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Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline
- josteink 12y agoNew URL: https://thepiratebay.cr/ https://thepiratebay.cr/ A .ac mirror should to be coming up. We'll see if this has the desired effect or is just another whack-a-mole effort.
- mrkickling 12y agoCould anyone care to explain how this works?
- nodata 12y agoProxies to mirrors.
- sauere 12y agoA while ago someone from TPB guys explained their setup. Their web-facing webservers connect to the actual backends via a VPN that does some fancy routing to hide the real location. On top of that, they have a ton of mirrors and proxies running.
- eloisant 12y agoIt doesn't actually. That's a proxy, not a mirror; designed to make TPB available from countries where it's blocked. Try a search, it won't work. https://proxybay.info/ https://proxybay.info/ However, there's a script where you could download the whole TPB, it's only 90 Mb. That's possible because now they're using only magnet links, so a torrent is pretty much just a URL. http://torrentfreak.com/download-a-copy-of-the-pirate-bay-its-only-90-mb-120209/ http://torrentfreak.com/download-a-copy-of-the-pirate-bay-it... So if someone have a recent copy, it would be easy to setup a mirror. Or people could just use one of the dozen torrent site still up and let the whack-a-mole game continue.
- 300bps 12y agoIt's called Whack-a-mole. Anyone waiting for Pirate Bay to inevitably come back up can use: http://www.torrentz.eu http://www.torrentz.eu http://www.kickass.to http://www.kickass.to etc, etc.
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- mrkickling 12y agoWill be interesting to see if this will influence the Swedish parliament reelection in march.
- eli 12y agoIs Pirate Bay & file sharing really that big an issue among the general public in Sweden?
- colechristensen 12y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_of_Sweden#Political_impact http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_of_Sweden#Politica...
- Joona 12y agoI believe around the founding of the Swedish Pirate Party, they got a lot of attention (and votes) because of TPB being featured heavily in the news. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_of_Sweden#2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_of_Sweden#2009
- johansch 12y agoNo, not really. The somewhat associated Pirate Party used to be a big thing here, but then the party was hijacked by a new leader who mostly seemed to care about LGBT issues. Said leader just resigned last week, and the Swedish Pirate Party is now in a reboot phase.
- wyager 12y agoHonestly, I think the pirate bay getting busted would be a good thing, as it would probably lead to the creation of more distributed, robust filesharing platforms. The actual bulk data distribution is already quite P2P; the only remaining centralized part is the part that distributes the magnet hashes.
- Joona 12y agoI'm pretty sure you can actually download the magnet links as an archive, which shouldn't be too big either.
- toomuchtodo 12y agoCould the magnet links be served as a torrent?
- Joona 12y ago(If I understand your question correctly,) sure, but it would instantly be outdated, because you can't include the torrent you just created.
- forgotpasswd3x 12y agoPossible a magnet to the magnet bundle?
- aaren 12y agoyes, but because the magnet link is a hash of the content it is only ever a snapshot of the magnet bundle.
- toomuchtodo 12y agoSo version the magnet link (similar to git) and always serve the latest magnet link via a DNS TXT record.
- happyscrappy 12y agoI thought file sharing was recognized as a religion in Sweden.
- mrkickling 12y agoYes it is, kopimism is a recognized religion. But it is a minority religion treated quite badly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary_Church_of_Kopimism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary_Church_of_Kopimism
- happyscrappy 12y agoThey should file with the UN for religious persecution.
- Raphael 12y agoI'm not familiar with Swedish law, but assuming it's similar to the USA, then it would be pertinent to know if The Pirate Bay is registered as a church or as a company.
- Jhsto 12y agoThe religion was not found by TPB, but rather its users.
- thisjepisje 12y agoWhy would that even matter?
- sandstrom 12y agoI think it used to be a bigger thing before Spotify and other streaming-services came along. These days I don't know a single friend who download music (either illegally or legally), Spotify is so convenient.
- drpfenderson 12y agoSo....what happened to the "raid-proof" server array they were talking about in September? (https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-runs-on-21-raid-proof-virtual-machines-140921/ https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-runs-on-21-raid-proo...)
- nols 12y agoThe site's still up, just has a different URL. https://thepiratebay.cr/ https://thepiratebay.cr/
- sarciszewski 12y agoSlow, 500 errors everywhere, and doesn't seem to have the blog. Are we sure this mirror is legit?
- eloisant 12y agoNot a mirror, a proxy. It doesn't work when the main site is down.
- eli 12y agoDespite the headline, what that article describes isn't "raid proof." Instead it describes a system that can be recreated at a new hosting provider even if the current accounts are terminated or hardware confiscated. A disaster recovery plan.
- tlrobinson 12y agoI'm imagining a Daemon (as in the Daniel Suarez book) like system that gets paid by web advertising companies in Bitcoin, and automatically spawns it's servers on cloud providers who accept payment in Bitcoin. One or more hot backups on a single VM would silently wait for the live system to go down, then respawn itself and switch over the DNS. Namecoin could be used in place of, or augmenting, traditional domain names. The only really tricky bit is "raid-proofing" secrets (Bitcoin/Namecoin private keys, DNS credentials), but Amazon and presumably other cloud providers are starting to offer HSMs. Or perhaps some combination of Shamir's Secret Sharing and multisig wallets + voting pools.
- Lward 12y agoHad this been happening before? I've been searching the sites about it and I found out that TPB will be back up soon but they don't know exactly when it will happen.
- Lward 12y agoYes, they can't prove anything.
- Lward 12y agoI scouted some sites and found out that TPB will be backup soon and they also say that it had happened before. Ttuely I hope the best
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- crypto235 12y agoGood to hear that, I hope this police issue will be resolved soon.
- mrkickling 12y agoThe organisation that reported Thepiratebay and therefore is the reason for this raid is called Rättighetsalliansen (The Alliance of Rights). The Alliance of Rights is the same organisation as The Anti Pirate Bureau but with a new name. This is what they say on their website (roughly translated): "The police raided The Pirate Bay today inside an Internet company in the Stockholm region. Rättighetsalliansen is behind the report against The Pirate Bay. - Pirate Bay is an illegal commercial service that makes great sums of money by putting up other peoples movies and music on their site. The producers wont get payed for their work and the legal services growth gets prevented, says Henrik Pontén, lawyer at Rättighetsalliansen." In other words they don't now what they are talking about. Thepiratebay is not putting up any files on thepiratebay.org, the users are (of course nothing is even uploaded, only seeded from user to user). I can recommend the documentary about The piratebay, TPB AFK where you will meet Henrik Pontén from the Anti Piracy Bureau among others. Rättighetsalliansens website and article about this: http://rattighetsalliansen.se/nyhet/118 http://rattighetsalliansen.se/nyhet/118 EDIT: I think their website crashed.
- wvenable 12y agoThe piratebay hosts no content and even the torrent files themselves are all served from other users. That's the technical side whether that has any legal bearing is a different question.
- agumonkey 12y agoSo being an illegal content link index (categorized magnet URI lists) is not illegal ? honest question. Isn't that why Google was forced to unlist torrents from results, otherwise they'd be in the same position as TPB.
- belandrew 12y agoIt can be considered contributory copyright infringement if you're knowingly linking to copyright infringing material. In the US, abiding by any DMCA takedown notices is enough to be fairly certain you are not going to be in trouble for contributory infringement. That's how Google covers itself.
- runn1ng 12y agoThe last uploaded torrent, from what can I tell (from what Google indexed) http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:v346Sjm9naMJ:thepiratebay.se/torrent/11671306/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&strip=1 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:v346Sjm... State.of.Affairs.S01E04.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION magnet link: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9d12bfa80f937b7fbed3601ebda9d725d483a2de&dn=State.of.Affairs.S01E04.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337
- apetresc 12y agoI'm sure TPB gets torrents added faster than Google caches.
- throwvpn 12y agoI noticed weird behavior on multiple VPNs lately (those that should protect torrent users using OpenVPN) as the IPs given by VPN provider upon connecting were suddenly located in the US (Massachusetts) instead of Sweden, Finland etc. where you intended to connect. Always check the location of the IP address you get to be sure you aren't MitM-ed...
- gcb0 12y agovpn for anonymity? are you making a joke that i didn't understood?
- sz4kerto 12y agoThat's probably not the RAID level they planned to use to ensure maximum availability.
- jason_slack 12y agoI dont know a lot about the organizational structure anymore, but having just watched "TPB: AFK" I assume that Peter Sunde isn't involved? I think Gottfrid and Fredrik are still in prison?
- cpach 12y agoCorrect.
- arenaninja 12y agoFunnily enough, for the past year I've been using TPB pretty much for finding very specific versions of Linux distros
- eyeareque 12y agoDo they come with very specific pieces of malware too? kidding aside, I hope you check the ISO checksums.
- bigphishy 12y agoI would hope most linux users knows how to use checksum.
- arenaninja 12y agoAt the height of my paranoia I installed and used an md5 checker for Windows 7, yes.
- lectrick 12y agoWhich is a perfectly legitimate use of their debatably legitimate search engine
- andor 12y agoHere's a statement from Peter Sunde: http://blog.brokep.com/2014/12/09/the-pirate-bay-down-forever/ http://blog.brokep.com/2014/12/09/the-pirate-bay-down-foreve... Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8726110 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8726110
- gargantian 12y agoIn an internet-ubiquitous world, the idea of restricting the flow of data -- any data -- is basically a magical fantasy of those who understand neither the technology nor its sociology. The Pirate Bay will be back in a day or two tops. I wonder how much longer people will keep trying to put the information genie back in the bottle?
- Thimothy 12y agoEver heard about Demonoid?
- Umn55 12y ago" is basically a magical fantasy of those who understand neither the technology nor its sociology." Ever hear of steam, MMO's, F2P? They've started with backend chaining of software, they are going to try to turn everything into "cloud based" bullshit to as much as they can do it.
- jason_slack 12y agoDoes anyone have any good technical info on the hardware/software architecture for TPB? When I watched "TPB: AFK" it looked lean, just a handful of 1u servers and only one of them public facing/entry point.
- yc1010 12y agoeztv.it is down too (imho much more useful than tpb) interestingly enough seems they used cloudflare.
- Thimothy 12y agoMany filesharing and streaming services are down in Spain, too. Seems it's an european scale raid.