these companies going to make by reducing their weather app to 1MB, or 10MB? How much is it going to cost them to get there? The world doesn't run on personal aesthetics, when nobody is willing to pay for them.
- fragmede 1mo agoThe MacBook Neo has only 8GiB of RAM. This is widely decried as not enough. The RAMpocalypse means that 8 GiB is going to have to be enough or else it'll eat into Apple's margins. The Neos are wildly popular though because people have used it and 8 GiB is fine. So while the singular weather app being smaller itself isn't material, in aggregate, macOS being more efficient is something that lets Apple sell a lower spec product while still justifying a higher price and thus better margins for Apple.
- drtournier 1mo agoPC games were the last reason why I still used windows. Now that Proton works wonders in Linux, I hope I don’t need to ever come back again. Great times with 98, xp and win7 that were snappy, easy to install and with no slop
- hokkos 1mo agoApple Weather app can jump to 1GB on a mac if you click around a little with the wind gust direction particle effect in the map
- w4yai 1mo agoPlease, Microsoft, PLEASE ! You can do BETTER ! Stop acting like an internship for every single feature you add ! Where's the money going ?
- fsflover 1mo agoBut will the earn more money by offering a better weather app?
- BuyMyBitcoins 1mo agoThey can, but they won’t. Microsoft is run by the most cutthroat sycophants you could possibly imagine. That money you mentioned is going to those aforementioned sycophants and shareholders.
- M95D 1mo agoYou should view it as an invitation to write a better app, like that guy that wrote a windows terminal to replace the garbage Microsoft wrote.
- firefoxd 1mo agoThis took me down a rabbit whole. Why can a simple single purpose app not be just a couple megabytes if not less? The popular options are electron 100MB+, or embedding python3 in your executable which is at least 40MB. But if you build it natively, you should have all of Microsoft tools at your disposition, dlls and such. In theory, this should allow you to make a 1 mb app or less. But in practice, it's the worse option.
- trzy 1mo agoThe visual assets alone will be tens of megabytes.
- SV_BubbleTime 1mo agoDo all visual aspects of a weather app need to be loaded at once? Is the cost penalty loading a hundred kilobytes per image from disk really unacceptable?
- doikor 1mo agoEven if the app is no longer using that memory it is not released until Windows thinks another app needs it.
- vel0city 1mo agoAnd then people complain about how unresponsive applications are, all these little stutters as things pop in.
- mrheosuper 1mo agoOur storage can transfer Gigabytes of data, do hundred thousand operations every second. The hardware is more than capable. If your software stutter when streaming few hundred KBs of data, it's on you.
- vel0city 1mo ago
- ndriscoll 1mo agoMy gaming PC that I built in January 2006 that IIRC I used to simultaneously run Battlefield 2, Trillian, Xfire, Thunderbird, and Winamp with a 1680x1050 monitor had 1 GB of total system RAM.
- glouwbug 1mo agoFun fact, one of the XFire cofounders won Carmack's Ferrari at a Quake Tourney: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Fong#/media/File:John_Carmack_&_Dennis_Fong_(Thresh),_May_1997.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Fong#/media/File:John_C...
- functionmouse 1mo agotake me back
- ColdStream 1mo agoHaiku OS is trying.
- dddw 1mo agoTrillian, good old days. Still remember my icq number
- Melatonic 1mo agoThink about all the performance you could have gained by instead running Trillian and Winamp on an old Thinkpad next to you with even less ram
- josephg 1mo agoSome of us still know how to write software like that. And enjoy doing it. I made a little conference schedule app a few weeks ago for a conference I was at. I used my own rust UI toolkit, which calls in to cocoa to make use of native UI components. The resulting binary is about 500kb and it uses a couple megs of ram while running. It looks and feels like a totally native iOS app. As far as the OS is concerned, it is. Even 500kb feels too big for what it is. I’m rewriting the core at the moment, and I think it’ll be more efficient as a result. But I’m still pretty happy with it.
- dietr1ch 1mo agoAt some point you just got to be amazed at it and celebrate.
- i-e-b 1mo agoThe complete works of Shakespeare are about 6MiB. I hate that 100MiB is considered efficient for telling me if it's going to rain later.
- calini 1mo agoThe Weather app in Windows is more ads than weather, so it checks out.
- trashface 1mo agoI'm sure the memory pages compress well /s
- dude250711 1mo agoThanks, React and friends.
- CrimsonCape 1mo agoYesterday I was running : NixOS, mango window manager, 5 instances of ghostty, 2 of those running fresh terminal editor, firefox with 5 tabs and I was at 2.37gb of RAM.
- TacticalCoder 1mo agoAll the comments excusing the RAM usage "because high-resolution screens require pixels" are missing the fact that there's this thing called GPU memory. Which is where pixels data should be. There's no way you need to store fullscreen 4K images for a weather app on anything else than the GPU: use scalable icons, render them on the GPU. No need to use actual RAM: the GPUs have had their own RAM since times immemorial and GPU rendering is a thing too.
- ntstatusquo 1mo agoLots of iGPUs just end up being backed by system memory. But even then, this is a ridiculous hand wavy excuse. A 4000x2000 RGBA buffer is 32MB. That only explains 2.7% of the weather app's devastating memory footprint. They don't want you to remember that Windows XP's minimum system requirements specified 64MB of RAM. This weather app uses 20 times more memory than an entire operating system from 25 years ago.
- rahulmax 1mo ago"Windows users are fundamentally willing to put up with more bullshit than MacOS or Linux users." I read this circa 2010 and it stuck with me ever since. Also, have felt this way over the years, when I see Windows users work.
- SBArbeit 1mo agoSuper interesting; it's been exactly the opposite in my experience. MacOS/iOS users put up with whatever Apple is telling them they should love - Liquid Glass, right? App Store restrictions, right? Lousy AI, right? - whether it's true or not. Linux users are willing to put up with any amount of work - i.e. bullshit - to make their installations work just to get a UX that's almost as good as Windows from 20 years ago. As for Windows, I like living in cities. If you live in a city long enough - at least through a couple of major macroeconomic cycles - you'll see it improve in some ways and some neighborhoods, get worse in some ways and some neighborhoods, then improve again, etc. Cycles. Windows found itself in a downturn the last few years, primarily due to the org structure that took Windows shell away from people who could really look after it, and, yes some of those execs have earned my permanent scorn, like a bad local politician would. Now there's a focused team making that neighborhood better. I'm here for the whole ride. I'll use Linux on computers I don't have to log into very much, so I don't have that UX problem (case-sensitive command lines? Seriously? The 1970's called...). I'll never move to MacOS City; it's like wanting to live in The Villages. Manicured lawns with no soul. So I live in Windows Town, it's not perfect, no city is, but it's always changing, always moving, going through ups and downs, and now it has a new "city council" that's making changes for the better. And I'm expert enough to make it great for me, and avoid the "neighborhoods" that suck. This article highlights a problem that Windows has right now, and one which I agree with, which is shipping web apps instead of native. For now, I have a workaround for it: 1. Install uBlock Origin in Edge. 2. Start Edge, browse to MSN Weather. 3. Click the "Add an Application" button in the address bar so I have a Start Menu icon for the page. 4. Delete the in-box Weather app icon. Now I have the same weather site, no ads, running in about 130MB of RAM. Enjoy your choice of operating system. Live where you want. Sometimes your city has problems. Move if you want, but don't think you've permanently solved your UX issues if you do, you've just swapped them for different ones.
- undebuggable 1mo agoAn app which could have been a website.
- perching_aix 1mo agoIs it not? > Instead, it is essentially an MSN Weather web app built on Microsoft's WebView2 framework. Task Manager shows multiple Chromium-based subprocesses running simultaneously, which contributes to the unusually high RAM usage.
- superjan 1mo agoI don’t know if this is sarcastic. A lot of bloat in GUI apps is because they are built as websites with a bloated front end, dependencies, custom fonts plus the binary compiled code and the decompressed images cached by the browser.
- Scharkenberg 1mo agoIt is literally the MSN Weather website packaged as a WebView2 app.
- pixel_popping 1mo agoAnything above 50MB RAM for this is shameful imo and reflect poor engineering.
- alkonaut 1mo agoI wonder if this is a fair calculation including the fact that multiple WebView apps should be sharing the same libraries in memory. If you pay 0.5-1GB to load the edge/chromium libraries but that memory is amortized over N different apps the user is likely to run, then the ”1GB for the weather app” is an unlikely worst case.
- cogman10 1mo agoAs time goes on, I become more and more convinced that OSes need some sort of OS level GC pool which all GCed languages play in rather than having the language runtime provide the GC. A major part of why these sort of simple applications are taking gbs of memory is because the GC wants to simply grow as much as it can to avoid pauses/jank. There might be 10% of the memory which is actually live in that 1gb. But because it allocates fast enough, the extra headroom is needed. Even if it isn't the case that the GC is universal, having a shared GC amongst runtimes would be a boon in general. If I have 3 JVMs running, I might give them all 1gb of memory even though really each of them only needs 200mb to get their job done. The extra headroom is for when a burst happens. If I could combine all 3 into 1, I could save a lot of allocation overhead and general memory. This does sort of exist in java (war deployments), but there are limitations that make it unappealing. For example, each of the JVMs have to be the same version.
- pjmlp 1mo agoWhich is what OSes implemented in system languages with automatic memory management usually do, it is an OS service. Oberon example, https://people.inf.ethz.ch/wirth/ProjectOberon/Sources/Kernel.Mod.txt https://people.inf.ethz.ch/wirth/ProjectOberon/Sources/Kerne... Active Oberon example, https://github.com/btreut/a2/blob/master/source/GarbageCollector.Mod https://github.com/btreut/a2/blob/master/source/GarbageColle... Bare metal Java, Go, .NET, Erlang, OCaml,... with bare metal deployments naturally have the runtime take the OS role.
- xkriva11 1mo agoSmalltalk: https://github.com/pavel-krivanek/BarePharo https://github.com/pavel-krivanek/BarePharo
- mwkaufma 1mo agoThe ram usage in this case is an order of magnitude lower if you install ublock in edge, as other comments have noted. Why would a system level GC affect wasteful adtech? Any marginal efficiency gains will be wiped out with more adslop. Nathan's law.
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- SBArbeit 1mo agoEasy workaround for this: 1. Install uBlock Origin in Edge. 2. Start Edge, browse to MSN Weather. 3. Click the "Add an Application" button in the address bar to get a Start Menu icon for the page. 4. Delete the in-box Weather app icon. Now you get the same Weather app in about 130MB of RAM, with no ads. It's not as nice as a native app, of course, but it's 1000% better than the useless ads and MSN feed that you can't block from the built-in Weather icon. (Also, go into Widget settings and turn off "Discover / Microsoft Start feed". Same crap, different surface. Get rid of it.)
- aniceperson 1mo ago1. install ublock origin on Firefox. not even being annoying, edge is removing manifest v2 very soon, breaking proper ad blocks just like chrome
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- Catloafdev 1mo agoThis is a narrative that MS, Google etc want you to believe. They gutted it for ads. That's what's happening. There are workarounds now, that's what the existing ad block options are. They are heavily kneecapped.
- rstat1 1mo ago[flagged]
- Catloafdev 1mo agoNo, but you failed to comprehend the section of my comment where I mentioned "workarounds [...] are what the existing ad blockers now use"
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- cherryteastain 1mo agoFor comparison, the GNOME Weather app takes 80MB.
- trinix912 1mo agoWhich, in a way, is still a lot. I personally wouldn’t expect a weather app, no matter how fancy, to use more than 50MB, and that should be more than enough. One can get pretty far with just native UI controls, even eye candy wise.
- cromka 1mo agoI seriously wonder if the recent migrations between languages mande by major projects leveraging SOTA LLMs have started a new trend of a) making native apps more common, as opposed to Electron and stuff b) will help to optimize existing apps and remove the bloat. The alternative is, of course, that most apps will end up being bloated even more specifically because of how we'll slowly transition into developing using LLMs only.
- kmfrk 1mo agoShame, because it's genuinely a great map - ahem, optimizations aside. I remember giving the app a second chance - after assuming it to be bloatware next to all the other default apps that came with Windows - but after seeing it redeem itself in benchmarks[1], I gave it a shot and quite like it. The iOS app was too rubbish to bother with, though. I'm curious what could options there are for decent predictions. Especially with Dark Sky never having been much of an option for Europe. I see some of the people behind it have a new subscription-based iOS app to try, though: https://acmeweather.com/app https://acmeweather.com/app. Do people have any desktop weather apps that strike a nice balance between decent code and actually useful predictions? Future weather's likely to be anything but boring, unfortunately. [1]: https://forecastwatch.com/awards/2026/ https://forecastwatch.com/awards/2026/
- SSLy 1mo agoMy country's agency for weather and water mgmt has consistently the best 48h forecast. Try looking for an equivalent in yours.
- baist0 1mo agoThis is what traditions mean!
- strong-self 1mo agoi used WKWebView highlightr wrapper around highlight.js for syntax highlighting on iOS, and the webview was the biggest memory line in the app
- mmis1000 1mo agoi mean webKit never handle viewport well when compare to firefox or chrome. it's willing to materialize a 10000*10000 texture when firefox and chrome will think that is too dumb and only load the visible part. It's not a good target if you want to compare windows and mac software quality.
- senfiaj 1mo agoReminds me this https://waspdev.com/static/images/2025-11-04/bloat.webp https://waspdev.com/static/images/2025-11-04/bloat.webp
- Dwedit 1mo agoThis is what happens when you start a separate instance of Chromium everywhere.
- userbinator 1mo agoAfter seeing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49226923 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49226923 show up here, I'm now hoping someone will vibe-code a nearly identical-looking native app that takes a few orders of magnitude less RAM. Personally I just use my government's website when I need to check the forecast.
- Hackbraten 1mo agoI’ve used Wego [0] for roughly a decade. It’s been good enough for me. Six years in, I had to edit the configuration file once (to switch weather backends because the default backend shut down). In January, it’ll be 10 years. [0]: https://github.com/schachmat/wego https://github.com/schachmat/wego
- 3dedb728-3f77 1mo agoWhat if we make all these apps obsolete with < 1mb options. 100 tools < 100mb.
- leduyquang753 1mo agoThat only nerds will use because the UI is only ASCII art on a black terminal screen?
- trinix912 1mo agoHave you never used fully native software? All UI code is in the system DLLs that are already loaded with the OS so you can have a nice GUI program with no fuss and no extra memory requirements besides the little code your app requires. See Nirsoft utilities for an example.
- reddalo 1mo agoI miss lightweight tools so much. Even on Linux, opening some apps feels slow and sluggish, maybe because of Snap or Flatpak containerization, I don't know.
- 72deluxe 1mo agoIt is a breath of fresh air to run older applications like pcmanfm or xfe or xfwrite in comparison to flatpak and snap applications. flatpak's on-the-fly decompression of a file tree to run the app doesn't help its performance.
- GuB-42 1mo agoPutting aside the fact that it is horribly bloated. Accurately measuring RAM usage is tricky, there are several measurements, and no "right" one. It is clear from the article that what eats up so much RAM is not the weather app itself but the framework it runs on. There is a "Renderer", a "GPU Process",... eating most of it. The thing that the task manager doesn't tell you is whether or not these are shared components. It may be that the 662 MB used by the "Renderer" is shared between many Windows components, so killing that Weather app may not reclaim as much space as you may hope, instead, it would require killing every user of the component, some may be core system apps. In addition to the distinction between private and shared memory, there is also the distinction between actual RAM usage and and virtual memory. It is possible for a process to memory map a 100 GB file. If you look at the address space, it will take 100 GB more of virtual memory, even though it may be actually zero physical RAM, but it is not always zero either, the parts of the file that are currently accessed take up some space, which may later be reclaimed by the OS by committing the page to disk. Even the most obvious "I do a big malloc()" kind of memory use is not that obvious, the OS can overcommit, put stuff into swap, use memory compression, etc... And it can do that even if the system is not overloaded, as to make more space for the disk cache for instance. So seeing "1 GB" in the task manager is just a vague hint of how it may affect performance. And not all "task manager" tools give the same value for the same program (so Windows vs Mac may be misleading). "Process Explorer", a more advanced version of the Windows task manager can give a lot more details, with different values of memory usage depending on what you are looking at.
- waynesonfire 1mo ago> the 662 MB used by the "Renderer" is shared between many Windows components Fine, shutdown the weather and stock ticker apps.
- calmingsolitude 1mo ago> It may be that the 662 MB used by the "Renderer" is shared between many Windows components From the screenshot in the article, this is the memory usage of the Renderer process spawned by the Weather App. I find it very unlikely that some other app (say, the Copilot app) can then piggyback on Weather Renderer process. Do you have a source for this? > killing that Weather app may not reclaim as much space Closing the weather app on my PC does in fact kill all child processes and frees up around 1GB of committed RAM. Are you not seeing the same?
- pharos92 1mo agoI likely unfairly judge (at a high-level) code security based on how much system resources applications waste. If your app, or OS uses that much resource to perform simple operations then you clearly lack understanding of what the code is doing. How then can I expect it to be secure?
- mlvljr 1mo ago[dead]
- matteoraso 1mo agoRAM consumption has gotten crazy over the past couple of years. Consumers need to start calling software devs out for this, especially when there's such a severe shortage of RAM.
- mickelsen 1mo agoThey could ask AI to refactor and debloat, since they can't be bothered with it because the incentives don't seem to align. Last decade has been the worst, not even worth it for the eye candy like before.
- eisbaw 1mo agoWhy does everything turn into a browser
- M95D 1mo agoWhy does everything turn into an app that includes a browser to display a web page?
- oblio 1mo agoBecause Jamie Zawinski was right and also wrong. Everything evolves into a browser, which, yes, can also read email.
- 72deluxe 1mo agoMainly due to extremely lazy developers and/or a generation of developers who only learned very very high level web languages and don't understand anything deeper and so are completely detached from actual memory allocations or resource usage. Since this is coming from Microsoft (which isn't new - the Vista clock widget would interrupt all the time, very inefficient), it just highlights how far from the tree the modern apples have fallen.
- UltraSane 1mo agoI have 64GB of DDR5 Ram and a 64GB pagefile on a pcie 5 SSD and window 11 still runs like crap.
- polyterative 1mo agoI am using AI to rewrite every proprietary driver/companion soft I had still running on my Mac system.I am using 5/10% of the original application's RAM.I am getting more features.My background RAM usage halved after converting many of them to my own versions.
- hadrien01 1mo agoWhat's worse is that the previous version of the same Weather app was fully native on Windows 10. Why would you take a perfectly working app and downgrade it like this?
- retired_account 1mo agoWell, this is Microsoft and Windows; it would be weird if it got better.
- ColdStream 1mo agoIn a parallel universe Microsoft would have never killed Windows phone and they would have been forced to keep these apps a little more memory/performance friendly.
- onurtag 1mo agoThey probably needed an electron web app that could run the (likely ~8MB+) javascript bundle loaded by their ad provider. Sad reality aside; when the new app released I was using an old AppxBundle of the last good version downloaded from a microsoft store archive website. Later I fully uninstalled the app as it got annoying to cancel the autoupdate for that specific app. I use a random website now.
- ntstatusquo 1mo agoI hesitate to make this sound positive, but to their credit, the leadership at Microsoft who likely steered the weather app towards using the web stack at least correctly identified a major problem: there is not a single good native UI framework for Windows today. Jeffrey Snover, creator of powershell, explained it decently well here: https://www.jsnover.com/blog/2026/03/13/microsoft-hasnt-had-a-coherent-gui-strategy-since-petzold/ https://www.jsnover.com/blog/2026/03/13/microsoft-hasnt-had-... Was switching to webviews the right solution to that problem? Absolutely not. But at least we can admit they were in a difficult position. At the time this bloated weather app was probably developed, the choice that most of the rest of the shell and in-box apps were making was C++/WinRT paired with System XAML (i.e. Windows::UI::Xaml aka WinUI 2 aka UWP XAML) via the still-marked-as-experimental-in-2026 islands API (DesktopWindowXamlSource) like the taskbar/control center/file explorer/etc. Or worse, actual UWP, such as the Start Menu, Settings app, or Notification Center. This can have a decent-ish memory footprint - Control Center, for example, uses about 150MB of commit and 30MB of working set. Still not good, but not atrocious either. But even for this mediocre level of performance and efficiency, you end up paying a very high cost in terms of development time and expertise required. This stack "just works" like 70% of the time, but the other 30%, you're scratching your head figuring out where you forgot to hold a strong reference across a co_await boundary. Or figuring out why a XAML ListView corrupted its recycling pool in korea because window messages reentered a nested message loop started by XAML's outbound RPC call that's only made in the TextBlock code for east asian languages. You get a razor thin veneer of user-friendliness, i.e. MVVM, x:bind, co_await ("hey, this is just like C# + WPF!") on top of a 60% finished UI framework and a terrible programming language feature which is quite possibly one of the leakiest abstractions in the history of the world (C++ coroutines). The fact that Raymond Chen managed to write a blog series on C++ coroutines in Windows that is 60 posts long is damning: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20210504-01/?p=105178 https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20210504-01/?p=10... On top of all this, Microsoft's status in the industry has dropped. And they have absolutely no structured technical training program for new employees. I guess just pray you get paired with a decent mentor. So, young employees fresh out of undergrad who are asked to work in these codebases are super unproductive and make mistakes on a regular basis that cause inscrutable memory corruption bugs. For a time, leadership was wildly flailing around trying to find some alternative to this madness. At the time when this bloated weather app was developed, the hot idea was that we should be switching to the web stack for native experiences. There was some low effort hand waving about how WebView2 would be continuously improved, we would mitigate the memory footprint by sharing webviews, etc. My position is that there's no reasonable choice for building efficient native UX on windows today except by targeting a lower level graphics API like DirectX, Vulkan, OpenGL, or even software rendering in GDI, rather than a GUI framework. Most serious software on windows ends up going down the route of literally building their own UI framework, i.e. web browsers, office, adobe suite. If you don't mind the dated look/functionality of win32's stock common controls, that's also a decent option. I've heard that Qt is okay, but haven't tried it. One final note: if anyone is earnestly wondering whether WinUI 3 is perhaps, finally, an end to all the bloodshed, my take is: no It is (currently) UWP XAML wearing a trenchcoat, plus a needless namespace change that broke compat, plus the baffling choice to run a copy of the compositor in-process in order to - wait for it - be able to ship WinUI 3 apps downlevel to Windows 7 and have acrylic work correctly!!! (to their credit, they have signaled that they are reversing this decision and moving back to the system compositor). WinUI 3 has the potential to be good, but appears to be too underfunded to achieve its potential. org_chart_with_guns.jpg
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- Zopieux 1mo agoWhat's the status on automatic debloating (non interactive) scripts for Windows these days? With vibe coding I'd expect hundreds of those to exist by now. Something everyone would run after a clean install, to revert, disable or uninstall all the stupid defaults and enshitifications Microsoft added in the past decades. Anyone can recommend one of those?
- smileybarry 1mo agoI don't want to "akshually" this, but on a stock[1] up-to-date Windows 11 x64 25H2 (aka: my desktop) Weather takes up around ~670MB of RAM at launch, not 1GB. While writing this comment it dropped to 450MB. All in all much lower than 1GB. 1: i.e.: not "debloated" or running a bunch of random customizer scripts.
- gruturo 1mo agoThat doesn't take away at all from the complete absurdity of this level of bloat. How is it not 450kB? Fine, a few high res icons and multi language support, let's make it 4MB, because to do it in 1 would take skilled coders.
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- smileybarry 1mo ago> That doesn't take away at all from the complete absurdity of this level of bloat. When the article compares that figure directly to macOS Weather.app's 250MB usage, yes it does. It brings the sensationalist comparison down from "5x" to 2x. Then you can question why both platforms take 250-450MB of RAM for a weather app, instead of just repeating the "windows so bloated" circle again and again.
- gruturo 1mo agoAbsolutely valid point! I am equally horrified by the Mac app being also this level of bloated. Apple does not get a free pass for this shit, especially as they market an 8GB laptop in 2026 insisting this is enough - least they could do is release a GB or 2 by paring down the most wasteful apps.
- weedfroglozenge 1mo agoI can tell you're not on a 4k monitor then.
- gruturo 1mo agoIn the era of coding with frontier LLMs, it should take Microsoft 20 junior engineers, a couple seniors, a token budget and a month or two to fix most of this shit by building lean, native apps. Given that they can obviously spare this kind of resourcing, I truly wonder why they won't. Not that I give a crap - removed the last windows machine from my home ages ago at this point.
- 72deluxe 1mo agoYes it's odd that given the obsession with LLMs and how much native code they've been trained on, why on earth they can't actually ever seem to write a good native app using their own frameworks is baffling. Having said that, the code for Windows Calculator is truly astonishingly over-engineered. I don't understand who "designs" stuff like that in C++. It's insanely engineered, so perhaps they have truly lost their ability to do anything well?
- bullen 1mo agoWhy does Windows 10 use 10GB of RAM if you have a total of 32GB? And how come you cannot pretend to only have 4GB to make it use less? I don't care about how slow the OS becomes, I care about software not crashing.
- Retr0id 1mo agoMost of the RAM being "used" is available to be reallocated to something more important, should the need arise.
- bullen 1mo agoNo, because my apps crash = they are not able to allocate memory. Windows uses 10GB, Chromium uses 10GB and leaks ~1GB per week... then I launch a game and that game crashes if I have left chromium open too long. The odd thing things crash way before the total 32GB are used. Available memory is still 2-4GB. Probably it can't find a contigous space?
- dxxvi 1mo agoIs Chris Titus's tool able to remove the built-in Weather app (I haven't had a Windows machine with admin right for too long to remember that)? If yes, do we see 1 more GB of RAM free after running that tool?
- bztzt 1mo agoYou don't need a tool, you can just right-click and uninstall.
- ed_mercer 1mo agoThey're pointing to macOS and saying it uses 5 times less RAM there, but is 230MB for a weather app really something to be proud off?
- ColdStream 1mo agoHere is an example of one built using Real Basic on Mac Os system 7+. Probably uses less than 1MB. https://tinkerdifferent.com/threads/snazzy-weather-a-snazzier-weather-app-for-classic-mac-os.5002/ https://tinkerdifferent.com/threads/snazzy-weather-a-snazzie...
- kalleboo 1mo agoAnd what's funny was at the time, REALBasic apps were seen as "bloated"
- Invictus0 1mo agoYes, and this app looks like shit
- AlexeyBelov 1mo ago1. This is subjective 2. It's unclear that "better UI" (by how much) is worth 100x memory usage
- im3w1l 1mo agoThe thing with ram is that once you can fit everything you want into the space you have available there is little benefit in optimizing further or getting more space. 1gig -> 230MB may be a large enough reduction that it goes from "too big" to "small enough".
- zapzupnz 1mo ago2025 and 2026 have proven that to be vastly untrue. It was never true. If it was anything, it was rampant laziness.
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- Razengan 1mo agoIn the 10+ years since I stopped using Windows, every time I hear news about Microsoft I never see a reason to not be glad of leaving :)
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- roflburger 1mo agoElectron apps use lots of ram, news at 11.
- mrheosuper 1mo agoAs embedded guy, sometime i wonder what those web devs are doing. A simple app that consumes multiple magnitude more RAM than the entire system i usually working with(~1MB). I assume it just does some HTTP query and render it on the screen, why the heck 1GB of RAM ?
- WarmWash 1mo agoJust the absolute laziest implementation
- asdfman123 1mo agoThere's a bunch of other requirements you need to meet and no one cares about RAM consumption. So you do it the most time efficient way, not the most memory efficient. Before you scorn, doing it the opposite way, taking more to use less memory, makes you less promotable, not more.
- brokenmachine 1mo agoAnd this is why Windows will have it's lunch eaten by Linux.
- Alifatisk 1mo agoI’ve read this sentence for more than a decade now.
- asdfman123 1mo agoHonestly it just reveals a poor theory of mind regarding the average consumer.
- asdfman123 1mo agoWhy exactly? Because all the people who really care about good software will switch over? All 1% of the market? Most people don't care about most things. I don't think much about the vast majority of products I use, because there's only so many things I can track closely. Same goes for everything else. Most people won't look and won't care.
- mrloopex 1mo agoAttention Hacker News: you are literally the people writing this code and these frameworks. Get your shit together and be the change you want to see. Or stop whining.
- jaimex2 1mo agoMicroslop strikes again
- rgmerk 1mo agoIt will be interesting to see whether OS and application developers start to face commercial pressure to debloat their applications. For operating systems and their bundled applications, Apple's integration is an advantage here; the OS designers work for the hardware company and have aligned incentives. That doesn't mean they necessarily align with their customers, just that they are internally aligned. Microsoft...do they even care about the snappiness of Windows desktops any more?
- chrisjj 1mo agoRise in RAM price may have a silver lining.
- sasaf5 1mo agoWindows 11 is what made me switch back to dual booting, after 4 years being content with WSL. Everything is slow, everything's GUIs have two versions and it nags endlessly for a "Windows Account".
- ModernMech 1mo agoThe memory isn't even the worst part, on my laptop it takes up to 30% of the 8 core 4 GHZ CPU. Anytime I'm browsing and my fans start blowing like a lawnmower, it's because I forgot to close my weather app and it's just blasting away at the processor. Doing what, I don't know... probably spyware in one of the insurance ads on the side?
- sciencesama 1mo agohow to disable it ?
- martheen 1mo agoSearch for it in the Start menu, right click uninstall. You can do the same with most other preloaded apps, or use whatever powershell incantation to do it in batch.
- d5lt5 1mo agoIn Windows group there used to be a review where you had to tell the board why the module you try to merge into main branch moved the baseline up by 100KiB.
- botanical 1mo agoAnytime I go on the website, my fan start going crazy. But it is a good website with the most accurate forecasts, I feel. Another annoyance is that tree planting initiative, I was able to plant like 10 trees, now they made it very difficult to be able to do 1 in a year. Microsoft, you cheapskates, you're destroying the environment, the least y’all could do is plant more trees in vulnerable areas.
- remarkEon 1mo agoI still run Windows 10 on my PC, and one night I spend about 3 hours with ChatGPT turning off all of the bullshit telemetry and other nonsense that Windows runs in the background. Total was about 2.5 GB of RAM, roughly. Why is Windows like this? One would think the at the company whose value proposition is, allegedly, "optimize your productivity" would not do things like this with their operating system. When this PC dies, and I figure I've got a long while left given my penchant for refusing to spend money on computer hardware, I will not be booting a Windows system again. What a mess.
- chrisjj 1mo ago> One would think the at the company whose value proposition is, allegedly, "optimize your productivity" would not do things like this The company's "optimise our productivity" trumps.
- welwala 1mo agoI'm not surprised. Everything Microsoft makes is web tech now. And this isn't really new either, they've been pushing for everything web tech since the 90s no less. Remember Active Desktop?
- bjoli 1mo agoRemember the days when we complained about Java being a resource hog? Now I am glad to get a Java or dotnet app.
- nottorp 1mo agoIs that before memory leaks or after? Also, I don't think Apple should be commended for using "only" 250 Mb of ram for that.
- Hobadee 1mo ago> A new report shows Windows 11's built-in Weather app can consume more than 1 GB of RAM. By comparison, Apple's native Weather app on macOS uses roughly five times less memory under similar conditions. Can we also be talking about how the Mac version uses 200MB apparently!? Why is a weather app using any more than like 10-20MB or so of RAM!? Load a couple icons into memory, maybe some background image or pattern, and a tiny bit of text. Why does it need to be so big!? (I'll cut it some slack while it's syncing/downloading, but for a weather app that should be like 30s once an hour max)
- vor_ 1mo agoFor one thing, Apple Weather displays hi-DPI animations for weather conditions.
- rightbyte 1mo agoYeah. Should be possible to do those proceduraly to save ram and some clever animation design to not use too much CPU. Anyways it is a bad trade off for the users to make and most don't even know they areaking it.
- BrenBarn 1mo agoIt's because people became addicted to building apps using HTML and JS instead of writing actual programs that run on the actual OS and display their UI using native OS widgets.
- isgb 1mo agoThat’s pretty amazing, credit to Microsoft. Modern-day weather models are pretty complex and running these kinds of simulations can be pretty demanding.
- amtamt 1mo agoWas /s missed or this is AI generated counterpoint?
- rcxdude 1mo agoEvery comment without an /s at the end is definitely 100% serious and unironic.
- amtamt 1mo agoAh... now I know that Microsoft is running full weather simulations on each user desktop... pretty neat.
- mxmilkiib 1mo agoyou sound sarcastic
- KaiMagnus 1mo agoNo /s so I wouldn't know.
- mxmilkiib 1mo agoit's not as dead-pan with an /s imhho, I prefer the ambiguity, the increased hilarity, the increased mental work of considering whether a statement is in good faith or being sarcastic/sardonic, the opportunity to understand how people can be hurt and the motives of barbs and lashes and how to discern the distress and deeper needs of "violent" people, and eventually the remembered insights on how to better generate boundaries and equanimity in the way of Buddhist psychology, phenomenological bracketing, non-violent/compassionate communication, Brechtian principles, deconstruction, clowning, DBT, etc lol though I know this doesn't scale to situations without a boundary, where you can get abuse just for existing. I would use /s in a commons that expects a higher standard of good faith/well-being interactions (does thoroughly confusing or disrespecting people for a jape equate to an abuse? how much of memeing is not just legal but moral? these are rhetorical questions, you are allowed to save your mental labour on this for yourself, self-care is prime, though I hope you all have a appropriate levels of support) Stuart Lee is my favourite comedian, they are masterful in playing with this https://youtu.be/5S9QJXa5YP8 https://youtu.be/5S9QJXa5YP8 - Stewart Lee deals with audience latecomers (Basic Lee) https://youtu.be/EclpMn-mK5E https://youtu.be/EclpMn-mK5E - Stewart Lee HITS OUT At Audience Behaviour (Basic Lee) https://youtu.be/NtFJ1HT3gto https://youtu.be/NtFJ1HT3gto - Stewart Lee on Stewart Lee fans (Basic Lee) https://youtu.be/TrkPNwSRxtM https://youtu.be/TrkPNwSRxtM - Stewart Lee on his Audience (Content Provider) shout out to the somewhat similar subtitles use of: (!) p.s. as an alternative to Windows, I always recommend folk use KDE, and a distro based on Arch btw
- dominicrose 1mo agoI only see RAM usage drop by .7 by closing the app so it seems to be using about 700 Mo total. TBH I'm more worried about things I leave open and I think users simply need to be aware that leaving things open consumes lots of RAM, unless it's an unloaded tab or something well optimized.
- davidgerard 1mo agoreblog of https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/09/windows-11s-weather-app-uses-5x-the-ram-of-macos-weather-and-it-still-shows-ads/ https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/09/windows-11s-weather... which should be the link
- CodeCompost 1mo agoThanks for the PSA. Uninstalled.
- jordand 1mo agoJust opened it and what's even worse are the 'get rich quick' ads, distracting video ads, and of course LLM-gen ads. Uninstalled.
- chrisjj 1mo agoArticle title's wastes is not supported by the content which says only consumes.
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- rk06 1mo agothe main problem with windows is that its applications are integrated in windows and can not be disabled and replaced by better software trivially. nor is there anyone incentivised to improve customer experience for windows. it baffles me how bad windows search is. there are multiple tools out there which do a far better job. same for file explorer.
- rightbyte 1mo agoI think the main selling point of Windows Search is spying and manipulation. Turning off websearch just leaves a carcass.
- Y-bar 1mo agoThis reminds me of the JetBrains Toolbox App, which is a tray/system utility used to keep IDE:s up-to-date and provide a good location to launch them from. Not much more than that. https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox-app/ https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox-app/ It is currently using 680 MiB RAM on Mac OS 26.6, this is more than Microsoft Teams is using on my system. How do a group of what should be a competent programmers with access to good tools even manage to bloat this up so much?
- jgalt212 1mo agoThe thoughtful vibe coders don't have a good answer for this because vibe coding makes it too easy to take the get 'er done approach. The AI hypesters and hucksters don't care as long as number go up. Cyclically I believe the primary driving force behind agentic solutions is to send token use hyperbolic.
- 1970-01-01 1mo agoI used to get weather info via telnet, the report was measured in bytes. Either we are getting 10^9 more weather data or this is a record amount of bloat.
- virtualritz 1mo agothe article opens with the fact that macOS uses 5 times less. The irony seems lost on the author. I wouldn't find this post less ridicule-inciting than if the title was "macOS's built-in weather app wastes more that 200 MB of RAM"
- testerius 1mo agoSo start creating quality, convenient and easy to use tools for native development and then create that quality software. You can use free/paid LLMs/agents/AI or don't use any AI. If something feels wrong then change it via next agent iteration on manually by hand. People complain but do opposite things or nothing at all :(
- kingkandu 1mo agoI grew up a total Microsoft fanboy but Windows today is sadly nothing but a bloated piece of spyware. It's like they rebuilt Clippy, called it Copilot, and somehow managed to make it shittier. I run a machine that costs ~$40k so I don't expect this to happen overnight but at this point it's absolutely inevitable that Linux overtakes it in the consumer market. Every little thing that made Linux inaccessible to a normal non techie is now solved by speaking to some model and having it configure/fix the thing.
- djinn_and_tonic 1mo agostrongly recommend FluentWeather open source, no ads, seems like the perfect replacement https://github.com/Gabboxl/FluentWeather https://github.com/Gabboxl/FluentWeather
- daemin 1mo agoI checked this on my computers: On Windows 10 the Weather application uses 2-4MB when not active, which climbs to around 490-550MB when active. On Windows 11 the Weather application doesn't appear to be running at all when not active and it climbs to about 540MB when active. No where near the results presented in the article, however: The amount of memory used could vary by region and provider used to get the weather data, so in my region it would only use half a gig, in the USA it could use a lot more. Half a gig is still too much for a Weather application to use, even with all the images and animations that it has I would estimate it only needs to be half as big at most. I'm puzzled by why Microsoft made this into a Web based application since they could have written something much more efficient with native code, it's not as if they needed to target multiple different operating systems, just Windows and now just a single version of it.
- ranger_danger 1mo ago> I'm puzzled by why Microsoft made this into a Web based application The number and availability of native UI programmers compared to web devs is a rounding error.
- daemin 1mo agoIf any place should be mostly filled with native application developers it should be Microsoft. No test engineers any more but there should be plenty of native application developers.
- ranger_danger 1mo agoThat would be nice, but I think the fact that they can pay web devs much less than native guys is probably a big factor in addition to the number of available applicants.
- dzonga 1mo agotechnically web apps should be light as air. but complexity merchants make them weight as much as the sun.
- vivzkestrel 1mo ago- r/fuckmicrosoft material right there
- breakyerself 1mo agoEven 250mb seems like a lot for this.
- user00005 1mo agoThis is the type of discussion I come to HN for. Some kind of weather app challenge would be fun. Vote for the best balance of features vs efficiency.
- antibarbarus 1mo agoMeanwhile I’m running Waydroid with Android 13 – _an entire operating system, with apps, running services, etc_ – on my laptop, in roughly that same memory footprint. Where did it all go wrong? To think I really liked Windows 10 when it first came out, and thought it was a solid direction forward into modernising Windows.
- arendtio 1mo agoI think we have to translate '1GB' here. It sounds like so little since it is just one GB, when in fact it is 8,000,000,000 bits. When was the last time you counted to eight billion and thought it would be a good idea to build an app that would require that many bits of information to tell someone the weather forecast for the next week? And this comparison is somewhat unfair since all numbers from 0 to 8 billion can be represented with just 33 bits...