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Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot
- theanonymousone 3mo agoA very sharp slap in the face of those of us who kept our annual plans and didn't ask for s refund: It seems it will not be available to annual subscriptions.
- mellosouls 3mo agowhere does it say that? its not available to me (also annual) at the moment via cloud but it said it is rolling out gradually, so I'm not too concerned. Tho I'm not overly excited either given Copilot pricing now; I reckon this should be at most 1x.
- theanonymousone 3mo agoThey say it here: https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing/request-based-billing-legacy/model-multipliers-for-annual-plans https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing... But then again they released MAI despite this, so I don't know.
- mellosouls 3mo agoWell I did check that first and didn't take the omission of Kimi to mean anything but the docs haven't been updated. I guess it will be a wait and see thing.
- theanonymousone 2mo agoIt's not about the table, unfortunately: > Users on legacy annual Copilot plans will not receive access to new models and features.
- matrik 3mo agoAnd why should one prefer GitHub Copilot over OpenCode? Worse harness, more expensive prices, unreliable product strategy, limited model support, the list goes on.
- esafak 3mo agoLegacy corps on the Microsoft steamboat.
- purerandomness 3mo agoYou can select Copilot as provider in OpenCode. Copilot is used a safe liability layer for enterprises, not as an actual harness. At $OURCORP we are only allowed to use models available in Copilot. No problem to use them in OpenCode.
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- boundless88 3mo agoWhen will GitHub Copilot support integrating custom models?
- Klaster_1 3mo agoAFAIK you can already use custom models in VSCode Copilot, but probably not for cloud workloads yet.
- ignoramous 3mo agoCopilot Chat supports BYOK since Oct 2025 for the VSCode plugin: https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2026/06/18/byok-vscode https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2026/06/18/byok-vscode
- mvATM99 3mo agoIt does, but it's very poorly documented and quite unstable (on purpose i think). What the other commenter said about the VSCode BYOK seems to be the more reliable way. I tried adding a Foundry LLM as Github Copilot custom model and failed miserably. But with VSCode BYOK (and Github Copilot as the interfact) i did get it working, and i can now use Deepseek V4 Flash with Copilot.
- summarity 3mo agoIt has supported custom, local, any BYOM for quite a while. I work at GitHub but even then I often use OpenRouter models in the CLI and Copilot App
- andhuman 3mo agoFinally an alternative to the big dogs that a company can use. People have been asking for a way to run the Chinese models from a trusted provider. Here GitHub delivered! The performance, if we trust the benchmarks, put it at Sonnet 4.6. Let’s see if it’s worth it with GitHubs pricing.
- MangoCoffee 3mo agoMicrosoft needs to offer cheaper option since they change to token based billing. GPT-5.4 used to be x1 for yearly subscriber but now it cost 6x. i run out the premium request for just couple prompts. Github copilot for $10 used to be the best value since you get all the US AI labs model for cheap.
- sneezychl 3mo agoCoPilot was an insanely good value while it lasted. Only moneysoft could subsidize a service that much.
- w4yai 3mo ago> People have been asking for a way to run the Chinese models from a trusted provider I'm going to be called a chiller again, but at this point I don't care as it is relevant. Synthetic runs their own models for a reasonable price, GLM5.2 & Kimi K2.7-Code included. Referral link : https://synthetic.new/?referral=kwjqga9QYoUgpZV https://synthetic.new/?referral=kwjqga9QYoUgpZV
- impact_sy 3mo agoWhen will DeepSeek be available?
- pkaye 3mo agoThe V4 models are already in the Azure AI foundry so maybe a good chance of it coming.
- websap 3mo agoWhere is the inference running?
- pkaye 3mo agoAzure. It was already available on the Azure AI Foundry before. https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/ai-models/model-hosting#open-weight-models https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/ai-models/model...
- Tepix 3mo agoOn servers that are subject to the CLOUD Act. Expect no GDPR compliance.
- cassianoleal 3mo agoMost European infrastructure runs on the big clouds, who are all subject to the same act. No one cares, unfortunately.
- Scroll_Swe 3mo agoThere is even mainstream press articles about it here in Sweden. "dependance on microsoft ooh so bad" etc. I find it laughable. Unless you have a time machine to 2005 (EC2 came out in 2006 that should have been the signal) there is no way to compete now. That train has left the platform. Second, Nokia and Ericsson dominate mobile infra in the west, but that is good I guess as they are EU? What does USA think about that? Third, let us say you get rid of MS. Now you have no MS but all network infra for broadband is Cisco, Huawei, Juniper etc. Good luck ripping that out. And for what? Same with AI. Mistral was amazing at first, Le Chat. Almost as good, generous free limits, good docs. Now? Just plain bad. Deepseek is better (I dislike china so I avoid it). EU should have gone in 500% the moment Mistral showed promise. But lately we let USA and China take the lead on everything and EU can write a strongly worded letter after about how bad it is. People will "care" when EU starts making good stuff again. And lastly lol, people do know everything ends in Taiwan in the end right?
- TiredOfLife 3mo ago
- SeriousM 3mo agoWho really cares? The model multipliers and the artificial currency were the final nail in the Github Copilot coffin.
- sognetic 3mo agoEnterprises still have big contracts with github, those companies are imposing tight spending limits now and if the open weight models enable those limits to last a bit longer that's probably quite popular.
- mmusc 3mo agoYes significantly cheaper to run compared to the other models, tried it for an hour yesterday and the results look promising. Saw in a discussion on Reddit that the team is evaluating glm5.2 so hopefully more to come!
- scriptsmith 3mo agoIs GitHub Copilot the best positioned platform for enterprise? They support Claude, GPT, Gemini, and now even open weight models. Larger orgs are paying at API rates anyway so it costs just as much as anywhere else. They have a pretty good agent CLI and SDK, and now a desktop app. They have hosted agents, and you can run their 'Agentic Workflows' in CI. Has their reputation tanked so much that the alternatives get all the buzz? Or is it that non-enterprise users are priced out by the usage costs, so no free marketing?
- gunalx 3mo agoThe rugpull with the pricing change without further notice was not taken kindly by enterprice.
- attentive 3mo agoThey were, until they decided to commit suicide for the service.
- lbreakjai 3mo agoWe just cancelled everyone's plans and rolled liteLLM out internally. We kept it for the insanely cheap tokens, but now that they've switched to the new pricing, they're just like openrouter, just with far fewer models.
- hrpnk 3mo agoThere is literally no more reason to use their service. I don't need a monthly expiring token pool drained at API pricing which I can get from any provider.
- theplumber 3mo agoFor some reasons compilot seems dummer than vscode Claude or vscode codex. I can’t tell what’s the exact reason but it didn’t feel right
- a_c 3mo agoMust be the system prompts. Ask copilot to dump its system prompt, and compare the system prompt with claude. It is not accurate but handy. I bet they are quite different
- skybrian 3mo agoLooks like it’s the same price on Fireworks AI? https://fireworks.ai/blog/kimi-k2p7-code https://fireworks.ai/blog/kimi-k2p7-code I don’t know much about them but they did a deal with Microsoft in March: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/introducing-fireworks-ai-on-microsoft-foundry-bringing-high-performance-low-latency-open-model-inference-to-azure/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/introducing-fireworks...
- TiredOfLife 3mo agohttps://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/ai-models/model-hosting#moonshot-ai-models https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/ai-models/model... Says that they are run by Moonshot
- calumcl 3mo ago> These models are hosted on US-based Azure AI Foundry infrastructure managed by GitHub and Microsoft. Customer prompts and responses are not sent to the original model developers. From your link: https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/ai-models/model-hosting#moonshot-ai-models:~:text=These%20models%20are%20hosted%20on%20US%2Dbased%20Azure%20AI%20Foundry%20infrastructure%20managed%20by%20GitHub%20and%20Microsoft.%20Customer%20prompts%20and%20responses%20are%20not%20sent%20to%20the%20original%20model%20developers https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/ai-models/model....
- nsoonhui 3mo agoI used GitHub Copilot for my VS 2026 development and switched between ChatGPT and Claude. That was before I discovered Claude Code and the Codex app. Copilot was OK for my purposes, and the USD 10 per month fee was enough for my usage. However, last month they introduced a new pricing model ( I know the old pricing was not sustainable), and my USD 10 was exhausted within days. Because of that, I switched to Claude Code and Codex and have never looked back. Yes, tokens on Claude Code and Codex are subsidized heavily, but let's just enjoy when good things last. I do feel there is a difference between using Claude via Copilot versus using Claude directly in Claude Code. I'm not sure what Microsoft is doing behind the scenes.
- arikrahman 3mo agoI had a similar experience moving away from Copilot within Zed. Now using the reasonix harness for Deepseek that makes cache hits almost free. And that's with unsubsidized American providers like Digital Ocean or Cloudflare.
- k__ 3mo agoNice. I paid $6 yesterday for DeepSeek V4 Flash on OpenRouter. That's like $120 dollar for a month, and it's not even a good model.
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- kingstnap 3mo agoInput: $0.95 Cache hit (most important): $0.19 Output: $4.00 This is the same as how much Moonshot charges for it, and it puts it at roughly the price of GPT 5.4 mini, not a bad option. For some context here is a stupid prompt that wastes tokens: "Play a game of tic tac toe against yourself on a 5x5 board, you need 5 in a row to win." It costs $0.006 on Kimi K2.7, and you get to see the whole raw reasoning trace. GPT-5.4 mini costs $0.016 and its summarized. And in case you are wondering both play incredibly stupidly. Kimi: A B C D E 1 . . . . . 2 . . . . . 3 X X X X X 4 . O O O O 5 . . . . . GPT 5.4 mini: 1: X X X X X 2: O O . . . 3: . . O . . 4: . . . O . 5: . . . . O
- asimovDev 3mo agowhen i will be extremely bored, I think I will make two models play chess against each other. I bet there's a chess benchmark / llm tournament already somewhere
- rusticpenn 3mo agoModels are bad at chess. I am using a middleman to help models play chess and experimenting. https://abhay-ai.github.io/R_Daneel_AI/ https://abhay-ai.github.io/R_Daneel_AI/
- fuglede_ 3mo agoIn fact, you don't even need an LLM tournament when you can have tom7's Elo World tournament: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpXy041BIlA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpXy041BIlA
- kingstnap 3mo agoBtw if anyone is wondering, GPT 5.5 does the same garbage as 5.4 mini for 4 times the cost. Fable manages to make a reasonable game, at a cost of 40 cents. X X O O O O O X X X X X X O O X O O X O X O X X O
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- grumbelbart2 3mo agoIs there a zero-retention option?
- tapirl 3mo agoUnlike Google, the AI wave appears to deliver positive revenue impacts for Microsoft. The company does need to integrate the new AI-human-machine interface into its application development SDKs.
- Kon5ole 3mo agoI am a huge fan of Copilot CLI. It just feels so logical and low-friction to use compared to Claude Code. Having the ability to juggle various models at will is really nice too. ("Plan this using Opus 4.6, let GPT 5.4 verify the plan and give feedback before implementing with Sonnet 4.6"). Unfortunately the June pricing change for Copilot forced me personally as well as my entire department at work to switch to Claude Code. With copilot we were hitting a few dollars of extra spend over the included credits in April and May, then in June we started chewing through the monthly budget every 2-3 days. Just a completely insane price hike from the customer's perspective, I don't know what MS were thinking there. Even if that is the price they need to be sustainable they should have waited until the competition changed their prices first. I wouldn't be surprised if Copilot lost 50% or more of their customer base last month. Eventually this could be where all the major players set their prices, so the thought occurs to me that nations should run some form of "public access AI", just like they did for TV. Use the free open models and use tax money to finance a few datacenters. Geo-lock the use and set strict throttles to manage load, but let school children and citizens use that AI freely otherwise. If Copilot's pricing is the level for all AI in a few years, only the unicorn companies can afford to use them, and everybody else has no chance of competing with a company that can use AI.
- nsbk 3mo agoThe price hike was insane. My $dayjob is moving away from Copilot and into Claude Code subscriptions. In parallel we are testing AWS bedrock and Deepinfra for open weight models in preparation for when CC inevitably stops being such a good deal and aligns with actual token cost. Fun times.
- Incipient 3mo agoI had to do the same. I expect everything will go token pricing, and at that point a LOT of small/mid businesses will drastically change how they use code. I've swapped to the 20x Claude plan for a month or two to knock out two ideas I need to get it MVP - expecting Claude to go token priced soon.
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- c7b 3mo agoGotta say, I've lost all interest in cloud-based AI products. Too many cool features and workflows that I was once excited about that I can't or don't use anymore for a variety of reasons (price hikes, subjectively nerfed, disappeared altogether, replaced,...) for me to even remember. It's tiring. I've set up a small rig, mostly settled on Qwen3.6 and I'm slowly adding features myself. It probably can't compete with Claude. I don't even know, I've stopped checking. It's providing a ton of value to me as is, and it only keeps getting better. All it takes is to realize that it doesn't actually matter if the grass is (maybe even objectively) greener somewhere else. Feels so good to know that it won't change under my feet. I've got this amazing, highly extensible tool, and it's mine.
- JSR_FDED 3mo agoThis sounds very appealing. What size Mac mini would I need for that?
- blensor 3mo agoI am curious if you implicitly assumed they are Macs or if that's what you are looking for specifically?
- JSR_FDED 3mo agoI assumed the 27B dense model would be preferable to a MoE model, and that it wouldn’t fit into a consumer graphics card, which leaves the Macs. Then I assumed for cost and battery/heat reasons that a Mini would be better than a laptop.
- blensor 3mo agoThe reason why I was curious is that I am running my stuff on a Strix Halo and I get the feeling that this class of devices ( gmktek, minisforum, lenovo, etc. ) seem to becoming a pretty good alternative
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- KolmogorovComp 3mo agoWhat's the credit cost compared to Gemini, Claude and GPT? As others have said, the last month price update killed copilot for good.
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- boronine 3mo agoFor any small team wanting to try Copilot, heed my warning that you will waste hours navigating their billing settings using various out-of-date documentation. Long story short, I finally got an email from them saying that "Copilot Business is available for teams purchasing 10 or more licenses". This is undocumented but other people are reporting the same: https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/199346 https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/199346 We're sticking with Cursor for now, using Kimi as our daily driver (branded as "Composer").
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- e2e4 3mo agoMuch better value by using K2.7 Code with GitHub cli via opencode subscription - at $10/month gives you $60 worth of usage (for now) - you get $5 usage credits per day (with some weekly / monthly limits) ps opencode cli is quite nice too
- e2e4 3mo agoIf you want to get an extra $5 off for the first month (I'll get $5 too) https://opencode.ai/go?ref=XDHX30HEFB https://opencode.ai/go?ref=XDHX30HEFB
- jackbravo 3mo agoOdd that AWS Bedrock has very poor support for such models. They only have Kimi 2.5, qwen 3 coder, DeepSeek V3.2, GLM 5. So none of the newer models.
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- hrpnk 3mo agoWonder if this is a product decision or rather a limitation on GPUs. Their Inf2 instances require AWS Neuron [1]. Maybe porting models to run on their hardware takes too much time. [1] https://aws.amazon.com/ai/machine-learning/neuron/ https://aws.amazon.com/ai/machine-learning/neuron/
- raptor7197 3mo agodamn
- addozhang 3mo agoFinally. Is this the first open weight LLM on Copilot? The gate is opened!
- rldjbpin 3mo agoall this talk, and the student pack's access to copilot (and i can imagine the free tier) is completely neutered. you still cannot choose any models nor have much credits to work with (200 per month, around 2 usd). this was luckily the nudge i really needed personally to get out of the vs code paradigm, and i am lowkey glad for it. overall, we have come full circle where vs code is using a model that one of its fork (cursor) has adapted as the core underlying model for its product.
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