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JoshTriplett
4d ago
Evidence is critically important. There is no evidence against, and plenty of evidence for. The point of the anthropic counterargument is merely that "it's never happened before" is not evidence against.
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4d ago
When LLMs act in misaligned ways, that doesn't happen because there's some story they're roleplaying of a misaligned AI. Even if there were no such stories in their context, they'd still have inherent incentives to do
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4d ago
The anthropic principle isn't providing evidence for the argument, nor is it a universal counterargument. It's just stating that the specific counterargument "well, the world has never ended before " doesn't work
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4d ago
And, in particular, because unlike the English norm, the noun is first and the adjective second. Courts martial. Daughters-in-law. Passers-by. Professors Emeriti. Secretaries general. Agents provocateurs.
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4d ago
If you stop going "nobody will do anything actually effective", and start going "how do we do something actually successful", any number of successful ideas start readily arising. It is possible to stop. Not easy, but po
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4d ago
We've also agreed, for instance, not to do certain types of testing anymore. Just as we could agree to stop training even larger frontier models.
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4d ago
Look at how we regulate nuclear weaponry. Consider how much more widespread it would be if we hadn't.
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4d ago
They will if it would be against international treaties to do otherwise, mutually enforced by every other world power.
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4d ago
The comparatively few that still exist, perhaps.
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4d ago
I'm not talking about jobs .
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4d ago
Yes, that is precisely my point. Any timeline with humans flourishing will never have a past history of a correct prediction of existential risk, unless you're willing to pay attention to the counterfactuals. Those counterfactuals are
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4d ago
The anthropic principle applies here: anyone warning about an existential risk will by necessity never have precedent to point to. I am not assuming humans don't remain in control, but rather, I am not axiomatically assuming there&#x
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4d ago
You are assuming that people remain in control.
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4d ago
When cars made horses obsolete, it didn't go so well for horses. In the short term, AI is disempowering the vast majority of people in favor of a very small subset. In the also way too short term, AI is disempowering all people.
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4d ago
*attorneys general (it's one of the more fun plurals out there)
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5d ago
> I don't think I have seen medium-large models do anything I'd not approve of in about 6 months. So you would approve of breaking into HuggingFace and RubyGems?
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5d ago
Replacing people leaves no room for people.
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5d ago
There are already such "APIs", which can be operated by a combination of textual communication and money. Or by illicit security vulnerabilities. You might notice that LLMs are pretty good at that now. We're building somethin
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5d ago
> An unaligned LLMs most important weapons won’t be a robot army - it will be hoodwinked humans. Perhaps very briefly, perhaps not at all. But don't make the mistake of thinking this is an inherent property of any possible path an u
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5d ago
The best reaction to something you don't understand is to learn more about it, with an open mind.
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5d ago
Is that a hypothesis that you would discard if it is inconsistent with the evidence, or an article of faith?
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5d ago
> What you seem to suggest is that AI will be able to completely (or at least in a great part) replace mathematicians. There is no bound on the amibitions of AI. AI is set to replace anything done by people , and there won't be any
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5d ago
> Why would autocomplete know If you still believe LLMs are "autocomplete", your cache of understanding about them needs invalidating and regenerating. > In my experience, LLMs only exhibit this kind of behaviour when they a
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5d ago
In that case, that seems like a variation of the "past exonerative tense".
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Limiting the flood wouldn't mean necessarily omitting stories like "new model released" (within reason); it'd mean omitting "check out my new vibecoded slop" or "check out this article that's obviousl
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5d ago
FWIW, I wouldn't recommend turning on all of `clippy::pedantic` as a unit. It's a category of lints, but some of them have much more value than others, and turning them all on may make your experience of Rust feel unpleasant
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> This is true if the arguer is hostile, but as I've gotten older, if I get the sense that someone is entering an argument with the primary goal of "winning", I'll try to avoid that framing or just look for an offramp
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That's fair; when all is said and done, more is said than done. That is much, much better than the more common thing that leads to comments like yours; I think some comments and downvotes come from the assumption that your comments com
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LLMs are unusually good at Rust; it's an optimization target. And the constraints provided by "successfully compile with the Rust compiler" make it work well for agent iteration. (I have mixed feelings about that, but empiric
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It's a wryly amusing thought, but in practice, it's not going to matter if writings about unaligned AI are present in the data set or not. In practice, instrumental convergence means that bad outcomes overlap with the natural subg
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