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For an idea as to how this gets translated into the reality on the ground here in Minneapolis this is an article on what’s going on from the main newspaper in t
by andrewvc 8mo ago
For an idea as to how this gets translated into the reality on the ground here in Minneapolis this is an article on what’s going on from the main newspaper in the state.
> In the past week alone, ICE boxed in a Woodbury real estate agent recording their movements from his car, slammed him to the ground and detained him at the Whipple Federal Building near Fort Snelling for 10 hours. A 51-year-old teacher patrolling the Nokomis East community told the Star Tribune she was run off the road into a snowbank by ICE for laying on her horn. Officers shattered the car window of a woman attempting to drive past a raid in south Minneapolis to get to a doctor’s appointment nearby, then carried her through the street. Feds pushed an unidentified motorist through a red light into a busy intersection, reportedly fired projectiles at a pedestrian walking “too slowly” in a crosswalk and shoved Minneapolis City Council President Elliott Payne while he was observing their actions from a public sidewalk.
You can read the full thing here: https://www.startribune.com/have-yall-not-learned-federal-agents-target-legal-observers-in-the-aftermath-of-good-shooting/601562804 https://www.startribune.com/have-yall-not-learned-federal-ag...
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- NonHyloMorph 8mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives What happened to the SA when they became to powerful. And also when the people of Nazi Germany (so Nazis) became fed up with the thugs. Out of interest: is there something like a person considered to be a leader (like Röhm) amongst ICE?
- AndrewKemendo 8mo agoSecretary of homeland security
- delecti 8mo agoProbably Bovino. He seems to be the "front line general" as far as public perception is concerned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Bovino https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Bovino
- throw0101d 8mo agoSome folks have observed that the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and other established far-right groups aren't marching as much recently: > “How many pardoned January 6th insurrectionists have been hired by your respective departments?” Raskin (D-Md.), ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, asked the two officials [Bondi and Noem]. * https://www.commondreams.org/news/ice-agents-january-6 https://www.commondreams.org/news/ice-agents-january-6
- simgoh 8mo agoAs your link implies, they're not marching because they've joined ICE. Last year [1] Enrique Tarrio, head of the Proud Boys, announced an app where people could report "undocumented immigrants" for crypto. [1] - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/former-proud-boys-leader-enrique-tarrio-creates-app-that-pays-you-to-snitch-on-undocumented-immigrants/ar-AA1HaSMC https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/former-proud-boys-leader-e...
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- mc32 8mo agoAre there countries where people of any other country can enter without controls outside of those who form a union to control ingress from non-union members? Like can I just get a plane ticket and stay indefinitely in Peru, Russia, UK, Cuba, Mexico, Ukraine, Uganda, Abu Dhabi, Costa Rica, India, etc? You can rage against the question, but the question remains.
- AndrewKemendo 8mo agoWhat the hell does that have to do with anything? Just because a bunch of people jumped off a bridge means you’re gonna do the same thing? I would literally never look to Russia as an example of anything to emulate so why would I give a shit what they do?
- rpjt 8mo agoNope. You cannot.
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- lokar 8mo agoWaving signs, yelling and filming is not obstruction
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- irl_zebra 8mo agoSlamming people into the ground, firing tear gas canisters into their faces, or killing them are not valid remedies for the state to take even if obstruction is happening. (even if they're being like really annoying with whistles and stuff!) edit: even if they referred to the ICE agent as "fatty fat fat fat" meanly
- NonHyloMorph 8mo agoLol. Seems necessary to be pointed out which is a low point really.
- Amezarak 8mo agoAs a matter of fact, arrest is the proper remedy for obstruction, which is at least a misdemeanor and sometimes a felony, and it may include those first two things, or even the third if they violently resist. And despite widely spread misinformation online, ICE has the legal authority to arrest anyone, even citizens, if they see them doing this. There’s really no other way law enforcement could work, I don’t know what people are imagining. You don’t get to surround or block LEO from conducting business and just say “neener neener” and there’s nothing they can do. If you escalate to physical violence then you’re simply gambling with your life and there’s no other way it could be in the world we life in, except in maybe a very low crime society. It’s one thing if you accept all this and do it anyway, but people keep acting shocked by what happens. “why did you have real bullets?”.
- shrubble 8mo agoA person who believes the above examples should try to find the videos or other details of each case in order to be sure they are being told the truth. Assuming that the “carried the woman through the street” is the same case as the video I watched, she was clearly deliberately obstructing traffic, as she wasn’t continuing to drive down the street despite the road being clear with no vehicles ahead of her. She then is removed from the car by force and refuses to move, requiring her to be carried.
- andrewvc 8mo agoI’m here in the ground, I’ve seen them detain people for no cause. Masked agents grabbing guys out of a Home Depot parking lot and throwing them in a van only to drop them off later after scaring them. No charges. Maybe you’ll be lucky enough to get picked up so you can get your proof.
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- shrubble 8mo agoHow much of the situation were you actually able to know? Were you privy to the entire conversation?
- datsci_est_2015 8mo agoThe amount of credulity you’re exhibiting is incredible given the tidal wave of evidence that there’s a highly politicized, highly funded paramilitary organization of the government that has to date not been publicly held accountable for any of its actions that clearly violate the rights and safety of even the lawful residents of the United States.
- zahlman 8mo ago[flagged]
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- brightball 8mo agoIs there video for any of that?
- numbsafari 8mo agoTons
- wahnfrieden 8mo agoa few here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46634217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46634217
- karlshea 8mo agoYes
- LastTrain 8mo agoIf there is proof of it would it change your mind about anything?
- brightball 8mo agoProof is always better. I assume just about everything I hear about politics on the internet is exaggerated until I see evidence at this point.
- chaps 8mo agoSerious question: have you tried looking?!
- biophysboy 8mo agoSkepticism is fine! You should review the published video evidence that has appeared over the last week.
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- LastTrain 8mo ago^ This troll apparently likes federal law enforcement wearing masks.
- hydrolox 8mo ago0 day old account that's only posted on this thread
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- ceejayoz 8mo ago> A member of Governor Walz’s staff > Grove's departure from state government Pick one!
- embedding-shape 8mo agoIf all those things happened in Spain where I live, I'm 99% we'd have actual riots on the streets, together with a lot of other unpleasant-but-needed civilian action, until things got better, like we've done in the past (sometimes maybe went slightly overboard with it, but better than nothing). Why are Americans so passive? You're literally transitioning into straight up authoritarianism, yet where are the riots? How are you not fighting back with more than whistles and blocking them in cars? Is there more stuff actually happening on the ground, but there simply isn't any videos of it, or are people really this passive in the land of the free? Are people inside the country not getting the same news we're getting on the outside? Are you not witnessing your government carrying out extra-judicial murders and then being protected by that same government? I'm really lost trying to understand how the average person (like you reading this) isn't out on the streets trying to defend what I thought your country was all about.
- anaisbetts 8mo agoA pervasive "Someone needs to do something!!!" attitude is why. Americans will forever wait for the school principal to come and get everyone into trouble
- biophysboy 8mo agoThere is a lot of direct action happening right now in Minneapolis, with people keeping watch on every block. I agree this level of organizing should be happening nationwide.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 8mo ago[flagged]
- embedding-shape 8mo ago> Why would I want to riot over immigration enforcement enforcing immigration laws? So you are not seeing the same news the outside world are seeing? Is there censorship happening? Because what we're seeing, isn't "enforcing immigration laws", it's brutal murder of civilians, together with actually being worse at getting people out of the country. Obama did a better job at kicking out illegals, yet without these public broad-daylight murders. How does that compute to be "enforcing immigration laws"?
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- willmarch 8mo agoDeserve what exactly? Should people respect unconstitutional actions by LEOs?
- biophysboy 8mo agoWhy should civilians respect federal LEOs when they detain citizens, who have committed no crimes, under the pretense of immigration enforcement? Why does the lack of respect for LEOs justify beating non-violent civilians, smashing into their cars, randomly shooting pepper spray and tear gas, and raiding homes without a warrant?
- jr-throw 8mo agoThe perspective that is constantly missing from these one-sided ICE threads on HN and Reddit (but often exposed in videos after the fact): What are the civilians/protesters actually doing in these situations? This kind of "I'm a sovereign citizen, you can't touch me" behavior used to be rightfully belittled by the same crowd only a few years ago.
- array_key_first 8mo agoYeah, all those sovereign citizens going to their... doctors appointments? Really? This is how far we're shoving the boot up our ass these days? Okay. Look. We have so much evidence of misconduct by ICE that the only reasonable thing to do is just assume there is misconduct. There's no Le Enlightened Centrist take here - these people act like gangs, and have zero respect for Americans citizens or their property.
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- CGMthrowaway 8mo ago- ICE boxed in a Woodbury real estate agent recording their movements - She was run off the road into a snowbank by ICE for laying on her horn - A woman attempting to drive past a raid - Feds pushed an unidentified motorist through a red light - Fired projectiles at a pedestrian walking “too slowly” Where does the Palantir app come into any of these stories?