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Browsers are becoming more bloated
(waspdev.com)
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2d ago
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5d ago
Well, chess is a sport where humans are supposed to compete. But math, programming, science are mostly not, and AI might affect economy, careers, etc.
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7d ago
Yeah, but it will be a Pyrrhic victory for desktop Linux if it conquers the desktop. You can't even use it normally without Google account.
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8d ago
Yes, this is what I'm saying. It's unlikely to be a replacement for the majority of average users but can be popular among people like us.
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9d ago
But I agree, it's impressive. My blog uses a lot of modern CSS features (such as nested selectors), and this latest version rendered almost perfectly. Much better than Servo. Still, this small gap is often the difference between a norm
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9d ago
The browser might reach 95-97% compatibility eventually. But the last 3-5% gaps are the most stubborn. Many of these 3-5% are not trivial API calls. They might be some subtle legacy quirks, timing/rendering things, etc. There is a lot
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9d ago
The web standards are enormously complex compared to that time. Not sure if today's tooling can compensate this.
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9d ago
I am watching this project with interest. It's impressive that they're doing such titanic work. However, I'm highly skeptical that they can create a real rival to established browsers. I'm sorry for telling this, but Web
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9d ago
Yeah, and also not every idiomatic C/C++ code is portable. Hardcoded structure sizes, assumptions about the byte order in integers or assumptions about alignments in certain data structures might cause headaches with porting the code t
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14d ago
https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.t...
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14d ago
Me too. The 4K basic was quite limited in other functionalities (in order to fit into the memory). But that floating point module made it very competitive, although also made the execution slower. IMO Monte Davidoff is underappreciated.
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14d ago
I wonder were most of the comments added later? I guess they used pen and paper to write the ASM code and then enter it as machine code.
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14d ago
And the PDF is about 100MB.
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15d ago
The html lists in the articles were not ok, the top bar search input as well. Chrome and FF were rendering fine.
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15d ago
How old is Servo? 14? I just opened waspdev.com and the UI was quite broken. It can't even render a basic blog normally.
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15d ago
Yeah, and when you think about the insane complexity of Web standards, and the fact that even Microsoft failed to create a browser with an independent engine, we are very unlikely to see a new browser engine: https://waspdev.com&
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16d ago
Yeah, consider the insane complexity of Web standards, and the fact that even Microsoft failed to create a browser with an independent engine: https://waspdev.com/articles/2025-04-07/will-there-be-a-new-... . This
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16d ago
If I remember correctly, ~10 years ago one of Waterfox's main points was 64-bit + Intel compiler with aggressive optimization flags. At that time Firefox was 32-bit only on Windows, at least the stable version. From my experience, it
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18d ago
>> The title says hunter gatherers. Right, and also adds "with space age tools".
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18d ago
Excellent article, largely agree. Another related issue is that we are not evolved for the modern stress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo1A45ShcMo
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22d ago
You can use hints, after that I could find the right sequence trash smash abash gnash quash clash
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24d ago
I wan't easier ways to work with nested structures, like relationships. All this flat table structure is a pain.
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1mo ago
This means some AI proofs might be impossible to comprehend by humans, right? I guess AI still lacks human intuition for many concepts, but AI might beat humans in narrow areas, such as discrete math and combinatorics.
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1mo ago
Reminds me this https://waspdev.com/static/images/2025-11-04/bloat.webp
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1mo ago
I'd say I don't like images that feel too AIsh and have errors/quirks. Still, some AI images are decent, depends on the person and his taste.
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2mo ago
Yes, but how does it decide if an element is button? Some are links (<a> tags).
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2mo ago
What about TOR or VPNs + faking user agents?
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2mo ago
Ah, sorry, yes, tried with a very different message. But it can still read when telling that the text is formed by movement. AI doesn't see the world the way we do, so it's understandable. https://chatgpt.com/share
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2mo ago
I downloaded the message video, renamed it to test.mp4 Still could read https://chatgpt.com/share/6a5221f0-e3fc-83eb-bc15-74420002b6...
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2mo ago
I gave him this video file https://streamable.com/1bxxyf
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