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Statichost.eu – European static site hosting

505 points by p4bl0 12d ago

dataking 12d ago
> Not just servers in Europe. A European company, European infrastructure, and European values Needs to also run on European CPUs such as SiPearl Rhea1 :)
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idorube 12d ago
hold on there, nobody is mentioning AI here? :-D
- nosioptar 12d ago
  Since you asked... I wonder if they have some form of clanker protection. I'd hate to get hit by the filthy buggers and end up with a huge bill.
pkal 12d ago
I'm using this for my mother's website (https://www.touchofglass.eu/ https://www.touchofglass.eu/), and my only complaint is that it assumes you version a website in a Git repository. You can work around it by uploading a tarball or something like that, but it is far less convenient than using sftp/rsync. But considering that we are far into the free 10GB a month and I only have to update it very infrequently, it seemed like the best solution.
- chrisjj 12d ago
  Seriously, no WebDAV?
  - pkal 12d ago
    According to the docs no, but I did find out that they now provide a script that automates the process https://www.statichost.eu/docs/direct-upload/ https://www.statichost.eu/docs/direct-upload/.
  - 0xbadcafebee 12d ago
    WebDAV used to be a tire fire, is it not anymore? I'd probably prefer SFTP, it just works
    - greenavocado 12d ago
      I like sftpgo
  - _kidlike 12d ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10215419 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10215419 doesn't seem like a good idea
- adityamwagh 12d ago
  Wow, your mom is so cool!
  - rbarroso 12d ago
    I thought the same! :)
  - therealdrag0 12d ago
    Btw highly recommend glass workshop like this. I did one and was surprised how easy it was to make a good looking coaster with no artistic talent.
  - 2b3a51 12d ago
    "Research has shown that being creative through art projects can help promote stress relief, increase self-esteem, help connect with others, and boost intrinsic motivation. So, participating in mindful art projects can open one's mind to more positive thoughts and offer alternative solutions to life problems." And wise. Well done publishing the Web site which works without fuss in a calm way.
  - pkal 12d ago
    She is flattered :) Your comment and those of others here have "made her day", so thanks!
- datahack 12d ago
  Love your mom’s work. Wow.
- bialpio 12d ago
  Do you mind sharing what (if anything) you're using to version that website? I'm wondering what folks use instead of git nowadays.
  - sgt 12d ago
    Back in the day people used to build a website without any versioning. Just make it and upload it. Make a change, upload it again.
    - flyingshelf 12d ago
      Then people realized why that's such a bad idea
      - pkal 12d ago
        Why should it be? In my experience it depends on the case, and in my case it seems like an absolute technological overkill to version the site and have statichost regularly pull from some repository, as I update it perhaps once a year.
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        odo1242 12d ago
        I mean, versioning is basically free from a technical / storage / time spent standpoint, and my experience says that if you don’t do it you likely will lose your code at some point
        xigoi 11d ago
        I use Git for version control, but not for deployment because I don’t want to bother making a commit every time I want to fix a typo.
        notRobot 12d ago
- KellyCriterion 11d ago
  Extreeeemly capable person, your Mum! Just WOW!!!
- olivierestsage 11d ago
  Exquisite work. I love Point of Departure.
thih9 12d ago
I’m a happy OVH user, their free static hosting (part of their paid domain service) is enough for my needs. I’ve been using that platform for more than 10 years now. At the same time I like that there are more alternatives.
- ferngodfather 12d ago
  My issue with OVH is the support is God awful and half French. Someone made a complaint about my server and their default stance was to nuke me from orbit and ask questions later. Oh and their "data centers" are just shipping containers that are prone to the occasional fire. Much happier with Hetzner, even though it's more expensive.
  - Avamander 12d ago
    I've had a few complaints, few auto-detections, managed to clear it all up quite easily thankfully. However their IPv6 /128 allocation is horrendous. But I don't know anyone who does it all actually better.
    - gertop 12d ago
      They give you the full /64 even on vps or kimsufi(low end servers) it's just that the interface is configured with the ::1/128 by default in their cloud-init. Their documentation about it is not consistent though, so the confusion is understandable.
  - wiether 12d ago
    I partially agree with the first part, but: > Oh and their "data centers" are just shipping containers that are prone to the occasional fire. AFAIK they have a very limited number of DC built reusing shipping containers, most of them, including the ones built in the last ten years, are regular buildings built from scratch or repurposed. AFAIK there have been ONE instance of a DC taking fire, and it wasn't built from containers. https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/incendie-sur-un-site-ovh-a-strasbourg/ https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/incendie-sur-un-site-ovh...
chrisjj 12d ago
> 100 build minutes Er, what? A static site has no build on server.
- rrr_oh_man 12d ago
  A static site could be built from source on the server
- Hamuko 12d ago
  Many static sites are made using a static site generator, which turns input files into a static site in a build phase.
  - rixed 12d ago
    I believe the important part was "on the server".
    - elondaits 12d ago
      My static sites are built on the server (Github pages or Cloudflare Pages). They rebuild each time there are new commit on the repo, and that way I don’t need to version built artifacts. I built locally for many many years and I’m much happier with this model since the commit log is a much better reflection of what changed and there are no inconsistencies as whenever you’d commit source and built artifacts that don’t match. … It demands some extra care in terms of making sure the server can pull the dependencies and run the build scripts, but that also means my colleagues (or me in the future recovering the project from the repo) would be able to build with what was commited and nothing more… which is a requirement in my case.
Aldipower 12d ago
No /cgi-bin/ directory? I am disappointed. ;-) Greetz to Sweden!
- 0xbadcafebee 12d ago
  I would love a static hoster with nothing but CGI and versioned snapshots
tiffanyh 12d ago
OT: is Cloudflare not offering Pages anymore? I logged into CF dashboard the other day and was super confused because it appears to be replaced by Workers.
- Hamuko 12d ago
  It's under Compute → Workers & Pages because Cloudflare has a confusing UI.
  - globalnode 12d ago
    its like a retail store where they force you to walk through the chips and chocolates to get to the fruit and veg... just in case you didnt know how yummy chips and chocolates are...
  - doublepg23 12d ago
    UniFi and Cloudflare have interesting design philosophies where every time I load them up there's an entirely new experience waiting for me.
    - Hamuko 12d ago
      Just yesterday I was configuring my UniFi and being confused on where I can actually find everything in the new UI. I swear the firewall/policy UX changes every version.
- brycewray 12d ago
  From April 8, 2025: https://blog.cloudflare.com/full-stack-development-on-cloudflare-workers/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/full-stack-development-on-cloudf...
- qaz_plm 12d ago
  The legacy option still exists but they don’t make it obvious. Computer > Workers & Pages > Create Application > under “Make something new” container there’s a link “Continue to Pages”
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amelius 12d ago
Looked cool at first, but that FreeSewing logo scared me away.
- simonjgreen 12d ago
  That’s a shame, because FreeSewing is a fascinating and pretty awesome project! If you know someone in to the textile crafts, you may find this changes their world if they don’t already know of it.
palata 12d ago
Does it automatically generate a TLS certificate? I didn't find documentation about that, just that you can setup your own domain. Seems really cool!
- isodev 12d ago
  Yes, it does generate the certificate
s_dev 12d ago
Obligatory as always: https://european-alternatives.eu/categories https://european-alternatives.eu/categories
- mhitza 12d ago
  That website is no longer worth pointing out. The person running it cannot be contacted by others so the offerings and details are frozen in time.
  - Daegalus 12d ago
    is there an alternative?
    - jruohonen 12d ago
      Multiple; see, e.g., https://eualternative.eu/ https://eualternative.eu/
      - s_dev 11d ago
        Great suggestion, there is real value in these lists. Options are always good. I like the freshness transparency and that helps impart confidence going forward as it's easy to see when it was last updated but the suggested alternatives don't seem as deeply researched and subsequently there is less categories.
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sparkling 12d ago
The 9€/mo price point seems weird, considering its "just" static hosting and i can get a decently sized VPS for that money (yes, also from a EU host).
- Avamander 12d ago
  You can also get a fully-featured shared web hosting package plus email for that price. 9€/mo is wack.
- ferngodfather 12d ago
  You should see the pricing of Azure web apps lol
squarefoot 12d ago
How does it compare to neocities.org, which is sadly not EU?
- kyledrake 12d ago
  It seems to be more focused on business static hosting, which Neocities definitely is not. There's at least a dozen business static web hosting solutions out there and we're happy to share space with them. Aside from that, it's claiming to be based in Europe instead of the US and proposing that as the value proposition. We have servers all over the world, including in Europe, but we're required to be in the US for the pretty simple reason that we live here, and nobody in Europe has offered me citizenship yet (by all means!) I've explored potentially operating out of other countries when crazy internet regulations come up but in practice, crazy internet regulations is currently, unfortunately, a bi-partisan, multi-country phenomenon, and I wouldn't bank on being "based in Europe" to solve this. I also wouldn't assume that being based in Europe will prevent the US from enforcing a law on a platform either. US companies still have to adhere to European internet laws if they want to operate there. If we used cookies for anything except session login, we would need to do a cookie pop-up like most other sites do. It might help me to understand the concern if I was given a specific internet law. If your concern is age check IDing for example, how are you more concerned about the US states than the entire country of France, which is attempting to do the same thing?
  - Moru 12d ago
    The current non-US movement is more based on the emerging government type in the USA, has nothing to do with the privacy laws. There are apps you use to scan products in the store to make sure they have nothing to do with USA.
  - squarefoot 10d ago
    The main concern isn't much about privacy, we have our share of crazy laws as well, age id, etc. sadly, that's where the society is heading, but mostly because of the worries about depending on a service where someone could decide to pull the plug because of international politics, affecting users in the process.
petcat 12d ago
Europe enters the static file hosting space. Meanwhile, Europe's most promising aerospace company just left for USA. https://www.heartaerospace.com/newsroom/heart-aerospace-relocates-corporate-headquarters-to-los-angeles-california https://www.heartaerospace.com/newsroom/heart-aerospace-relo...
- simonjgreen 12d ago
  Nope, Airbus are still safely headquartered in Netherlands.
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  - retired 12d ago
    The holding framework is in The Netherlands but HQ is still in France.
- Hamuko 12d ago
  "Just" and "Published April 30, 2025" seem a bit contradictory.
a3w 12d ago
Swedish company, nice. But "European values" seems to be a non-statement. Doesn't European also possibly mean St. Petersburg, Malta, Cyprus, Istanbul, Greenland, or Switzerland? I.e. being not the same as EU hosting?
- bartekpacia 12d ago
  It’s obvious and implied that “European” here means “EU”, especially when talking about values. Low effort comment.
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- spragl 12d ago
  Greenland is not part of Europe. But they are part of "Rigsfællesskabet" (The Kingdom of Denmark). So part of Denmark but with a high degree of autonomy. Regarding "European values", I think they are just Western values but with a twist away from the US version. In my layman view, that means: Europe values citizen privacy more, US values citizen freedoms more, Europe values environment more, US values businesses more. Until recently I would have said Europe values diplomacy more, while US values military power more. But now I dont know about that.
sajithdilshan 12d ago
Doesn’t say anything about how much of storage is offered for any plan.
- letmevoteplease 12d ago
  If they stated the storage limits explicitly, people would just go right up to the edge. Better to leave it undefined and assess compliance afterward.
  - gbxbxbcbd 12d ago
    I assume no storage limits but bandwidth limits
archonis 12d ago
Looks interesting and serves a real need. However, pricing tiers seem a bit steep, especially for folks who don't need the build step to happen on the host. Also, at least according to the docs, ssh cert based authentication and password based authentication, but no support for public key based authentication?
jonplackett 12d ago
Guys. Your top menu doesn’t even fit on mobile properly. The spacing of every element on the site is different and inconsistent. Everything about this site looks cheap and unconsidered. Design is important and builds (or loses) trust. It would take you at most an hour to make this site actually look nice.
- kevin_thibedeau 12d ago
  It's the Geocities design philosophy. Worked stupendously for lingscars.
  - rrr_oh_man 12d ago
    No. Inconsiderate is NOT over-the-top-loud
- flyingshelf 12d ago
  Par for the course for EU businesses, I'm all too familiar with this. Having said that, wrapping is a totally acceptable way to display menus rather than sticking everything in a burger.
- m00dy 12d ago
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- parasti 12d ago
  I just had to go check out your site with that comment. Nicely done! Was waiting for the physics simulation to either fully settle or explode, but really neither of those happened.
  - jonplackett 11d ago
    Yeah I wouldn’t say my own site is an example of perfect design!
FabCH 12d ago
The pricing is bananas. Why on earth is the bandwidth metered? An EU tiny VPS on Scaleway with unlimited bandwidth costs 5€. This thing costs 9€. With limited bandwidth. ?!
- p-e-w 12d ago
  But it’s in the EU! Which is obviously extremely important for static hosting.
  - toyg 12d ago
    It depends what that static content is. If it advocates for BDS in universities, for example...
  - FabCH 12d ago
    So is Scaleway…
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- mtlynch 12d ago
  > An EU tiny VPS on Scaleway with unlimited bandwidth costs 5€. This thing costs 9€. With limited bandwidth. statichost.eu is a CDN,[0] not a single static host. Your VPS is the single point of failure, so if that one system goes down, your site is offline. With a VPS, you'd also have to roll your own atomic updates, which is not the hardest thing in the world, but it's also not trivial. Compare it to static hosting pricing at Netlify, Firebase Hosting, and Vercel, and it's competitive, but you should expect to pay more for a service run by a small vendor who doesn't have the economies of scale or VC money that the bigger competitors have. [0] They're an abstraction on top of Bunny, who provides the actual CDN, statichost assumes responsibility for providing the CDN regardless of underlying infrastructure.
  - flyingshelf 12d ago
    Netlify and vercel have a generous free tier, I never paid a dime. What you might eventually pay for in those services is the exceptional DX, which this amateurish service will never get close to. All this to say that 9€/month is way too expensive.
Muromec 12d ago
My hosting is rv2 in my meterkast from by cf which costs 0 eurohryvnias.
- jpoesen 12d ago
  Are you ok? I think you might be having a stroke.
  - Muromec 11d ago
    It's tough to be monolingual -- everything is so strange and scary.
    - jpoesen 10d ago
      Tout à fait.
monneyboi 12d ago
It sucks that we got to "European" being used as a main selling point.
- a34729t 12d ago
  should come with a pack of cigarettes and a copy of SAS volumes 1-7
- itsyonas 12d ago
  However, I am not sure why European mass surveillance and imperialism are supposed to be any better than those of any other country. Somehow that never gets answered on sites like that.
  - pitchlatte 12d ago
    simply put, they aren’t the big bully. they don’t have the worlds strongest army and control of the most important currency to strongarm pretty much anyone who stands in the way. i agree with your sentiment though.
    - gertop 12d ago
      None of what you say makes Europe better when it comes to the topic at hand, though? If I have to choose US or EU to host my website, the size of their army, the strength of their currency, or their history as political bullies doesn't affect my blog or nextcloud instance. What affects me is their privacy and data harvesting laws. EU is nominally better with the former, but the latter is eroding very fast and they're roughly the same.
      - codethief 11d ago
        > but the latter is eroding very fast and they're roughly the same. Citation needed. Some politicians keep on pushing for data harvesting and secret backdoors and what not but most attempts have been blocked and we're still nowhere near the level like, e.g., in the US.
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nom 12d ago
wtf is a build minute and why is it metered
- pitchlatte 12d ago
  i was also extremely confused by this
  - therouwboat 12d ago
    I tried this few weeks ago and there was no authentication on rebuild trigger, so anyone who knows your site url can start build and deploy. I don't know if things have improved since then.
g-b-r 12d ago
Before any other consideration, I love love LOVE the record-short terms. I'll bookmark it just for that.
reconnecting 12d ago
I like it. But not 100% EU. Status page sends data to Google, Doubleclick, etc (1) "In Brief: statichost.eu does not collect or share any personal information or data. " (2) Every page contains a hidden 1px pixel img that collects 15+ parameters: https://queue.simpleanalyticscdn.com/simple.gif?version=cdn_latest_11&hostname=www.statichost.eu&ua=...5&https=true&timezone=...&sri=false&path=%2Fprivacy%2F&viewport_width=...&viewport_height=...&language=en&screen_width=...&screen_height=...&unique=true&id=...&type=pageview&referrer=statichost.eu%2Fterms%2F&time= https://queue.simpleanalyticscdn.com/simple.gif?version=cdn_...... 1. https://status.statichost.eu https://status.statichost.eu 2. https://www.statichost.eu/privacy/ https://www.statichost.eu/privacy/
- goobatrooba 12d ago
  That pixel seems to just gather standard data one might want to optimise the site display. I think display port size or http/s choice is hardly personal data. Yes such info can be used to track people, but only if you have the database and means to - which a single small provider certainly doesn't. So unless you think this data is being sold for profiling I don't think that their claim is false.
  - reconnecting 12d ago
    Perhaps I read it wrong, but to me this means "does not collect ... data". In fact, the site uses a third-party service, which obviously sends the IP address. Finally, the `id` and `unique` string parameters look like something specifically designed to track people.
    - gls2ro 12d ago
      If they use https://www.simpleanalytics.com/data-collection https://www.simpleanalytics.com/data-collection then that is the list they collect. So it does not seem to collect IP. Of course it is sent to their servers but they publicly state they don't collect it.
- gls2ro 12d ago
  I think you are picking on the product by sharing a (real) critique of the marketing website. The product says "100% European static website hosting" it does not make any promise about the actual marketing website they have that will be privacy protected. So yes, you are right they used in their marketing website maybe some trackers and even so based on the link you shared here they seem to use https://www.simpleanalytics.com/ https://www.simpleanalytics.com/ which sounds okish than any other trackers and it might even be also EU hosted: "We're a three-person team based in the Netherlands, building privacy-first analytics for the web"
jeremyjh 12d ago
If you'd like an EU hosted Git Forge to back it, Codefloe offers a free built-in integration with no restriction on personal or private repositories. https://docs.codefloe.com/pages/ https://docs.codefloe.com/pages/
- selfhoster1312 12d ago
  Why would i use codefloe and not a more reputable non-profit provider like codeberg/disroot/framagit? It says it's community owned, but i only see one codefloe team member on the forums and a few people (like you). I didn't find any good community rules or pricing, any political statement about the mission, etc. The only thing i found deep in the comments is that it seems to be for people who don't want FLOSS? Also the pricing mentions mixing a non-profit and a for-profit for the best of both worlds, which as Mozilla has shown is a potentially tragic strategy. To be clear, i'm in favor of more non-profit hosts. But from reading the site i'm not convinced this one is actually for-profit, what the community stands for, and whether i'm the target audience.
  - jasonvorhe 12d ago
    Haven't used Codefloe but at least they're not restricting what projects you can host with them. I don't see any preachy neo-Luddite "don't use AI" or "no private repos pls" messaging on their site.
    - xigoi 11d ago
      Apparently, not wanting to spend a huge amount of resources on storing slop makes a free hosting service “neo-Luddite”.
  - jeremyjh 12d ago
    Codeberg does not permit personal repos, it is strictly for open source project communities. Also, it is painfully slow if you are working in a repo of any size. Codefloe is professionally hosted on a robust platform - it could probably support about 10x the volume Codeberg has currently with good performance. I have not used the other options you mentioned but I've long admired what Framasoft is doing. I'm not sure where you'd get the idea that Codefloe is for people who don't want FOSS. There are hundreds of open source repos. There are also a lot of personal projects, and probably some commercial ones as well. What they don't want, is an ideology that restricts the types of projects hosted there. Its available for all software projects. Most of their user base are just using the service - and that is really the point. Similar to how most users on Lichess are there to play chess, not to talk about hosting chess servers. They are owned by a commercial entity, devXY but they are not profit seeking. They need donations to cover costs but are willing to give that time to build up. There are some regular donors[1], but they are not yet covering all costs [2]. They publish a report every quarter where you can see usage figures. https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/reports/2026-Q2/quarterly_report.md https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/repo... They also publish detailed cost analytics and donations: [2] https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/reports/costs/cost_summary.md https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/repo... [1] https://en.liberapay.com/codefloe/ https://en.liberapay.com/codefloe/
mtlynch 12d ago
I've been looking for a new static host recently since Netlify raised prices and is terrible at preventing bot traffic. Here was my assessment of Netlify from the perspective of a small customer who just wants static hosting (and not build minutes). Pros: - Run by a single person, so customer service is responsive and comprehensive - Focused mainly on static hosting without extra complexity Cons: - Run by a single person, so increased outage risks - No support for MFA - The upload process unconditionally uploads every file rather than an rsync-like sync of only the changed files, which is a pain for my large sites that only change incrementally - Bot scraper protection is not included (they'll do it for an additional fee) - Bundles together site builds and hosting, but I only want hosting
- embedding-shape 12d ago
  So, just as a curiosity, why don't you create a $5/month VPS or something even cheaper, throw nginx/apache/caddy on there, make it fetch from a git repository once a minute or whatever, then call it a day? What does the service need to provide for it to be worth paying so much more for? This $5/month VPS can effectively handle hosting 100s of static websites for you without breaking a sweat, unless you're doing something seriously wrong.
  - mtlynch 11d ago
    I've seriously considered it, but then the VPS is my single point of failure. If there's a new nginx/apache/caddy/linux 0day that could compromise my server, I have to care about it and update. My websites typically serve 500 GB to 800 TB of bandwidth per month, and I run my businesses on static sites. It's not often that I get a big burst of visitors, but it happens a few times a year, and I wouldn't want to lose out on hundreds to thousands of dollars in sales because I was trying to save $20/mo on hosting.
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dlahoda 12d ago
...European values, and requires eu tax number, eu payment card only, eu sanctions, eu censorship, eu prices(high), and residence permit of course. Immediately blocked for half year until they think if you can have that site.
quantivaia 12d ago
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nonethewiser 12d ago
Wait, so Europeans dont want to use github pages? And would rather pay 9 euros/month?
- veqq 12d ago
  Wow, yeah. I need to start offering static hosting for like $.99 (although then micropayments become an issue...) As is, I host like 100 business' sites on my VPS and only recently surpassed 1% bandwidth.
  - toast0 12d ago
    Probably better to do $10/year thsn $1/month... Maybe have a shorter first increment for people that don't want to risk $10...
    - chanux 12d ago
      Bunny.net has a similar model and it's nice (Top up the account and minimum $1 per month). This website also has a pricing model that is a bit discouraging and quite common in my experience. Nice free tier, thanks, but the first paid tier is a bit far out of reach or not worthy. My only guess is that they are forced to do it this way to fund the free tier.
- isodev 12d ago
  For less than a cup of coffee yeah.
  - TeMPOraL 12d ago
    Problem with "less than a cup of coffee" has always been that those "cups of coffee" are usually per month, and they quickly add up. Also hardly anyone drinks $9 coffees regularly.
    - m00dy 12d ago
      you have a valid point.
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ruuda 12d ago
Their certificate is issued by Let's Encrypt ...
- exitnode 12d ago
  Why is that worth mentioning?
  - TiredOfLife 12d ago
    Certificate is not european.
  - ruuda 12d ago
    Because it looks like they are trying to appeal to people interested in European digital autonomy, but ISRG, the organization behind Let's Encrypt, is based in the US and has to comply with US sanctions.
gbxbxbcbd 12d ago
Significantly too expensive for most users. I understand that they target agencies, but most users would prefer less and pay by site instead of paying 120 EUR / year for unlimited sited Also the traffic cost is ridiculously high. Even AWS (which is often criticized for their high traffic cost) does not bill traffic below 10 TB (20 times higher) and then cost 0.1 EUR / 10 GB (10 times lower)
exitnode 12d ago
I'm hosting my static site (https://rz01.org https://rz01.org) there and am super happy with the free plan and the support I got from Eric. It's free, it's fast, it's in the EU.
- m00dy 12d ago
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  - Phelinofist 12d ago
    > we are going to back protectionism Who started this, GeNuInElY cUrIoUs
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Gooblebrai 12d ago
Out of curiosity, does a Ltd from the UK counts as EU nowadays after the brexit?
- omnimus 12d ago
  The website says European not EU. UK is without much doubt in europe.
  - flyingshelf 12d ago
    > You can register and use a .eu domain if you are an EU or EEA citizen regardless of where you live, a resident in the European Union or European Economic Area, or a business or organization established within the EU/EEA. UK is neither.
    - embedding-shape 12d ago
      The company itself is located in all of those essentially (Sweden), what seems to be located in UK is the "datacamp" thing.
- alexchamberlain 12d ago
  No? This company is based in Sweden, right? That being said, the only reference to the EU is the domain itself - everything else says European, and the UK didn't move during Brexit.
  - woadwarrior01 12d ago
    The company is Swedish, but the website is hosted by datacamp in the UK. You can see it for yourself if you run whois on their domain. https://datacamp.co.uk https://datacamp.co.uk
- flyingshelf 12d ago
  No. No EU no EEA. Hard brexit. "European continent" has nothing to do with the .eu domain, which is restricted to EU citizens and businesses.
jasonvorhe 12d ago
> No AWS, no Cloudflare, no exceptions. I'm so tired.
- fnwbr 12d ago
  and i'm so tired of the majority of the world centralizing and funneling their internet through either or both of these
  - rrr_oh_man 12d ago
    Especially if you know about the Cloudflare CIA tinfoil theory
- rrr_oh_man 12d ago
  You‘re not just tired, you’re exhausted.
  - dalmo3 12d ago
    The difference is real. And that matters.
throwfaraway135 12d ago
I don't trust anything governed by the EU government, they will censor/take down anything that's even mildly inconvenient for them.
- utopiah 12d ago
  Which government do you trust more then?
  - throwfaraway135 12d ago
    In our current age none of them.
    - utopiah 11d ago
      OK let me reformulate then, which one or ones do you distrust the least?
trizoza 12d ago
The name though, took me 5 reads to finally see "static host" there
gabrieledarrigo 12d ago
> Not just servers in Europe. A European company Come on, even the claim is sloppified! It's not this, it's that!
- Anoian 12d ago
  As an european I approve of the claim being "Its not this, its that", because for once its an actual good use of it, as many things claim to be european when in actuality they are american companies, hosting their stuff in an aws/azure european data region, so not really european at all.
rrr_oh_man 12d ago
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- embedding-shape 12d ago
  Huh, why not 100%? Both Germany and United Kingdom is in Europe, last time I checked. Bunny is located Slovenia as well, also Europe.
  - tuwtuwtuwtuw 12d ago
    Many people can't tell EU and Europe apart.
    - embedding-shape 12d ago
      There is something special about the combination of people posting something thinking it's some gotcha, then they completely misunderstood both what the thing is, and what they're trying to point out, hilarious.
      - rrr_oh_man 12d ago
        Enlighten everyone, me included, please?
        embedding-shape 12d ago
        About the differences between the EU and Europe? Didn't someone already explain the difference to you in the past or somewhere else? Look at Wikipedia otherwise.
        rrr_oh_man 11d ago
        Good job picking a fight! You’re the best!
        tuwtuwtuwtuw 11d ago
undefeated 12d ago
I can kind of see it, but hetzner costs, what, 5€/m for your own server with 10TB traffic included? How is a 4€/m markup remotely justified for what amounts to setting up an apache server and pointing a domain at it? And cutting traffic to a twentieth?
- l_h 12d ago
  Some (or maybe even most) people just want something that works, without dealing with the maintenance.
- axegon_ 12d ago
  You'd be surprised how many people pay hundreds of bucks per year for hosting wordpress sites that are completely static with 0 updates. Sites that can easily be hosted as static for free on codeberg (or github pages if you are a sociopath). The local peanut butter manufacturing facility with photos of their jars and no backend logic required type-of-sites.
- reacharavindh 12d ago
  His has been my setup for many years. A simple cheap Hetzner VPS, setup to run Caddy printing a bunch of subdomains for all my side projects. If I wanted CDN, I’d look at bunnycdn. I haven’t researched a European DNS provider yet. For now it is Cloudflare. I see the value for someone who doesn’t know or want to fuss with running their own VM in the cloud, but given the usage of LLM these days… But, one only needs a bit of education to take control into their hands.
- 0xbadcafebee 11d ago
  If motor oil for your car costs 20€, what justifies spending 40€ to have a shop change the oil for you?
  - eviks 10d ago
    Bad analogy, a shop can't write software to cheaply automate oil changes
- jimnotgym 11d ago
tgsovlerkhgsel 12d ago
I would be in the market for Europe-based static hosting and am glad that more European services are popping up, but this has one massive drawback: Unpredictable cost (unless you manually set a limit with support, then it presumably changes into unpredictable availability). With everyone moaning about AI crawlers I have no idea how far 10 or 500 GB bandwidth go nowadays, and I don't want to need to know. At all-inkl.com (no affiliation except being a happy customer) I pay something like 8 EUR to get "unlimited" bandwidth (I'm sure if my site caused a problem I'd hear about it, but I can be sure that there won't be surprise bills, and I know I don't have to worry about "background noise"), static hosting, dynamic and database (which I don't use) hosting, and 5 domains included which makes the net cost of the hosting nearly free.
- po1nt 11d ago
  I don't like the "proudly made in USA" type marketing. It should not matter if the service is good.
  - hobo123 11d ago
    I think local-first is a good heuristic in that it would avoid needless pushing of goods around the globe (or needless round-trips of lots of data around the globe). Also, some people might like it if a product or service was made in US, Switzerland, Germany, Italy etc... for purely personal reasons (feelings).
    - po1nt 11d ago
      It's the internet. We used to be proud that it's global. It used to be super cool to talk to people from other side of planet in real time.
  - tgsovlerkhgsel 11d ago
    In this case, it's less "proudly made in USA" and more "will likely remain available and legal to use for EU companies, even if the conflict between Trump and the rest of the world escalates"
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AnonC 12d ago
What exactly is “builds minutes”? I looked at the FAQ and Docs but couldn’t find what it means. Are there static sites where the build process consumes, in total, 5000 minutes (in the paid plans)? How often are these sites being updated?
- gertop 12d ago
  They support any build stack you want. You basically give them a docker compose file and you do what you want. Knowing that, it seems important to have some limits.
jonatanholmgren 12d ago
This looks like a Bunny CDN host?
tasoeur 11d ago
I’ve been using (and donating to) xmit.co that gives you all of this for free and has really good support.
- foundart 11d ago
  Is it open source? I can't find any code links.
Oh-Kay_Labs 11d ago
"European values" We know what that means.. Slavery of one sort or another(no joke).
PeterStuer 11d ago
Why is static hosting more expensive than a VPS?
esher 10d ago
Congrats on the launch. I added this to: https://www.findhost.app/statichost/ https://www.findhost.app/statichost/

505 points by p4bl0 12d ago

> Not just servers in Europe. A European company, European infrastructure, and European values Needs to also run on European CPUs such as SiPearl Rhea1 :)

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idorube 12d ago

hold on there, nobody is mentioning AI here? :-D

nosioptar 12d ago
Since you asked... I wonder if they have some form of clanker protection. I'd hate to get hit by the filthy buggers and end up with a huge bill.

pkal 12d ago

I'm using this for my mother's website (https://www.touchofglass.eu/ https://www.touchofglass.eu/), and my only complaint is that it assumes you version a website in a Git repository. You can work around it by uploading a tarball or something like that, but it is far less convenient than using sftp/rsync. But considering that we are far into the free 10GB a month and I only have to update it very infrequently, it seemed like the best solution.

chrisjj 12d ago
Seriously, no WebDAV?
- pkal 12d ago
  According to the docs no, but I did find out that they now provide a script that automates the process https://www.statichost.eu/docs/direct-upload/ https://www.statichost.eu/docs/direct-upload/.
- 0xbadcafebee 12d ago
  WebDAV used to be a tire fire, is it not anymore? I'd probably prefer SFTP, it just works
  - greenavocado 12d ago
    I like sftpgo
- _kidlike 12d ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10215419 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10215419 doesn't seem like a good idea
adityamwagh 12d ago
Wow, your mom is so cool!
- rbarroso 12d ago
  I thought the same! :)
- therealdrag0 12d ago
  Btw highly recommend glass workshop like this. I did one and was surprised how easy it was to make a good looking coaster with no artistic talent.
- 2b3a51 12d ago
  "Research has shown that being creative through art projects can help promote stress relief, increase self-esteem, help connect with others, and boost intrinsic motivation. So, participating in mindful art projects can open one's mind to more positive thoughts and offer alternative solutions to life problems." And wise. Well done publishing the Web site which works without fuss in a calm way.
- pkal 12d ago
  She is flattered :) Your comment and those of others here have "made her day", so thanks!
datahack 12d ago
Love your mom’s work. Wow.
bialpio 12d ago
Do you mind sharing what (if anything) you're using to version that website? I'm wondering what folks use instead of git nowadays.
- sgt 12d ago
  Back in the day people used to build a website without any versioning. Just make it and upload it. Make a change, upload it again.
  - flyingshelf 12d ago
    Then people realized why that's such a bad idea
    - pkal 12d ago
      Why should it be? In my experience it depends on the case, and in my case it seems like an absolute technological overkill to version the site and have statichost regularly pull from some repository, as I update it perhaps once a year.
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      - odo1242 12d ago
        I mean, versioning is basically free from a technical / storage / time spent standpoint, and my experience says that if you don’t do it you likely will lose your code at some point
        xigoi 11d ago
        I use Git for version control, but not for deployment because I don’t want to bother making a commit every time I want to fix a typo.
        notRobot 12d ago
KellyCriterion 11d ago
Extreeeemly capable person, your Mum! Just WOW!!!
olivierestsage 11d ago
Exquisite work. I love Point of Departure.

thih9 12d ago

I’m a happy OVH user, their free static hosting (part of their paid domain service) is enough for my needs. I’ve been using that platform for more than 10 years now. At the same time I like that there are more alternatives.

ferngodfather 12d ago
My issue with OVH is the support is God awful and half French. Someone made a complaint about my server and their default stance was to nuke me from orbit and ask questions later. Oh and their "data centers" are just shipping containers that are prone to the occasional fire. Much happier with Hetzner, even though it's more expensive.
- Avamander 12d ago
  I've had a few complaints, few auto-detections, managed to clear it all up quite easily thankfully. However their IPv6 /128 allocation is horrendous. But I don't know anyone who does it all actually better.
  - gertop 12d ago
    They give you the full /64 even on vps or kimsufi(low end servers) it's just that the interface is configured with the ::1/128 by default in their cloud-init. Their documentation about it is not consistent though, so the confusion is understandable.
- wiether 12d ago
  I partially agree with the first part, but: > Oh and their "data centers" are just shipping containers that are prone to the occasional fire. AFAIK they have a very limited number of DC built reusing shipping containers, most of them, including the ones built in the last ten years, are regular buildings built from scratch or repurposed. AFAIK there have been ONE instance of a DC taking fire, and it wasn't built from containers. https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/incendie-sur-un-site-ovh-a-strasbourg/ https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/incendie-sur-un-site-ovh...

chrisjj 12d ago

> 100 build minutes Er, what? A static site has no build on server.

rrr_oh_man 12d ago
A static site could be built from source on the server
Hamuko 12d ago
Many static sites are made using a static site generator, which turns input files into a static site in a build phase.
- rixed 12d ago
  I believe the important part was "on the server".
  - elondaits 12d ago
    My static sites are built on the server (Github pages or Cloudflare Pages). They rebuild each time there are new commit on the repo, and that way I don’t need to version built artifacts. I built locally for many many years and I’m much happier with this model since the commit log is a much better reflection of what changed and there are no inconsistencies as whenever you’d commit source and built artifacts that don’t match. … It demands some extra care in terms of making sure the server can pull the dependencies and run the build scripts, but that also means my colleagues (or me in the future recovering the project from the repo) would be able to build with what was commited and nothing more… which is a requirement in my case.

Aldipower 12d ago

No /cgi-bin/ directory? I am disappointed. ;-) Greetz to Sweden!

0xbadcafebee 12d ago
I would love a static hoster with nothing but CGI and versioned snapshots

tiffanyh 12d ago

OT: is Cloudflare not offering Pages anymore? I logged into CF dashboard the other day and was super confused because it appears to be replaced by Workers.

Hamuko 12d ago
It's under Compute → Workers & Pages because Cloudflare has a confusing UI.
- globalnode 12d ago
  its like a retail store where they force you to walk through the chips and chocolates to get to the fruit and veg... just in case you didnt know how yummy chips and chocolates are...
- doublepg23 12d ago
  UniFi and Cloudflare have interesting design philosophies where every time I load them up there's an entirely new experience waiting for me.
  - Hamuko 12d ago
    Just yesterday I was configuring my UniFi and being confused on where I can actually find everything in the new UI. I swear the firewall/policy UX changes every version.
brycewray 12d ago
From April 8, 2025: https://blog.cloudflare.com/full-stack-development-on-cloudflare-workers/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/full-stack-development-on-cloudf...
qaz_plm 12d ago
The legacy option still exists but they don’t make it obvious. Computer > Workers & Pages > Create Application > under “Make something new” container there’s a link “Continue to Pages”
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amelius 12d ago

Looked cool at first, but that FreeSewing logo scared me away.

simonjgreen 12d ago
That’s a shame, because FreeSewing is a fascinating and pretty awesome project! If you know someone in to the textile crafts, you may find this changes their world if they don’t already know of it.

palata 12d ago

Does it automatically generate a TLS certificate? I didn't find documentation about that, just that you can setup your own domain. Seems really cool!

isodev 12d ago
Yes, it does generate the certificate

s_dev 12d ago

Obligatory as always: https://european-alternatives.eu/categories https://european-alternatives.eu/categories

mhitza 12d ago
That website is no longer worth pointing out. The person running it cannot be contacted by others so the offerings and details are frozen in time.
- Daegalus 12d ago
  is there an alternative?
  - jruohonen 12d ago
    Multiple; see, e.g., https://eualternative.eu/ https://eualternative.eu/
    - s_dev 11d ago
      Great suggestion, there is real value in these lists. Options are always good. I like the freshness transparency and that helps impart confidence going forward as it's easy to see when it was last updated but the suggested alternatives don't seem as deeply researched and subsequently there is less categories.
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sparkling 12d ago

The 9€/mo price point seems weird, considering its "just" static hosting and i can get a decently sized VPS for that money (yes, also from a EU host).

Avamander 12d ago
You can also get a fully-featured shared web hosting package plus email for that price. 9€/mo is wack.
ferngodfather 12d ago
You should see the pricing of Azure web apps lol

squarefoot 12d ago

How does it compare to neocities.org, which is sadly not EU?

kyledrake 12d ago
It seems to be more focused on business static hosting, which Neocities definitely is not. There's at least a dozen business static web hosting solutions out there and we're happy to share space with them. Aside from that, it's claiming to be based in Europe instead of the US and proposing that as the value proposition. We have servers all over the world, including in Europe, but we're required to be in the US for the pretty simple reason that we live here, and nobody in Europe has offered me citizenship yet (by all means!) I've explored potentially operating out of other countries when crazy internet regulations come up but in practice, crazy internet regulations is currently, unfortunately, a bi-partisan, multi-country phenomenon, and I wouldn't bank on being "based in Europe" to solve this. I also wouldn't assume that being based in Europe will prevent the US from enforcing a law on a platform either. US companies still have to adhere to European internet laws if they want to operate there. If we used cookies for anything except session login, we would need to do a cookie pop-up like most other sites do. It might help me to understand the concern if I was given a specific internet law. If your concern is age check IDing for example, how are you more concerned about the US states than the entire country of France, which is attempting to do the same thing?
- Moru 12d ago
  The current non-US movement is more based on the emerging government type in the USA, has nothing to do with the privacy laws. There are apps you use to scan products in the store to make sure they have nothing to do with USA.
- squarefoot 10d ago
  The main concern isn't much about privacy, we have our share of crazy laws as well, age id, etc. sadly, that's where the society is heading, but mostly because of the worries about depending on a service where someone could decide to pull the plug because of international politics, affecting users in the process.

petcat 12d ago

Europe enters the static file hosting space. Meanwhile, Europe's most promising aerospace company just left for USA. https://www.heartaerospace.com/newsroom/heart-aerospace-relocates-corporate-headquarters-to-los-angeles-california https://www.heartaerospace.com/newsroom/heart-aerospace-relo...

simonjgreen 12d ago
Nope, Airbus are still safely headquartered in Netherlands.
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- retired 12d ago
  The holding framework is in The Netherlands but HQ is still in France.
Hamuko 12d ago
"Just" and "Published April 30, 2025" seem a bit contradictory.

a3w 12d ago

Swedish company, nice. But "European values" seems to be a non-statement. Doesn't European also possibly mean St. Petersburg, Malta, Cyprus, Istanbul, Greenland, or Switzerland? I.e. being not the same as EU hosting?

bartekpacia 12d ago
It’s obvious and implied that “European” here means “EU”, especially when talking about values. Low effort comment.
- jasonvorhe 12d ago
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spragl 12d ago
Greenland is not part of Europe. But they are part of "Rigsfællesskabet" (The Kingdom of Denmark). So part of Denmark but with a high degree of autonomy. Regarding "European values", I think they are just Western values but with a twist away from the US version. In my layman view, that means: Europe values citizen privacy more, US values citizen freedoms more, Europe values environment more, US values businesses more. Until recently I would have said Europe values diplomacy more, while US values military power more. But now I dont know about that.

sajithdilshan 12d ago

Doesn’t say anything about how much of storage is offered for any plan.

letmevoteplease 12d ago
If they stated the storage limits explicitly, people would just go right up to the edge. Better to leave it undefined and assess compliance afterward.
- gbxbxbcbd 12d ago
  I assume no storage limits but bandwidth limits

archonis 12d ago

Looks interesting and serves a real need. However, pricing tiers seem a bit steep, especially for folks who don't need the build step to happen on the host. Also, at least according to the docs, ssh cert based authentication and password based authentication, but no support for public key based authentication?

jonplackett 12d ago

Guys. Your top menu doesn’t even fit on mobile properly. The spacing of every element on the site is different and inconsistent. Everything about this site looks cheap and unconsidered. Design is important and builds (or loses) trust. It would take you at most an hour to make this site actually look nice.

kevin_thibedeau 12d ago
It's the Geocities design philosophy. Worked stupendously for lingscars.
- rrr_oh_man 12d ago
  No. Inconsiderate is NOT over-the-top-loud
flyingshelf 12d ago
Par for the course for EU businesses, I'm all too familiar with this. Having said that, wrapping is a totally acceptable way to display menus rather than sticking everything in a burger.
m00dy 12d ago
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parasti 12d ago
I just had to go check out your site with that comment. Nicely done! Was waiting for the physics simulation to either fully settle or explode, but really neither of those happened.
- jonplackett 11d ago
  Yeah I wouldn’t say my own site is an example of perfect design!

FabCH 12d ago

The pricing is bananas. Why on earth is the bandwidth metered? An EU tiny VPS on Scaleway with unlimited bandwidth costs 5€. This thing costs 9€. With limited bandwidth. ?!

p-e-w 12d ago
But it’s in the EU! Which is obviously extremely important for static hosting.
- toyg 12d ago
  It depends what that static content is. If it advocates for BDS in universities, for example...
- FabCH 12d ago
  So is Scaleway…
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mtlynch 12d ago
> An EU tiny VPS on Scaleway with unlimited bandwidth costs 5€. This thing costs 9€. With limited bandwidth. statichost.eu is a CDN,[0] not a single static host. Your VPS is the single point of failure, so if that one system goes down, your site is offline. With a VPS, you'd also have to roll your own atomic updates, which is not the hardest thing in the world, but it's also not trivial. Compare it to static hosting pricing at Netlify, Firebase Hosting, and Vercel, and it's competitive, but you should expect to pay more for a service run by a small vendor who doesn't have the economies of scale or VC money that the bigger competitors have. [0] They're an abstraction on top of Bunny, who provides the actual CDN, statichost assumes responsibility for providing the CDN regardless of underlying infrastructure.
- flyingshelf 12d ago
  Netlify and vercel have a generous free tier, I never paid a dime. What you might eventually pay for in those services is the exceptional DX, which this amateurish service will never get close to. All this to say that 9€/month is way too expensive.

Muromec 12d ago

My hosting is rv2 in my meterkast from by cf which costs 0 eurohryvnias.

jpoesen 12d ago
Are you ok? I think you might be having a stroke.
- Muromec 11d ago
  It's tough to be monolingual -- everything is so strange and scary.
  - jpoesen 10d ago
    Tout à fait.

monneyboi 12d ago

It sucks that we got to "European" being used as a main selling point.

a34729t 12d ago
should come with a pack of cigarettes and a copy of SAS volumes 1-7
itsyonas 12d ago
However, I am not sure why European mass surveillance and imperialism are supposed to be any better than those of any other country. Somehow that never gets answered on sites like that.
- pitchlatte 12d ago
  simply put, they aren’t the big bully. they don’t have the worlds strongest army and control of the most important currency to strongarm pretty much anyone who stands in the way. i agree with your sentiment though.
  - gertop 12d ago
    None of what you say makes Europe better when it comes to the topic at hand, though? If I have to choose US or EU to host my website, the size of their army, the strength of their currency, or their history as political bullies doesn't affect my blog or nextcloud instance. What affects me is their privacy and data harvesting laws. EU is nominally better with the former, but the latter is eroding very fast and they're roughly the same.
    - codethief 11d ago
      > but the latter is eroding very fast and they're roughly the same. Citation needed. Some politicians keep on pushing for data harvesting and secret backdoors and what not but most attempts have been blocked and we're still nowhere near the level like, e.g., in the US.
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nom 12d ago

wtf is a build minute and why is it metered

pitchlatte 12d ago
i was also extremely confused by this
- therouwboat 12d ago
  I tried this few weeks ago and there was no authentication on rebuild trigger, so anyone who knows your site url can start build and deploy. I don't know if things have improved since then.

g-b-r 12d ago

Before any other consideration, I love love LOVE the record-short terms. I'll bookmark it just for that.

reconnecting 12d ago

I like it. But not 100% EU. Status page sends data to Google, Doubleclick, etc (1) "In Brief: statichost.eu does not collect or share any personal information or data. " (2) Every page contains a hidden 1px pixel img that collects 15+ parameters: https://queue.simpleanalyticscdn.com/simple.gif?version=cdn_latest_11&hostname=www.statichost.eu&ua=...5&https=true&timezone=...&sri=false&path=%2Fprivacy%2F&viewport_width=...&viewport_height=...&language=en&screen_width=...&screen_height=...&unique=true&id=...&type=pageview&referrer=statichost.eu%2Fterms%2F&time= https://queue.simpleanalyticscdn.com/simple.gif?version=cdn_...... 1. https://status.statichost.eu https://status.statichost.eu 2. https://www.statichost.eu/privacy/ https://www.statichost.eu/privacy/

goobatrooba 12d ago
That pixel seems to just gather standard data one might want to optimise the site display. I think display port size or http/s choice is hardly personal data. Yes such info can be used to track people, but only if you have the database and means to - which a single small provider certainly doesn't. So unless you think this data is being sold for profiling I don't think that their claim is false.
- reconnecting 12d ago
  Perhaps I read it wrong, but to me this means "does not collect ... data". In fact, the site uses a third-party service, which obviously sends the IP address. Finally, the `id` and `unique` string parameters look like something specifically designed to track people.
  - gls2ro 12d ago
    If they use https://www.simpleanalytics.com/data-collection https://www.simpleanalytics.com/data-collection then that is the list they collect. So it does not seem to collect IP. Of course it is sent to their servers but they publicly state they don't collect it.
gls2ro 12d ago
I think you are picking on the product by sharing a (real) critique of the marketing website. The product says "100% European static website hosting" it does not make any promise about the actual marketing website they have that will be privacy protected. So yes, you are right they used in their marketing website maybe some trackers and even so based on the link you shared here they seem to use https://www.simpleanalytics.com/ https://www.simpleanalytics.com/ which sounds okish than any other trackers and it might even be also EU hosted: "We're a three-person team based in the Netherlands, building privacy-first analytics for the web"

jeremyjh 12d ago

If you'd like an EU hosted Git Forge to back it, Codefloe offers a free built-in integration with no restriction on personal or private repositories. https://docs.codefloe.com/pages/ https://docs.codefloe.com/pages/

selfhoster1312 12d ago
Why would i use codefloe and not a more reputable non-profit provider like codeberg/disroot/framagit? It says it's community owned, but i only see one codefloe team member on the forums and a few people (like you). I didn't find any good community rules or pricing, any political statement about the mission, etc. The only thing i found deep in the comments is that it seems to be for people who don't want FLOSS? Also the pricing mentions mixing a non-profit and a for-profit for the best of both worlds, which as Mozilla has shown is a potentially tragic strategy. To be clear, i'm in favor of more non-profit hosts. But from reading the site i'm not convinced this one is actually for-profit, what the community stands for, and whether i'm the target audience.
- jasonvorhe 12d ago
  Haven't used Codefloe but at least they're not restricting what projects you can host with them. I don't see any preachy neo-Luddite "don't use AI" or "no private repos pls" messaging on their site.
  - xigoi 11d ago
    Apparently, not wanting to spend a huge amount of resources on storing slop makes a free hosting service “neo-Luddite”.
- jeremyjh 12d ago
  Codeberg does not permit personal repos, it is strictly for open source project communities. Also, it is painfully slow if you are working in a repo of any size. Codefloe is professionally hosted on a robust platform - it could probably support about 10x the volume Codeberg has currently with good performance. I have not used the other options you mentioned but I've long admired what Framasoft is doing. I'm not sure where you'd get the idea that Codefloe is for people who don't want FOSS. There are hundreds of open source repos. There are also a lot of personal projects, and probably some commercial ones as well. What they don't want, is an ideology that restricts the types of projects hosted there. Its available for all software projects. Most of their user base are just using the service - and that is really the point. Similar to how most users on Lichess are there to play chess, not to talk about hosting chess servers. They are owned by a commercial entity, devXY but they are not profit seeking. They need donations to cover costs but are willing to give that time to build up. There are some regular donors[1], but they are not yet covering all costs [2]. They publish a report every quarter where you can see usage figures. https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/reports/2026-Q2/quarterly_report.md https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/repo... They also publish detailed cost analytics and donations: [2] https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/reports/costs/cost_summary.md https://codefloe.com/codefloe/analytics/src/branch/main/repo... [1] https://en.liberapay.com/codefloe/ https://en.liberapay.com/codefloe/

mtlynch 12d ago

I've been looking for a new static host recently since Netlify raised prices and is terrible at preventing bot traffic. Here was my assessment of Netlify from the perspective of a small customer who just wants static hosting (and not build minutes). Pros: - Run by a single person, so customer service is responsive and comprehensive - Focused mainly on static hosting without extra complexity Cons: - Run by a single person, so increased outage risks - No support for MFA - The upload process unconditionally uploads every file rather than an rsync-like sync of only the changed files, which is a pain for my large sites that only change incrementally - Bot scraper protection is not included (they'll do it for an additional fee) - Bundles together site builds and hosting, but I only want hosting

embedding-shape 12d ago
So, just as a curiosity, why don't you create a $5/month VPS or something even cheaper, throw nginx/apache/caddy on there, make it fetch from a git repository once a minute or whatever, then call it a day? What does the service need to provide for it to be worth paying so much more for? This $5/month VPS can effectively handle hosting 100s of static websites for you without breaking a sweat, unless you're doing something seriously wrong.
- mtlynch 11d ago
  I've seriously considered it, but then the VPS is my single point of failure. If there's a new nginx/apache/caddy/linux 0day that could compromise my server, I have to care about it and update. My websites typically serve 500 GB to 800 TB of bandwidth per month, and I run my businesses on static sites. It's not often that I get a big burst of visitors, but it happens a few times a year, and I wouldn't want to lose out on hundreds to thousands of dollars in sales because I was trying to save $20/mo on hosting.
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dlahoda 12d ago

...European values, and requires eu tax number, eu payment card only, eu sanctions, eu censorship, eu prices(high), and residence permit of course. Immediately blocked for half year until they think if you can have that site.

quantivaia 12d ago

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nonethewiser 12d ago

Wait, so Europeans dont want to use github pages? And would rather pay 9 euros/month?

veqq 12d ago
Wow, yeah. I need to start offering static hosting for like $.99 (although then micropayments become an issue...) As is, I host like 100 business' sites on my VPS and only recently surpassed 1% bandwidth.
- toast0 12d ago
  Probably better to do $10/year thsn $1/month... Maybe have a shorter first increment for people that don't want to risk $10...
  - chanux 12d ago
    Bunny.net has a similar model and it's nice (Top up the account and minimum $1 per month). This website also has a pricing model that is a bit discouraging and quite common in my experience. Nice free tier, thanks, but the first paid tier is a bit far out of reach or not worthy. My only guess is that they are forced to do it this way to fund the free tier.
isodev 12d ago
For less than a cup of coffee yeah.
- TeMPOraL 12d ago
  Problem with "less than a cup of coffee" has always been that those "cups of coffee" are usually per month, and they quickly add up. Also hardly anyone drinks $9 coffees regularly.
  - m00dy 12d ago
    you have a valid point.

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ruuda 12d ago

Their certificate is issued by Let's Encrypt ...

exitnode 12d ago
Why is that worth mentioning?
- TiredOfLife 12d ago
  Certificate is not european.
- ruuda 12d ago
  Because it looks like they are trying to appeal to people interested in European digital autonomy, but ISRG, the organization behind Let's Encrypt, is based in the US and has to comply with US sanctions.

gbxbxbcbd 12d ago

Significantly too expensive for most users. I understand that they target agencies, but most users would prefer less and pay by site instead of paying 120 EUR / year for unlimited sited Also the traffic cost is ridiculously high. Even AWS (which is often criticized for their high traffic cost) does not bill traffic below 10 TB (20 times higher) and then cost 0.1 EUR / 10 GB (10 times lower)

exitnode 12d ago

I'm hosting my static site (https://rz01.org https://rz01.org) there and am super happy with the free plan and the support I got from Eric. It's free, it's fast, it's in the EU.

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- Phelinofist 12d ago
  > we are going to back protectionism Who started this, GeNuInElY cUrIoUs

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Gooblebrai 12d ago

Out of curiosity, does a Ltd from the UK counts as EU nowadays after the brexit?

omnimus 12d ago
The website says European not EU. UK is without much doubt in europe.
- flyingshelf 12d ago
  > You can register and use a .eu domain if you are an EU or EEA citizen regardless of where you live, a resident in the European Union or European Economic Area, or a business or organization established within the EU/EEA. UK is neither.
  - embedding-shape 12d ago
    The company itself is located in all of those essentially (Sweden), what seems to be located in UK is the "datacamp" thing.
alexchamberlain 12d ago
No? This company is based in Sweden, right? That being said, the only reference to the EU is the domain itself - everything else says European, and the UK didn't move during Brexit.
- woadwarrior01 12d ago
  The company is Swedish, but the website is hosted by datacamp in the UK. You can see it for yourself if you run whois on their domain. https://datacamp.co.uk https://datacamp.co.uk
flyingshelf 12d ago
No. No EU no EEA. Hard brexit. "European continent" has nothing to do with the .eu domain, which is restricted to EU citizens and businesses.

jasonvorhe 12d ago

> No AWS, no Cloudflare, no exceptions. I'm so tired.

fnwbr 12d ago
and i'm so tired of the majority of the world centralizing and funneling their internet through either or both of these
- rrr_oh_man 12d ago
  Especially if you know about the Cloudflare CIA tinfoil theory
rrr_oh_man 12d ago
You‘re not just tired, you’re exhausted.
- dalmo3 12d ago
  The difference is real. And that matters.

throwfaraway135 12d ago

I don't trust anything governed by the EU government, they will censor/take down anything that's even mildly inconvenient for them.

utopiah 12d ago
Which government do you trust more then?
- throwfaraway135 12d ago
  In our current age none of them.
  - utopiah 11d ago
    OK let me reformulate then, which one or ones do you distrust the least?

trizoza 12d ago

The name though, took me 5 reads to finally see "static host" there

gabrieledarrigo 12d ago

> Not just servers in Europe. A European company Come on, even the claim is sloppified! It's not this, it's that!

Anoian 12d ago
As an european I approve of the claim being "Its not this, its that", because for once its an actual good use of it, as many things claim to be european when in actuality they are american companies, hosting their stuff in an aws/azure european data region, so not really european at all.

rrr_oh_man 12d ago

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embedding-shape 12d ago
Huh, why not 100%? Both Germany and United Kingdom is in Europe, last time I checked. Bunny is located Slovenia as well, also Europe.
- tuwtuwtuwtuw 12d ago
  Many people can't tell EU and Europe apart.
  - embedding-shape 12d ago
    There is something special about the combination of people posting something thinking it's some gotcha, then they completely misunderstood both what the thing is, and what they're trying to point out, hilarious.
    - rrr_oh_man 12d ago
      Enlighten everyone, me included, please?
      - embedding-shape 12d ago
        About the differences between the EU and Europe? Didn't someone already explain the difference to you in the past or somewhere else? Look at Wikipedia otherwise.
        rrr_oh_man 11d ago
        Good job picking a fight! You’re the best!
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undefeated 12d ago

I can kind of see it, but hetzner costs, what, 5€/m for your own server with 10TB traffic included? How is a 4€/m markup remotely justified for what amounts to setting up an apache server and pointing a domain at it? And cutting traffic to a twentieth?

l_h 12d ago
Some (or maybe even most) people just want something that works, without dealing with the maintenance.
axegon_ 12d ago
You'd be surprised how many people pay hundreds of bucks per year for hosting wordpress sites that are completely static with 0 updates. Sites that can easily be hosted as static for free on codeberg (or github pages if you are a sociopath). The local peanut butter manufacturing facility with photos of their jars and no backend logic required type-of-sites.
reacharavindh 12d ago
His has been my setup for many years. A simple cheap Hetzner VPS, setup to run Caddy printing a bunch of subdomains for all my side projects. If I wanted CDN, I’d look at bunnycdn. I haven’t researched a European DNS provider yet. For now it is Cloudflare. I see the value for someone who doesn’t know or want to fuss with running their own VM in the cloud, but given the usage of LLM these days… But, one only needs a bit of education to take control into their hands.
0xbadcafebee 11d ago
If motor oil for your car costs 20€, what justifies spending 40€ to have a shop change the oil for you?
- eviks 10d ago
  Bad analogy, a shop can't write software to cheaply automate oil changes
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tgsovlerkhgsel 12d ago

I would be in the market for Europe-based static hosting and am glad that more European services are popping up, but this has one massive drawback: Unpredictable cost (unless you manually set a limit with support, then it presumably changes into unpredictable availability). With everyone moaning about AI crawlers I have no idea how far 10 or 500 GB bandwidth go nowadays, and I don't want to need to know. At all-inkl.com (no affiliation except being a happy customer) I pay something like 8 EUR to get "unlimited" bandwidth (I'm sure if my site caused a problem I'd hear about it, but I can be sure that there won't be surprise bills, and I know I don't have to worry about "background noise"), static hosting, dynamic and database (which I don't use) hosting, and 5 domains included which makes the net cost of the hosting nearly free.

po1nt 11d ago
I don't like the "proudly made in USA" type marketing. It should not matter if the service is good.
- hobo123 11d ago
  I think local-first is a good heuristic in that it would avoid needless pushing of goods around the globe (or needless round-trips of lots of data around the globe). Also, some people might like it if a product or service was made in US, Switzerland, Germany, Italy etc... for purely personal reasons (feelings).
  - po1nt 11d ago
    It's the internet. We used to be proud that it's global. It used to be super cool to talk to people from other side of planet in real time.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 11d ago
  In this case, it's less "proudly made in USA" and more "will likely remain available and legal to use for EU companies, even if the conflict between Trump and the rest of the world escalates"

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AnonC 12d ago

What exactly is “builds minutes”? I looked at the FAQ and Docs but couldn’t find what it means. Are there static sites where the build process consumes, in total, 5000 minutes (in the paid plans)? How often are these sites being updated?

gertop 12d ago
They support any build stack you want. You basically give them a docker compose file and you do what you want. Knowing that, it seems important to have some limits.

jonatanholmgren 12d ago

This looks like a Bunny CDN host?

tasoeur 11d ago

I’ve been using (and donating to) xmit.co that gives you all of this for free and has really good support.

foundart 11d ago
Is it open source? I can't find any code links.

Oh-Kay_Labs 11d ago

"European values" We know what that means.. Slavery of one sort or another(no joke).

PeterStuer 11d ago

Why is static hosting more expensive than a VPS?

esher 10d ago

Congrats on the launch. I added this to: https://www.findhost.app/statichost/ https://www.findhost.app/statichost/