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Business books are entertainment, not strategic tools
- peterlk 1y agoI think there are maybe 5 business books out there. I’m not sure how exactly I’d define the 5 different business books, but I think of you read 10-15 business books you’ve pretty much read them all. After a while, they all start boiling down to the same few points with differences in narrative content. If I were to take an unconsidered stab at a few of them: hard work + luck is about the closest formula anyone has found for success if applied over long time periods; you have to be disagreeable and believe in yourself, but not so disagreeable that you can’t get along with anyone; people are important, and treating them well leads to better businesses (over long time periods); sometimes you get dealt a bad hand.
- Esophagus4 1y agoThanks, you just saved me half of my reading list!
- calmbonsai 1y agoI would also add taking steps to "increase luck surface area". One can't control luck and luck is, unfortunately, essential, but one can increase the opportunities for luck to play its part.
- airstrike 1y agoone corollary is that "proximity is power". being around people who are successful increases the chances that you will be successful. easier said than done, however.
- dentemple 1y agoDon't forget the tried-and-true "Don't sell to your customers; listen for their actual needs" advice that's repeated ad nauseum in a thousand different ways by B2B experts who claim to have "cracked the code" to increasing sales.
- turnsout 1y agoIt's repeated because so few people actually talk to customers and meaningfully listen to them… But you're right, it has become overused. An interesting counterpoint to "listen to your customers" is The Innovator's Dilemma, which details how increasing profit and producing a better product for your customers can sometimes make a company vulnerable to disruption.
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- mgw 1y agoWhere does the point of being disagreeable come from and what purpose does it serve in the business world, in your opinion or according to these books?
- anself 1y agoYou need at least one or two somewhat disagreeable folks in a team. Because without this, groupthink emerges, teams have too much inertia, they follow the assumed norm instead of challenging it for something better, they don’t debate the options enough. That disagreeable energy, in the right dose, leads to better decisions. If you don’t have it naturally, you can encourage someone to “play devil’s advocate” in decision discussions (or do it yourself) and you’ll find sometimes the devil’s advocate is actually right.
- hackflip 1y agoDisagreeable people are insurance policies. When the group is right, they are a drag. When the group is wrong, they are necessary.
- JohnnyHerz 1y agoWhile there is certainly a lot of crap out there for business books, especially on sales/marketing and management, there are some core books that are must reads if you want to save 30 years of trial and error. 1. E-myth Revisited (absolute must read for small to midsize business owners) 2. Competitive Strategy 3. Discipline of Market Leaders 4. Good to Great 5. Built to Last
- 121789 1y agoGood to great and built to last are just classic survivorship bias in book form. They are interesting as history books but not as actual analysis. They are fun reads but not to be taken seriously
- calmbonsai 1y agoI disagree on "Good to Great" and "Built to Last". In hindsight, they're classic extrapolations of survivorship-bias in a specific era of business instead of durable business practices. It should be more accurately titled as "Built to Fail" considering how those profiled companies have faltered or floundered. I highly recommend Buffett's letters to shareholders https://a.co/d/cc1ufM4 https://a.co/d/cc1ufM4 and Goldratt's "The Goal" https://a.co/d/iJjTf1y https://a.co/d/iJjTf1y and Taleb's "Antifragile" https://a.co/d/4bjC74J https://a.co/d/4bjC74J . Aside from his mathematical treatment's of uncertainty (which are free), I wouldn't recommend any of Teleb's other books. "Let My People Go Surfing" https://a.co/d/2hq7ngp https://a.co/d/2hq7ngp doesn't work for all business, but I really found it personally inspirational.
- pbh101 1y agoFor me: - the goal - 5 dysfunctions of a team - the first 90 days A friend swears by: - atomic habits - seven habits of highly effective people (Slightly different genre but quite close)
- calmbonsai 1y agoOooooh! I forgot about Atomic Habits. It's not only one of the best "business books" I've ever read. It's the single best "self-help" book I've ever read. I disagree on "Seven Habits" as its model of "effectiveness" is only applicable to (for lack of a better term) extroverted vocations.
- rodolphoarruda 1y agoIt may be a waste of time if you had lived long enough to experience vividly the ins and outs of the business world. Taking an extreme example, senior execs who had "climbed from the bottom" in international companies. These people have seen/lived a lot, so no business book can really impress them or show something they haven't already seen. On the flip side, there is a high number of young people eager to learn how things work in the business world, but they don't want to experience everything, every failure, the ups and downs, they want to cut corners. I think for that kind of people business books can add some value, especially the biographical ones. It doesn't need to be the biography of a CEO (e.g. Jobs'). The life story of a great salesperson can change your mindset forever.
- bpmct 1y agoYep. From the perspective of someone earlier in their career without all the "lived experience": Business books have helped me feel closer with (and better emphasize with) senior execs. I'm not necessarily trying to cut corners, but it helps in situations where I am expected to be a peer to folks who have been working much longer than I have. Business books are definitely not a perfect substitute for lived experience or having a mentor, but they have certainly helped me.
- d_silin 1y ago"An ounce of practice beats a pound of theory, but a pound of practice needs an ounce of theory." Valid for any domain for book knowledge vs practical experience.
- s0rr0wskill 1y agothis is true for pretty much anything in life honestly
- firesteelrain 1y agoYou could probably put books like Team Topologies, Accelerate, and The Phoenix Project in the same boat with this list of business entertainment set of books and arguably the DevOps Handbook too
- pbh101 1y agoFamiliar more with the first two and going to suggest there is a distinction between those and the phenomenon originally described in the thread (having read some others too) Reven that being said, there could be value in those ‘repeat’ books inasmuch as one framing/telling may resonate with some more than others and get the message through, even if same message through multiple books.
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- rfarley04 1y agoFeels like it's the act of meditating on making things better, brought about by reading some unscientific and generally unimportant "framework" that matters more than the framework itself. Business books just force certain people to keep business improvement higher on their awareness. People who can keep that meditation high on their list without the books don't need the books.
- hinkley 1y agoI made a transition about fifteen years ago to reading some books to review them in case someone asks me for a recommendation Preaching to the choir is still practice, and the choir learns new ways to say the same thing. It’s not completely useless.
- redeux 1y agoThere are plenty of great business books out there that aren't pop business books. For every critique listed there's a corresponding book that covers the topic. I hope people don't expect to get an MBA's worth of content from a single book. Business is a subject that can be taught in schools or learned through self-study - either requires time and dedication. Whichever method you choose, you'll still need real-world experience to master it.
- jibal 1y agoBottom line: entrepreneurs writing books are trying to make a buck off of readers.
- abetaha 1y agoI am always amazed how most business book authors take a simple idea that could be described in one page, and turn it into a 200+ page book with popularizing narrative. What's more amazing is that the ideas are usually commonsense, but due to human nature are seldom practiced.
- jeron 1y agoNaval has said most books could be essays and most essays could be tweets
- dmos62 1y agoWhat could tweets be?
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- BlueTemplar 1y agoInsert lazy joke about how the whole of Xitter could be condensed into a single poo emoji. EDIT : Something related but slightly less wasteful of your time : Carmen by Stromae : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKftOH54iNU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKftOH54iNU
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- tiffanyh 1y agoI’d say most books period, not just business books - could be shortened to just a couple of pages.
- bsder 1y agoAnd are often complete fiction. See: In Search of Excellence
- 8note 1y agoi think of books like * the secret life of groceries * omnivore's dillema * toy story * the box as business books. they have a bunch of case studies and union politics and a general idea theyre trying to convey. without industry experience, i wouldnt conceive that there's an occupation of "buyer" or what it is they do, without having read those books.
- BeetleB 1y agoMost popular nonfiction is entertainment. When I realized this I went back to reading fiction. The quality of entertainment is so much better!
- garrickvanburen 1y agoI’m always hesitant to drag books written in a different era through today’s sensibilities. For all the complaints of these books today (and I’ve complained about Lean Startup as recently as Dec 2024) these were written in a different time and likely written about tactics obsolete at the time of publication. Let’s allow them to be artifacts of their time.
- motoxpro 1y agoI have the complete opposite take to the person who wrote this article. Most business books are collections of experiences with the takeaways that a person had based on those experiences, whether strategy, market dynamics of the time, unique insight, etc. It's the readers job to understand and apply what is applicable to their situation. To say the study of past history is unless because businesses are no longer doing great is crazy. That would be like an athlete saying Tiger Woods' golf swing advice is no longer relevant because he was only good in hindsight, and he can't do it anymore. Every single "counterexample" in this article is just hindsight, which, ironically, is the article's argument for why business books are useless. They just wrote their own survivorship-biased article version of one. It's only now that we realize that AirBnb would cannibalize the hotel business. If people had known that before, they wouldn't have had trouble raising money. Replacing a Ritz Carlton AND a Holiday Inn with a random person's home was so far from obvious. It's only now that we realize that Stripe was focused on years of operational excellence and not a gimmick of "take payments with 7 lines of code." Replace it with AI and you have a tangential version of the tagline on every SaaS company's homepage today. It's only now that Apple has the product experience to not build MVPs where, before, they were about to go bankrupt doing the same thing. The "mistakes" the person made were all covered in the books they read. And all of the things they say they wanted are tactical (LTV:CAC, Incentive Design, Churn, etc.), which makes sense as they are a quant. I would have more respect if people who bash business books could have called all of the "counterexamples" this person gave (which would mean they would be billionaires) or could call the current day examples that will not be true in 15 years by putting their money behind them OR their businesses go on to be successful (by whatever metric you want) for the next 20 years. It's just not that easy, there are no silver bullets, but it's useful to study what has already been done.
- ghaff 1y agoThe problem I have with this book could be a short article is that the actual stories are often useful. I don't disagree in general that a lot of these books could be 100 pages rather than 300 pages but I'm also not sure they could be magazine articles even if their core content could probably fit in that space.
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- adamgordonbell 1y agoSpicy take: read the narrative non-fiction business books. They are written for entertainment and sit in the business section but you can learn things. barbarians at the gate when genius failed bad blood billion dollar whale chaos monkey liars poker shoe dog american kingping broken code soul of a new machine and so on. There is nothing wrong with entertainment and since these are usually written by journalists or professional writers, the writing is often better.
- milkshakes 1y agodon't forget the smartest guys in the room
- sam1r 1y agoThank you so much for this list composition.
- wilkystyle 1y agoBethany McLean is great. I also enjoyed "All The Devils Are Here"
- JSR_FDED 1y agoAgree. This is a great list. I’ve read 7 of them and frequently remember actionable anecdotes, whereas I hardly remember the key point from “serious” business books.
- 9dev 1y agoAnd that makes perfect sense. There’s a reason why we tell children social norms via fairy tales and monster stories; humans are very susceptible to a good tale, those tend to stick in your brain like little else.
- georgeecollins 1y agoGreat list! If you are interested in complicated deals I strongly recommend Eccentric Orbits, about the Iridium satellite network. Its a real page turner. Also perhaps House of Krupp, though that one is a bit dark.
- unmole 1y agoI'd extend it to business news.
- morsecodist 1y agoI totally agree with the sentiment. I am pretty skeptical of this sort of broad advice. People who achieve success did so under specific conditions. It is unclear which aspects of their strategy are universal and which were only effective under their conditions. Advice based on a broader survey of examples may be a bit better but we need to be honest about how hard it is to extract meaningful insights from this sort of thing. Even something like the time period you picked your examples from has huge implications for what you are studying.
- MantisShrimp90 1y agoThank you, most of these books are actively harmful, and the lack of intellectual rigor makes them exactly this, entertainment masquerading as education. What matters is humility, thoughtfulness, and a relentless focus on quality. These books sell to people that want all of the inspiration with none of the work.
- deepsquirrelnet 1y agoHaving come up through hard sciences, I don’t ever know what to do with these kinds of books. If they were written as memoirs, then that’s a different story. That’s all they usually are, but they’re presented in more of an educational/instructional context, yet are devoid of rigor. I’ve had ‘Running Things’ on my shelf for quite a while, but just don’t feel compelled to read it. To me it’s just a weird genre. Slightly dishonest or something.
- drob518 1y agoA better title to this would have been “MOST Business Books are Entertainment, Not Strategic Tools.” Certainly, there are the fad books that are useless, but some are quite good and useful. In addition to Good to Great, I’d also include Crossing the Chasm, the Innovator’s Dilemma, Positioning, and The Culting of Brands. The fact that the author recommends four books at the end shows he really doesn’t believe his own title.
- thecaio 1y agoI get it and don’t disagree but isn’t this being too literal? At the limit, isn’t this expecting author to be overly precious with the title? I mean, I could as well ask author to state a precise statistic like “93.76% of business books are entertainment”
- Lienetic 1y agoCan anyone share some examples they think are strategic tools? I've read a solid number of these and am genuinely interested.
- rahimnathwani 1y agoSome of the business books that I always keep within easy reach of my desk: - High output management - The hard thing about hard things - The Great CEO Within - Who - a method for hiring (I've also bought and given away multiple copies of each of these books.)
- timewizard 1y agoNuh uh. I got Gary V's new book, Day Trading Attention: How to Actually Build Brand and Sales in the New Social Media World, on my shelf and it is my new bible! The secret has been unlocked and given to me. For just $19.99. Why can't you believe it?! Why can't you just be _happy_ for me, for once?!
- WoodenChair 1y agoI've read over 100 business books. Why? Because I enjoy the genre and its many sub-genres. From both an entertainment and a practical perspective. And that's also why I co-host the podcast Business Books & Co. [0]. In my opinion, the author of this post is correct about his criticisms of the specific books in the post (we did several of them on the show). Many business books overly generalize, are not empirically rigorous, and are better seen as anecdotal and/or entertainment. But you also need to understand that "business books" is a very broad category that includes many sub-genres like entrepreneurial storytelling (Shoe Dog), "big idea" books (Zero to One), career up-skilling (Radical Candor), economic history (Titan), and self-help (How to Win Friends and Influence People). Many of these cross over into non-business genres as well. So, in some sense the author here is doing the same kind of over-generalization that many of the books do. He's mostly speaking about the "big idea" books as if those are the whole genre. What is a business book? It's ill-defined but I think there are many great ones outside the "big idea" space. For example, we just interviewed John Romero on the show to discuss his 2023 autobiography Doom Guy[1]. In my opinion, it is absolutely a wonderful business book from the entrepreneurial storytelling sub-genre. But it doesn't fit the mold that this post talks about. 0: http://businessbooksandco.com http://businessbooksandco.com 1: https://pnc.st/s/business-books/e9076f47/doom-guy-with-john-romero https://pnc.st/s/business-books/e9076f47/doom-guy-with-john-...
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- baxtr 1y agoYes agree! They are really bad, superficial, one-idea-books. These are those the author highlights. He himself gives a list of good books to read at the end of the article. So I think the title is a nice click bait.
- lazyasciiart 1y agoI enjoy “business fables” like The Goal or The Phoenix Project. Since you must know a fair chunk of the business books - any other good ones in this genre?
- timoth3y 1y agoThere is also a strong signaling effect. For better or worse, which books people are reading (or say they are reading) is often used to determine which "camp" they belong to. People who took the time to read Musk's biography are viewed slightly differently than those who chose not to. IRL, discussions of the contents and ideas tend to be superficial. When I'm asked what books I'm reading, I always answer honestly, but rarely mention a title that's been published in the last 30 years or so. For some reason, people seem to be more comfortable deeply discussing older works.
- OtherShrezzing 1y agoMost books published aren’t worth the readers time. After 30 years, there’s been some distillation, and the ones still in popular culture are higher quality. You have deeper discussions about older books because the median surviving older book is more worthy of discussion than the median new book.
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- PeeMcGee 1y agoThe mere concept of a "business book" seems like hamfisted satire. It blows my mind how so many white collar workers genuinely entertain the concept in the first place.
- WheelsAtLarge 1y agoMost books are read for entertainment. I've known many people who have read tons of books but couldn't remember most of what they've read. Every once in a while, a book sparks some interest but most will be read for entertainment. I used to think that a well-read individual was a well informed and smart. No, they just read books for entertainment. It's not a bad thing but let's be clear about that. It's just entertainment.
- s0rr0wskill 1y agothis is me with media in general i cant remember much of anything i consume
- nazgul17 1y agoTrue, but books are also valuable for the subtle ways in which they change you, not just for what you remember.
- WheelsAtLarge 1y agoYou can say the same about movies and documentaries. Why is a book any different? Yes, books have the power to change you but like anything you have to put in the time to study it and put it into practice. Reading a ton of them and hoping they will change you by osmosis does nothing more than keep your mind busy.
- f4 1y agoI agree with you, however, there is a difference between being well-ready and widely-read. I think one who can recite the essence of a handful of books has more much to say than someone who can list 50 books they read last year.
- maerch 1y agoReading a lot isn’t just about storing and recalling information—it’s also about shaping the way you think. The same goes for education. If I measured the value of my university years solely by the information I can still recall, I’d consider them rather inefficient. But the real value lay in learning how to learn and how to think through complex problems.
- s0rr0wskill 1y agoaction > over everything you can read a million business books and know less compared to if you just did the thing you were reading about even if you failed
- _uoud 1y agoThis is very similar to the ”boundary condition” for the scientific method and the craziness of ”teaching business” in schools. I wrote my thoughts too about this at some point: https://sentience.lostbookofsales.com/essays/scientific-method/ https://sentience.lostbookofsales.com/essays/scientific-meth...
- breppp 1y ago> Skips the part that Peter Thiel was already in the top 1% of the population—Stanford-educated, ex-Credit Suisse, and founder of a small capital firm—before PayPal. He wasn’t a struggling outsider with nothing to lose. His advice is filtered through a lens of early privilege and structural advantage. > The book wraps fatalism in edgy language and markets it as practical wisdom First the author embraces fatalism, then criticizes fatalism. I guess only one kind is fashionable
- monkeyelite 1y agoAnd nowhere does zero to one claim to be a book for the every-man. If you’re serious about start ups you probably have job and educational options. In fact, the book talks about Theil’s experience of almost becoming a Supreme Court clerk. This article is more reductive and off the mark than the content it wants to criticize.
- ZeroTalent 1y agoTrue. He didn't get everything right, but at least it's not 300 pages long ;)
- monkeyelite 1y agoAny essay from that book is more concise and more insightful than this substack. The only reason people are commenting is to share their dislike of some business book they read - that’s why nobody is quoting the actual article.
- jgm22 1y agoI've read at-least 4-6 books related to startups, business, habit building etc.. Majority of them could be a blog or few blogs. Sometime I skim through most of the pages to avoid the repetition of the concepts.
- anself 1y agoAgree - but The Goal (Eliyahu Goldratt) is a rare exception to this. It’s written as a novel but actually contains valuable and counterintuitive lessons about optimizing for efficiency in a complex delivery process. Worth every page
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- rednafi 1y agoOne thing that’s common in most business and productivity books is that they use an awful lot of words to say things that either don’t mean much or aren’t really replicable. Ton of nonfiction books suffer from the same issue and could easily just be a blog post. I still read them now and then because I figure it’s better to read Mark Manson than scroll through TikTok or get sucked into some other Gen Z brainrot.
- IshKebab 1y ago> Airbnb didn’t invent a new concept—it executed better within an existing space. Uhm did it not? If anything it invented two new concepts - paid couch surfing (which it turns out people didn't really want) and unofficial ad-hoc holiday rentals (which people really want). I'm nitpicking - overall the article is spot on and I'm glad this is getting called out.
- Wilder7977 1y agoAre those new "concepts"? Uber for your house seems all. Effectively every single business in the gig economy has been rehashing the same concept trying to commodify every aspect of the human experience by inserting a platform as an alternative to a regulated market (or no market at all).
- IshKebab 1y agoYeah definitely. There was no way you could rent out your house before Airbnb. Uber for X is a new concept if nobody has done it before. Sure you can say it's obvious but most business ideas are, especially in hindsight. The idea is the easy part.
- ElFitz 1y agoThere’s one business book I’ve actually enjoyed reading and somehow learned more from years after reading it than while reading it: Business Adventures. It’s a bit silly, doesn’t pretend to be a guide, provide any wise advice of any sort, and certainly not to have the one grandiose radical new idea that will solve all your problems™. But perhaps that’s why it works so well.
- jaytyagi 1y agoNot to mention that the article is written using ChatGPT with run-of-the-mill (although still valid) critique of the works cited.
- helloplanets 1y agoYep. This article reads exactly like one shotting ChatGPT. The bullet points are a dead giveaway. https://chatgpt.com/share/681f1529-2f48-800e-9325-e1adee752162 https://chatgpt.com/share/681f1529-2f48-800e-9325-e1adee7521...
- immibis 1y agoCorrect: the article has not been written, and therefore, need not be read.
- hedayet 1y agoI agree with the principle. Most books in the case study section fall into what I’d call the “self-help-business” category. They’re comforting reads, especially when work isn’t going well. You don’t necessarily turn to them for strategy, but for a boost of optimism or a mental reset, with a dash of hope. For strategy and execution, I look to Harvard Business Review. Its detailed case studies, frameworks, and exercises address the operational complexities that don’t translate well to mass-market books, which often skip them. They’re dry and time-intensive, but invaluable when you're looking to build real strategic and operational skills.
- titaphraz 1y agoThe main theme is survivorship bias: https://xkcd.com/1827/ https://xkcd.com/1827/ There's nothing wrong with telling your story in a book. But telling it as a half truth is just as bad a lying.
- koliber 1y agoI believe that almost every single thing you read has some worthwhile knowledge or wisdom, as well as a slew of material that is wrong or irrelevant or based on values that I don't carry. This includes books, blog posts, and sometimes even short form social media posts. The key is to read with an open mind BUT don't blindly take everything as gospel. Ask yourself "is this surprising?", or "is this new?" and filter it through the "does this apply to me now?" or "is the person who is saying this worth listening to?". Throwing out any entire book is shortsighted. Even "bad" books have nuggets of wisdom or new ideas or concepts. Not everything applies to your situation. Some things might apply now. Some things might apply at some point in the future, and having read the book you have an arsenal ready to be deployed when the time comes. Some things will never apply. If I read a book and have one new original perspective or "aha" moment, it's a net positive.
- Etheryte 1y agoThis is true, nearly every book has at least some useful or insightful bits, but our time is limited. If you're reading one book that's mostly uninteresting, you're also not reading all the other books that you could be reading instead. Now I'm not advocating for minmaxing your life down to the point of insanity, but I do think it's sensible to try and pick up good books over bad books — whatever that means to you.
- koliber 1y agoThat's an excellent point. The last part is most important: whatever that means to you. I've read books that I thought were great at presenting some key concept. Other people would disagree. The key thing is that different people perceive and absorb information in different ways, no one book will appeal to everyone.
- m_a_g 1y agoSorry to be blunt, but this is not a good take at all, because of one simple fact; time is limited. What you’re saying basically translates to “read everything”.
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- TZubiri 1y agoThoughts on Hormozi's 100m offers?
- sanswork 1y agoBoring and a slog to read. It was a few years back but I don't remember a single interesting take away(I've read hundreds of business books and most I can think of one or two good ideas from). It made me go from someone that thought he was interesting to someone that actively avoids his content.
- tome 1y ago> Read no business books. Read Sun Tzu and Thucydides. They were contemporaries a world apart from one another and 25 centuries apart from us, yet no modern quarrel nor accomplishment escapes their analysis. Tim Sweeney https://x.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1610103077599674368 https://x.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1610103077599674368 Tim Sweeney has just won one of the rounds in his own version of the Peloponnesian war. I ended up listening to Kenneth W. Harl's "Great Courses" lecture series on The Peloponnesian War and it was mind blowing. One of the best lecture series I've ever listened to.
- SZJX 1y agoYou can always come up with criticism for anything. Do they deliver some interesting ideas (while understandably they might oversimplify some other aspects) and are not complete frauds? If so there is some value in them.
- nottorp 1y agoHe forgets to mention that most books that promise to improve you at "something" could have been a great 2 kilobyte forum post. The business model is similar to Netflix: take a possibly decent idea and expand it to 5 boring seasons.
- kevinh456 1y agoHow did this ai written crap get so far up on hacker news.
- jjude 1y agoHaving read hundreds of books over 25 years, here’s what I think about business books: - To understand some domain you need knowledge + insights + discernment. Books give you knowledge. Only when you apply you will get discernment. When you apply you will get specific questions which then triggers seeking more knowledge. - Every book is a map. It leaves out a lot so readers can understand the domain. If your interest align with that map, you'll find the book useful. Otherwise it turns out to be a fluff - Most books could be a tweet (directive). Once you understand something, it could be expressed as a directive. Until then, you need stories, explanations, and nuance. - Jesus' command: love God and love others is a short directive of Ten commandments, which in themselves are condensed directives of the Bible. When we hear only the directive, we lose the context and we misunderstand. That's where stories come into play. Tim Ferriss' "4 hour week" makes sense when you read all the stories (playbooks, delegations etc). You leave all of that out, "4 hour week" is a (misunderstood) crap. - Don't read recently published books. wait at least until 5 years. Let it be looked at it from all angles. Then read it. - If you want to learn emerging topic (like GenAI), don't read books. Join communities and learn from them. Like Perplexity community for GenAI. - Read practicing philosophers. When you want to learn swimming, learn from swimmers turned coach, not someone who stood by poolside and watched 10000 swimmers (like Jim Collins did) - Read annual letters to shareholders (by Warren Buffett, Jeff Bezos, Biglari ...). They have more signal than noise. I started writing a reply and it became lot bigger than I intended. So I blogged here: https://www.jjude.com/read-biz-books/ https://www.jjude.com/read-biz-books/
- veunes 1y agoA book doesn't have to be comprehensive to be useful, but knowing when and how to apply its lens is everything
- bdelmas 1y agoYep I think people just want the fast track to being rich and are not interested into putting the hours and the grind for it. There are amazing books out there but they are textbooks. 1000 pages long on a single subject, and people don't want that. But for the most part, that's where the real knowledge is. They would rather read 10-15 books on marketing rather than study and master a single textbook about marketing. Even when they don't have to master all of it and that would still give them more value and professional knowledge than reading all of these other books. I read my far share of business books and at some points I was seeing the edutainment behind it and the lack of value that from now on every time I search for a book I start by searching in the textbook section on Amazon not the book section.
- Funes- 1y agoMost books are junk entertainment, and not what they're, in fact, falsely purported to be. We live in the most insincere period in history thanks to the malign coupling of late stage capitalism and pervasive interconnectedness (smartphones and social media). Everything is simulacra, just an insincere monetization process. Sensationalism is our new God.
- gitroom 1y agoPretty cool seeing how folks argue over fluff vs depth in business books - tbh I struggle finishing most of them for this exact reason. you ever hit a book where one small story actually sticks with you way longer than all the big frameworks?
- hollowturtle 1y ago> These aren’t easy reads. > They require real cognitive effort. > But they offer lasting value. Here we go, that's the real problem today, the lack of focus and not being able anymore to invest cognitive effort in long lasting things. Everything was turning into a short/reel/tiktok already, add llms for quick answers to the formula and that's a perfect recipe for disaster
- ignoramous 1y ago> add llms for quick answers to the formula and that's a perfect recipe for disaster I understand some books are worth their weight in gold. The real worry is, now that LLMs can "deep search" & present larger reports, some of which I read religiously without gaining much for the time invested, I find myself preferring shorter answers. That is, the feedback mechanism (of larger LLM output being too verbose than being too substantive) is reinforcing rewards for shorter and shorter text spans. Then when I switch to reading long form articles, long instructional/educational videos, or book chapters, I have caught myself running out of patience and reaching for summarisation by LLMs (sometimes, when I've bothered to check the original source, LLMs have thoroughly misinterpreted or skipped key thesis/points... Kind of the reverse "miss the forest for the trees").
- intellectronica 1y ago1. Quality and information-density vary widely. The author of the post lists some of the least useful (but popular) business books, but there are better ones. The benchmark for me is does the book contains specific, actionable recommendations I can use to bootstrap how I do something I don't already know how to do well and want to get started. If it doesn't it really is just fluff. 2. Even if these books are not that rich in applicable advice, if you read the book and reflect on it and maybe 1% of it is relevant to you and results in some new ideas, is it not worth it? 3. All of these business books now have alternative, compressed representations on YouTube, podcasts, and blogs. Asking a chatbot to review a few of those and produce a summary is often more efficient than reading the book itself. Usually these books have enough content worth for a 3 pages long summary, not for an entire book. And of course you can also listen to an interview with the author or a review from a trustworthy critic, or watch a video.
- veunes 1y agoIt's not that all business books are worthless, but the article nails how so many are written more to inspire than to inform. They often flatten complex stories into digestible slogans, which can feel empowering in the moment but rarely translate into meaningful action.
- cainxinth 1y ago> In practice, customers buy based on utility and price, not ideology. That’s not always the case and it varies by sector. A lot of B2B firms may buy that way, but B2C transactions often have emotional or ideological drivers as well.
- christophilus 1y agoI hate business books with fluff in them. I’m not here to read your poem. On that note, my brother sent me a book called “Zero Down” by Roland Frasier. It was 75 pages, and not once did I think, “They should’ve trimmed the fat here.” That’s how these books should be written.
- ike2792 1y agoApple is actually a great example of the MVP concept working. The original iPhone had no front camera, a crappy back camera, a low quality screen, no App Store, and no copy/paste. What it had was a great “feel” and it was intuitive to use. They released it, gathered feedback, and iterated.
- insane_dreamer 1y agoI strongly dislike business books. Not because I'm disinterested in the topic or dislike the author, but because I'm put off by the presentation as having come up with some new magic formula (I did X and was successful, so all you need to do is X and you'll be successful too), when in fact 90% (95%? 99%?) of the time their success is due to a combination of luck, timing, common sense and perseverance (aka survivorship bias). I think my repulsion for these books also stems from how we attribute almost mythical status to some of these celebrity business leaders (i.e., Steve Jobs), to where when they do something that any reasonable and not-an-asshole person would do ("he said hello to me in the elevator!", "he wrote me a nice email!") we laud them with praise in amazement. I do admire what these people have accomplished, but the hero-worship is so off-putting that I have a hard time hearing the message.
- skwee357 1y agoBusiness books are like courses, master classes, etc. It’s just a way to make you feel better because you read something, and now you think you know how it works, but you don’t, so end up reading more and more of them. There should be a balance between reading and doing, i.e. consumption and production.
- ghaff 1y agoOne of the big problems in my experience is that strategies are often both interesting and useful. But the real results are very situational and depend on boots on the ground. I won't single out anyone in particular but I've definitely seen very sensible-seeming frameworks and approaches (which are hard to really argue with in the general case) that led to analyses that empirically turned out to be totally wrong for individual situations.
- primer42 1y agoMBAs are an entertainment degree, not a practical training for real organizations.
- insane_dreamer 1y agoI'd say they're a signaling and networking degree.
- chesterhunt20 1y agoIn my experience, I find that business books often lean more toward entertainment than providing actual strategic tools. While they can be a great source of inspiration and motivation, they don’t always offer the practical, data-driven strategies that you can directly apply to your business. I appreciate the stories and insights they provide, but I believe that true strategy comes from real-world experience, experimentation, and adapting to the unique needs of your business. Reading business books can certainly help me think differently or spark new ideas, but for actionable strategies, I usually rely more on hands-on experience, mentorship, and tools that are specifically tailored to my industry. There’s a time for inspiration, but when it comes to building something sustainable, it takes more than just theory.
- trentnix 1y ago> Reading "Business" Books Is A Waste Of Time Yes, but they are significantly less destructive than an MBA.
- SonOfLilit 1y agoI'm halfway through Feld and Mendelson's Venture Deals and earlier this year worked through Ittelson's Financial Statements. Having cofounded a startup that raised investor money before, I can state confidently that both are going to make me better at what I do next time I start something. Of course, they're not books about "what to do", just "how people do the basics". Which is harder because there's less ambiguity to hide behind. Sometimes my eyes glaze and I need to put them down and wait for a time when I have more energy.
- npilk 1y agoIf business books are just entertainment, then better to read more fiction!
- simplesolutionZ 1y agoWhen ever I read an article like this, claming one perspective and interpretation of content. I always remember that everyone has different minds and different ways they make connections between concepts and understanding in their brains. Thats why we don't have a single narrative on how to create understanding of any concept. It's quite sad, I feel sad for the author for his lack of intelectual discovery.
- hn30000 1y agoThe only business book I’ve read is that one about management by the CEO of Intel (I forget the name). It helped me a lot with my first big corporate client because until then I had only worked at startups and small businesses. I literally didn’t understand what the purpose of meetings was, etc. Anyway, I haven’t been compelled to pick up any other business books as most of the popular ones seem like self/help books.
- altilunium 1y agoI thought "Personal Interlude: Lessons From My Quant Trenches" was just another business book title ready to be criticized. I wondered why the formatting was different on this one, then I slowly realized it wasn’t a business book title at all.
- aerhardt 1y agoBusiness books and self-help books are for the most part utter garbage and you are possibly going to generate more economic value for your business or your career by reading Vargas Llosa or Tolstoy than by reading all that airport drivel.
- hliyan 1y agoThere's another, similar genre of non-fiction books: Sapiens, Outliers etc. I notice these tend to be unusually popular with people who have too short an attention span to absorb knowledge rigorously (e.g. high net-worth individuals), and would rather prefer it be weaved into a narrative, even at the cost of some accuracy. Bonus if the narrative confirms their preconceived notions. For a while, I myself was guilty of consuming both these and business books. I still occasionally read them, but now I recognise them as entertainment and am under no illusion about rigour or practical application.
- lurk2 1y ago> I notice these tend to be unusually popular with people who have too short an attention span to absorb knowledge rigorously Airport literature.
- rodolphoarruda 1y agoThose books switch reader's nob one click up, so they become 1% more informed than the average who haven't read the same content (yet). That 1% looks/sounds incredibly a lot more. "OMG, he said neanderthals and homo-sapiens coexisted somewhere in time. What a genius!". This kind of reaction.
- theturtle32 1y agoFinally, someone putting into words what I have felt intuitively ever since the concept of an "MVP" and the obsession around A/B testing came into vogue. The quotes that most resonated with me: --- The MVP concept is often overused to justify low-quality products. Metrics are treated as precise guides without accounting for interpretation or strategy. --- When I entered the startup world, I mistakenly followed the MVP playbook. We launched too early, misread feedback, and ended up iterating around noise. What saved the company wasn’t lean methodology. It was building something so good that users couldn’t ignore it. I’ve hired engineers who were obsessed with quality and passed on candidates with vague “passion.”
- poobear22 1y agoI read so many business books, and they are hard to get rid of after you have amassed a large collection of several hundred. On reflection, many seem like crap, or maybe a good few points what could be summarized in a few pages but somehow turned into a long book. I'm still glad I read them, and the jewels have always made it worth the adventure. I really like looking back at the discredited books I've read and in hindsight, asked myself how I was fooled at the time in not detecting the the weaknesses in the books. It has always been a point of reflection to improve these detection skills when reading new material. For me, at the time of reading, the books: "In Search of Excellence" and "Think and Grow Rich" seemed great, but in hindsight, "What was I thinking".
- wespiser_2018 1y agoI'm not opposed to business books. It's true that most of them are in narrative form and try to extract anecdotal lessons into broad strategy, but I've found them useful for framing my own thinking about teams, strategy, and leadership. Thinking about your work, just in a different way, or though a different lens, I believe is helpful. How helpful? Probably not as much as making more decisions yourself, but at least in my environment I'm rate limited by circumstances beyond my control! That said, there are a couple of "good" business books, and I agree with the author on the works of Michael Porter (esp. On Competition) and ET Jaynes, Probability Theory: The Logic of Science. The later was a major influence on my life and pivotal book I read as a young scientist, and it moved me into the direction of data science!
- scoofy 1y agoThe best book on this subject I've read is Fooled by Randomness by Nassim Taleb. The entire premise is backward. You don't just look at success to find the source of success with out introducing a massive amount of survivorship biases. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/176225/fooled-by-randomness-by-nassim-nicholas-taleb/ https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/176225/fooled-by-ra...
- phendrenad2 1y agoDamn, you could have cribbed this list from my own notes on various business/startup books over the years. I like the idea that business books have an emotional appeal. I think it comes from buying the book itself. The more famous a book is, the more people will feel good about reading it, no matter how little it practically benefits them. I think there's a related psychological effect where luxury items sometimes sell more when their price increases. I think that most business books hyperfocus on one or a few simplified "rules" (hell, Ray Dalio's book is literally called "Principles") and ignore any messy complications or cofactors. If you really want a laugh, read Smart's "Topgrading" which spends an entire half a book telling you that later chapters are going to really improve your hiring process, and the second half of the book repeating some simple rules without bothering to defend them against obvious objections. "Punished by Rewards" makes a simple case and then burns through the remainder of the pages dissing Skinner. "Built to Last" is a collection of anecdotes about business that make bold and authoritative statements that are still up for debate (such as where exactly Hewlett Packard went wrong). "Blitzscaling" hangs its entire thesis on the success of the Sambear brothers, which seems ridiculous to me.
- dangus 1y agoI’m glad Peter Thiel was brought up because he keeps coming up as this Bond villain type of dude when really he was just lucky twice with investments in PayPal and Facebook. After those payouts plus a bunch of time in the markets, a huge chunk of his net worth is basically just those two jackpots plus not a whole lot more gains than throwing the proceeds into some index funds, maybe just something more aggressive than that because he got to work with enough money where it can be risked more than the average person’s 401k. My submission to the world is that Peter Thiel is a really average dude in terms of talent and Palantir is more like a boring government contractor with mediocre but specialized software versus the Bond villain spy agency we all take it to be.
- hilux 1y agoI'm glad someone said it. The same goes for my overpriced MBA. It's all Monday-morning quarterbacking, and has very little on-the-job practicality, even less as years pass, and technology (and politics) evolve.
- syed123 1y agoThe problem with books in general and articles is that they always refer some more books to read or go indepth so it has caused me to move even far away from taking action- even the best/top 10 books is not the final list as they themselves refer another 20-50 books so i feel like its never ending cycle of slippery slope. I have completely given up on reading books and occassionaly chatgpt the problems i am currently faciing and go from there rather than ever reading a single book or article.