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Cursor 1.0

613 points by ecz 1y ago

benoittravers 1y ago
These just look like small updates. Doesn’t warrant a full version upgrade.
- reubenmorais 1y ago
  1.0 is not an upgrade, it's the first stable release. Usually it signifies the arrival of some amount of feature completeness and stability compared to the fast paced 0.x days. Of course semver doesn't really fit neatly most software let alone a user facing GUI application, but socially that's what they're trying to communicate with the 1.0.
  - pzo 1y ago
    These days those versioning is just PR and doesn't mean much like if something is stable. Gmail used to have beta mark for how many years but was still used. Rect native is 0.79 but doesn't mean it's not production ready.
mistercheph 1y ago
Closed source, don’t care
- artursapek 1y ago
  based
helloplanets 1y ago
Is there a good chart somewhere, to compare all the current AI coding CLIs / IDEs / extensions with one another?
- trashymctrash 1y ago
  this maybe? https://liveswebench.ai/ https://liveswebench.ai/
  - tptacek 1y ago
    I don't think you really want to boil this down to a number; there's a whole lot of feature and workflow differences to capture: * BYO model or not * CLI, UI, VSC-plugin or web * async/sync * MCP support * context size * indexed or live grep-style search There's probably like 10 more.
  - wiradikusuma 1y ago
    Never heard SWE-agent until now, and seems to beat Aider (the tool I use) consistently. Does anyone know if it's GitHub-only or can it be used as a CLI (i.e., Aider replacement)?
    - mdaniel 1y ago
      Heh, the irony doesn't escape me https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/tree/v1.1.0/.cursor/rules https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/tree/v1.1.0/.cursor/r... Anyway https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/blob/v1.1.0/docs/usage/cli.md https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/blob/v1.1.0/docs/usag... and https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/blob/v1.1.0/docs/config/tools.md https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/blob/v1.1.0/docs/conf...
  - EgoIncarnate 1y ago
    I don't think it's being kept up to date. I believe for the IDEs, it requires manual testing to get the numbers. Since things change so quickly, it's mostly just a historical artifact. Hopefully some future version is automated.
swyx 1y ago
this is remarkably lowkey for a 1.0 of a big product. where is the splashy overproduced video? where is the promises of agi? where is the "we are just getting started" / "we cant wait to see what you'll build"? how do i know what to think if you aren't going to tell me what to think? edit: oh haha https://x.com/cursor_ai/status/1930358111677886677 https://x.com/cursor_ai/status/1930358111677886677
- mntruell 1y ago
  We tried to make the video lowkey-ish! Appreciate any feedback if came off differently.
  - swyx 1y ago
    it was lighthearted sarcasm. congrats Michael, huge milestone
asar 1y ago
Cursor recently lost me as a customer. Too many updates that disturb my workflow and productivity, no easy way to roll back versions, super sparse changelogs, lots of magic in context building, really untransparent pricing on max mode. I recently made the switch to Claude Code on the Max plan and I couldn't be happier. The only real thing I'm missing is the diff view across files, but I assume it's just a matter of time until that's properly implemented in Zed or VSCode.
- 1ucky 1y ago
  Since last week it’s possible to use Claude Code in the VSCode terminal where it now automatically installs a plugin to display the diffs.
  - asar 1y ago
    thanks! i never set this up properly. did it now though, really cool!
- lopatin 1y ago
  I feel unstoppable with Claude Code Max. I never thought I'd pay $200 per month for any developer tool, yet here we are, and I also couldn't be happier with it.
  - deadbabe 1y ago
    Would you pay $400?
    - esafak 1y ago
      Don't give people ideas.
      - deadbabe 1y ago
        Other professions pay a lot for their tools, and developers are loaded with cash.
philip1209 1y ago
There has to be some kind of joke in here about how long it takes people to declare a 1.0 release. "1 million ARR? Not yet. 10 million ARR? Not yet. 300 million ARR? Maybe soon."
- esafak 1y ago
  "A million dollars isn't cool. You know what's cool? A billion."
jadbox 1y ago
VSCode with extensions Copilot [autocomplete] + CLINE [AI chat] + FOAM [obsidian-esk markdown support] is goat. There's no way a closed-source alternative to going to compete with this.
- barbazoo 1y ago
  FOAM?
  - steveklabnik 1y ago
    https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=foam.foam-vscode https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=foam.foa...
  - Redster 1y ago
    https://github.com/foambubble/foam https://github.com/foambubble/foam
- kurtis_reed 1y ago
  What does "is goat" mean?
  - bluetidepro 1y ago
    Goat is slang for “(the) greatest of all time.”
    - kshacker 1y ago
      I was today years old minus maybe a few months when I learned this, and I had seen it referenced so many times.
      - bluetidepro 1y ago
        Some interesting reading about the term: https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2018/09/07/tom-brady-goat-dictionary/ https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2018/09/0...
BudaDude 1y ago
I love Cursor, but it feels like a ticking time bomb with extensions not being updated at the same rate as VSCode. Also another issue I am starting to see is the lack of shared MCP servers. If I have VSCode, Cursor, and Claude open, each one is running its own instance of the MCP server. You can imagine that with a dozen or so MCP's, the memory footprint becomes quite large for no reason.
- TranquilMarmot 1y ago
  What are you using MCP for? We recently launched Zapier MCP, we host the servers for you: https://zapier.com/mcp https://zapier.com/mcp
- tevlon 1y ago
  That's why i use Docker MCP Catalog. One MCP Server to rule them all. more info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I2L4U7Xq6g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I2L4U7Xq6g
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  - greymalik 1y ago
    Here’s an alternate link if you prefer to read text instead of watching a 6 minute video: https://docs.docker.com/ai/mcp-catalog-and-toolkit/catalog/ https://docs.docker.com/ai/mcp-catalog-and-toolkit/catalog/
  - xyc 1y ago
    I recently discovered toolhive which is pretty handy too https://github.com/stacklok/toolhive https://github.com/stacklok/toolhive
  - manorek 1y ago
    I don't understand. Is this meant to run locally? Because I tried to deploy my agent using GitHub MCP server to K8s. I can't ask my agent to run docker command in a pod.
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ukblewis 1y ago
I can’t be the only one for which the Python support in Cursor has been absolutely garbage the past week. I’m super disappointed with Cursor. I wanted to love it
- hobo_mark 1y ago
  I uninstalled Cursor months ago because of that and am always surprised nobody else brings that up, ever.
hollowturtle 1y ago
I keep getting back and forth between Cursor and Zed, but Cursor autocomplete and next cursor prediction are still the best in class between all the competitors, I don't use chats and agents, yet I feel very productive and fast. I sometimes go back to Copilot too just to see how is it going but it has been very delusional so far regarding code suggestions. The only thing I hate about Cursor is the overwrite of some of the shortcuts of vscode, I remapped some and learned some new, and that vim mode plugin is a bit buggy. This and the fact that performance compared with Zed is shit and that's why I go back to Zed sometimes, I'm pondering the idea of just using both and keep them both open
- Glyptodon 1y ago
  I think not using agent chat is kind of a missing forest for the trees sort of thing. That said, I do continue to think that agents are in this weird zone where it's more natural to want to interact through ticketing layer, but you kind of want to editor layer for the final 5%.
  - hollowturtle 1y ago
    Missing forest by chatting about a problem? I keep going back to agents from time to time, never worked for me, and I already spend a lot of time understanding boss tickets(via extra meetings and feedback loops) I don't want explain again down the line, my strong opinion is that I'm paid for doing real work augmented by AI, not assigning "tickets" to the AI
- RollingRo11 1y ago
  > I'm pondering the idea of just using both and keep them both open Do it. I've started editing with Zed and just keeping Cursor/Intellij open on the side. (Cursor b/c of the the free student plan, Intellij for school assignments). I feel spoiled by the performance, especially on promotion displays. I've started noticing some dropped frames in Cursor and measured an avg of 45-60 fps in Intellij (which is somewhat expected for such a huge IDE). I basically exclusively write in Zed, and do everything else in their respective apps.
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theappsecguy 1y ago
Cursor had been atrocious. Building on top of an already crappy IDE, you’d hope that they are at least keeping up with VSCode improvements and updates. But they are far behind and instead keep slapping on more garbage. The agent stuff is largely useless. The tab prediction go nuts every few seconds completely disrupting flow.
- girvo 1y ago
  > The tab prediction go nuts every few seconds completely disrupting flow. This is my main gripe with it, too. It's still been semi-useful at least for some analysis and examination of our code-base, but editing and autocomplete I've not found super useful yet.
- Aeolun 1y ago
  Huh, I have the opposite experience. The only tab complete worth anything is in Cursor.
  - Glyptodon 1y ago
    I agree it has good completes, but it also hallucinates completes for blank lines or in the middle of typing a one word change and that can be irritating. Still better than plain VS code autocomplete though.
punkpeye 1y ago
Exciting! Particularly the emphasis on smoother MCP integrations. Will be adding the Add to cursor button to Glama later today today. https://glama.ai/mcp/servers https://glama.ai/mcp/servers If anyone from Cursor is reading this, we are rolling out MCP server usage analytics where we aggregate (anonymous) usage data across several providers. Would be amazing to include Cursor (reach me at frank@glama.ai). The data will be used to help the community discover the most used (and therefore useful) clients and servers.
smcleod 1y ago
I don't really see why people still use Cursor over tools like Cline / Roo Code. I'm guessing it's as they clearly have a larger viral marketing department than engineers, as the application itself doesn't perform nearly as well, requires you to have another IDE installed and their subscriptions nerf the models context sizes etc...
- demosthanos 1y ago
  Because at some point we have to stop riding the treadmill and just pick a tool and use it to make stuff. Cursor was the first to really arrive at a useful agent mode. It does everything I need it to and more. It's not worth it to me to keep hopping to new tools every time a new one becomes the hyped up hot thing. Like it or not, we're hitting the slope of enlightenment and some of us are ready to be done with the churn for a while.
  - smcleod 1y ago
    Cline was agent based from day one and doesn't try to do copilot style tab completes at all. It's been our go to agentic coding app across the majority of our large clients since mid-late 2024. Cursor has been trying to play catch up but has not delivered us the same results.
    - demosthanos 1y ago
      > doesn't try to do copilot style tab completes at all Which is another reason why I'll stick with Cursor. Cursor's tab complete can barely be described as Copilot-style, it's nearly a different paradigm and it's what actually got me to pay for it in the first place. I only tried agent mode because it was included with the bundle. > from day one July 5, 2024 if going by initial commit. So, yes, technically before Cursor, but Cursor was building agent mode before Cline drew any attention in the mainstream. Cline's first interest on HN dates back to January. I'll concede that it appears Cline did get to agents first, but it's still a new development in terms of actually drawing interest.
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DidYaWipe 1y ago
Is what?
thegrim33 1y ago
It's an IDE but they don't bother to list on their website what languages you can use the IDE to develop for? I feel like I'm going crazy here. How can they not bother to mention that on their website / marketing?
- mlboss 1y ago
  You should be good as long as you use one of the mainstream languages: Python, JS, Java, C++, Golang, Ruby, Rust etc
  - troupo 1y ago
    Elixir has noticeably improved with recent releases
- Vilian 1y ago
  Vs code also don't advertise what language it's for, isn't the same case here?
  - Salgat 1y ago
    On VS Code's front page it explicitly lists 12 languages and that it "supports almost every major programming language. Several ship in the box, like JavaScript, TypeScript, CSS, and HTML, but extensions for others can be found in the VS Code Marketplace."
- ecb_penguin 1y ago
  They support every language through their plugin architecture. "Cursor works with any programming language. We’ve explicitely worked to improve the performance of our custom models — Tab included — on important but less popular languages like Rust, C++, and CUDA." Hundreds of languages supported: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/overview https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/overview
curiousElf 1y ago
I wish they had proper support for multi root repos (even though the last update promised better support, it was just a line in the release notes with no docs - which seems to be their usual change management style). Its so painful - the model never knows the directory in which it is supposed to be and goes on a wild goose chase of searching in the wrong repo. I have to keep guiding it to the right repo. Anyone here has had success with such a setup?
- SkyPuncher 1y ago
  I have a cursor rule that tells it about directories. Basically just X is UI, Y is BE, Z is auth. Keep it short. It's enough for it to realize it needs to navigate directories.
  - adastra22 1y ago
    Does cursor ever read your rules? It is constantly ignoring very clear directives in my .cursorrules file.
    - grub5000 1y ago
      Have you upgraded to the new .mdc file format? I didn't get around to .cursorrules before this format came out, but I'm finding .mdc is reliable if configured well (e.g. with the right file extensions)
      - adastra22 1y ago
        My understanding of the docs is that these are all handled the same: Cursor just adds any rules file to the context for each request, and that's it. I don't believe there is any mechanism by which to call special attention to particular rules in the context window. I could try renaming the file though.
    - SkyPuncher 1y ago
      I've never used rules. They're not portable to other IDEs, so I've never invested the effort. I just have a bunch of markdown files with various prompts that I drop into context when I need them.
jameslk 1y ago
Cursor wishlist item for any PM listening: When reviewing the changes made from agent mode, I don’t know why the model made the change or whether the model even made the change versus a tool call making the change. It’s a pain to go fish out the reason from a long response the model gives in the chat. Example: I recently asked a model to set up shadcn for a project, but while trying to debug why things looked pretty broken, I had sift through a bunch of changes that looked like nasty hallucinations and separate those from actual command line changes that came from shadcn's CLI the model called. Ended up having to just do things the old fashioned way to set things up, reading the fine manual and using my brain (I almost forgot I had one) It would be nice if above every line of code, there’s a clear indication of whether it came from a model and why the model made the change. Like a code comment, but without littering the code with actual comments
- namanyayg 1y ago
  Was just discussing this a friend today Hand written code needs to be distinguishable and considered at a higher priority for future code generation context
- brutuscat 1y ago
  Ah! You are asking for version control system? It’s called git!
  - bastawhiz 1y ago
    They're asking for a feature to show context on why a bit of diff was created before saving the changes to the disk.
    - truculent 1y ago
      I think their point is that that is a commit message. You can then review the set of changes as you would a PR.
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blixt 1y ago
I keep switching away from and back to Cursor (mainly due to frontier models explicitly fighting their apply model, the first few times it’s funny to see the LLM itself write “this is frustrating” but I digress). And every time I find it having diverged further from VSCode compatibility. This wouldn’t be so bad if it was an intentional design choice but it seems more that Microsoft is starting to push them out? Like MS Dev Containers plugin is still recommended by some leftover internal, but if you install it you get pushed to a flow that auto uninstalls it and installs Remote Containers by Anysphere (which works differently and lacks support for some features). And I end up rebuilding my Dev Container once more… I also noticed recent extensions such as the Postgres one from MS also doesn’t exist.
- techpression 1y ago
  I fully expect MS to change the VS Code license in the not so far future to make applications like Cursor not possible. Forking might be a thing initially but will quickly fade since without the backing of MS the ecosystem around it will die.
  - evo_9 1y ago
    This is why I’m using Zed now, and Claude Code. I like to keep Zed pretty minimal and I’m slowly weening off of Cursor in favor of Claude Code when I need it
    - asadm 1y ago
      have you tried zed agent? how does it compare with cursor?
      - artdigital 1y ago
        It’s getting better fast. It’s still needs refining but I have no issues spending the entire day in it
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ai_assisted_dev 1y ago
I still don't understand how cursor is making any money at all. I spend so much time inside cursor, that I am spending 10-20$ per day on additional requests. Now if I connect model provider APIs to windsurf, I'd be spending upwards of 100$ due to amount of tokens I use through the API per day. And if I connect my own API key to Cursor, I immediately get rate limited for any request, because I go well above 50 per minute. And I did try claude code, but its just not on par with my experience with Cursor. I could probably go much lower, and find a model that is dirt cheap but takes a while; but right now the cutting edge (for my own work) is Claude 4 (non-max / non-thinking). To me it feels like Cursor must be hemorrhaging money. The thing that works for me is that I am able to justify those costs working on my own services, that has some customers, and each added feature gives me almost immediate return on investment. But to me it feels like the current rates that cursor charges are not rooted in reality. Quickly checking Cursor for the past 4 day period: Requests: 1049 Lines of Agent Edits: 301k Tabs accepted: 84 Personally, I have very little complaints or issues with cursor. Only a growing wish list of more features and functionality. Like how cool would it be if asynchronous requests would work? Rather than just waiting for a single request to complete on 10 files, why can't it work on those 10 files in parralel at the same time? Because now so much time is spend waiting for the request to complete (while I work on another part of the app in a different workspace with Cursor).
- shafyy 1y ago
  > I still don't understand how cursor is making any money at all. They don't make any money. They are burning VC money. Anthropic and OpenAI are probably also not making moeny, but Cursor is making "more no money" than others.
  - wordofx 1y ago
    No.
  - m101 1y ago
    Are anthropic and openai making money (including training and infra costs)?
priyankc 1y ago
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hysan 1y ago
Have they managed to fix the bug where applying changes to a file moves the file to the first in your list of open files? And even pinning it if you have other files pinned? Overall, while I've liked using Cursor, it has many bugs like this that I haven't experienced in other VSCode forks and makes me wonder what they consider to be 1.0 quality.
- ChromaticPanic 1y ago
  Been using Cursor on Linux and Windows for 2 months and I've never seen this bug
gazagoal 1y ago
As someone who has two annual subs of Cursor Pro (one from student account and another from Lenny's newsletter), I just spent $100 on Claude Code and I haven't touched Cursor AI for any coding tasks since. If you already spend anything near or over $100 on Cursor, it's no brainer. The agent experience is night and day. No more wrong tool-calling, premature ending of conversation, failure to apply changes or overwriting a whole file with the update snippet. I'm considering upgrading to $200 Claude Max next month for more concurrent sessions. If anyone reading this thinking this is a paid comment, go search for other users' feedback. Claude Code is that good.
- Imanari 1y ago
  How are you using more concurrent sessions?
  - amirhirsch 1y ago
    For each file in files: claude prompt with file You can generally do map-reduce, also you can have separate git worktrees and have it work on all your tickets at the same time.
- apwell23 1y ago
  i get cursor pro sub from work but i feel claude code fomo from reading all the comparisons on the internet. am i missing that much ?
  - nxobject 1y ago
    In a similar position – I get Cursor Pro on a free student plan, which means a lot on a student budget. It looks like Anthropic can afford not to offer a cheaper education plan directed to students do so for now.
- flawn 1y ago
  Can you elaborate why Claude Code is that much better in regard to also the missing in built IDE functionality?
delbronski 1y ago
Anyone tried Junie from JetBrains? Im super happy with it. I’m not sure how it compares to other coding agents though.
- sgt 1y ago
  What's Junie? I am currently trialing the AI assistant in IntelliJ but I didn't see that name anywhere.
  - spand 1y ago
    Its their take on a coding agent that just came out of early access.
  - avinassh 1y ago
    this one - https://www.jetbrains.com/junie/ https://www.jetbrains.com/junie/
    - sgt 1y ago
      It behaves weirdly. I opened a Python file in PyCharm and asked Junie: "Tell me about this file". It then proceeds to do about 15 LLM calls, then ends up with a "git diff" and then "Done" (the implementation is error-free). What's the value add here?
      - Due_Winter_5330 1y ago
        You need to use Ask mode rather than Code mode in Junie, there is a toggle
- BozeWolf 1y ago
  I tried it, it did some magical stuff, like completely rewriting my go test suite from matrix based tests to individual tests. Took a few minutes. Code was mostly correct. Also had a few misses. But in general it is ok. Still prefer ai assistant, because i can then direct the result into a certain direction. It also feels faster, it probably is not because of the manual stuff involved.
anktor 1y ago
Does anyone have experience with using this or another agent on local files? No company I know of will approve this for their owned repositories. What about Gitlab instead of GitHub, is there an equivalent to cursor 1.0 product?
- lauriswtf 1y ago
  Claude Code runs in your terminal and works with your local files.
- adastra22 1y ago
  All of these agents work on local files... do you mean local LLMs?
  - sandos 1y ago
    No, he basically means thay companies will not allow LLMs on their own code, I think. I work in a multinational conglomerate, and we got AI allowed ... 2-3 weeks ago. Before that it was basically banned unless you had gotten permission. We did have another gpt4 based AI in the browser available for a few months before that as well.
    - anktor 1y ago
      Correct. I don't want to circumvent rules but sometimes it feels like falling behind, like for reviewing MRs.
- input_sh 1y ago
  If you have a decent GPU or a modern Mac, you can run something like LM Studio (https://lmstudio.ai/ https://lmstudio.ai/) or Ollama (https://ollama.com/ https://ollama.com/), configure the tool such as Cursor to use those models you've downloaded (personally I use Zed.dev), and then everything happens straight on your computer. Responses will be somewhat slower and not as good as state-of-the-art models, but they still can be helpful. Git host doesn't really make a difference.
rcarmo 1y ago
I can’t find enough value in this to move me away from Copilot on nvim (with the MCP plugin) and VS Code’s agent mode. Even Zed is better than Cursor at this point, solely because it’s faster. And they all support Claude 4.
joshwarwick15 1y ago
Finally added support for Oauth based remote MCP severs! List of site to connect to here: https://github.com/jaw9c/awesome-remote-mcp-servers https://github.com/jaw9c/awesome-remote-mcp-servers
arberavdullahu 1y ago
I can’t try Background Agents yet because they aren’t available in Privacy Mode. I’m curious if—and how—they’ll roll this out to others, given their guarantee that no code is stored on their servers. According to their security page [1], about 50% of users have Privacy Mode enabled. I’m also curious how this compares to OpenAI’s Codex. In my experience, running agents locally has worked better for large or complex codebases, especially since setting up the environment correctly can be tricky in those setups. [1] https://www.cursor.com/security#privacy-mode-guarantee https://www.cursor.com/security#privacy-mode-guarantee
dkersten 1y ago
I stopped using Cursor once Zed released their agent mode. Cursor consistently leaks memory for me even with all extensions removed, Zed is much lighter weight and in my personal opinion just a better editor. Also, Trae being $10 for more requests makes Cursor far less appealing to me.
- survirtual 1y ago
  The other day, I was repairing a raidz2 cluster. Power instability during a heavy / long term write operation caused problems resembling defective drives and corrupted metadata all over the drives. I came up with a strategy to repair it but I needed some code which was pretty straightforward. Rust is easier for me than shell scripting so I started writing what I needed and remembered Zed added agent mode. I decided to give it a shot. I had it use Claude 4 with my api tokens. It wrote the entire program, tested it, debugged it. It made some bad assumptions and I just steered it towards what I needed. By the end of about an hour, I had my complete fix plus an entire ZFS management layer in Rust. It did cost $11, but that is a drop in the bucket for time saved. I was impressed. Just sharing this because I got real and measured value recently that is way beyond the widely shared experience.
  - dkersten 1y ago
    Yeah, I’m impressed with it too. Sure there are things that can still be improved, especially the tab completion, but I’m very happy with how well agent mode works over all! As an aside: $11 for an hour of Claude 4 seems expensive? I’ve been using Claude 4 (through a Zed Pro subscription, not with my own keys) and I haven’t hit the subscription limits yet. Were you using burn mode, or?
    - survirtual 1y ago
      The cost came from the context size and repeated queries without changing context. It adds up fast. Using my own API tokens is effectively equivalent to "burn mode" when using Zed's subscription model. At the current pricing, I value my time more than these costs and maintaining context can save a lot of time as opposed to maximizing context vs cost.
serverlessmania 1y ago
This product is going to be obsolete with the rise of terminal-based agents like Claude Code and Codex. Why would I abandon my entire workflow and toolset to use a fork of VSCode? Especially one that Microsoft will likely make increasingly difficult to maintain. Developers use Vim, JetBrains, Emacs, VSCode, and many other tools—what makes you think they’ll switch to your fork?
mythz 1y ago
IMO it's a strategic misstep to try and create their own IDE with a fork of VS Code. I'm only going to consider AI Tools that integrate with my IDEs (primarily VS Code + Rider) as such my AI weapons of choice are now: augmentcode.com (fave), GitHub Copilot, Gemini Code Assist and now Claude Code now that I can use it with my pro plan.
- slig 1y ago
  Cursor—the fastest-growing AI code editor in the world, reaching $300 million in annual recurring revenue just two years after its launch
  - joshstrange 1y ago
    Revenue is far from the whole story. What is their _profit_? If you sell $1.00 USD for $0.90 you can get nearly unlimited revenue (until you run out of cash).
    - ZeroTalent 1y ago
      Revenue/users/employees are all that matters cause they will get bought for $20B by one of the M7 or another AI company this year likely.
  - input_sh 1y ago
    That tells you nothing about their operating expenses (I'd bet they're operating in the red), and if you divide that by their cheapest available plan, that's at most 1.5 million paying users (probably way less).
  - mythz 1y ago
    Yep it's off to a great start with its early mover advantage but IMO their days on top are numbered with every major player behind the premier coding models (and major IDE vendors) iterating hard on their own integrated AI coding agents, after which I suspect Cursor's choice for using a proprietary IDE is going to look dated.
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CafeRacer 1y ago
I've given up on cursor a while back. Too many updates, sometimes if produces shit when you don't need it to react at all, and sometimes for simple really useful autocompletions it hangs for a long time making snippets way more approachable. Overall, I am having hard time with code autocompletion in IDE. I am using Claude desktop to search for information and bounce off ideas, but having it directly in IDE – I find it too disturbing. Also there is this whole ordeal with VSCode Marketplace no longer available in Cursor. I'm not saying AI in IDE is bad, it's just I personally can't get into it to actually feel more productive.
mritchie712 1y ago
They show a Devin style slack app[0] in the video but there's not mention of it anywhere else. Does anyone have it installed? 0 - https://x.com/thisritchie/status/1930598413587959827 https://x.com/thisritchie/status/1930598413587959827
tuesdaynight 1y ago
I trust that Claude Code is good, and I believe that most people commenting here are truthful to their experiences. However, I have a strange feeling that companies are using bots on these announcements comments. Maybe I'm being overcautious, but one of the worst things (for me) that came from the AI rush of these past years is this feeling that everything is full of bots. I know that people have preferences, but I feel that I cannot trust anymore that a specific review was really made by a human. I know that this is not something new, but LLMs take it to the next level for me.
- pembrook 1y ago
  Totally agree, but that said, I just fired up Cursor on a paid account and after a few chats immediately hit the same issue I've been facing for weeks: 'Connection failed. If the problem persists, please check your internet connection or VPN' I've contacted support and they have been no help. You can see tons of people having this issue in user forums. Meanwhile, bypassing the giant monstrosity that is VScode (and then a Cursor as a fork on top of it) gives me no such issues. So I wouldn't be so dismissive that anyone frustrated with Cursor is a bot.
  - Jenk 1y ago
    > So I wouldn't be so dismissive that anyone frustrated with Cursor is a bot. Not GP, but my suspicions are actually of the other end of the spectrum - i.e., it's the glowing reviews of AI things that make my bot-sense tingle. Though I usually settle on the idea that they (the reviewers) are using LLMs to write/refine their reviews.
  - verelo 1y ago
    I’ve hit this error many times. Oddly closing and reopening cursor typically fixes it…
- rgbrenner 1y ago
  All of these reviews are irrelevant anyway because of the variations in the problems, skillset, project attributes (size, structure, etc), human variations in prompting, and a million other reasons. You should just set aside some time to try out different tools and see if you agree there's an improvement. For trying models, OpenRouter is a big time saver.
rgbrenner 1y ago
Recently canceled cursor. I think there's a shift happening right now with the improvements in the ability to process large context sizes and stay on task: Traditional code editing -> autocomplete -> file editing -> agent mode This is basically a gradient of AI output sizes. Initially, with the ability to generate small snippets (autocomplete), and moving up to larger and larger edits across the codebase. Cursor represents the initial step of AI-assisted traditional coding... but agent mode is reliable now, and can be directed fairly consistently to produce decent output, even in monorepos (IME). Once the output is produced by the agent, Ive found I prefer minimal to no AI for refining it and cleaning it up. The development techniques are different. In agent mode, there's far more focus on structuring the project, context, and prompts.. which doesn't happen as much in the ai-autocomplete development flow. Once this process shift happened in my workflow, the autocomplete became virtually unused. So I think this shift toward larger outputs favors agent-focused tools like CC, Aider, Cline, and RooCode (my personal favorite).. over more traditional interfaces with ai-assistance.
- jjice 1y ago
  If they're small corrections, I generally agree that manual changes are the easier solution. I have been recently trying to correct it and then having it generate a Cursor rule to tell itself to avoid that initial mistake (style and structure situations) in the future. Doesn't always work out, but it's handy when it does.
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- weego 1y ago
  Yes, my initial distrust lead me to believe that I should only trust whatever ai agent it is to handle the granular issues in code. But they're fundamentally bad at it unless you spend more time prompting and re-prompting than a human with the right context would spend doing it properly. Now I've changed my technical planning phase to write in a prompt-friendly way, so I can get AI to bootstrap, structure, boilerplate and usually also do the database setup and service layer, so I can jump right into actually writing the granular logic. It doesn't save me planning or logic overhead, but it does give me far more momentum at the start of a project, which is a massive win.
gwhr 1y ago
I've been using Cursor since they merged with Supermaven, but I'm concerned with how they handle controversial feedback on their subreddit. Recently, there was a post with detailed evidence suggesting Cursor was intentionally throttling requests [1], including reverse engineering and reproducible behaviors. The team initially responded with a "happy to follow up", but later removed their replies that got downvoted, and banned the OP from posting further updates. Their response sounded AI-generated too, which wasn't very surprising based on the way they handle customer support [2]. I wish they were more open to criticism instead of only claiming to be transparent. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/cursor/comments/1kqj7n3/cursor_intentionally_slowing_nonfast_requests/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cursor/comments/1kqj7n3/cursor_inte... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43700931 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43700931
vladstudio 1y ago
I must mention https://ampcode.com/manual https://ampcode.com/manual which is my favorite toy of them all right now. Has almost no settings; uses Claude 4, no way to change model; just works! (Unfortunately, not a paid comment.)
- nxobject 1y ago
  A small thing, but I appreciate their free trial usage "starter pack" - the landscape of SWE assistance tools is pretty large these days, and it's impossible to assess fit for the use cases you're interested in without trials. As much as all the positive feedback and/or hype about Anthropic's product is tempting, for hobbyist use I can't quite justify shelling $20 out of the box. (That's to say I can't bill it to someone paying me...)
- cheema33 1y ago
  You forgot to say what the primary benefit is. Because it lacks controls? I can see how some might consider that a plus.
  - vladstudio 1y ago
    Yes, something like that. As probably many of you, I spent way too much time switching between agentic apps, switching between models inside these apps, and tweaking system prompts for these models. When Ampcode took it all away from me, I found I enjoyed the actual AI-assisted coding much more than configuring. Of course, largely because it just worked. Granted, I had enough experience with other AI tools to manage my expectations.
    - kanwisher 1y ago
      I still have zero idea what this does, I went to website. I use cursor, and 5 llms. you need to really tighten your marketing message
- swah 1y ago
  The vibes are on point... I guess looking like Perplexity, right? But for the way I'm using Cursor, I guess the flow is harder? I want to make smallish edits (review code, improve function)
blackhaj7 1y ago
Absolutely hate the scammy dark pattern they introduced in the latest update by hiding the close button on the chat and defaulting the expensive, pay-per-use Max mode to on. Cursor a lot of respect from our dev team if todays slack messages are anything to go by
ashleynewman 1y ago
Lots of comments here are so unrelated to the release, just people complaining about how they don’t like cursor because it’s a fork of VSCode… I’m particularly interested in the release of BugBot. The docs mention it looks at diffs but I hope it’s also scanning through the repository and utilizing full context. Requesting copilot to do a review does the same thing but because it’s only looking at diffs the feedback it provides is pretty useless, mainly just things that a linter could catch.
jimrandomh 1y ago
I tried Cursor, and will occasionally switch into it, but I'm having a hard time using it because its relationship to extensions (particularly extensions that the user develops and sideloads) is badly broken. I tried doing minor customization (forking the vim plugin from the github version, creating a vscode hello-world-style plugin), and while everything worked in VsCode, transferring those plugins into Cursor did not. There was no documentation for plugins in Cursor, you just had to hope that things were similar-enough to VsCode. And then they failed to load with no debugging leads. I think this is an artifact of Cursor being a closed-source fork of an open-source project, with a plugin architecture that's heavily reliant on the IDE at least being source-available. And, frankly, taking an open-source project like VsCode and commercializing it without even making it source-available is a dishonorable thing to do, and I'm rooting against them.
- MichaelZuo 1y ago
  That does seem a bit shady… is there really still no documentation on this after they’ve raised so much money?
GiorgioG 1y ago
And for months now Cursor on Windows loves to run a 'q' command which doesn't fucking exist..so every time it executes a command line command I get this: C:\projects\my_project>q^D^C 'q' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 1.0 my ass.
- make3 1y ago
  this is not super constructive, is it really the top comment on HN
  - Philpax 1y ago
    The sort order biases towards newer posts.
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  - consumer451 1y ago
    In many cases the most recent comment is put on top, so it doesn't get buried at the bottom. That priority diminishes as the minutes pass.
loa_observer 1y ago
I am building a jupyter native code agent that interact with jupyter kernel better and can understand data, charts, etc. Not just read/edit jupyter files. video demo here, https://x.com/ob12er/status/1930439669130637482?s=46&t=2jNrjJ3DLketuo6TTa56oQ https://x.com/ob12er/status/1930439669130637482?s=46&t=2jNrj...
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sidgarimella 1y ago
I myself run five IDE's in parallel with ~ 6 terminal sessions all on Claude Code. There's a time and place for each tool. Also, thanks to my Neuralink, I have Linear and Azure MCP's wired directly into my frontal cortex at all times. This makes it really easy to keep our docs up to date without lifting a finger.
- metaltyphoon 1y ago
  Man… you got me good in the first half.
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tomerbd 1y ago
In the recent month VSCode has been catching up fast, I think sooner than later VSCode Copilot will be better than alternatives.
toastercat 1y ago
I've only tried Cursor superficially for 10 minutes. I admit I've kept my head in the sand during this AI boom for the most part. I'm curious from people in this thread: * Are you using Cursor as your main editor? * For more senior engineers -- is it really that much of a productivity boost? * Is the primary use of an AI editor like Cursor to handle more tedious tasks? Ex: generate an array with all the months, write some unit tests for me for some simple component, write some boilerplate code for me, etc.

Cursor 1.0

613 points by ecz 1y ago

benoittravers 1y ago

These just look like small updates. Doesn’t warrant a full version upgrade.

reubenmorais 1y ago
1.0 is not an upgrade, it's the first stable release. Usually it signifies the arrival of some amount of feature completeness and stability compared to the fast paced 0.x days. Of course semver doesn't really fit neatly most software let alone a user facing GUI application, but socially that's what they're trying to communicate with the 1.0.
- pzo 1y ago
  These days those versioning is just PR and doesn't mean much like if something is stable. Gmail used to have beta mark for how many years but was still used. Rect native is 0.79 but doesn't mean it's not production ready.

mistercheph 1y ago

Closed source, don’t care

artursapek 1y ago
based

helloplanets 1y ago

Is there a good chart somewhere, to compare all the current AI coding CLIs / IDEs / extensions with one another?

trashymctrash 1y ago
this maybe? https://liveswebench.ai/ https://liveswebench.ai/
- tptacek 1y ago
  I don't think you really want to boil this down to a number; there's a whole lot of feature and workflow differences to capture: * BYO model or not * CLI, UI, VSC-plugin or web * async/sync * MCP support * context size * indexed or live grep-style search There's probably like 10 more.
- wiradikusuma 1y ago
  Never heard SWE-agent until now, and seems to beat Aider (the tool I use) consistently. Does anyone know if it's GitHub-only or can it be used as a CLI (i.e., Aider replacement)?
  - mdaniel 1y ago
    Heh, the irony doesn't escape me https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/tree/v1.1.0/.cursor/rules https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/tree/v1.1.0/.cursor/r... Anyway https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/blob/v1.1.0/docs/usage/cli.md https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/blob/v1.1.0/docs/usag... and https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/blob/v1.1.0/docs/config/tools.md https://github.com/SWE-agent/SWE-agent/blob/v1.1.0/docs/conf...
- EgoIncarnate 1y ago
  I don't think it's being kept up to date. I believe for the IDEs, it requires manual testing to get the numbers. Since things change so quickly, it's mostly just a historical artifact. Hopefully some future version is automated.

swyx 1y ago

this is remarkably lowkey for a 1.0 of a big product. where is the splashy overproduced video? where is the promises of agi? where is the "we are just getting started" / "we cant wait to see what you'll build"? how do i know what to think if you aren't going to tell me what to think? edit: oh haha https://x.com/cursor_ai/status/1930358111677886677 https://x.com/cursor_ai/status/1930358111677886677

mntruell 1y ago
We tried to make the video lowkey-ish! Appreciate any feedback if came off differently.
- swyx 1y ago
  it was lighthearted sarcasm. congrats Michael, huge milestone

asar 1y ago

Cursor recently lost me as a customer. Too many updates that disturb my workflow and productivity, no easy way to roll back versions, super sparse changelogs, lots of magic in context building, really untransparent pricing on max mode. I recently made the switch to Claude Code on the Max plan and I couldn't be happier. The only real thing I'm missing is the diff view across files, but I assume it's just a matter of time until that's properly implemented in Zed or VSCode.

1ucky 1y ago
Since last week it’s possible to use Claude Code in the VSCode terminal where it now automatically installs a plugin to display the diffs.
- asar 1y ago
  thanks! i never set this up properly. did it now though, really cool!
lopatin 1y ago
I feel unstoppable with Claude Code Max. I never thought I'd pay $200 per month for any developer tool, yet here we are, and I also couldn't be happier with it.
- deadbabe 1y ago
  Would you pay $400?
  - esafak 1y ago
    Don't give people ideas.
    - deadbabe 1y ago
      Other professions pay a lot for their tools, and developers are loaded with cash.

philip1209 1y ago

There has to be some kind of joke in here about how long it takes people to declare a 1.0 release. "1 million ARR? Not yet. 10 million ARR? Not yet. 300 million ARR? Maybe soon."

esafak 1y ago
"A million dollars isn't cool. You know what's cool? A billion."

jadbox 1y ago

VSCode with extensions Copilot [autocomplete] + CLINE [AI chat] + FOAM [obsidian-esk markdown support] is goat. There's no way a closed-source alternative to going to compete with this.

barbazoo 1y ago
FOAM?
- steveklabnik 1y ago
  https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=foam.foam-vscode https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=foam.foa...
- Redster 1y ago
  https://github.com/foambubble/foam https://github.com/foambubble/foam
kurtis_reed 1y ago
What does "is goat" mean?
- bluetidepro 1y ago
  Goat is slang for “(the) greatest of all time.”
  - kshacker 1y ago
    I was today years old minus maybe a few months when I learned this, and I had seen it referenced so many times.
    - bluetidepro 1y ago
      Some interesting reading about the term: https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2018/09/07/tom-brady-goat-dictionary/ https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2018/09/0...

BudaDude 1y ago

I love Cursor, but it feels like a ticking time bomb with extensions not being updated at the same rate as VSCode. Also another issue I am starting to see is the lack of shared MCP servers. If I have VSCode, Cursor, and Claude open, each one is running its own instance of the MCP server. You can imagine that with a dozen or so MCP's, the memory footprint becomes quite large for no reason.

TranquilMarmot 1y ago
What are you using MCP for? We recently launched Zapier MCP, we host the servers for you: https://zapier.com/mcp https://zapier.com/mcp
tevlon 1y ago
That's why i use Docker MCP Catalog. One MCP Server to rule them all. more info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I2L4U7Xq6g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I2L4U7Xq6g
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- greymalik 1y ago
  Here’s an alternate link if you prefer to read text instead of watching a 6 minute video: https://docs.docker.com/ai/mcp-catalog-and-toolkit/catalog/ https://docs.docker.com/ai/mcp-catalog-and-toolkit/catalog/
- xyc 1y ago
  I recently discovered toolhive which is pretty handy too https://github.com/stacklok/toolhive https://github.com/stacklok/toolhive
- manorek 1y ago
  I don't understand. Is this meant to run locally? Because I tried to deploy my agent using GitHub MCP server to K8s. I can't ask my agent to run docker command in a pod.
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ukblewis 1y ago

I can’t be the only one for which the Python support in Cursor has been absolutely garbage the past week. I’m super disappointed with Cursor. I wanted to love it

hobo_mark 1y ago
I uninstalled Cursor months ago because of that and am always surprised nobody else brings that up, ever.

hollowturtle 1y ago

I keep getting back and forth between Cursor and Zed, but Cursor autocomplete and next cursor prediction are still the best in class between all the competitors, I don't use chats and agents, yet I feel very productive and fast. I sometimes go back to Copilot too just to see how is it going but it has been very delusional so far regarding code suggestions. The only thing I hate about Cursor is the overwrite of some of the shortcuts of vscode, I remapped some and learned some new, and that vim mode plugin is a bit buggy. This and the fact that performance compared with Zed is shit and that's why I go back to Zed sometimes, I'm pondering the idea of just using both and keep them both open

Glyptodon 1y ago
I think not using agent chat is kind of a missing forest for the trees sort of thing. That said, I do continue to think that agents are in this weird zone where it's more natural to want to interact through ticketing layer, but you kind of want to editor layer for the final 5%.
- hollowturtle 1y ago
  Missing forest by chatting about a problem? I keep going back to agents from time to time, never worked for me, and I already spend a lot of time understanding boss tickets(via extra meetings and feedback loops) I don't want explain again down the line, my strong opinion is that I'm paid for doing real work augmented by AI, not assigning "tickets" to the AI
RollingRo11 1y ago
> I'm pondering the idea of just using both and keep them both open Do it. I've started editing with Zed and just keeping Cursor/Intellij open on the side. (Cursor b/c of the the free student plan, Intellij for school assignments). I feel spoiled by the performance, especially on promotion displays. I've started noticing some dropped frames in Cursor and measured an avg of 45-60 fps in Intellij (which is somewhat expected for such a huge IDE). I basically exclusively write in Zed, and do everything else in their respective apps.

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theappsecguy 1y ago

Cursor had been atrocious. Building on top of an already crappy IDE, you’d hope that they are at least keeping up with VSCode improvements and updates. But they are far behind and instead keep slapping on more garbage. The agent stuff is largely useless. The tab prediction go nuts every few seconds completely disrupting flow.

girvo 1y ago
> The tab prediction go nuts every few seconds completely disrupting flow. This is my main gripe with it, too. It's still been semi-useful at least for some analysis and examination of our code-base, but editing and autocomplete I've not found super useful yet.
Aeolun 1y ago
Huh, I have the opposite experience. The only tab complete worth anything is in Cursor.
- Glyptodon 1y ago
  I agree it has good completes, but it also hallucinates completes for blank lines or in the middle of typing a one word change and that can be irritating. Still better than plain VS code autocomplete though.

punkpeye 1y ago

Exciting! Particularly the emphasis on smoother MCP integrations. Will be adding the Add to cursor button to Glama later today today. https://glama.ai/mcp/servers https://glama.ai/mcp/servers If anyone from Cursor is reading this, we are rolling out MCP server usage analytics where we aggregate (anonymous) usage data across several providers. Would be amazing to include Cursor (reach me at frank@glama.ai). The data will be used to help the community discover the most used (and therefore useful) clients and servers.

smcleod 1y ago

I don't really see why people still use Cursor over tools like Cline / Roo Code. I'm guessing it's as they clearly have a larger viral marketing department than engineers, as the application itself doesn't perform nearly as well, requires you to have another IDE installed and their subscriptions nerf the models context sizes etc...

demosthanos 1y ago
Because at some point we have to stop riding the treadmill and just pick a tool and use it to make stuff. Cursor was the first to really arrive at a useful agent mode. It does everything I need it to and more. It's not worth it to me to keep hopping to new tools every time a new one becomes the hyped up hot thing. Like it or not, we're hitting the slope of enlightenment and some of us are ready to be done with the churn for a while.
- smcleod 1y ago
  Cline was agent based from day one and doesn't try to do copilot style tab completes at all. It's been our go to agentic coding app across the majority of our large clients since mid-late 2024. Cursor has been trying to play catch up but has not delivered us the same results.
  - demosthanos 1y ago
    > doesn't try to do copilot style tab completes at all Which is another reason why I'll stick with Cursor. Cursor's tab complete can barely be described as Copilot-style, it's nearly a different paradigm and it's what actually got me to pay for it in the first place. I only tried agent mode because it was included with the bundle. > from day one July 5, 2024 if going by initial commit. So, yes, technically before Cursor, but Cursor was building agent mode before Cline drew any attention in the mainstream. Cline's first interest on HN dates back to January. I'll concede that it appears Cline did get to agents first, but it's still a new development in terms of actually drawing interest.
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DidYaWipe 1y ago

Is what?

thegrim33 1y ago

It's an IDE but they don't bother to list on their website what languages you can use the IDE to develop for? I feel like I'm going crazy here. How can they not bother to mention that on their website / marketing?

mlboss 1y ago
You should be good as long as you use one of the mainstream languages: Python, JS, Java, C++, Golang, Ruby, Rust etc
- troupo 1y ago
  Elixir has noticeably improved with recent releases
Vilian 1y ago
Vs code also don't advertise what language it's for, isn't the same case here?
- Salgat 1y ago
  On VS Code's front page it explicitly lists 12 languages and that it "supports almost every major programming language. Several ship in the box, like JavaScript, TypeScript, CSS, and HTML, but extensions for others can be found in the VS Code Marketplace."
ecb_penguin 1y ago
They support every language through their plugin architecture. "Cursor works with any programming language. We’ve explicitely worked to improve the performance of our custom models — Tab included — on important but less popular languages like Rust, C++, and CUDA." Hundreds of languages supported: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/overview https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/overview

curiousElf 1y ago

I wish they had proper support for multi root repos (even though the last update promised better support, it was just a line in the release notes with no docs - which seems to be their usual change management style). Its so painful - the model never knows the directory in which it is supposed to be and goes on a wild goose chase of searching in the wrong repo. I have to keep guiding it to the right repo. Anyone here has had success with such a setup?

SkyPuncher 1y ago
I have a cursor rule that tells it about directories. Basically just X is UI, Y is BE, Z is auth. Keep it short. It's enough for it to realize it needs to navigate directories.
- adastra22 1y ago
  Does cursor ever read your rules? It is constantly ignoring very clear directives in my .cursorrules file.
  - grub5000 1y ago
    Have you upgraded to the new .mdc file format? I didn't get around to .cursorrules before this format came out, but I'm finding .mdc is reliable if configured well (e.g. with the right file extensions)
    - adastra22 1y ago
      My understanding of the docs is that these are all handled the same: Cursor just adds any rules file to the context for each request, and that's it. I don't believe there is any mechanism by which to call special attention to particular rules in the context window. I could try renaming the file though.
  - SkyPuncher 1y ago
    I've never used rules. They're not portable to other IDEs, so I've never invested the effort. I just have a bunch of markdown files with various prompts that I drop into context when I need them.

jameslk 1y ago

Cursor wishlist item for any PM listening: When reviewing the changes made from agent mode, I don’t know why the model made the change or whether the model even made the change versus a tool call making the change. It’s a pain to go fish out the reason from a long response the model gives in the chat. Example: I recently asked a model to set up shadcn for a project, but while trying to debug why things looked pretty broken, I had sift through a bunch of changes that looked like nasty hallucinations and separate those from actual command line changes that came from shadcn's CLI the model called. Ended up having to just do things the old fashioned way to set things up, reading the fine manual and using my brain (I almost forgot I had one) It would be nice if above every line of code, there’s a clear indication of whether it came from a model and why the model made the change. Like a code comment, but without littering the code with actual comments

namanyayg 1y ago
Was just discussing this a friend today Hand written code needs to be distinguishable and considered at a higher priority for future code generation context
brutuscat 1y ago
Ah! You are asking for version control system? It’s called git!
- bastawhiz 1y ago
  They're asking for a feature to show context on why a bit of diff was created before saving the changes to the disk.
  - truculent 1y ago
    I think their point is that that is a commit message. You can then review the set of changes as you would a PR.
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blixt 1y ago

I keep switching away from and back to Cursor (mainly due to frontier models explicitly fighting their apply model, the first few times it’s funny to see the LLM itself write “this is frustrating” but I digress). And every time I find it having diverged further from VSCode compatibility. This wouldn’t be so bad if it was an intentional design choice but it seems more that Microsoft is starting to push them out? Like MS Dev Containers plugin is still recommended by some leftover internal, but if you install it you get pushed to a flow that auto uninstalls it and installs Remote Containers by Anysphere (which works differently and lacks support for some features). And I end up rebuilding my Dev Container once more… I also noticed recent extensions such as the Postgres one from MS also doesn’t exist.

techpression 1y ago
I fully expect MS to change the VS Code license in the not so far future to make applications like Cursor not possible. Forking might be a thing initially but will quickly fade since without the backing of MS the ecosystem around it will die.
- evo_9 1y ago
  This is why I’m using Zed now, and Claude Code. I like to keep Zed pretty minimal and I’m slowly weening off of Cursor in favor of Claude Code when I need it
  - asadm 1y ago
    have you tried zed agent? how does it compare with cursor?
    - artdigital 1y ago
      It’s getting better fast. It’s still needs refining but I have no issues spending the entire day in it
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ai_assisted_dev 1y ago

I still don't understand how cursor is making any money at all. I spend so much time inside cursor, that I am spending 10-20$ per day on additional requests. Now if I connect model provider APIs to windsurf, I'd be spending upwards of 100$ due to amount of tokens I use through the API per day. And if I connect my own API key to Cursor, I immediately get rate limited for any request, because I go well above 50 per minute. And I did try claude code, but its just not on par with my experience with Cursor. I could probably go much lower, and find a model that is dirt cheap but takes a while; but right now the cutting edge (for my own work) is Claude 4 (non-max / non-thinking). To me it feels like Cursor must be hemorrhaging money. The thing that works for me is that I am able to justify those costs working on my own services, that has some customers, and each added feature gives me almost immediate return on investment. But to me it feels like the current rates that cursor charges are not rooted in reality. Quickly checking Cursor for the past 4 day period: Requests: 1049 Lines of Agent Edits: 301k Tabs accepted: 84 Personally, I have very little complaints or issues with cursor. Only a growing wish list of more features and functionality. Like how cool would it be if asynchronous requests would work? Rather than just waiting for a single request to complete on 10 files, why can't it work on those 10 files in parralel at the same time? Because now so much time is spend waiting for the request to complete (while I work on another part of the app in a different workspace with Cursor).

shafyy 1y ago
> I still don't understand how cursor is making any money at all. They don't make any money. They are burning VC money. Anthropic and OpenAI are probably also not making moeny, but Cursor is making "more no money" than others.
- wordofx 1y ago
  No.
- m101 1y ago
  Are anthropic and openai making money (including training and infra costs)?

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hysan 1y ago

Have they managed to fix the bug where applying changes to a file moves the file to the first in your list of open files? And even pinning it if you have other files pinned? Overall, while I've liked using Cursor, it has many bugs like this that I haven't experienced in other VSCode forks and makes me wonder what they consider to be 1.0 quality.

ChromaticPanic 1y ago
Been using Cursor on Linux and Windows for 2 months and I've never seen this bug

gazagoal 1y ago

As someone who has two annual subs of Cursor Pro (one from student account and another from Lenny's newsletter), I just spent $100 on Claude Code and I haven't touched Cursor AI for any coding tasks since. If you already spend anything near or over $100 on Cursor, it's no brainer. The agent experience is night and day. No more wrong tool-calling, premature ending of conversation, failure to apply changes or overwriting a whole file with the update snippet. I'm considering upgrading to $200 Claude Max next month for more concurrent sessions. If anyone reading this thinking this is a paid comment, go search for other users' feedback. Claude Code is that good.

Imanari 1y ago
How are you using more concurrent sessions?
- amirhirsch 1y ago
  For each file in files: claude prompt with file You can generally do map-reduce, also you can have separate git worktrees and have it work on all your tickets at the same time.
apwell23 1y ago
i get cursor pro sub from work but i feel claude code fomo from reading all the comparisons on the internet. am i missing that much ?
- nxobject 1y ago
  In a similar position – I get Cursor Pro on a free student plan, which means a lot on a student budget. It looks like Anthropic can afford not to offer a cheaper education plan directed to students do so for now.
flawn 1y ago
Can you elaborate why Claude Code is that much better in regard to also the missing in built IDE functionality?

delbronski 1y ago

Anyone tried Junie from JetBrains? Im super happy with it. I’m not sure how it compares to other coding agents though.

sgt 1y ago
What's Junie? I am currently trialing the AI assistant in IntelliJ but I didn't see that name anywhere.
- spand 1y ago
  Its their take on a coding agent that just came out of early access.
- avinassh 1y ago
  this one - https://www.jetbrains.com/junie/ https://www.jetbrains.com/junie/
  - sgt 1y ago
    It behaves weirdly. I opened a Python file in PyCharm and asked Junie: "Tell me about this file". It then proceeds to do about 15 LLM calls, then ends up with a "git diff" and then "Done" (the implementation is error-free). What's the value add here?
    - Due_Winter_5330 1y ago
      You need to use Ask mode rather than Code mode in Junie, there is a toggle
BozeWolf 1y ago
I tried it, it did some magical stuff, like completely rewriting my go test suite from matrix based tests to individual tests. Took a few minutes. Code was mostly correct. Also had a few misses. But in general it is ok. Still prefer ai assistant, because i can then direct the result into a certain direction. It also feels faster, it probably is not because of the manual stuff involved.

anktor 1y ago

Does anyone have experience with using this or another agent on local files? No company I know of will approve this for their owned repositories. What about Gitlab instead of GitHub, is there an equivalent to cursor 1.0 product?

lauriswtf 1y ago
Claude Code runs in your terminal and works with your local files.
adastra22 1y ago
All of these agents work on local files... do you mean local LLMs?
- sandos 1y ago
  No, he basically means thay companies will not allow LLMs on their own code, I think. I work in a multinational conglomerate, and we got AI allowed ... 2-3 weeks ago. Before that it was basically banned unless you had gotten permission. We did have another gpt4 based AI in the browser available for a few months before that as well.
  - anktor 1y ago
    Correct. I don't want to circumvent rules but sometimes it feels like falling behind, like for reviewing MRs.
input_sh 1y ago
If you have a decent GPU or a modern Mac, you can run something like LM Studio (https://lmstudio.ai/ https://lmstudio.ai/) or Ollama (https://ollama.com/ https://ollama.com/), configure the tool such as Cursor to use those models you've downloaded (personally I use Zed.dev), and then everything happens straight on your computer. Responses will be somewhat slower and not as good as state-of-the-art models, but they still can be helpful. Git host doesn't really make a difference.

rcarmo 1y ago

I can’t find enough value in this to move me away from Copilot on nvim (with the MCP plugin) and VS Code’s agent mode. Even Zed is better than Cursor at this point, solely because it’s faster. And they all support Claude 4.

joshwarwick15 1y ago

Finally added support for Oauth based remote MCP severs! List of site to connect to here: https://github.com/jaw9c/awesome-remote-mcp-servers https://github.com/jaw9c/awesome-remote-mcp-servers

arberavdullahu 1y ago

I can’t try Background Agents yet because they aren’t available in Privacy Mode. I’m curious if—and how—they’ll roll this out to others, given their guarantee that no code is stored on their servers. According to their security page [1], about 50% of users have Privacy Mode enabled. I’m also curious how this compares to OpenAI’s Codex. In my experience, running agents locally has worked better for large or complex codebases, especially since setting up the environment correctly can be tricky in those setups. [1] https://www.cursor.com/security#privacy-mode-guarantee https://www.cursor.com/security#privacy-mode-guarantee

dkersten 1y ago

I stopped using Cursor once Zed released their agent mode. Cursor consistently leaks memory for me even with all extensions removed, Zed is much lighter weight and in my personal opinion just a better editor. Also, Trae being $10 for more requests makes Cursor far less appealing to me.

survirtual 1y ago
The other day, I was repairing a raidz2 cluster. Power instability during a heavy / long term write operation caused problems resembling defective drives and corrupted metadata all over the drives. I came up with a strategy to repair it but I needed some code which was pretty straightforward. Rust is easier for me than shell scripting so I started writing what I needed and remembered Zed added agent mode. I decided to give it a shot. I had it use Claude 4 with my api tokens. It wrote the entire program, tested it, debugged it. It made some bad assumptions and I just steered it towards what I needed. By the end of about an hour, I had my complete fix plus an entire ZFS management layer in Rust. It did cost $11, but that is a drop in the bucket for time saved. I was impressed. Just sharing this because I got real and measured value recently that is way beyond the widely shared experience.
- dkersten 1y ago
  Yeah, I’m impressed with it too. Sure there are things that can still be improved, especially the tab completion, but I’m very happy with how well agent mode works over all! As an aside: $11 for an hour of Claude 4 seems expensive? I’ve been using Claude 4 (through a Zed Pro subscription, not with my own keys) and I haven’t hit the subscription limits yet. Were you using burn mode, or?
  - survirtual 1y ago
    The cost came from the context size and repeated queries without changing context. It adds up fast. Using my own API tokens is effectively equivalent to "burn mode" when using Zed's subscription model. At the current pricing, I value my time more than these costs and maintaining context can save a lot of time as opposed to maximizing context vs cost.

serverlessmania 1y ago

This product is going to be obsolete with the rise of terminal-based agents like Claude Code and Codex. Why would I abandon my entire workflow and toolset to use a fork of VSCode? Especially one that Microsoft will likely make increasingly difficult to maintain. Developers use Vim, JetBrains, Emacs, VSCode, and many other tools—what makes you think they’ll switch to your fork?

mythz 1y ago

IMO it's a strategic misstep to try and create their own IDE with a fork of VS Code. I'm only going to consider AI Tools that integrate with my IDEs (primarily VS Code + Rider) as such my AI weapons of choice are now: augmentcode.com (fave), GitHub Copilot, Gemini Code Assist and now Claude Code now that I can use it with my pro plan.

slig 1y ago
Cursor—the fastest-growing AI code editor in the world, reaching $300 million in annual recurring revenue just two years after its launch
- joshstrange 1y ago
  Revenue is far from the whole story. What is their _profit_? If you sell $1.00 USD for $0.90 you can get nearly unlimited revenue (until you run out of cash).
  - ZeroTalent 1y ago
    Revenue/users/employees are all that matters cause they will get bought for $20B by one of the M7 or another AI company this year likely.
- input_sh 1y ago
  That tells you nothing about their operating expenses (I'd bet they're operating in the red), and if you divide that by their cheapest available plan, that's at most 1.5 million paying users (probably way less).
- mythz 1y ago
  Yep it's off to a great start with its early mover advantage but IMO their days on top are numbered with every major player behind the premier coding models (and major IDE vendors) iterating hard on their own integrated AI coding agents, after which I suspect Cursor's choice for using a proprietary IDE is going to look dated.
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CafeRacer 1y ago

I've given up on cursor a while back. Too many updates, sometimes if produces shit when you don't need it to react at all, and sometimes for simple really useful autocompletions it hangs for a long time making snippets way more approachable. Overall, I am having hard time with code autocompletion in IDE. I am using Claude desktop to search for information and bounce off ideas, but having it directly in IDE – I find it too disturbing. Also there is this whole ordeal with VSCode Marketplace no longer available in Cursor. I'm not saying AI in IDE is bad, it's just I personally can't get into it to actually feel more productive.

mritchie712 1y ago

They show a Devin style slack app[0] in the video but there's not mention of it anywhere else. Does anyone have it installed? 0 - https://x.com/thisritchie/status/1930598413587959827 https://x.com/thisritchie/status/1930598413587959827

tuesdaynight 1y ago

I trust that Claude Code is good, and I believe that most people commenting here are truthful to their experiences. However, I have a strange feeling that companies are using bots on these announcements comments. Maybe I'm being overcautious, but one of the worst things (for me) that came from the AI rush of these past years is this feeling that everything is full of bots. I know that people have preferences, but I feel that I cannot trust anymore that a specific review was really made by a human. I know that this is not something new, but LLMs take it to the next level for me.

pembrook 1y ago
Totally agree, but that said, I just fired up Cursor on a paid account and after a few chats immediately hit the same issue I've been facing for weeks: 'Connection failed. If the problem persists, please check your internet connection or VPN' I've contacted support and they have been no help. You can see tons of people having this issue in user forums. Meanwhile, bypassing the giant monstrosity that is VScode (and then a Cursor as a fork on top of it) gives me no such issues. So I wouldn't be so dismissive that anyone frustrated with Cursor is a bot.
- Jenk 1y ago
  > So I wouldn't be so dismissive that anyone frustrated with Cursor is a bot. Not GP, but my suspicions are actually of the other end of the spectrum - i.e., it's the glowing reviews of AI things that make my bot-sense tingle. Though I usually settle on the idea that they (the reviewers) are using LLMs to write/refine their reviews.
- verelo 1y ago
  I’ve hit this error many times. Oddly closing and reopening cursor typically fixes it…
rgbrenner 1y ago
All of these reviews are irrelevant anyway because of the variations in the problems, skillset, project attributes (size, structure, etc), human variations in prompting, and a million other reasons. You should just set aside some time to try out different tools and see if you agree there's an improvement. For trying models, OpenRouter is a big time saver.

rgbrenner 1y ago

Recently canceled cursor. I think there's a shift happening right now with the improvements in the ability to process large context sizes and stay on task: Traditional code editing -> autocomplete -> file editing -> agent mode This is basically a gradient of AI output sizes. Initially, with the ability to generate small snippets (autocomplete), and moving up to larger and larger edits across the codebase. Cursor represents the initial step of AI-assisted traditional coding... but agent mode is reliable now, and can be directed fairly consistently to produce decent output, even in monorepos (IME). Once the output is produced by the agent, Ive found I prefer minimal to no AI for refining it and cleaning it up. The development techniques are different. In agent mode, there's far more focus on structuring the project, context, and prompts.. which doesn't happen as much in the ai-autocomplete development flow. Once this process shift happened in my workflow, the autocomplete became virtually unused. So I think this shift toward larger outputs favors agent-focused tools like CC, Aider, Cline, and RooCode (my personal favorite).. over more traditional interfaces with ai-assistance.

jjice 1y ago
If they're small corrections, I generally agree that manual changes are the easier solution. I have been recently trying to correct it and then having it generate a Cursor rule to tell itself to avoid that initial mistake (style and structure situations) in the future. Doesn't always work out, but it's handy when it does.
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weego 1y ago
Yes, my initial distrust lead me to believe that I should only trust whatever ai agent it is to handle the granular issues in code. But they're fundamentally bad at it unless you spend more time prompting and re-prompting than a human with the right context would spend doing it properly. Now I've changed my technical planning phase to write in a prompt-friendly way, so I can get AI to bootstrap, structure, boilerplate and usually also do the database setup and service layer, so I can jump right into actually writing the granular logic. It doesn't save me planning or logic overhead, but it does give me far more momentum at the start of a project, which is a massive win.

gwhr 1y ago

I've been using Cursor since they merged with Supermaven, but I'm concerned with how they handle controversial feedback on their subreddit. Recently, there was a post with detailed evidence suggesting Cursor was intentionally throttling requests [1], including reverse engineering and reproducible behaviors. The team initially responded with a "happy to follow up", but later removed their replies that got downvoted, and banned the OP from posting further updates. Their response sounded AI-generated too, which wasn't very surprising based on the way they handle customer support [2]. I wish they were more open to criticism instead of only claiming to be transparent. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/cursor/comments/1kqj7n3/cursor_intentionally_slowing_nonfast_requests/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cursor/comments/1kqj7n3/cursor_inte... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43700931 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43700931

vladstudio 1y ago

I must mention https://ampcode.com/manual https://ampcode.com/manual which is my favorite toy of them all right now. Has almost no settings; uses Claude 4, no way to change model; just works! (Unfortunately, not a paid comment.)

nxobject 1y ago
A small thing, but I appreciate their free trial usage "starter pack" - the landscape of SWE assistance tools is pretty large these days, and it's impossible to assess fit for the use cases you're interested in without trials. As much as all the positive feedback and/or hype about Anthropic's product is tempting, for hobbyist use I can't quite justify shelling $20 out of the box. (That's to say I can't bill it to someone paying me...)
cheema33 1y ago
You forgot to say what the primary benefit is. Because it lacks controls? I can see how some might consider that a plus.
- vladstudio 1y ago
  Yes, something like that. As probably many of you, I spent way too much time switching between agentic apps, switching between models inside these apps, and tweaking system prompts for these models. When Ampcode took it all away from me, I found I enjoyed the actual AI-assisted coding much more than configuring. Of course, largely because it just worked. Granted, I had enough experience with other AI tools to manage my expectations.
  - kanwisher 1y ago
    I still have zero idea what this does, I went to website. I use cursor, and 5 llms. you need to really tighten your marketing message
swah 1y ago
The vibes are on point... I guess looking like Perplexity, right? But for the way I'm using Cursor, I guess the flow is harder? I want to make smallish edits (review code, improve function)

blackhaj7 1y ago

Absolutely hate the scammy dark pattern they introduced in the latest update by hiding the close button on the chat and defaulting the expensive, pay-per-use Max mode to on. Cursor a lot of respect from our dev team if todays slack messages are anything to go by

ashleynewman 1y ago

Lots of comments here are so unrelated to the release, just people complaining about how they don’t like cursor because it’s a fork of VSCode… I’m particularly interested in the release of BugBot. The docs mention it looks at diffs but I hope it’s also scanning through the repository and utilizing full context. Requesting copilot to do a review does the same thing but because it’s only looking at diffs the feedback it provides is pretty useless, mainly just things that a linter could catch.

jimrandomh 1y ago

I tried Cursor, and will occasionally switch into it, but I'm having a hard time using it because its relationship to extensions (particularly extensions that the user develops and sideloads) is badly broken. I tried doing minor customization (forking the vim plugin from the github version, creating a vscode hello-world-style plugin), and while everything worked in VsCode, transferring those plugins into Cursor did not. There was no documentation for plugins in Cursor, you just had to hope that things were similar-enough to VsCode. And then they failed to load with no debugging leads. I think this is an artifact of Cursor being a closed-source fork of an open-source project, with a plugin architecture that's heavily reliant on the IDE at least being source-available. And, frankly, taking an open-source project like VsCode and commercializing it without even making it source-available is a dishonorable thing to do, and I'm rooting against them.

MichaelZuo 1y ago
That does seem a bit shady… is there really still no documentation on this after they’ve raised so much money?

GiorgioG 1y ago

And for months now Cursor on Windows loves to run a 'q' command which doesn't fucking exist..so every time it executes a command line command I get this: C:\projects\my_project>q^D^C 'q' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. 1.0 my ass.

make3 1y ago
this is not super constructive, is it really the top comment on HN
- Philpax 1y ago
  The sort order biases towards newer posts.
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- consumer451 1y ago
  In many cases the most recent comment is put on top, so it doesn't get buried at the bottom. That priority diminishes as the minutes pass.

loa_observer 1y ago

I am building a jupyter native code agent that interact with jupyter kernel better and can understand data, charts, etc. Not just read/edit jupyter files. video demo here, https://x.com/ob12er/status/1930439669130637482?s=46&t=2jNrjJ3DLketuo6TTa56oQ https://x.com/ob12er/status/1930439669130637482?s=46&t=2jNrj...

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sidgarimella 1y ago

I myself run five IDE's in parallel with ~ 6 terminal sessions all on Claude Code. There's a time and place for each tool. Also, thanks to my Neuralink, I have Linear and Azure MCP's wired directly into my frontal cortex at all times. This makes it really easy to keep our docs up to date without lifting a finger.

metaltyphoon 1y ago
Man… you got me good in the first half.

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tomerbd 1y ago

In the recent month VSCode has been catching up fast, I think sooner than later VSCode Copilot will be better than alternatives.

toastercat 1y ago

I've only tried Cursor superficially for 10 minutes. I admit I've kept my head in the sand during this AI boom for the most part. I'm curious from people in this thread: * Are you using Cursor as your main editor? * For more senior engineers -- is it really that much of a productivity boost? * Is the primary use of an AI editor like Cursor to handle more tedious tasks? Ex: generate an array with all the months, write some unit tests for me for some simple component, write some boilerplate code for me, etc.