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GitHub's new text editor leaked on Twitter

706 points by almightygod 13y ago

frade33 13y ago
the next big thing for devs. I love sublime and will, but can't figure why is it taking them so long, to launch it on mac appstore.
- lelandriordan 13y ago
  Apple's 30% cut
  - shakeel_mohamed 13y ago
    Yeah, there's really no incentive for them do it aside from accepting non-Paypal customers.
    - djjaxe 13y ago
      paypal accepts transactions without accounts just cards...
      - shakeel_mohamed 13y ago
        Not if it's the same card used on a limited PayPal account :)
  - caiob 13y ago
    Not to mention the amount of features they'd have to remove in order to comply with Apple's standards.
    - Cthulhu_ 13y ago
      Would its plugin / scripting library even be allowed? I don't know the specifics of the OSX app store rules.
      - chipotle_coyote 13y ago
        Based on BBEdit, which does have a version in the App Store, the plugins and scripting would be just fine -- but the CLI integration wouldn't be. (Although you could probably download it separately.) I don't really see what the advantage of putting ST in the App Store would be, though, for either its developer or any of the users. I like the App Store well enough for certain things, but for developer tools and many utilities the sandboxing tends to be an annoyance at best. (Also, I don't like that the App Store makes upgrade pricing completely impossible, but that's a whole different rant.)
- schrijver 13y ago
  Curious, what is the added value for you if it is on the App Store?
- jbeja 13y ago
  Because?
- drdaeman 13y ago
  Maybe. For node.js devs. And HTML/Markdown/non-programming coders. Not sure about the others. A good programming editor must treat code constructs as first-class citizens and (at least partially) operate on AST level, not go with typical "hey, we have a bunch of text that we colorize and bracket-match/fold/dissect with some mostly-working regexp mess¹" approach. The latter is just a notepad, not a decent development environment. As I suspect this editor isn't much different from notepad/textmate/sublime in this regards and it doesn't really understand a thing about the code I'm working on (just pretends it does), it seems quite useless to me. ___ ¹) Like this: https://github.com/atom/symbols-view/blob/master/lib/.ctags https://github.com/atom/symbols-view/blob/master/lib/.ctags
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almightygod 13y ago
whois atom.io => Domain : atom.io Status : Client Updt+Delt Lock Owner : GitHub Hostmaster Owner : GitHub, Inc. Owner : 88 Colin P Kelly Jr St Owner : San Francisco Owner : CA Owner : US
aroman 13y ago
holy cow this thing has like 70 repositories! And I found a screenshot... looks very much like sublime text: https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/1424/1228569/cce6eb26-27a6-11e3-8675-a6905e50a9a6.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/1424/1228569/cce6eb26-27a6... edit: based on this[1], it looks like this is a GitHub-aware/integrated text editor that targets both desktop (Mac, at least) and web [1] https://gist.github.com/elcuervo/eb68883f233baf5a46c8 https://gist.github.com/elcuervo/eb68883f233baf5a46c8
- alecsmart1 13y ago
  Looks good. Any idea how we can try it?
  - aroman 13y ago
    well, it looks like you need to use GitHub oauth to sign into it, and doing so currently spits you out here: https://atom.io/nope https://atom.io/nope So I think we sit tight for now, though it looks like a release is imminent.
    - crucialfelix 13y ago
      now it says "SOON"
- axxl 13y ago
  Looks interesting! I saw a commit 24 minutes ago for "Prepare 0.7.0 release" in the Welcome package, so it looks like they're planning to go public shortly.
- reustle 13y ago
  Some more screenshots * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2265086/c6897dba-9e7b-11e3-945d-551cac610717.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2265086/c6897dba-9e... * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2265022/bb148a20-9e7a-11e3-81c8-bf5965d48183.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2265022/bb148a20-9e... * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/2988/1796891/85e69ff2-6a93-11e3-89ac-31927f604592.gif https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/2988/1796891/85e69ff2-6a93... (animated gif) * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241795/ba4827d8-9ce4-11e3-93a8-6666ee100917.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241795/ba4827d8-9c... * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241819/f8418cb8-9ce5-11e3-87e5-109e965986d0.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241819/f8418cb8-9c... * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241519/04791a24-9cd6-11e3-9a12-164cabe81d58.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241519/04791a24-9c...
zeckalpha 13y ago
Any word on how to get in on the beta?
- RussianCow 13y ago
  It sounds like they're preparing to open this to the public. I don't know, though. We'll just have to wait and see.
keeran 13y ago
https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/1424/1228569/cce6eb26-27a6-11e3-8675-a6905e50a9a6.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/1424/1228569/cce6eb26-27a6... "Collaboration is now working (and accepts 2FA logins)."
jitl 13y ago
What sets this apart from the other WebKit-based text editors, LightTable and Brackets? In general it seems like there's been an explosion of new text editors with this style since TextMate went into hibernation around 2008. It's great to have options, but there's lots of these TextMate clones now.
- netghost 13y ago
  TextMate is still alive: https://github.com/textmate/textmate https://github.com/textmate/textmate But to your main point, I would assume this has really really really good github integration...
  - bsimpson 13y ago
    True, but until Sublime started eating his lunch, TM2 was being developed so quiet and slowly that a bunch of people thought it was vaporware. I believe that's what the OP meant by "in hibernation".
- 1qaz2wsx3edc 13y ago
  LightTable is different then most editors by design, in that it tries to reproduce Bret Victor's idea on "the future of programming". Brackets is really neat, it just attempts to be a good editor, it has some unique features like toggling css inline from an html file for example and other jazz. So Atom isn't something that's really set apart from webkit-based editor, but I don't think that's what's important here. It's the potential the stack offers us. There's also not as much competition in this area, but it's sorely needed. I feel vim, emacs, textmate, sublime and most the editors are generally closed source or have huge code bases, and they are hampering the process of innovation by creating walled gardens or creating a barrier to entry. With a editor based on web technologies things really open up a lot. Think about an editor where you can write a feature, pass the tests, and have a hot reload. No compiling, no closed source or plugin system. Just simple coffeescript/javascript some html and css. And bam, you've rewritten your status bar without effecting work in progress. That's something an editor should give us. I digress, I'm just excited by this.
james33 13y ago
All of the competition can only be good for us developers. This, ST3, Light Table, Brackets, etc. Bring on the text editor wars!
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- est 13y ago
  Don't forget IDE family like http://c9.io/ http://c9.io/ Edit anywhere just with a browser is a win IMHO. Also easy pairing.
  - james33 13y ago
    Love C9 as well, been a big fan of that one since its early days, thanks for adding that!
  - pritambaral 13y ago
    c9 is awesome! One thing keeping me though is realtime collaboration in the open source edition. (Gotta self host, flaky internet). The closest alternative currently is CoVim. :x
    - ytjohn 13y ago
      Check out Codebox.io, another open source web ide. I've been comparing the two from a self-hosted standpoint. c9 definitely has the more polished interface (for instance, the ability to resize any pain), but codebox doesn't seem to limit any features on the self-hosted version. It just seems to work better. I only got my self-hosted version running last night and couldn't seem to spot a "chat" option (had two different browsers open) but for any file that was open by two people, you got to see who was editing what within the file. When I was running c9, I couldn't even get the console to display. I found a plethora of issues in their github issue tracker of other people with the same problem, as well as code suggestions to fix it, but virtually no response on any issue from the c9 people. I reported an issue I was having with codebox on their tracker. First I thought it was a bug, then I found a workaround (set the USER environment variable before starting codebox). I reported that on the issue, suggesting a documentation update, and within an hour, they had committed new code that made the workaround unnecessary. So for self-hosted, I think codebox has the more stable and actively developed codebase while c9's open-source version is more of an afterthought. But I do admit that c9's hosted service is much nicer than codebox's hosted service.
georgecalm 13y ago
Pretty crazy! Here are a few interesting plugins in there already: - vim-mode - fuzzy-finder - emmet (aka Zen Coding) - solarized-dark-syntax (heh) - snippets (check) - language-* (check; so many; awesome) - timecop (tracking where time is spent in the editor) - editor-stats (graph your mouse / keyboard activitiy) - ...
acanby 13y ago
Looks good and all... but I'm interested in the story on how it leaked on Twitter. The link just goes to the Github repo now.
- almightygod 13y ago
  This kicked it off: https://twitter.com/mattetti/status/438494095506280448 https://twitter.com/mattetti/status/438494095506280448
  - mattetti 13y ago
    Thanks for the credits :) I'm indeed the person who figured out what GH was working on based on Twitter's notifications letting me know that a bunch of my GitHub friends suddenly followed the atom.io twitter account. From there it was easy to link things together.
caiob 13y ago
the vim-mode better be really good to make me switch from native vim.
- plorkyeran 13y ago
  The future work section of the readme (https://github.com/atom/vim-mode#future-work-in-rough-order https://github.com/atom/vim-mode#future-work-in-rough-order) lists some really basic stuff, so it's definitely not there yet.
jordwalke 13y ago
I really can't wait for this to be released. I am a little pessimistic about the Vim mode. There are countless 80 or 90% complete Vim modes in various modern editors. But the absence of a truly native feeling Vim (that last 10%) is a deal breaker for many. I'd rather see more editor developers spend time finding a solution that provides a truly authentic Vim mode instead of spending countless hours merely approaching 90% compatibility. For the people who you're selling on that Vim mode (the people who would care that your editor provides it) 90% isn't good enough. There are other ways to integrate Vim modes in your editor such as using the (inappropriately named) "Netbeans interface" which actually allows Vim to run in the background while you integrate your UI on top of it across a serializable bridge. This allows a perfect recreation of Vim while letting you customize the application experience on top of it. Aside from that approach, there are a few faithful Vim recreations that I've discovered out of the dozens that I've tried. https://github.com/vicoapp/vico https://github.com/vicoapp/vico (Excellent project) http://www.viemu.com/ http://www.viemu.com/ (Solid experience in Visual Studio) https://github.com/guillermooo/Vintageous https://github.com/guillermooo/Vintageous (fairly close and getting better every day) But I don't mean to sound like such a pessimist. The progress so far looks excellent and I can't wait to try it out. Keep it up! Edit: I also notice that the logo looks like an iOS7 version of React's logo: http://facebook.github.io/react/ http://facebook.github.io/react/
- ChickeNES 13y ago
  Why not just use Vim?
  - alxndr 13y ago
    If it's not vimmy enough, I bet people will.
  - roryokane 13y ago
    Vim does not support graphical user elements, and is built around the unfamiliar language Vimscript. Those drawbacks are pretty baked into Vim and would be hard to change (though someone is trying to: https://www.bountysource.com/fundraisers/539-neovim-first-iteration https://www.bountysource.com/fundraisers/539-neovim-first-it...). Many other editors don’t have these drawbacks, allowing them to support features such as these: • a graphical file tree browser (with icons, not restricted to ASCII art like NERDTree) • proportional-width fonts • a zoomed-out-code mini-map scroll bar • Plugins written in more mainstream, cleaner languages than Vimscript. Vim does have a plugin interface for some other languages such as Python, but some OSs’ provided Vim installations don’t support those languages, and it’s hard to get a version of Vim with support.
jastanton 13y ago
FYI https://atom.io https://atom.io is leaking assets. Here is an album of the images found in the css http://imgur.com/a/KG4MX#0 http://imgur.com/a/KG4MX#0 the css http://pastebin.com/FgN3g448 http://pastebin.com/FgN3g448 the js http://pastebin.com/p1nBmGki http://pastebin.com/p1nBmGki
- 1qaz2wsx3edc 13y ago
  The most vital one, showing it wants to be hacked at (in a good way): http://i.imgur.com/XmLcOhB.gif http://i.imgur.com/XmLcOhB.gif Awesomeness.
  - TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago
    That's just for a welcome dialog.
- pseut 13y ago
  Well, crap, they've certainly got enough pictures of rockets. Sign me up!
  - GamblersFallacy 13y ago
    atom! to the moon!
rockajima 13y ago
Lemme see him play Tom Sawyer by Rush... successfully, then we'll talk about worlds greatest, until then Neil Peart still reigns.
jbranchaud 13y ago
Any ideas if all the code behind the editor will be released as open source? Edit: To be clear, I am not talking about all the supplementary repositories that are already open source, but rather I am wondering if the core application will be OS.
- shurcooL 13y ago
  I'm very curious too. This may make or break it for me.
chjj 13y ago
Flattered to see it using marked for the markdown engine. Maybe the world is finally ridding itself of showdown.
- benaiah 13y ago
  What's wrong with showdown? Legitimate question - I just haven't heard of any complaints about it before.
  - chjj 13y ago
    I'll keep this as short as possible, but that's not easy. Speed: It's relatively slow (but fortunately faster than markdown.js at the very least). Quality: It carries with it a bunch of nonsensical quirks. Some of these quirks are inherited from the original markdown, some are unique to showdown. (I feel like I could write a treatise on list behavior alone, and how ridiculously showdown and markdown.pl handle them). It's not what people are accustomed to/find intuitive today. Here's a few problems (with showdown, as well as other engines) presented in a more tangible way: https://github.com/chjj/marked/blob/master/doc/broken.md https://github.com/chjj/marked/blob/master/doc/broken.md Code quality and maintenance: Showdown is a line-for-line port of Markdown.pl. As you can guess, this is not ideal, especially when you consider that the original markdown was written extremely awkwardly - it's essentially a pile of regexes doing global replaces on a single string to produce the output. This is _extremely_ confusing and messy to those who are not familiar with a code, and the original author of showdown, as far as I know, no longer maintains the project.
- rhythmvs 13y ago
  And rightly so! Marked indeed is a fine 𝗠⬇ parser! How would you compare your approach to e.g. markdown-js¹, mdown-parse-pegjs², or text.js³ (which are based on PEG parsing)? I would like to elaborate a bit on the specific differences/benefits between the many MD parsers. (I’m maintaining an inventory of Markdown resources in a repo on Github.⁴) [¹] https://github.com/evilstreak/markdown-js https://github.com/evilstreak/markdown-js [²] https://github.com/shamansir/mdown-parse-pegjs https://github.com/shamansir/mdown-parse-pegjs [³] https://github.com/sheremetyev/texts.js https://github.com/sheremetyev/texts.js [⁴] https://github.com/rhythmus/markdown-resources https://github.com/rhythmus/markdown-resources
jalan 13y ago
Will this support Linux? I would love to try this on my Linux System. (Ubuntu, to be specific)
- lukeholder 13y ago
  looks like it is built on node-webkit so probably yes.
  - alessioalex 13y ago
    where did you find that out? just curious
    - bpicolo 13y ago
      package.json everywhere.
CoachRufus87 13y ago
Never thought I'd be excited for a text editor, but damn I can't wait for this to come out.
- babby 13y ago
  Me too! I'm a big Sublime Text guy, right, but simply put sublime is lacking, especially in UI flexibility and advanced IDE features, like intelligent autocomplete, type checking etc. If this thing delivers sublime-tier quality code editing in the browser and desktop AND commands a big enough community to allow for even more features (due to being open source), perhaps even IDE tier features... Sign me the fuck up. I'm tired of using closed source crap, patiently waiting for the dev to get off his ass and build more API functionality.
kumarski 13y ago
top of HN = leak well done = planned? maybe.
- dshankar 13y ago
  To be fair, Github wouldn't need to leak anything to get on the top of HN. Just about any thing they post on their blog gets on the front page for at least a few hours.
  - bowerbird 13y ago
    notions of fairness aside, github doesn't need hackernews. in the slightest. for attention, or for anything else... and i'm fairly sure that paul graham would say that himself. -bowerbird
tuananh 13y ago
Very likely that Github bought SublimeText.
- bsimpson 13y ago
  Why do you say that?
  - dav- 13y ago
    Atom: http://i.imgur.com/0Qfwkp4.png http://i.imgur.com/0Qfwkp4.png SublimeText: http://i.imgur.com/frzYwwc.png http://i.imgur.com/frzYwwc.png Case in point.
    - jbrooksuk 13y ago
      They look similar. I'd like to be proven wrong and GitHub make Sublime a more maintained and transparent project, but it's doubtful.
      - romanovcode 13y ago
        I think if this kicks out good and will have plenty of plugins sublime will be dead in a matter of months.
    - bsimpson 13y ago
      The UI is undoubtedly similar, but Atom appears to be written in Coffeescript. Isn't Sublime written in C and Python?
      - dav- 13y ago
        Couldn't this effectively be "Sublime Text 4," written from scratch using ST3's proven approaches? I honestly have no clue, I just want to believe.
- jbrooksuk 13y ago
  Why? Because they made a clone?
sspiff 13y ago
This looks great! I'd be more than happy with an open source, modern editor to replace the current myriad of specialized-language editors (QtCreator, Brackets, ...), Sublime Text and Komodo Edit I'm using.
bashcoder 13y ago
Dig the feed URL: https://github.com/atom.atom https://github.com/atom.atom
forrestthewoods 13y ago
I was excited until I saw it was WebKit based. My confidence level that it won't be slow and buggy is next to zero. I would, of course, love to be wrong.
jbb555 13y ago
Lets reinvent everything in javascript no matter how badly...
- kelmop 13y ago
  There is freedom of choice. You don't have to use it.
  - q3k 13y ago
    Still, he is entitled to his opinion. You don't have to downvote it. :>
    - kelmop 13y ago
      Sure
- scorpion032 13y ago
  coffeescript and cson, specifically.
intrepidd42 13y ago
http://blog.atom.io/ http://blog.atom.io/ seems to be WIP, the meta tags are quite revealing : At GitHub, we’re building the text editor we’ve always wanted: hackable to the core, but approachable on the first day without ever touching a config file. We can’t wait to see what you build with it.
pacoverdi 13y ago
Looks 1000x times better than a project I just started based on Ace.js. Should save me a lot of trouble! I just hope it's not tightly coupled to the backend so I can replace it with a custom one.
p4bl0 13y ago
Haha. https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says/status/278710645644484609 https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says/status/278710645644484609
- Dorian-Marie 13y ago
  This sounds more like the future than having to get an expensive computer and setup a whole environment on it.
- rjsamson 13y ago
  Haha - that's great. Here's the original HN discussion being referenced.
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sspiff 13y ago
I sure hope this will have a rich plugin API and support non-web non-scripting languages as first class citizens. That would make it stand out from most recent editors.
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72deluxe 13y ago
A text editor in a browser? There seems a lot of excitement about it but I can't work out why - can anyone explain? I'm not trying to be argumentative; I really am curious! It's for editing text and there appears to be massive excitement about it....?
- no_gravity 13y ago
  I for one use my own web-based version control system and project management. If there was a good web-based texteditor that is 100% vim compatible, I could stop switching between a browser and a shell.
  - 72deluxe 13y ago
    What sort of stuff do you work on? Do you use a web based editor to modify stuff locally or is it for web based stuff hosted the other side of the world? I always SSH'd into boxes and edited stuff there if necessary, or had a local copy to work on using "normal" editors and synced it. But now I'm writing C++ so I am blessed with good IDEs so perhaps that is why I am missing the excitement over a text editor?
    - no_gravity 13y ago
      I work on web based stuff on the other side of the world. I edit code in vim in screen in ssh. Used many IDEs in the past, but settled on pure vim.
      - 72deluxe 13y ago
        Ah I see the draw of an editor in a page then. Now I understand the excitement. Thanks!
- zeckalpha 13y ago
  It's not necessarily in a browser. It just seems to be using WebKit as an engine. This means that rather than having to embed e.g. vimscript, elisp, or Python into your editor to make it extensible, you get JavaScript for free. And graphics.
staaky 13y ago
Looks amazing, but why CoffeeScript?
- VeejayRampay 13y ago
  Because it's a modern and usable version of one of the most ubiquitous language of the modern web era (and happens to actually produces that language as an output, making it seamless to integrate)?
  - jbeja 13y ago
    Coffee-script is just synthetic sugar with some build in constructors for syntax elitist like rubyist or pythonistas, it not any different than using plain js. It does not save you for the quirks of js or give you any "improvement" beyond the syntax. Is a nice language, but don't put i like is something more of what it is.
- swah 13y ago
  I have the same problem with LightTable... ClojureScript is Lisp and all, but why not Javascript? Huge user base, must be faster since its CS target, and pretty good as a extension language (or just use Lua :))
  - mattgreenrocks 13y ago
    I'll re-phrase an earlier comment: JS is the x86 of the web, so why argue about which macro syntax is superior?
- hkdobrev 13y ago
  GitHub's guide for javaScript is to write every new JavaScript in CoffeeScript. https://github.com/styleguide/javascript https://github.com/styleguide/javascript It has been like that for years.
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shaunbent 13y ago
They're on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AtomEditor https://twitter.com/AtomEditor found the link in the Source Code of: http://blog.atom.io/ http://blog.atom.io/ It also has the line: "At GitHub, we’re building the text editor we’ve always wanted: hackable to the core, but approachable on the first day without ever touching a config file. We can’t wait to see what you build with it."
zachinglis 13y ago
I saw this. I have a lot of respect for Githubbers and Github but is Node really the language for a text editor? My text editor that's built natively to my OS often struggles, let alone if it's Node. Seems like they're shoehorning the wrong technology.
featherless 13y ago
IRC channel here: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=##atom http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=##atom
s10wen 13y ago
Was worth a try... https://twitter.com/s10wen/status/438637833981820929 https://twitter.com/s10wen/status/438637833981820929
theboywho 13y ago
Am I the only one who finds it hard to believe this has indeed been leaked and is not just a marketing strategy from Github? The repos are not even private.
- rafekett 13y ago
  I'm in this camp. Have you ever been to a talk given by Scott Chacon? He demos git on Github's internal repos. It's clear that there's little value placed on keeping a feature under wraps before it comes out over there.
- gruntmaster9000 13y ago
  Leak is the wrong term, and it’s doubtfully a deliberate marketing move either. More like, “suddenly being noticed because a bunch of GitHubbers followed the @AtomEditor account on Twitter”. Also, despite the plethora of repositories, the actual editor is not available. It could be many of the public repos are public so they can be installed using their Atom Package Manager, which would likely have to jump through hoops if they were private.
  - mattetti 13y ago
    That's correct, I'm the one who first found the project and I wouldn't call it a "leak". The site is live (domain registered by GH), the twitter account is live, the repo is full, the release is probably imminent.
mattpass 13y ago
Looking good and this only helps confirm that web IDE's are going to be the big thing in the next couple of years. I've been predicting/preaching about this for 2+ years now and been building my own browser code editor in that time (http://icecoder.net http://icecoder.net). So, CodeAnywhere gets $600k in funding, Adobe is releasing Brackets to the browser soon, GitHub is launching Atom as a web based offering. Need much more reason to leave the desktop behind?
- jbranchaud 13y ago
  Do any of these support an offline mode?
squallstar 13y ago
https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/lib/welcome.md https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/lib/welcome.md
petsounds 13y ago
Glad to see there's an Atom plugin[0] named after the Jean-Claude Van Damme movie Timecop[1] [0] https://github.com/atom/timecop https://github.com/atom/timecop [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timecop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timecop
twice 13y ago
Is this a replacement for gist?
- jbrooksuk 13y ago
  No. Gist is a service.
hkdobrev 13y ago
Website now says "SOON". Response from #atom irc channel: > Would the editor itself be open-source? > yes > a non-opensource editor from GitHub would be ludicrous > seems like the source code will be up today
- BruceM 13y ago
  The person who answered you isn't associated with GitHub and has been trolling the channel (and apparently you).
pritambaral 13y ago
I like that they are already prepared(/preparing) for Node 0.11, (https://github.com/atom/node-vm-compatibility-layer https://github.com/atom/node-vm-compatibility-layer)
jashkenas 13y ago
There's a bunch of lovely gems scattered through the Atom repos. Some of my favorites from a first quick glance: Biscotto — A CoffeeScript API documentation generator based on TomDoc notation: http://atom.github.io/biscotto/ http://atom.github.io/biscotto/ React-Coffee — A little glue that makes Facebook's React easy to use from CoffeeScript without having to resort to JSX: https://github.com/atom/react-coffee https://github.com/atom/react-coffee SpacePen: A minimalist view library for jQuery, allowing custom methods, super calls, HTML-building, subviews, and easy event binding: http://atom.github.io/space-pen/ http://atom.github.io/space-pen/ ... and the best bit about this bonanza is that everything is really quite readable. Keep up the good work, Kevin.
- Flenser 13y ago
  I'm confused, why would they be working on React and SpacePen? Don't they do (roughly) the same job?
  - genexp 13y ago
    The editor will be collaborative. It's github.
  - dangoor 13y ago
    I have a feeling that started out looking at React but opted to go with SpacePen for some reason.
  - feifan 13y ago
    React is defined by its declarative nature (for ease of coding) and virtual DOM (for performance). Not sure if SpacePen does the same, but at a first glance of the documentation I'm not seeing anything along those lines…
jbeja 13y ago
If it doesn't come with a vim-mode or that vim-mode is slow and painful to customize, then this will be useless.
- jbrooksuk 13y ago
  That's not true. People like myself who don't use Vim can still navigate code at speed.
  - pritambaral 13y ago
    I think what jbeja meant is "this will be useless for me"
jupiterrr 13y ago
It seems that Holman has already used it 5 months ago. https://github.com/holman/feedback/issues/432 https://github.com/holman/feedback/issues/432
mediastuttgart 13y ago
Guess, github bought sublime.
- jbrooksuk 13y ago
  No.
eik3_de 13y ago
If you go to https://atom.io/docs https://atom.io/docs you can authorize the app with your github account. You still get the 'soon' page afterwards, but at least you're now something like an early atom.io beta user ;)
hodgesmr 13y ago
http://whois.domaintools.com/atom.io http://whois.domaintools.com/atom.io Domain : atom.io Status : Client Updt+Delt Lock Owner : GitHub Hostmaster Owner : GitHub, Inc. Owner : 88 Colin P Kelly Jr St Owner : San Francisco Owner : CA Owner : US
mechabyte 13y ago
Looks like this is going to be released today http://minus.com/i/8HXqEh53LTsB http://minus.com/i/8HXqEh53LTsB
lectrick 13y ago
The way I code (and I'm surprised I seem to be the first person to state this here), is that I can run my class file in Sublime and it automatically runs its unit test within like a second. Instantly, I can know whether I broke anything or whether I satisfied a new assertion successfully without breaking anything else. Unless this editor can do something similar, this is pretty much useless for any non-html non-css code developer who has already learned that unit test suites are the way, the truth and the life.
hodgesmr 13y ago
"Atom is free during the beta period." https://github.com/atom/welcome/commit/86790ef7cca263ca0943f64effc771e2339a2754 https://github.com/atom/welcome/commit/86790ef7cca263ca0943f...
- pritambaral 13y ago
  Seems like they're going the ST route. I'm kinda disappointed Atom won't be open sourced.
  - hodgesmr 13y ago
    Maybe. https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/LICENSE.md https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/LICENSE.md https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
  - mattw1810 13y ago
    It could also mean they are going the Cloud 9 route (unlimited free public editing, limited free private projects) for the web version, which would essentialy be the same as their current subscription model, while still open-sourcing the editor itself.
    - pritambaral 13y ago
      Cloud9's open source edition has a few features missing, most notably realtime collaboration.
thecoffman 13y ago
Apparently it collects usage information? https://github.com/atom/welcome/pull/7 https://github.com/atom/welcome/pull/7 Thanks, but no thanks. I don't need my editor sending usage information anywhere.
- hodgesmr 13y ago
  "If you do not want this information reported, disable this package from the Metrics section of the Settings view" https://github.com/atom/metrics https://github.com/atom/metrics
  - thecoffman 13y ago
    I saw that as well, but opt-out is a crappy default. It should be opt-in.
    - diminoten 13y ago
      Why do you care?
- emddudley 13y ago
  That commit summary is "Be up front about collecting usage information." If a company can make a better product because they collect usage information, and if they are up front about it and allow you to disable the data collection, then I'm all for it.
brendanlim 13y ago
Atom IRC channel https://github.com/atom/welcome/commit/6346bb8c2e7534ae0de5e9495018f611d99f56f1 https://github.com/atom/welcome/commit/6346bb8c2e7534ae0de5e...
rjsamson 13y ago
Some interesting new info popping up in the repo: https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/lib/welcome.md https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/lib/welcome.md - they reference it as being "free during the beta period" - that coupled with a tweet from mojombo yesterday[1] makes it sound like a whole new line of business for them - sounds big! [1] https://twitter.com/mojombo/status/438200146791129088 https://twitter.com/mojombo/status/438200146791129088
namuol 13y ago
As the actual editor isn't publicly available in any form, this isn't exactly a "leak".
jophde 13y ago
And I will continue to use an Arch Linux VM, i3, vim, and dwb...
izazueta 13y ago
They open beta invites today
nakovet 13y ago
It looks like gitblime bought subhub, just kidding. :P
grandalf 13y ago
this is very cool. I think many people are underestimating the potential of something like this. There are 1000x as many people who can hack something cool for this than would do so in elisp. * I'm a happy emacs user but have to admit this is very promising.
toddwahnish 13y ago
How is this a leak when THEY HAVE A WEBSITE with a signup form? http://atom.io http://atom.io :)

706 points by almightygod 13y ago

the next big thing for devs. I love sublime and will, but can't figure why is it taking them so long, to launch it on mac appstore.

lelandriordan 13y ago
Apple's 30% cut
- shakeel_mohamed 13y ago
  Yeah, there's really no incentive for them do it aside from accepting non-Paypal customers.
  - djjaxe 13y ago
    paypal accepts transactions without accounts just cards...
    - shakeel_mohamed 13y ago
      Not if it's the same card used on a limited PayPal account :)
- caiob 13y ago
  Not to mention the amount of features they'd have to remove in order to comply with Apple's standards.
  - Cthulhu_ 13y ago
    Would its plugin / scripting library even be allowed? I don't know the specifics of the OSX app store rules.
    - chipotle_coyote 13y ago
      Based on BBEdit, which does have a version in the App Store, the plugins and scripting would be just fine -- but the CLI integration wouldn't be. (Although you could probably download it separately.) I don't really see what the advantage of putting ST in the App Store would be, though, for either its developer or any of the users. I like the App Store well enough for certain things, but for developer tools and many utilities the sandboxing tends to be an annoyance at best. (Also, I don't like that the App Store makes upgrade pricing completely impossible, but that's a whole different rant.)
schrijver 13y ago
Curious, what is the added value for you if it is on the App Store?
jbeja 13y ago
Because?
drdaeman 13y ago
Maybe. For node.js devs. And HTML/Markdown/non-programming coders. Not sure about the others. A good programming editor must treat code constructs as first-class citizens and (at least partially) operate on AST level, not go with typical "hey, we have a bunch of text that we colorize and bracket-match/fold/dissect with some mostly-working regexp mess¹" approach. The latter is just a notepad, not a decent development environment. As I suspect this editor isn't much different from notepad/textmate/sublime in this regards and it doesn't really understand a thing about the code I'm working on (just pretends it does), it seems quite useless to me. ___ ¹) Like this: https://github.com/atom/symbols-view/blob/master/lib/.ctags https://github.com/atom/symbols-view/blob/master/lib/.ctags

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almightygod 13y ago

whois atom.io => Domain : atom.io Status : Client Updt+Delt Lock Owner : GitHub Hostmaster Owner : GitHub, Inc. Owner : 88 Colin P Kelly Jr St Owner : San Francisco Owner : CA Owner : US

aroman 13y ago

holy cow this thing has like 70 repositories! And I found a screenshot... looks very much like sublime text: https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/1424/1228569/cce6eb26-27a6-11e3-8675-a6905e50a9a6.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/1424/1228569/cce6eb26-27a6... edit: based on this[1], it looks like this is a GitHub-aware/integrated text editor that targets both desktop (Mac, at least) and web [1] https://gist.github.com/elcuervo/eb68883f233baf5a46c8 https://gist.github.com/elcuervo/eb68883f233baf5a46c8

alecsmart1 13y ago
Looks good. Any idea how we can try it?
- aroman 13y ago
  well, it looks like you need to use GitHub oauth to sign into it, and doing so currently spits you out here: https://atom.io/nope https://atom.io/nope So I think we sit tight for now, though it looks like a release is imminent.
  - crucialfelix 13y ago
    now it says "SOON"
axxl 13y ago
Looks interesting! I saw a commit 24 minutes ago for "Prepare 0.7.0 release" in the Welcome package, so it looks like they're planning to go public shortly.
reustle 13y ago
Some more screenshots * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2265086/c6897dba-9e7b-11e3-945d-551cac610717.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2265086/c6897dba-9e... * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2265022/bb148a20-9e7a-11e3-81c8-bf5965d48183.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2265022/bb148a20-9e... * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/2988/1796891/85e69ff2-6a93-11e3-89ac-31927f604592.gif https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/2988/1796891/85e69ff2-6a93... (animated gif) * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241795/ba4827d8-9ce4-11e3-93a8-6666ee100917.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241795/ba4827d8-9c... * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241819/f8418cb8-9ce5-11e3-87e5-109e965986d0.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241819/f8418cb8-9c... * https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241519/04791a24-9cd6-11e3-9a12-164cabe81d58.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/671378/2241519/04791a24-9c...

zeckalpha 13y ago

Any word on how to get in on the beta?

RussianCow 13y ago
It sounds like they're preparing to open this to the public. I don't know, though. We'll just have to wait and see.

keeran 13y ago

https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/1424/1228569/cce6eb26-27a6-11e3-8675-a6905e50a9a6.png https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/1424/1228569/cce6eb26-27a6... "Collaboration is now working (and accepts 2FA logins)."

jitl 13y ago

What sets this apart from the other WebKit-based text editors, LightTable and Brackets? In general it seems like there's been an explosion of new text editors with this style since TextMate went into hibernation around 2008. It's great to have options, but there's lots of these TextMate clones now.

netghost 13y ago
TextMate is still alive: https://github.com/textmate/textmate https://github.com/textmate/textmate But to your main point, I would assume this has really really really good github integration...
- bsimpson 13y ago
  True, but until Sublime started eating his lunch, TM2 was being developed so quiet and slowly that a bunch of people thought it was vaporware. I believe that's what the OP meant by "in hibernation".
1qaz2wsx3edc 13y ago
LightTable is different then most editors by design, in that it tries to reproduce Bret Victor's idea on "the future of programming". Brackets is really neat, it just attempts to be a good editor, it has some unique features like toggling css inline from an html file for example and other jazz. So Atom isn't something that's really set apart from webkit-based editor, but I don't think that's what's important here. It's the potential the stack offers us. There's also not as much competition in this area, but it's sorely needed. I feel vim, emacs, textmate, sublime and most the editors are generally closed source or have huge code bases, and they are hampering the process of innovation by creating walled gardens or creating a barrier to entry. With a editor based on web technologies things really open up a lot. Think about an editor where you can write a feature, pass the tests, and have a hot reload. No compiling, no closed source or plugin system. Just simple coffeescript/javascript some html and css. And bam, you've rewritten your status bar without effecting work in progress. That's something an editor should give us. I digress, I'm just excited by this.

james33 13y ago

All of the competition can only be good for us developers. This, ST3, Light Table, Brackets, etc. Bring on the text editor wars!

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est 13y ago
Don't forget IDE family like http://c9.io/ http://c9.io/ Edit anywhere just with a browser is a win IMHO. Also easy pairing.
- james33 13y ago
  Love C9 as well, been a big fan of that one since its early days, thanks for adding that!
- pritambaral 13y ago
  c9 is awesome! One thing keeping me though is realtime collaboration in the open source edition. (Gotta self host, flaky internet). The closest alternative currently is CoVim. :x
  - ytjohn 13y ago
    Check out Codebox.io, another open source web ide. I've been comparing the two from a self-hosted standpoint. c9 definitely has the more polished interface (for instance, the ability to resize any pain), but codebox doesn't seem to limit any features on the self-hosted version. It just seems to work better. I only got my self-hosted version running last night and couldn't seem to spot a "chat" option (had two different browsers open) but for any file that was open by two people, you got to see who was editing what within the file. When I was running c9, I couldn't even get the console to display. I found a plethora of issues in their github issue tracker of other people with the same problem, as well as code suggestions to fix it, but virtually no response on any issue from the c9 people. I reported an issue I was having with codebox on their tracker. First I thought it was a bug, then I found a workaround (set the USER environment variable before starting codebox). I reported that on the issue, suggesting a documentation update, and within an hour, they had committed new code that made the workaround unnecessary. So for self-hosted, I think codebox has the more stable and actively developed codebase while c9's open-source version is more of an afterthought. But I do admit that c9's hosted service is much nicer than codebox's hosted service.

georgecalm 13y ago

Pretty crazy! Here are a few interesting plugins in there already: - vim-mode - fuzzy-finder - emmet (aka Zen Coding) - solarized-dark-syntax (heh) - snippets (check) - language-* (check; so many; awesome) - timecop (tracking where time is spent in the editor) - editor-stats (graph your mouse / keyboard activitiy) - ...

acanby 13y ago

Looks good and all... but I'm interested in the story on how it leaked on Twitter. The link just goes to the Github repo now.

almightygod 13y ago
This kicked it off: https://twitter.com/mattetti/status/438494095506280448 https://twitter.com/mattetti/status/438494095506280448
- mattetti 13y ago
  Thanks for the credits :) I'm indeed the person who figured out what GH was working on based on Twitter's notifications letting me know that a bunch of my GitHub friends suddenly followed the atom.io twitter account. From there it was easy to link things together.

caiob 13y ago

the vim-mode better be really good to make me switch from native vim.

plorkyeran 13y ago
The future work section of the readme (https://github.com/atom/vim-mode#future-work-in-rough-order https://github.com/atom/vim-mode#future-work-in-rough-order) lists some really basic stuff, so it's definitely not there yet.

jordwalke 13y ago

I really can't wait for this to be released. I am a little pessimistic about the Vim mode. There are countless 80 or 90% complete Vim modes in various modern editors. But the absence of a truly native feeling Vim (that last 10%) is a deal breaker for many. I'd rather see more editor developers spend time finding a solution that provides a truly authentic Vim mode instead of spending countless hours merely approaching 90% compatibility. For the people who you're selling on that Vim mode (the people who would care that your editor provides it) 90% isn't good enough. There are other ways to integrate Vim modes in your editor such as using the (inappropriately named) "Netbeans interface" which actually allows Vim to run in the background while you integrate your UI on top of it across a serializable bridge. This allows a perfect recreation of Vim while letting you customize the application experience on top of it. Aside from that approach, there are a few faithful Vim recreations that I've discovered out of the dozens that I've tried. https://github.com/vicoapp/vico https://github.com/vicoapp/vico (Excellent project) http://www.viemu.com/ http://www.viemu.com/ (Solid experience in Visual Studio) https://github.com/guillermooo/Vintageous https://github.com/guillermooo/Vintageous (fairly close and getting better every day) But I don't mean to sound like such a pessimist. The progress so far looks excellent and I can't wait to try it out. Keep it up! Edit: I also notice that the logo looks like an iOS7 version of React's logo: http://facebook.github.io/react/ http://facebook.github.io/react/

ChickeNES 13y ago
Why not just use Vim?
- alxndr 13y ago
  If it's not vimmy enough, I bet people will.
- roryokane 13y ago
  Vim does not support graphical user elements, and is built around the unfamiliar language Vimscript. Those drawbacks are pretty baked into Vim and would be hard to change (though someone is trying to: https://www.bountysource.com/fundraisers/539-neovim-first-iteration https://www.bountysource.com/fundraisers/539-neovim-first-it...). Many other editors don’t have these drawbacks, allowing them to support features such as these: • a graphical file tree browser (with icons, not restricted to ASCII art like NERDTree) • proportional-width fonts • a zoomed-out-code mini-map scroll bar • Plugins written in more mainstream, cleaner languages than Vimscript. Vim does have a plugin interface for some other languages such as Python, but some OSs’ provided Vim installations don’t support those languages, and it’s hard to get a version of Vim with support.

jastanton 13y ago

FYI https://atom.io https://atom.io is leaking assets. Here is an album of the images found in the css http://imgur.com/a/KG4MX#0 http://imgur.com/a/KG4MX#0 the css http://pastebin.com/FgN3g448 http://pastebin.com/FgN3g448 the js http://pastebin.com/p1nBmGki http://pastebin.com/p1nBmGki

1qaz2wsx3edc 13y ago
The most vital one, showing it wants to be hacked at (in a good way): http://i.imgur.com/XmLcOhB.gif http://i.imgur.com/XmLcOhB.gif Awesomeness.
- TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago
  That's just for a welcome dialog.
pseut 13y ago
Well, crap, they've certainly got enough pictures of rockets. Sign me up!
- GamblersFallacy 13y ago
  atom! to the moon!

rockajima 13y ago

Lemme see him play Tom Sawyer by Rush... successfully, then we'll talk about worlds greatest, until then Neil Peart still reigns.

jbranchaud 13y ago

Any ideas if all the code behind the editor will be released as open source? Edit: To be clear, I am not talking about all the supplementary repositories that are already open source, but rather I am wondering if the core application will be OS.

shurcooL 13y ago
I'm very curious too. This may make or break it for me.

chjj 13y ago

Flattered to see it using marked for the markdown engine. Maybe the world is finally ridding itself of showdown.

benaiah 13y ago
What's wrong with showdown? Legitimate question - I just haven't heard of any complaints about it before.
- chjj 13y ago
  I'll keep this as short as possible, but that's not easy. Speed: It's relatively slow (but fortunately faster than markdown.js at the very least). Quality: It carries with it a bunch of nonsensical quirks. Some of these quirks are inherited from the original markdown, some are unique to showdown. (I feel like I could write a treatise on list behavior alone, and how ridiculously showdown and markdown.pl handle them). It's not what people are accustomed to/find intuitive today. Here's a few problems (with showdown, as well as other engines) presented in a more tangible way: https://github.com/chjj/marked/blob/master/doc/broken.md https://github.com/chjj/marked/blob/master/doc/broken.md Code quality and maintenance: Showdown is a line-for-line port of Markdown.pl. As you can guess, this is not ideal, especially when you consider that the original markdown was written extremely awkwardly - it's essentially a pile of regexes doing global replaces on a single string to produce the output. This is _extremely_ confusing and messy to those who are not familiar with a code, and the original author of showdown, as far as I know, no longer maintains the project.
rhythmvs 13y ago
And rightly so! Marked indeed is a fine 𝗠⬇ parser! How would you compare your approach to e.g. markdown-js¹, mdown-parse-pegjs², or text.js³ (which are based on PEG parsing)? I would like to elaborate a bit on the specific differences/benefits between the many MD parsers. (I’m maintaining an inventory of Markdown resources in a repo on Github.⁴) [¹] https://github.com/evilstreak/markdown-js https://github.com/evilstreak/markdown-js [²] https://github.com/shamansir/mdown-parse-pegjs https://github.com/shamansir/mdown-parse-pegjs [³] https://github.com/sheremetyev/texts.js https://github.com/sheremetyev/texts.js [⁴] https://github.com/rhythmus/markdown-resources https://github.com/rhythmus/markdown-resources

jalan 13y ago

Will this support Linux? I would love to try this on my Linux System. (Ubuntu, to be specific)

lukeholder 13y ago
looks like it is built on node-webkit so probably yes.
- alessioalex 13y ago
  where did you find that out? just curious
  - bpicolo 13y ago
    package.json everywhere.

CoachRufus87 13y ago

Never thought I'd be excited for a text editor, but damn I can't wait for this to come out.

babby 13y ago
Me too! I'm a big Sublime Text guy, right, but simply put sublime is lacking, especially in UI flexibility and advanced IDE features, like intelligent autocomplete, type checking etc. If this thing delivers sublime-tier quality code editing in the browser and desktop AND commands a big enough community to allow for even more features (due to being open source), perhaps even IDE tier features... Sign me the fuck up. I'm tired of using closed source crap, patiently waiting for the dev to get off his ass and build more API functionality.

kumarski 13y ago

top of HN = leak well done = planned? maybe.

dshankar 13y ago
To be fair, Github wouldn't need to leak anything to get on the top of HN. Just about any thing they post on their blog gets on the front page for at least a few hours.
- bowerbird 13y ago
  notions of fairness aside, github doesn't need hackernews. in the slightest. for attention, or for anything else... and i'm fairly sure that paul graham would say that himself. -bowerbird

tuananh 13y ago

Very likely that Github bought SublimeText.

bsimpson 13y ago
Why do you say that?
- dav- 13y ago
  Atom: http://i.imgur.com/0Qfwkp4.png http://i.imgur.com/0Qfwkp4.png SublimeText: http://i.imgur.com/frzYwwc.png http://i.imgur.com/frzYwwc.png Case in point.
  - jbrooksuk 13y ago
    They look similar. I'd like to be proven wrong and GitHub make Sublime a more maintained and transparent project, but it's doubtful.
    - romanovcode 13y ago
      I think if this kicks out good and will have plenty of plugins sublime will be dead in a matter of months.
  - bsimpson 13y ago
    The UI is undoubtedly similar, but Atom appears to be written in Coffeescript. Isn't Sublime written in C and Python?
    - dav- 13y ago
      Couldn't this effectively be "Sublime Text 4," written from scratch using ST3's proven approaches? I honestly have no clue, I just want to believe.
jbrooksuk 13y ago
Why? Because they made a clone?

sspiff 13y ago

This looks great! I'd be more than happy with an open source, modern editor to replace the current myriad of specialized-language editors (QtCreator, Brackets, ...), Sublime Text and Komodo Edit I'm using.

bashcoder 13y ago

Dig the feed URL: https://github.com/atom.atom https://github.com/atom.atom

forrestthewoods 13y ago

I was excited until I saw it was WebKit based. My confidence level that it won't be slow and buggy is next to zero. I would, of course, love to be wrong.

jbb555 13y ago

Lets reinvent everything in javascript no matter how badly...

kelmop 13y ago
There is freedom of choice. You don't have to use it.
- q3k 13y ago
  Still, he is entitled to his opinion. You don't have to downvote it. :>
  - kelmop 13y ago
    Sure
scorpion032 13y ago
coffeescript and cson, specifically.

intrepidd42 13y ago

http://blog.atom.io/ http://blog.atom.io/ seems to be WIP, the meta tags are quite revealing : At GitHub, we’re building the text editor we’ve always wanted: hackable to the core, but approachable on the first day without ever touching a config file. We can’t wait to see what you build with it.

pacoverdi 13y ago

Looks 1000x times better than a project I just started based on Ace.js. Should save me a lot of trouble! I just hope it's not tightly coupled to the backend so I can replace it with a custom one.

p4bl0 13y ago

Haha. https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says/status/278710645644484609 https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says/status/278710645644484609

Dorian-Marie 13y ago
This sounds more like the future than having to get an expensive computer and setup a whole environment on it.
rjsamson 13y ago
Haha - that's great. Here's the original HN discussion being referenced.

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sspiff 13y ago

I sure hope this will have a rich plugin API and support non-web non-scripting languages as first class citizens. That would make it stand out from most recent editors.

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72deluxe 13y ago

A text editor in a browser? There seems a lot of excitement about it but I can't work out why - can anyone explain? I'm not trying to be argumentative; I really am curious! It's for editing text and there appears to be massive excitement about it....?

no_gravity 13y ago
I for one use my own web-based version control system and project management. If there was a good web-based texteditor that is 100% vim compatible, I could stop switching between a browser and a shell.
- 72deluxe 13y ago
  What sort of stuff do you work on? Do you use a web based editor to modify stuff locally or is it for web based stuff hosted the other side of the world? I always SSH'd into boxes and edited stuff there if necessary, or had a local copy to work on using "normal" editors and synced it. But now I'm writing C++ so I am blessed with good IDEs so perhaps that is why I am missing the excitement over a text editor?
  - no_gravity 13y ago
    I work on web based stuff on the other side of the world. I edit code in vim in screen in ssh. Used many IDEs in the past, but settled on pure vim.
    - 72deluxe 13y ago
      Ah I see the draw of an editor in a page then. Now I understand the excitement. Thanks!
zeckalpha 13y ago
It's not necessarily in a browser. It just seems to be using WebKit as an engine. This means that rather than having to embed e.g. vimscript, elisp, or Python into your editor to make it extensible, you get JavaScript for free. And graphics.

staaky 13y ago

Looks amazing, but why CoffeeScript?

VeejayRampay 13y ago
Because it's a modern and usable version of one of the most ubiquitous language of the modern web era (and happens to actually produces that language as an output, making it seamless to integrate)?
- jbeja 13y ago
  Coffee-script is just synthetic sugar with some build in constructors for syntax elitist like rubyist or pythonistas, it not any different than using plain js. It does not save you for the quirks of js or give you any "improvement" beyond the syntax. Is a nice language, but don't put i like is something more of what it is.
swah 13y ago
I have the same problem with LightTable... ClojureScript is Lisp and all, but why not Javascript? Huge user base, must be faster since its CS target, and pretty good as a extension language (or just use Lua :))
- mattgreenrocks 13y ago
  I'll re-phrase an earlier comment: JS is the x86 of the web, so why argue about which macro syntax is superior?
hkdobrev 13y ago
GitHub's guide for javaScript is to write every new JavaScript in CoffeeScript. https://github.com/styleguide/javascript https://github.com/styleguide/javascript It has been like that for years.
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shaunbent 13y ago

They're on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AtomEditor https://twitter.com/AtomEditor found the link in the Source Code of: http://blog.atom.io/ http://blog.atom.io/ It also has the line: "At GitHub, we’re building the text editor we’ve always wanted: hackable to the core, but approachable on the first day without ever touching a config file. We can’t wait to see what you build with it."

zachinglis 13y ago

I saw this. I have a lot of respect for Githubbers and Github but is Node really the language for a text editor? My text editor that's built natively to my OS often struggles, let alone if it's Node. Seems like they're shoehorning the wrong technology.

featherless 13y ago

IRC channel here: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=##atom http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=##atom

s10wen 13y ago

Was worth a try... https://twitter.com/s10wen/status/438637833981820929 https://twitter.com/s10wen/status/438637833981820929

theboywho 13y ago

Am I the only one who finds it hard to believe this has indeed been leaked and is not just a marketing strategy from Github? The repos are not even private.

rafekett 13y ago
I'm in this camp. Have you ever been to a talk given by Scott Chacon? He demos git on Github's internal repos. It's clear that there's little value placed on keeping a feature under wraps before it comes out over there.
gruntmaster9000 13y ago
Leak is the wrong term, and it’s doubtfully a deliberate marketing move either. More like, “suddenly being noticed because a bunch of GitHubbers followed the @AtomEditor account on Twitter”. Also, despite the plethora of repositories, the actual editor is not available. It could be many of the public repos are public so they can be installed using their Atom Package Manager, which would likely have to jump through hoops if they were private.
- mattetti 13y ago
  That's correct, I'm the one who first found the project and I wouldn't call it a "leak". The site is live (domain registered by GH), the twitter account is live, the repo is full, the release is probably imminent.

mattpass 13y ago

Looking good and this only helps confirm that web IDE's are going to be the big thing in the next couple of years. I've been predicting/preaching about this for 2+ years now and been building my own browser code editor in that time (http://icecoder.net http://icecoder.net). So, CodeAnywhere gets $600k in funding, Adobe is releasing Brackets to the browser soon, GitHub is launching Atom as a web based offering. Need much more reason to leave the desktop behind?

jbranchaud 13y ago
Do any of these support an offline mode?

squallstar 13y ago

https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/lib/welcome.md https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/lib/welcome.md

petsounds 13y ago

Glad to see there's an Atom plugin[0] named after the Jean-Claude Van Damme movie Timecop[1] [0] https://github.com/atom/timecop https://github.com/atom/timecop [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timecop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timecop

twice 13y ago

Is this a replacement for gist?

jbrooksuk 13y ago
No. Gist is a service.

hkdobrev 13y ago

Website now says "SOON". Response from #atom irc channel: > Would the editor itself be open-source? > yes > a non-opensource editor from GitHub would be ludicrous > seems like the source code will be up today

BruceM 13y ago
The person who answered you isn't associated with GitHub and has been trolling the channel (and apparently you).

pritambaral 13y ago

I like that they are already prepared(/preparing) for Node 0.11, (https://github.com/atom/node-vm-compatibility-layer https://github.com/atom/node-vm-compatibility-layer)

jashkenas 13y ago

There's a bunch of lovely gems scattered through the Atom repos. Some of my favorites from a first quick glance: Biscotto — A CoffeeScript API documentation generator based on TomDoc notation: http://atom.github.io/biscotto/ http://atom.github.io/biscotto/ React-Coffee — A little glue that makes Facebook's React easy to use from CoffeeScript without having to resort to JSX: https://github.com/atom/react-coffee https://github.com/atom/react-coffee SpacePen: A minimalist view library for jQuery, allowing custom methods, super calls, HTML-building, subviews, and easy event binding: http://atom.github.io/space-pen/ http://atom.github.io/space-pen/ ... and the best bit about this bonanza is that everything is really quite readable. Keep up the good work, Kevin.

Flenser 13y ago
I'm confused, why would they be working on React and SpacePen? Don't they do (roughly) the same job?
- genexp 13y ago
  The editor will be collaborative. It's github.
- dangoor 13y ago
  I have a feeling that started out looking at React but opted to go with SpacePen for some reason.
- feifan 13y ago
  React is defined by its declarative nature (for ease of coding) and virtual DOM (for performance). Not sure if SpacePen does the same, but at a first glance of the documentation I'm not seeing anything along those lines…

jbeja 13y ago

If it doesn't come with a vim-mode or that vim-mode is slow and painful to customize, then this will be useless.

jbrooksuk 13y ago
That's not true. People like myself who don't use Vim can still navigate code at speed.
- pritambaral 13y ago
  I think what jbeja meant is "this will be useless for me"

jupiterrr 13y ago

It seems that Holman has already used it 5 months ago. https://github.com/holman/feedback/issues/432 https://github.com/holman/feedback/issues/432

mediastuttgart 13y ago

Guess, github bought sublime.

jbrooksuk 13y ago
No.

eik3_de 13y ago

If you go to https://atom.io/docs https://atom.io/docs you can authorize the app with your github account. You still get the 'soon' page afterwards, but at least you're now something like an early atom.io beta user ;)

hodgesmr 13y ago

http://whois.domaintools.com/atom.io http://whois.domaintools.com/atom.io Domain : atom.io Status : Client Updt+Delt Lock Owner : GitHub Hostmaster Owner : GitHub, Inc. Owner : 88 Colin P Kelly Jr St Owner : San Francisco Owner : CA Owner : US

mechabyte 13y ago

Looks like this is going to be released today http://minus.com/i/8HXqEh53LTsB http://minus.com/i/8HXqEh53LTsB

lectrick 13y ago

The way I code (and I'm surprised I seem to be the first person to state this here), is that I can run my class file in Sublime and it automatically runs its unit test within like a second. Instantly, I can know whether I broke anything or whether I satisfied a new assertion successfully without breaking anything else. Unless this editor can do something similar, this is pretty much useless for any non-html non-css code developer who has already learned that unit test suites are the way, the truth and the life.

hodgesmr 13y ago

"Atom is free during the beta period." https://github.com/atom/welcome/commit/86790ef7cca263ca0943f64effc771e2339a2754 https://github.com/atom/welcome/commit/86790ef7cca263ca0943f...

pritambaral 13y ago
Seems like they're going the ST route. I'm kinda disappointed Atom won't be open sourced.
- hodgesmr 13y ago
  Maybe. https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/LICENSE.md https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/LICENSE.md https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
- mattw1810 13y ago
  It could also mean they are going the Cloud 9 route (unlimited free public editing, limited free private projects) for the web version, which would essentialy be the same as their current subscription model, while still open-sourcing the editor itself.
  - pritambaral 13y ago
    Cloud9's open source edition has a few features missing, most notably realtime collaboration.

thecoffman 13y ago

Apparently it collects usage information? https://github.com/atom/welcome/pull/7 https://github.com/atom/welcome/pull/7 Thanks, but no thanks. I don't need my editor sending usage information anywhere.

hodgesmr 13y ago
"If you do not want this information reported, disable this package from the Metrics section of the Settings view" https://github.com/atom/metrics https://github.com/atom/metrics
- thecoffman 13y ago
  I saw that as well, but opt-out is a crappy default. It should be opt-in.
  - diminoten 13y ago
    Why do you care?
emddudley 13y ago
That commit summary is "Be up front about collecting usage information." If a company can make a better product because they collect usage information, and if they are up front about it and allow you to disable the data collection, then I'm all for it.

brendanlim 13y ago

Atom IRC channel https://github.com/atom/welcome/commit/6346bb8c2e7534ae0de5e9495018f611d99f56f1 https://github.com/atom/welcome/commit/6346bb8c2e7534ae0de5e...

rjsamson 13y ago

Some interesting new info popping up in the repo: https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/lib/welcome.md https://github.com/atom/welcome/blob/master/lib/welcome.md - they reference it as being "free during the beta period" - that coupled with a tweet from mojombo yesterday[1] makes it sound like a whole new line of business for them - sounds big! [1] https://twitter.com/mojombo/status/438200146791129088 https://twitter.com/mojombo/status/438200146791129088

namuol 13y ago

As the actual editor isn't publicly available in any form, this isn't exactly a "leak".

jophde 13y ago

And I will continue to use an Arch Linux VM, i3, vim, and dwb...

izazueta 13y ago

They open beta invites today

nakovet 13y ago

It looks like gitblime bought subhub, just kidding. :P

grandalf 13y ago

this is very cool. I think many people are underestimating the potential of something like this. There are 1000x as many people who can hack something cool for this than would do so in elisp. * I'm a happy emacs user but have to admit this is very promising.

toddwahnish 13y ago

How is this a leak when THEY HAVE A WEBSITE with a signup form? http://atom.io http://atom.io :)