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Google to buy Wiz for $32B
- colesantiago 2y agoWhy isn't there an open source self hosted Wiz competitor, perhaps now one can start to emerge after this acquisition for those who don't want Google.
- leohonexus 2y agoThere's Wazuh, but it's more of an XDR (i.e. anti-virus) and SIEM solution than what Wiz is offering. https://wazuh.com/ https://wazuh.com/ https://github.com/wazuh/wazuh https://github.com/wazuh/wazuh
- sidcool 2y agoWhy would Google, a leader in security, spend so much on another security firm? Wiz must have something amazing under their sleeve.
- dj_gitmo 2y agoThis is just how tech has worked forever. Large established companies are not great at developing new products, so they buy startups. Youtube was a startup. Google Docs was a startup. Hell, Network Address Translation was a startup at one point.
- happyopossum 2y ago> a leader in security Google is arguably a thought leader in security, but from a revenue and customer base standpoint? Not even close.
- upcoming-sesame 2y agoLooks like they already have the Gemini logo so integration should be simple https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiz_(company)#/media/File%3AWiz_company_logo.png https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiz_(company)#/media/File%3A...
- jumperabg 2y agoInteresting, could it be that their software is built by Gemini, the acquisition is managed by Gemini, and the Gemini in Google made a $32B deal with the Gemini at Wiz?
- sidcool 2y agoWow. That's a huge amount for Cybersecurity.
- mmaunder 2y agoAnyone got a sense for where the value is in Wiz? Revenue? IP? Any customers here?
- datadrivenangel 2y agoPeople seem to really enjoy their product, which is very uncommon in the Enterprise Security Tools space.
- airstrike 2y agoNext year's revenue estimated to be $1B, so definitely real money there but that doesn't speak to value... 32.0x is wild
- mmaunder 2y agoThanks
- dhx 2y agoData for nation state espionage and industrial espionage? Whoever owns Wiz obtains read only access to large company and government cloud networks. Even in the Wiz outpost model where the scanning engine is deployed into the user's own cloud network, results from scans are sent back to Wiz Cloud, and this includes sensitive information such as "Installed packages, Exposed secrets, Malware detection".[1] For an example real world deployment, GitLab SaaS public documentation expects the "Wiz Runtime Sensor" to be installed in every container.[2] This Wiz software requires highly elevated privileges to a level that the GitLab security risk assessment only briefly describes.[3] The data Wiz collects on customers appears to allow answering of queries such as: 1. Which containers of government agencies in country X have the xz-utils library installed? Of these containers, what other software is installed alongside? How many of these containers are exposed to the Internet, directly or indirectly? 2. Which government agencies in country X have a publicly exposed service vulnerable to CVE-20xx-xxxx? 3. For top 200 companies, plot the popularity of AWS or Azure service ACME123 over the past 12 months compared to competing Google service ACME456. Aside from security risks of having sensitive information of entire governments or large organisations hoovered up by Wiz, use of the "Wiz Runtime Sensor" also includes the risk of an incident similar to the failed CrowdStrike Falcon Sensor update of 2024. The criticisms above are not specific to Wiz. There are many other competing products/services with similarly poor architectures and lack of protection of sensitive IT system information of governments and large organisations. [1] https://cloud.google.com/architecture/partners/id-prioritize-security-risks-with-wiz#use_wiz_outpost_to_keep_data_in_your_project https://cloud.google.com/architecture/partners/id-prioritize... [2] https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/gl-infra/readiness/-/tree/master/wiz-runtime-sensor https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/gl-infra/readiness/-/tree/mast... [3] https://github.com/wiz-sec/charts/blob/master/wiz-sensor/templates/daemonset.yaml#L125 https://github.com/wiz-sec/charts/blob/master/wiz-sensor/tem...
- 1970-01-01 2y agoOne wonders if $32B spent "pluggin' up the holes" would accomplish more. A lot of open source code could be rewritten at this price point.
- awill 2y agoBut not by tomorrow. Google is trying to pay their way into cloud leadership. Because they can’t catch up organically.
- jordanb 2y agoThey're paying mostly for Wiz's customer book, who they will quickly alienate and drive to competitors.
- _countzero_ 2y agoPaying $32 billion dollars for a customer book with no network effect is insane
- warkdarrior 2y agoA lot of "holes" are misconfigurations. Not sure how rewriting open source code helps with that.
- eitally 2y agoImho, and as a xoogler who's been in Google Cloud's ecosystem the past few years, Google Cloud's three big focus areas have been AI (this is an evolution from their historical focus on data, then also analytics), Distributed Cloud (Anthos++) and security (post the Mandiant acquisition). They'll never be able to compete on base infra, given their late entry into the game, lack of presence in certain markets, and the lock the competition has in some industries (Azure in industrial/mfg, AWS in pharma, etc), and they know that, so they've lately been focused on what they believe they can control. One of those things is the narrative that Google Cloud is the most secure cloud. It shouldn't be overlooked that acquiring Wiz is also a way for Google to secure a beachhead in half the Fortune 100, many of which are "enemy" territory. The price is high, but there aren't many options available and Wiz has the advantage of being built on Google Cloud natively, and already have Marketplace integrations completed. https://cloud.google.com/customers/wiz https://cloud.google.com/customers/wiz
- mrweasel 2y agoI can't help feel like this will be rolled into GCP and quickly lose support for Azure and AWS and then just die. That's a lot of money to spend to kill off a business.
- arccy 2y agoGCP has been doing more multi cloud stuff lately though: Anthos for K8s in other clouds, BigQuery Omni for bigquery in other clouds
- glenngillen 2y agoThey even had a whole campaign recently (maybe reInvent?) that said something to the effect of “we know we’re you’re second cloud”
- klooney 2y agoI rolled out their "workloads for AWS" stuff recently, it was pretty slick to be able to have AWS IAM roles just translate to GCP roles. You don't have to run your own CA like you do for AWS Anywhere.
- CannoloBlahnik 2y agoNobody Beats the Wiz is great, but $32B is so much money.
- LgLasagnaModel 2y agoCould have gotten a better deal for Crazy Eddie
- buildsjets 2y agoThe Craziest part about Eddie was his business plan. Steal from your own company for 10 years, take the company public, gradually reduce your stealing over the course of 5 years to show a rapidly increasing profit margin, sell company to a hedge fund and cash out the profit. Then, go to jail for 8 years. https://www.financialpipeline.com/financial-scams-the-too-crazy-story-of-crazy-eddie-electronics/ https://www.financialpipeline.com/financial-scams-the-too-cr...
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- whitepoplar 2y agoCan anyone with security expertise clarify what Wiz actually does? Is it a legitimate company or is it fuzzy consultingware?
- itscrush 2y agoWiz uses various API's via read access in your accounts/orgs/subscriptions to assess risk of configuration. They also snapshot your disks, cloning them to Wiz accounts to provide secrets scanning / vuln scanning / etc against your infra. These resulting risks / findings are scored and provided in their SAAS Wiz console via dashboards / APIs / integrations with remediation guidance.
- xorcist 2y ago> They also snapshot your disks, cloning them to Wiz accounts I can see how that could be worth $32B.
- shakna 2y agoThey were the one's to first report on DeepSeek's recent data leak, and they've found a few others. One exploit I remember Wiz finding was "ChaosDB". A flaw in Microsoft's Cosmos DB allowed anyone to use the default-enabled Jupyter Notebook to basically dump and modify anyone's databases, without authentication. Full admin access.
- InkCanon 2y agoWould also be interested in this. I don't know anyone who uses Wiz. Google says they had 350 million in revenue last year, aiming for 1 billion this year. So 100x revenue TTM. Crazy stuff.
- airstrike 2y agoFYI we don't really value companies on a TTM basis so 32.0x Revenue would be the right multiple to quote
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- aswerty 2y agoWiz seems to only be about 4 years old, as per wikipedia. That valuation in such a short amount of time surely must be some kind of record? Or am I missing something?
- InkCanon 2y ago~5 years by now. But there is a bit of fine print. The founders all founded another cloud security company in 2010, which was acquired by Microsoft. They were all graduates of Israel's famous Unit 8200. So while the literal company was founded in 2020, it is very likely a lot of both the knowledge, expertise and quite possibly product was already in development before it.
- shmatt 2y agoyes, every 8200 founder i know already has the next product ready to launch in alpha the day after the time limit on their previous acquisition runs out
- jerlam 2y agoYou joke, but something similar happened at my old company, and I suspect it's relatively common for serial entrepreneurs. The founders, who are now flush with cash, time and ideas; are quickly speedrunning the steps creating their previous company, in the same market, but now with more access to capital and employees from their previous company who would rather work for a startup than a large conglomerate, while fixing all the mistakes from their previous venture.
- InkCanon 2y agoI 90% meant that it was the skills, industry knowledge and connections/reputations they built before Wiz, but it is true that most companies are conceived and planned far ahead of their actually registrations. Sensible people don't exactly just quit their jobs and start a company in a few days. They conceive, do research, discuss and (I suspect in Wiz's case) prototype before they commit. Its definitely a smart move, there's a very real valuation and PR advantage if you delay your actual founding, so your time to X revenue looks shorter.
- Klaster_1 2y agoKinda confusing given Wiz is also a Google internal frontend framework.
- azangru 2y agoThey want more wizes
- drcongo 2y agoThat's a lot of speed.
- ceva 2y agobig tech should be forbidden of purchasing anything, especially big 5
- coldpie 2y agoThe voters disagreed and elected an extremely big tech friendly government.
- guappa 2y agoI'm sure that didn't factor in at all in why the voters voted what they voted.
- blitzar 2y agoThis represents 32 billion good reasons to build products to serve big techs platforms and customers. Sherlocking is obviously the risk.
- amazingamazing 2y agoGoogle has some amazing negotiating skills - paying 50% more for something they literally tried to get not even a year ago... (they tried to get it at 23 billing not even a year ago) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41042034 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41042034 That being said, Instagram and WhatsApp were expensive for Facebook and those ended up being a steal. Time will tell, as usual.
- scarface_74 2y agoThe difference is that Google is the worse product company among the big tech companies. It’s like the modern day Yahoo! - where acquisitions go to die.
- apercu 2y agoI don't know man, iPhones and Macs are really buggy, bloated/full of unnecessary features, and user hostile. Microsoft products are also hot garbage. The cars we get to pay tens of thousands (or even hundreds) are pretty much garbage now. It's not just Google.
- scarface_74 2y agoI am not talking about opinions on quality. I’m talking about objective measures in introducing a new product that moves the needle as far as revenue/profit and market share that is not cancelled quickly
- bigyabai 2y agoAgain, the parent's point stands. Apple is not changing the game with Apple Vision Pro or Apple Intelligence. Microsoft isn't getting accolades for Windows 11 and Copilot. It's not always smart to bet the farm on a product that nobody wants to pay for. Objectively speaking Google is one of the few companies that saw where the puck was headed and skated there. They built TensorFlow, they sponsored serious local AI research. Now they build their own in-house training and inference hardware. Relative to the struggling we see from the rest of FAANG, I would argue Google is perhaps the only successful competitor left. I despise their monopoly abuse of AdSense, but they're not going to be effectively prosecuted with protectionist American policy defending them. Google "won" the services sector and now everyone and their mother is butthurt.
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- yathaid 2y agoThe Trump admin has shown the same attitude as the Biden admin when it comes to mergers. So why do they think the merger will go through this time?
- zifpanachr23 2y agoBecause the one thing I don't think you can plausibly say about the security software space is that there is a lack of options. It uniquely seems to be fragmented and messy compared to most other parts of the software industry,(not sure why, just saying what I observe. So the market situation looks very different to the ones that the DOJ was going after (like Google in ads,if Wiz was a big ad company then maybe the government would be more interested in trying to block it). Wiz isn't even close to having some kind of insurmountably dominant market share in their specific area of expertise either.
- kmfrk 2y agoRejecting a $23B offer to get $32B less than a year later doesn't sound half bad. https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/23/24204198/google-wiz-acquisition-called-off-23-billion-cloud-cybersecurity https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/23/24204198/google-wiz-acqui...
- phendrenad2 2y agoI was trying to figure out where the deja vu was coming from. This explains it!
- dcchambers 2y agoGoogle's M&A team: Oops we switched the 2 and 3 on that offer document, let's fix it and try again.
- Sohcahtoa82 1y agoJimmy switched the numbers!
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- shprd 2y agoWhat changed from last year? The deal that failed? The article says: > The price tag is much higher than the roughly $23 billion Google had offered for Wiz last year before antitrust worries forced the startup to shelve the deal. > Wall Street is optimistic that the Trump administration would drop some antitrust policies Is that it? It's crazy to announce the deal before there's any actual policy changes. Why the rush? It's not like someone is outbidding them here.
- ecshafer 2y agoThere is a new administration, and the new one doesn't have a DOJ that is extremely anti big tech, and going after them for antitrust on everything.
- coldpie 2y agoDid you read the article? > The price tag is much higher than the roughly $23 billion Google had offered for Wiz last year before antitrust worries forced the startup to shelve the deal. ... A harsh regulatory environment in 2024 had made it difficult for many firms to push through large deals, but Wall Street is optimistic that the Trump administration would drop some antitrust policies.
- shprd 2y agoYes, I made my comment more clear.
- airstrike 2y agoReminder they also bought Mandiant for $5.4B in 2022
- tnolet 2y agoFor hardcore Wiz users: What are their killer features that you use day in, day out?
- aweiher 2y agoWe use wiz and rapid7, so I can compare these two: Usability of Wiz and the ability to adapt it is so much better. Everyone can get a seat without extra costs, enabling shift-left for the dev teams. Projects make sure they only see what they need to see. The query engine is top. There are very good presets. Create Boards to share custom queries with the teams. Compliance frameworks are available. You could inspect the rules, they are written in OPA rego and you could add your own rules. Cloudtrail search is also a lot better than the one aws is providing. I could go on and on and on .. this solution has so many powerful features.
- zifpanachr23 2y agoThis was the most detailed and helpful explanation of what exactly the deal is with Wiz I think in this whole comment section.
- OccamsMirror 2y ago> $32 billion in an all-cash deal, Wow. I wonder how Google justified this acquisition. I fear they will eventually shutter this service, and likely without even pulling anything good into their own cloud offerings.
- mjlee 2y agoI wonder what level of insight Google will now have in to how AWS, Oracle and Azure’s customers use their cloud. Even just in aggregate I imagine there’s some useful data.
- orliesaurus 2y agobiggest Google acquisition yet or what?
- hyperbrainer 2y agoYes. The company’s previous biggest deal was its $12.5bn acquisition of Motorola Mobility in 2012, which it sold two years later for $2.9bn. [0] [0] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/18/google-parent-alphabet-buy-cybersecurity-wiz-israeli-startup https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/18/google-pa...
- xiphias2 2y agoMotorola was bought for patents to defend Android, it was a clear win. Wiz is much harder to understand.
- nashashmi 2y agoCan’t help but predict that this will be a similar outcome. If they did not have a security division, this acquisition could work. But colliding two heavy security behemoths together is like the collision of two galaxies with a higher enteopy.
- hyperbrainer 2y agoWhat I don't understand is how you get to a valuation of $32B. My quick googling showed me that the revenue for Wiz is about $700M. Even if I assume the existing customers + name + platform/assets is worth several billion, where is this number coming from? To be clear: I am young and ignorant. I am trying to learn, not criticise
- nashashmi 2y agoMy estimation is that there is another competitor that they wanted to out compete ... like Facebook paid $19B for whatsapp to outcompete google. The maximum market cap Wiz had was $13.2 Billion. So Google is paying 3x times the price. > Wiz has agreed to a termination fee of more than $3.2 billion, a source told Reuters, one of the highest fees in M&A history. Not sure how they can afford this if it doesn't work.
- atonse 2y agoThis is probably a dumb question, but what does all cash mean? Does it literally mean that they are putting $32bn in Wiz's bank account (or probably some kind of escrow, who knows) which then gets dispersed to their shareholders? What usually happens otherwise? Would they do partly google stock, etc? And each shareholder gets some kind of multiple? (you get your N amount of Wiz shares X .72 = your number of google shares), or something of that sort?
- epolanski 2y agoAcquisitions often involve swaps of shares.
- bhouston 2y agoThe press releases say cash deal.
- whereismyacc 2y agoThe question was about what happens in other cases.
- kadomony 2y agoYes. They became billionaires overnight.
- thinkindie 2y agoOtherwise it depends on the deal structure. Especially if it's an acqui-hire, or founders are involved, it can be a combination of shares, options, earn-out, guaranteed bonus, certain salary levels (much higher then their current one) etc etc, and cash. Usually 100% cash deal is the most sought after unless the acquirer has a very solid business (in that case shares and options could be valuable too).
- jaimebuelta 2y agoThey say that's an all-cash purchase. So it seems that they really put $32bn in the bank account.
- xnx 2y agoIs enterprise security software like consumer antivirus software (i.e. unnecessary (or even harmful) if you know what you're doing)?
- happyopossum 2y ago"Enterprise" and "you know what you're doing" don't go hand-in-hand. You might know what you're doing, but does everyone else at your enterprise? Every single devops person who can push a CL to staging (that may not get properly reviewed)? Every marketing whiz who is using a dataviz tool against a cloud storage bucket you didn't even know existed? Every support engineer who is on-call at 2:#0am and can fix a customer's problem with one tiny IAM change?
- zifpanachr23 2y agoI think that is obviously the case. That being said, one of the reasons these things sell is that the majority of people sitting behind computers in large enterprises absolutely DO NOT have any idea what they were doing. Once you get to a certain scale, the idea that you can "just be competent" and maintain high standards and configure your boxes the right way the first time every time btecomes logistically impossible. Liability and insurance also is a big concern for large companies. The ability to blame somebody else for your security failings and check off all the silly boxes is pretty valuable. I'm sure consumer windows antivirus software would become a big hit again if you were for all intents and purposes being legally strong armed into purchasing it.
- ChrisArchitect 2y agoOfficial Wiz post: https://www.wiz.io/blog/wiz-joining-google https://www.wiz.io/blog/wiz-joining-google
- yujzgzc 2y agoSometime explain the strategic rationale behind this? Google's previous big acquisition in the cloud space, Looker, didn't exactly pan out.
- sjm-lbm 2y ago.. and all the talk of multicloud makes me feel like I'm reading an IBM press release, which is never good.
- bhouston 2y agoI think Google sees a fast growing company and is acquiring it. Many GCP related acquisitions are weird, like Looker, Apogee and are awkward fits. Unsure how this goes.
- yujzgzc 2y agoOn top of it this one is an amount that you wouldn't pay if it wasn't existential, and it really doesn't feel like it is.
- epolanski 2y agoWhat's in for Google? Like 32B is no small sum, and I don't really understand Wiz business (product yes, business and numbers much less).
- fcantournet 2y agoI sounds insane to me number wise too. Even growth stocks have about 5x the price to revenue.
- happyopossum 2y ago> Even growth stocks have about 5x the price to revenue. A PE of 5 is not a growth stock - that’s the kind of PE you’d see on a barely surviving mid-cap in decline…. The combined PE of the S&P500 is in the low to mid 30s these days!
- TeaBrain 2y ago>A PE of 5 is not a growth stock PE is not the same as PS (price to sales or revenue). Startups and growth companies are often valued by PS since they have revenue growth, but are often not yet turning a profit (making their PE < 0).
- epolanski 2y agoRevenue and earnings are separate things. In fact price/revenue of sp500 is a disaster right now: 2.92. That means that SP500 companies on average are worth 3 times their sales!
- Reasoning 2y agoThe cloud computing market is ~$600B annually. Google has a market share of 12% in it while Amazon sits at 30% and Microsoft at 21%. I'm assuming this is Google trying to stay competitive in that market.
- epolanski 2y agoAnd they gonna get all that cloud needs through Wix? Even if they did, I just don't see the play.
- nikhizzle 2y agoPerhaps Google is scared about losing its cash cow in search, and is needing to cement their position in cloud compute.
- ChrisArchitect 2y agoGoogle Cloud post: Google + Wiz: Strengthening Multicloud Security https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/identity-security/google-announces-agreement-acquire-wiz https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/identity-security/goo...
- dmchk 2y agoGemini cyberattack exploit capabilities about to become better
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- kats 2y agoDon't do it!
- ChicagoBoy11 2y agoI'm marginally in the IT space... Is there anything to my reaction that at least in dollar terms this is a multiple of the dollar amount of what Whatsapp was acquired back in the day, which was a large consumer facing product that I could see was quite literally taking over messaging all over the world, and this is a... platform I've never heard of? I'm just trying to make sense of the numbers.
- yen223 2y agoI don't think WhatsApp had the same kind of revenue that Wiz has, even normalised for 2014 numbers.
- disgruntledphd2 2y agoRevenue and profit are very different. Like, it's easy to pump revenue at a loss. I don't really see the benefits of this acquisition for Google, but congrats to the Wiz team!
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- noboostforyou 2y ago> I don't really see the benefits of this acquisition for Google At the very least it's a giant book of sales leads.
- disgruntledphd2 1y agoYeah, I see that but it doesn't really feel like $32bn worth of value.
- atemerev 2y agoWhatsApp purchase was for that sweet sweet data of everyone's contact lists (this was their original innovation for onboarding — just give us access to your phone book and we'll tell you who else is on WhatsApp). Their earnings were completely irrelevant in price discussions. The billions were paid for the dataset.
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- shilgapira 2y agoHow dare the founders be born in a country!
- cess11 2y ago[flagged]
- shilgapira 2y agoTel Aviv is not the capital of Israel, and the rest of the ludicrous claims and blood libels in your post are at about the same level of accuracy. At least you're consistent.
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- cess11 2y agoTel Aviv is the de facto capital. That's where most countries put their embassies and the claim on Jerusalem is contested. Are you a christian zionist?
- jacooper 2y agoYou are saying this as if the founder is a normal civilian. The guy served in unit 8200 and 81 around the beginning of the 2000s(Second Intifada, first g a z a war, if not more), and overstayed his mandatory service. This isn't a normal company, just like every Israeli security "startup" with founders coming from idf intelligence units. Even ignoring this, 32b for such a company just doesn't make sense.
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- securingsincity 2y agoI imagine Wiz was smart enough to include a big payout if the acquisition doesn't go through. There is a ton of attention on Google by both political parties in the US and the EU is not a fan either.
- _countzero_ 2y agoThis seems like a silly and ridiculous acquisition. Surely for $32 billion almost any security technology could be replicated? You could hire several thousand best in class engineers and build whatever Wiz has in house… buying this almost makes it seem like Google has no idea how to build new innovative products, which I guess a lot of people already think. For Instagram and WhatsApp it was the user base and growth that was being bought, which is much harder to acquire than some random B2B saas security software.
- InkCanon 2y agoThere is actually some drama between Wiz and Orca, a company founded one year before Wiz. Orca alleged Wiz copied them, and Orca does operate in the same space. But a lot of hundred billion dollar companies are built on moats, integration and switching costs.
- _countzero_ 2y agoYeah but Google is a trillion dollar company. Why do they need to spend $32billion on a company whose only value add seems to be they are good at finding exploits? You could hire every cyber security researcher in the country for $32billion.
- InkCanon 2y agoIt is a difficult question to answer. For example, why did Google acquire YouTube in the early 2010s? A platform technically and engineering wise similar to YouTube would have been very easy to replicate. IMO the best explanation goes back all the way to the days of Standard Oil/Carnegie Steel company - and quite possibly even the East India Company. There's an enormous benefit to consolidate various businesses under you and create a monopoly. Today in tech, monopolies are far from being as straightforward as being the dominant producer of a commodity like oil or steel. But there's undoubtedly some similar mechanisms involved. Synergy is one way to put it, but I think it's too restrictive. I think the other part of the equation missing is if Google did create their own Wiz, Wiz would still be on the market, and it'd be a bitter fight which they could very well lose.
- jckrichabdkejdb 2y agoCould've bought reddit with the same amount.
- _countzero_ 2y agoYeah, does WIZ just have a pile of 0 days that they are sitting on? Or a bunch of data stolen from various cloud providers. This is an extremely weird and suspicious acquisition imo.
- film42 2y agoI'm surprised this acquisition didn't happen sooner. The first time I used Wiz I knew a big cloud provider would be snatching them up at some point. Why? Because every enterprise that decides to use cloud providers then needs to find someone to keep that cloud environment safe. But also, and may more important, you get to see everyones cloud usage, across all providers, with a high level of permissions. Said differently, Google can now target customers with massive spend across other cloud providers and work to migrate them to GCP, at a price that's just cheap enough to over come the switching cost.
- belter 2y agoIf you know the Cloud market you know nobody is moving to GCP :-)
- byteknight 2y agoHow on earth does buying Wiz force other developers to move? I think the tinfoil is too tight.
- disgruntledphd2 2y agoThere's no force but Google can now leverage the data from Wiz to target good customers for other services.
- savanaly 2y agoHow is this not a good thing for everyone involved? Or am I wrong for reading the comment in a tone that I perceived to be critical?
- disgruntledphd2 1y agoI dunno, I don't like the anti-trust implications (using Wiz data to target companies on AWS/Azure) but other than that I don't really care. That's probably cos I am far away from this space.
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- archsyscall 2y agoThis deal might be more than just strengthening cloud security—it could be a strategic move for Google’s multi-cloud positioning. If Wiz’s customer insights help drive migrations to GCP, the $32B price tag starts to make more sense beyond just a tech acquisition
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- kamranjon 2y agoI’m just curious if anyone here has actually heard of this company before this announcement? If you have, what is your opinion on this acquisition?
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- sudo-i 2y agoGrowing up in the NYC area this is what I think of when someone says the wiz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wiz_(store) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wiz_(store)
- Ylpertnodi 2y agoI have 'wiz' lights in my place - home-networked lighting system. Which works. Well. For me....so glad g hasn't acquired them.
- philshem 2y agoI also thought at first that G acquired the budget smart bulb company but then I realized it’s “WiZ” and not “Wiz”. https://www.wizconnected.com/en-us https://www.wizconnected.com/en-us
- TuringNYC 2y ago>> Growing up in the NYC area this is what I think of when someone says the wiz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wiz_(store) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wiz_(store) Growing up in NYC, it is was impossible to not remember the "Nobody Beats the Wiz" jingle
- sundarurfriend 2y agoAs a fan of British comedy, this is what I think of when I hear wiz: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wiz#Etymology_2 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wiz#Etymology_2
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- sudo-i 2y agoGuess this is what laying off thousands of people paid for.
- bschmidt56 2y ago[flagged]
- siliconc0w 2y agoStock is down, definitely overpaid
- weatherlite 2y agothe entire market is down today, tech especially
- mattlutze 2y agoI was wondering why like every Wiz business development person was cold-engaging me on LinkedIn and email last year.
- thiago_fm 2y agoHere's some context in what this means: Currently, Crowdstrike, Zscaler and other solutions compete in a similar space than Wiz. Google likely believes if can offer Wiz sec products bundled with Google Cloud. It isn't a terrible idea. But Wiz itself works on multiple clouds, so it seems that Google can also grow it on their own. Cloud security companies are growing a lot, and might be a growth lever for Alphabet, as its other businesses' revenue growth are slowing down. My assumption is that this will actually make it easier for Crowdstrike and Zscaler to keep their market share, as they are pure-play companies on Cloud security and Alphabet has too many businesses to manage. For me, it looks overpriced. Wiz has been growing a lot, but under Alphabet it might not perform as well as it did. The big winners are the founders and whoever owned Wiz options.
- alephnerd 2y agoZscaler isn't a prominent player in the CNAPP space - they missed the ball on that, but they also didn't need to tbh. ZS specializes in SSE/SASE - and does really well in that segment.
- siva7 2y agoThey didn't want to buy Github.. too expensive. But Wiz price tag makes sense to them?
- walterbell 2y agoCustomer feedback (2024), https://old.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/1c1s9r2/wiz_is_insert_your_experience/ https://old.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/1c1s9r2/wiz_... > Wiz combines a graph search for asset management with agentless vuln and malware scanning that clones EBS volumes and scans them on their infrastructure. That's a great combo for vuln management, but has some downsides like delays between scans and cloud costs. They have a sensor with solid detection rules, and are okay at a bunch of other stuff like cloud log threat detection and sensitive data detection. They've basically pushed what you can do without an agent to the limit. VC approach to enterprise sales, https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/b1a1jn00hc https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/b1a1jn00hc & https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41042462 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41042462 > [Cyberstarts] shows an internal rate of return of more than 100%, an unusual figure even for the best funds in the world.. The first sales come from the loyal CISOs who work with the fund.. Ra'anan offers [CISOs] the big dream of the world of employees - shares in a venture capital fund.. all funds that specialize in cyber go after CISOs and entice them with dinners, conferences, and some also offer them holdings in the fund. However.. he perfected it to a completely different level.. No CISO has ever received compensation for purchasing products.. They receive 4% of the success fees of the general partner (GP) in the fund.
- g8oz 2y agoIsn't this a roundabout kickback scheme?
- walterbell 1y agoDiscussed last year in the linked HN subthread.
- xyst 2y agoWhat the hell is "Wiz"? Some nobody company that was formed <5 yrs ago and now gets acquired for _$32B_ G might be the modern day IBM. You would think G would have the brain power to compete and provide out of the box security for their own platform. I guess the MBA losers at the top have been shaving too much from engineering to do this properly. The acquisition hiring in big tech is wild to me. And the consolidation of power into a few companies continues.
- alephnerd 2y ago> What the hell is "Wiz" Just because your ignorant about significant portions of the tech industry doesn't mean you need to be dismissive.
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- kernal 2y agoI hear the Internet is on computers now.
- happyopossum 2y ago> Some nobody company That was the fastest to $100m ARR in history > Some nobody company That was a Decacorn ~3yrs after its founding > Some nobody company With ~half of the Fortune 100 as paying customers. I get it - most people here aren’t in cybersecurity, nor do they understand the space, but let me put it this way - if you are looking for the top 5 cybersecurity companies by mindshare of people in the industry, Wiz is in the conversation.
- 0x500x79 2y agoAgree with most of your points, the one correction (that I think is important) is that they were the fastest from 1M ARR - 100M ARR. Not a straight fastest to 100M.
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- rambambram 2y agoI couldn't reply on your other comments along the same lines. I wanted to ask you if you care to elaborate on the things you say about Wiz? Like a lot of people here in the comments I also never heard of Wiz, I'm just curious.
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- rambambram 2y agoDon't be such a smart ass, just tell more. Otherwise shut your trap with your repeated posts all over the place. > Curiosity is a great sin Curiosity has saved my ass more times than I can count. If you don't want to tell, that's okay. Just say that.
- dboreham 2y agoThe number of O(10)B$ companies acquired that I never heard of is alarmingly high. Someone should curate a list of them so I don't feel so clueless..
- Fokamul 2y agoRIP Wiz team.
- spaintech 2y agoMy take on why Google bought Wiz is pretty straightforward. First off, Wiz brings a rock-solid CRM loaded with all those juicy contracts from the top cloud players. Add to that a proven enterprise team that knows exactly how to sell the product, and whom to sell to. And you’ve got a recipe for success. Every Wiz win is just a possible upsell for GCP; especially when GCP isn’t even the market leader in cloud. IMO, it opens the door to a whole lot of sales opportunities and deep-rooted relationships with top-tier cloud customers. To me, that all points to a pretty hefty price tag on the table
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- jb1991 2y agoWould be cool if they call the new product G-Wiz.
- nahimn 1y agounder rated dad joke. 10/10
- purple_ferret 2y agoProof you don't need to own the .com domain name to make it big?: http://wiz.com/ http://wiz.com/
- SSLy 2y ago`.io` is `.com` equivalent for the market it addresses.
- 1024core 2y agoDidn't Google acquire another cloud security outfit called Mandiant sometime back? How is this different from that?
- happyopossum 2y ago> another cloud security outfit called Mandiant sometime back Mandiant wasn't/isn't "cloud security" - they're primarily security research, threat intel, and incident response. Completely different space, customer base, and product set.
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- leftcenterright 2y agoI still find it amazing that: - Businesses pay the cloud providers to allow them to use compute/disk/network - Businesses pay to hire the engineers who can work on cloud - Businesses pay to hire security engineers who can secure the applications in cloud - Businesses pay to hire FinOps to optimize their cloud usage - Businesses hire security companies to secure their cloud usage (e.g. Wiz was one such company) - Now cloud provider has to acquire the security company to secure their own cloud? Either I am too old, or there is something wrong here. Let's not forget that at the same time many big businesses do just fine by not using AWS/GCP/Azure.
- happyopossum 2y ago> - Now cloud provider has to acquire the security company to secure their own cloud? No - this acquisition is about selling Wiz to cloud customers. Deploying on cloud securely is a solved problem if you set and follow good policies. Virtually nobody is doing this, ergo companies like Wiz that will tell you when you're doing something stupid.
- leftcenterright 2y ago> if you set and follow good policies Is it really that hard? like I listed out, it is definitely not cheap. There isn't a shortage of skilled engineers in IT after massive layoffs. What's the catch then?
- guappa 1y agoYou can provision a vm with a click and then after a few years nobody has any clue what these machines do, if they're still needed and if their access levels are reasonable.
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- czk 2y ago> Wiz has raised a total of $1.9 billion from a combination of venture capital funds and private investors > Wiz agreed to acquire Tel Aviv-based Raftt, a cloud-based developer collaboration platform, for $50 million in December 2023. In April 2024, the company acquired cloud detection and response startup, Gem Security, for around $350 million > Wiz was founded in January 2020 by Assaf Rappaport, Yinon Costica, Roy Reznik, and Ami Luttwak, all of whom previously founded Adallom. > Adallom was founded in 2012 by Assaf Rappaport, Ami Luttwak and Roy Reznik, who are former members of the Israeli Intelligence Corps’ Unit 8200 and alumni of the Talpiot program. > Adallom was reportedly acquired by Microsoft for $320 million in July 2015 > On March 18, 2025, Google announced an all-cash acquisition of Wiz for $32 billion Had never heard of Wiz until they posted the blog post about the DeepSeek database being public earlier this year. https://www.wiz.io/blog/wiz-research-uncovers-exposed-deepseek-database-leak https://www.wiz.io/blog/wiz-research-uncovers-exposed-deepse...
- brightball 2y agoDidn’t Palo Alto Networks come out of 8200 too?
- marcus0x62 2y agoThe primary founder (Nir Zuk) is a Unit 8200 alumni, as are the founders of Checkpoint and a bunch of other cyber security companies. Nir Zuk is also a US citizen and went out of his way to base PANW in the US, including their hardware manufacturing and software engineering operations. You'll find former-intelligence blob operators in a great many cyber security companies. Including former American intel employees[0]. Hell, the CIA basically has their own VC fund[1]. Also, there is zero evidence any of these people are currently acting at the behest of their former employers, apart from obviously the CIA venture fund acts at the behest of the CIA. 0 - Robert M Lee https://dragos.com https://dragos.com, Keith Alexander (formerly https://ironnet.com https://ironnet.com,) amongst many others 1 - In Q Tel https://www.iqt.org/ https://www.iqt.org/
- coliveira 2y agoThese companies are the closest you can get to a legal mafia, they are effectively charging companies around the world to keep them "safe". In other words, a job that is traditionally considered to be a basic service of the government is now being privatized by people that nobody knows if we can really trust.
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- 999900000999 2y agoSeems like an answer to everyone blaming Firebase,AWS, and other cloud providers for not forcing them to do basic security checks Wiz will do it. Always happy to see a good exit, good show. I've worked with cloud for a long time. I sorta blame myself for not seeing the market for this and not starting up my own company. I was too busy messing with machine learning, but never going much beyond sentiment analysis. Had I also stayed on that path, and maybe had a few million dollars in startup Capital laying around I'd be a billionaire by now ( yes this is hyperbole). Oh well, time to cry myself asleep as a forever middle class software engineer...
- codingmoney 2y agoThe acquisition of Wiz by Google raises some interesting questions about the future of cloud security. On one hand, it could lead to better integration and innovation in Google Cloud's security offerings. On the other hand, it might concentrate too much power in the hands of a single vendor. It will be interesting to see how this deal affects the competitive landscape and whether other cloud providers will respond with similar acquisitions or partnerships.
- Yasuraka 2y agoThis reeks of GPT.
- bitsandboots 2y agoI went "huh, they're buying the smart light company from phillips?" Different wiz. And best of luck to the Wiz folks! Whenever I see Google acquisitions I just wonder how long until they end up in the graveyard listing.
- gnuser 2y agoits like every problem slice Ive been solving over the decades as a sysadmin is a huge market opportunity
- majestik 2y agoThis deal isn't about security, it's about data. Google already have one of the best security teams in the industry - Project Zero [0]. They don't need Wiz's "enterprise" expertise for security. This deal is about DATA. Wiz, as a cybersecurity vendor, have full remote access to their customers cloud compute storage (EC2 EBS volumes, etc) in the name of "security scanning" - this is actually part of their unique selling point - "agent-less scanning" which is unlike traditional security tools that require an agent installed in the OS. Instead, Wiz is able to just clone your full data volume and scan it locally in their cloud accounts/VPC. With this deal Google has bought a ton of confidential data from Wiz's customers without their explicit knowledge or approval, and they will use it to improve Google's AI models like Gemini and probably several other products. A year ago Google struck a $60M/yr deal with Reddit to exclusively license their content [1] for the same reason, and that data is probably much smaller and less valuable than the data Wiz has access to from their customers, which include companies like Morgan Stanley, DocuSign, Slack, Plaid, and others. [2] Sources: 0: https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com 1: https://www.reuters.com/technology/reddit-ai-content-licensing-deal-with-google-sources-say-2024-02-22/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/reddit-ai-content-licensi... 2: https://www.wiz.io/customers https://www.wiz.io/customers
- breppp 2y agoSo many sources yet no source of the actually outrageous claim that Google will use this to illegally siphon customer data maybe this deal is about a company with a lot of revenue in an area google is heavily investing in: cloud security?
- diggan 2y ago> actually outrageous claim that Google will use this to illegally siphon customer data Hypothetical question as much as anything: If Google purchases a company and the data the company stores about their customers, is it illegal for them to use this data for whatever they want? Lets say it would give them an understanding of what features from AWS people tend to use the most, and they use that to improve Google Cloud, would that be illegal?
- seydor 2y agowiz probbaly found some big vulnerability in google, and they are now forced to buy them.
- bookofjoe 2y ago>Assaf Rappaport and his co-founders now stand to make more than $3 billion each from the sale... https://archive.ph/SoeUd https://archive.ph/SoeUd
- Keyframe 2y agotbh all of this sounds extremely suspicious. nothing they do google can't do, market share is not there for $32B, it's a couple of years old company. If it's not money laundering, which I presume it's not, what is it? It doesn't make any sense.
- tzury 2y agoIn a recent interview , one of the founders claimed that one of Wiz smart moves was using a graph database for mapping cloud resources and their relations, while perhaps all other competitors used SQL or NoSQL. It helped them “get to the point” quicker and “cleaner”.
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- kats 2y agoGoogle is making a huge mistake. They are clearly getting scammed, the price is up to $32B from $23B less than a year ago. There is no pressure or need to buy Wiz.
- dinobones 2y agoThis makes no sense. Assume 1,000 customers each generating $2m in ARR with contracts. That’s $2 billion. Assume generous 6x ARR valuation, that’s $12 billion. Where is this $20 billion premium coming from? How could the board approve this? How is this fair to shareholders? Heck, as a minor shareholder in GOOG, I don’t find this financially responsible at all. I can’t help but think sometimes these tech acquisitions have some hint of nepotism/deeper underlying motivations behind them than meets the eye.
- eranation 2y agoI have no basis for this thought other than speculation, but I imagine GCP having previously unaccessible data about a lot of AWS and Azure workloads of potential GCP customers, gotta be worth at least something... if a customer is generating 2m ARR for Wiz, how much of ARR they generate to AWS/Azure if they are not a GCP customer? Again, this is just speculation and I have no idea if it has any basis in reality, but this was my first thought back when they made the first offer.
- Taek 2y agoHow is 6x generous? Alphabet's P/E is 23. That means $2 billion rev implies $46b valuation (assuming high margins) These deals always have more than meets the eye. Google wouldn't acquire revenue at a fair market price just for revenue's sake - there's some reason they expect to get value beyond the revenue. That doesn't mean its nepotism. It could be that they think they can triple revenue per customer with some synergy. Or any number of a large set of other possibilities. If you want to understand this type of transaction better, you can read a book on M&A
- Ancalagon 2y agoThis make's Twitter's acquisition look like an absolute steal by comparison.
- cft 2y agoIn the meantime, the products that people used to use are decaying. Just today I found out that clicking on the departure date, and viewing the round-trip prices, then changing the departure date is broken in Google Flights. When Pichai leaves, it will be too late.
- hard_times 2y agoThis is one super weird acquisition
- bitlad 2y agoThere is a not-so well known fact about Wiz. Wiz is backed by Cyberstart. They are notorious for running a pay to use thing for CISOs. TLDR; there is a round about way the CISOs get paid for using tools backed by them. Therefore the startups backed by them appears to be fast growing. [1] https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/blogs/cyberstarts- https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/blogs/cyberstarts- program-sparks-debate-over-ethical-boundaries-p-3763 [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/iainmartin/2024/10/28/this-vc-built-a-cybersecurity-unicorn-machine-then-came-his-conflict-of-interest-mess/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/iainmartin/2024/10/28/this-vc-b...
- Zaheer 2y agoGreat article on the genesis of Wiz: https://www.forbes.com/sites/iainmartin/2024/10/28/this-vc-built-a-cybersecurity-unicorn-machine-then-came-his-conflict-of-interest-mess/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/iainmartin/2024/10/28/this-vc-b... https://web.archive.org/web/20250312193110/https://www.forbes.com/sites/iainmartin/2024/10/28/this-vc-built-a-cybersecurity-unicorn-machine-then-came-his-conflict-of-interest-mess/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250312193110/https://www.forbe...
- siliconc0w 2y agoA good test for the new Trump DOJ to see how much TRUMP coin and $5 million dinners at Mar-a-Lago will be needed to get this through.
- Wheaties466 2y agoI believe this is actually the second time google has tried to buy this company too. They had to give them a too good to refuse offer. While it seems like we aren't getting a ton of people who have used the product in the comments. I can tell you it checks a lot of boxes to make people sleep better at night with customer data in the cloud.
- tinyhouse 2y agoThe founder's previous exit in the same space was sold to Microsoft for $350. What a steal. The most amazing thing is that Wiz is a fairly young company. Founded in early 2000. One thing for sure. If this guy ever starts another company, I'm sending my resume :)
- smlacy 2y agoJust think: This company is 5 years old. That's just 1825 days, or 43800 hours, and they've created $32B of "value" in that time. That's an average rate of almost $750k/hour continuously. Incredible.
- kubb 2y agoAlmost... unbelievable.
- tombert 2y agoI have no idea how these corporate acquisitions are valued. Craftsman Tools was sold to Black and Decker for $500 Million. This was and is a respected tool brand with an international presence making physical and tangible products and it is apparently worth 1/64th of Wiz. I'm not even saying Wiz is overvalued, I don't know, I'm just not sure how they come up with these numbers.
- therealdrag0 2y agoI think the main calculus is around estimating future profits. Do they make a profit? Is it a crowded space? Is the market space growing? What assets do they have? People, land, factories, or intellectual IP? Etc etc. I don’t know the details of either deal but it’s easy to imagine a case where Craftsman tools is just a brand in a crowded market with no special sauce. For example Sears never even made the tools, they outsourced it. Also it sold for 900m, 500m was the initial payment.
- tombert 2y ago> Also it sold for 900m, 500m was the initial payment. Yep, you're definitely right, I misread. Still less than a billion. > I think the main calculus is around estimating future profits. Do they make a profit? Is it a crowded space? Is the market space growing? What assets do they have? People, land, factories, or intellectual IP? Etc etc. Yeah I guess that makes enough sense, though I have to admit that sometimes it feels kind of removed from reality sometimes.
- jonjojojon 2y agoIs there lock-in for Wiz customers, besides the quality of the product? I understand the crazy revenue growth, fastest to 100m ARR, but surely this needs to saturate. Maybe half the fortune 500 use Wiz,but can you imagine 100% or even 80%? Who are their competitors?
- lrae 2y agoThe biggest competitor is Orca (pretty much the same product) and they even accuse Wiz of patent infringement. Trial starts in December. https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/ryjc8dgnr https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/ryjc8dgnr Being owned by Google probably would help in those regards too now.
- odysseus 2y agoDoes this mean the Wiz app is now going to include free person category filters for their security cameras? Instead of constantly asking you to subscribe
- odysseus 1y agoNevermind, this looks like a different Wiz.
- jimnotgym 2y agoCan someone tell me what Wiz actually does, I can't make head nor tail of it from their website. Cloud security is pretty meaningless as a phrase
- 9cb14c1ec0 2y agoI dunno which VCs invested in them, but whoever did is headed for a very, very big payday.
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- drukenemo 2y agoRIP Wiz. Everything that Google puts their hands on, dies within years.
- subarctic 2y agoI take it this isn't Wiz the smart bulb company but some other Wiz?
- gregmac 2y agoYeah, I was afraid for a second there. I have a few Wiz bulbs and was hoping that ecosystem wouldn't suddenly die
- dtquad 2y ago>The stock was down 13% this year before Tuesday on worries over its hefty AI spending against the rise of China's lower-cost DeepSeek and a pullback in tech giants that led the market for the past two years. Absurd take. Google is the one AI company that is not completely dependent on Nvidia because they now use their own TPU chips for both inference and training.
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- darylteo 2y agoI had this confused with Wix
- topherPedersen 2y agoThey should have used that money to buy Perplexity.
- antirez 2y agoFrom every angle I try to look at this, it does not make 32B sense.
- aussieguy1234 2y agoI have a "wiz" app on my phone that controls my lights. When I read the headline I initially thought it was about this.
- lawrenceyan 2y agoCongrats on the acquisition!
- bloodyplonker22 2y agoAnyone here heard of Lacework? Nope. Thought so. This could have been Lacework had Mike Speiser not let his hubris catch up with himself.
- throwaway399933 2y agoI immediately went Ctrl + F "Lacework". Another Lacer! Haha, oh well... maybe at the next startup.
- Animats 2y agoThat's a lot of money for 2000 employees. $16 million per employee. How many employees get something out of this?
- guappa 1y agoA pizza party
- gatkinso 2y agoInsider baseball IMO.
- rexreed 1y ago100% -- many of these acquisitions don't start through the front door.
- nujabe 2y ago"Israel literally owned Congress" - Donald Trump [1] There has been a full and total coup of Zionist influence peddles over over the United States government. This is the lens in which you should look at this deal. The Department of Education is on the verge of being abolished, and the remaining skeleton staff have been redirected to investigate cases of "antisemitism". [2] The administration is weaponizing 'antisemitism' to unleash once unthinkable retributions against opponents of the State of Israel. The Zionist lobby is using the full levers of the US government to direct their wrath against opponents, and no one is being spared, not universities, students and even entire nations. It would be naive to think the leadership at Alphabet are unaware of that good things happen when you be good to Zionists. It's really a shame really, from 'Don't be Evil' to funding decades more years of 'Israeli Americans' using this wealth to funnel to AIPAC and other nefarious political causes. [3] [1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-israel-literally-owned-congress-a-decade-ago-today-its-the-opposite/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-israel-literally-owned-c... [2] https://time.com/7268749/education-department-staff-cuts-impact-families-children-with-disabilities/ https://time.com/7268749/education-department-staff-cuts-imp... [3] https://www.timesofisrael.com/whatsapp-founder-jan-koum-donates-record-2-million-to-aipacs-campaign-efforts/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/whatsapp-founder-jan-koum-dona...
- weatherlite 1y ago> "Israel literally owned Congress" - Donald Trump [1] Let me guess, when Trump says some crazy exaggeration you will immediately believe him if it sheds a bad light on Israel - but only then. Otherwise you wouldn't believe him because he's a pathological liar right? The silly thing is he said it was a decade ago and today its the exact opposite, so that doesn't agree with what you said at all.
- nujabe 1y agoYou might believe this guy. https://x.com/letsgobrando45/status/1847255056988373079?s=46 https://x.com/letsgobrando45/status/1847255056988373079?s=46 https://x.com/megatron_ron/status/1788092840783835473?s=46 https://x.com/megatron_ron/status/1788092840783835473?s=46
- yalogin 2y agoGoogle already owns GCP. Wiz obviously built something that differentiates themselves and fills a need. I am sure they support GCP. If so, why would google not copy and develop this functionality themselves instead of buying them out? Among the wiz customers if they use GCP already then surely they will be willing to try the functionality of google builds it. If the customer doesn’t use GCP, chances are they wont move to GCP and probably move away from wiz too after the acquisition. I don’t get why they bought them instead of copying them
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- nujabe 2y agoIf AIPAC were a publicly traded company, its stock would be through the roof today.
- twinofpoolg 2y agoOpen money laundering at its finest. Google, a Jewish company, transfers 45x money times ARR to Israel Jews. Google could have built this in-house. While millions and billions struggle this is how you do it at high level. SoonDar goes brrrrrrr.
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- dingody 2y agoI believe that ‘cloud-neutral’ companies like Wiz must ensure their neutral positioning in order to gain support from various cloud providers. I strongly doubt the willingness of cloud providers like AWS and Azure to cooperate in the future. Google is not only making a major business gamble but also testing the waters in terms of antitrust and judicial challenges.
- ponty_rick 1y agoI can see how Microsoft and AWS would now favor Wiz competitors now (Orca, Palo, Crowdstrike etc)
- lynn_xx 2y agoWiz is an amazing startup. I really like their marketing, it's so funny and it shines in terms of growth!
- magicfractal 2y agoThis is one example of ways that the US empire supports the economy of Israel (the 51st state). I would be very surprised if there isn’t a political element here.
- kbbgl87 2y agoSay more.
- llmthrow103 2y agoAmerican states wish they had as much influence on US politics as Israel.
- TriangleEdge 2y agoWhy? I have a hard time believing the engineer at Google see Wiz as innovative. The front page of Wiz.io reads like a bunch of sales bullshit. I built a security posture dashboard for a competitor and I would not say it's worth anywhere near 1b. Is Google such shit now that runtime scanning in a k8 cluster is worth billions?
- asdf6969 2y agoMossad plot
- DidYaWipe 2y agoDid I miss it, or did this entire article neglect to say WTF "Wiz" does?
- kome 2y agoThis transaction with an ICC sanctioned country is suspicious to say the least... it's like asking to do business with a Russian company.
- tlogan 2y agoGCP needs Wiz, but whether Wiz can actually save GCP is another question—probably not.
- m00dy 2y agolol, there's somethin wrong here.
- maxlin 1y agoWell, crap. Inb4 their cheap and easily hackable bulbs I have integrated to my self-written automation things go to shit. People who haven't forgotten what happened with Revolv remember.
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- pbiggar 1y agoThis is the largest transfer of Israeli intelligence operatives into a US company in history. Y'all are in for a real bad time.
- DSingularity 1y agoYeah right. https://x.com/paulbiggar/status/1902329587050148068?s=46 https://x.com/paulbiggar/status/1902329587050148068?s=46
- EternalFury 1y agoSuch a weird move. They must have too much cash because they are not buying GPUs from Jensen.
- yakkomajuri 1y agoExtracting this from my comment on a subthread to add color to the discussion here. They announced in a blog post that they went from $1m ARR to $100m ARR in 18 months (Feb 2021 -> July 2022). [1] Reuters in the article posted here reports they were at $500m ARR when they last raised in mid-2024, meaning they went from $100m to $500m in around 2 years. One would thus speculate they are likely a few hundred million above the half-a-billion figure today. The multiple still appears a little high to me (particularly given it's all-cash, which Google doesn't even have) but what do I know. [1] https://www.wiz.io/blog/100m-arr-in-18-months-wiz-becomes-the-fastest-growing-software-company-ever https://www.wiz.io/blog/100m-arr-in-18-months-wiz-becomes-th...
- twakefield 1y ago> particularly given it's all-cash, which Google doesn't even have GOOG's latest balance sheet showed $96B in cash.
- yakkomajuri 1y agoSorry. I pulled my figure from the article in the post which claims "Google had $23.47 billion in cash and cash equivalents as of Dec. 31, implying it might have to seek financing for the deal."
- elAhmo 1y agoThis feels like Waze, founder origins and name similarities aside. Google acquired them in 2013 for $1.3 billion, and it is still a standalone app, without being fully integrated into Google Maps. It makes no sense for a company to have two mapping applications, yet 15 years later, more than a billion paid, one of the most valuable companies in the world failed to integrate another app. Most people using Waze have no idea that it is owned by Google.
- Aeolun 1y ago$32B for an entity with 500M in ARR? What the blazes are they paying for?
- mocules 1y agoSounds like Google is compromised through Trump to me, by paying more ( in kickbacks) to his backers. I don't think this will help Google in any way. In fact it will probably cost it, as it may be seen as 'compromised' by other state actors. Not a good thing especially when you are discussing security on your platform.