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Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's
- thecsw 9mo agoA companion to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46054879 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46054879, we now had successfully recovered all the remaining li.st entries of Anthony Bourdain that were thought to be lost to time. Please enjoy—there is nobody like Tony.
- cbarrick 9mo agoAlmost all. According to the article, we are still missing one: "David Bowie Related" 1/14/2016
- coderintherye 9mo agoThe missing David Bowie related list ( https://li.st/l/7SmVwCFEU6JDQ2jKQfeJzh https://li.st/l/7SmVwCFEU6JDQ2jKQfeJzh ) has an image preview shared on Reddit, though sadly not the text https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthonyBourdain/comments/40wkx3/anthony_bourdain_david_bowie_related/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthonyBourdain/comments/40wkx3/ant...
- nomilk 9mo agoThis thread sounds like a community challenge.
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- antihoney 9mo agoVery happy to see these recovered and archived :)! I hope images are able to be recovered, super curious about which records he was talking about.
- throwaway12345t 9mo agolove these, wonder what avenues still exist for the image archives I imagine they exist in an AWS or GCP rack somewhere, too bad
- thecsw 9mo agoSomeone must have their browser untouched since 2015, which has all of the li.st content stored in their cache :D
- qingcharles 9mo agoGoogle still has scrapes of the entire web going back two decades in their archives.
- wintermutestwin 9mo agoI know we shouldn’t be discussing website design, but using light grey font on a white background is not only ugly, it is basically illegible for anyone with oldster eyes.
- bunnybomb2 9mo agoand the dotted background just ever so lightly still visible. Contrast is king
- thecsw 9mo agoTell me more—these colors, #2B2B2B for fg and #F7F3EE for bg pass accessibility checks. See something like coolors [1] or WebAIM [2] You could run something like https://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ https://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ but contrast doesn't mean to run with black/white, http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ is better on the eyes. If it's bothering the eyes, like many more of other websites would, feel free to pull up your favorite browser's reader mode with your preferences. Cheers! [1] https://coolors.co/contrast-checker/2b2b2b-f7f3ee https://coolors.co/contrast-checker/2b2b2b-f7f3ee [2] https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/ https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/
- wffurr 9mo agoRaw colors are not the whole story. Font weight matters too. Being just on this side of passing the check is also not great, just better than bad. Ambient lighting and display quality matter a lot too.
- treesknees 9mo agoAt the risk of being downvoted… for the uninitiated among us, what’s interesting about these or the person? I understand he was a chef and had several TV shows. Is it just celebrity fascination?
- bunnybomb2 9mo agoKind, curious, open minded, down to earth with a big mouth . Like any other common interest. Watching his stuff shows you how to open your eyes
- Papazsazsa 9mo agoHe was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a superficial arrogant lmgtfy'er, disinterested in true discovery. (Heap your downvotes on me HN, I've seen what makes you cheer!) MY BOURDAIN LI.ST: 1) Masculinity without cringe: Tough, profane, credentialed through actual kitchen labor (not culinary school pedigree), but also emotionally literate, openly vulnerable, willing to cry on camera. He modeled a masculinity that wasn't apologetic but also wasn't performative. 2) Articulate outsider: Self-educated. Could reference Conrad, punk rock, and Apocalypse Now while maintaining blue-collar credibility. His book Kitchen Confidential read like a war memoir/crime novel. 3) Permission: He made it acceptable for men to care deeply about food, travel, culture -- interests traditionally female coded. The guy had done heroin and worked the line and was 'allowed' to opine about pho. This was before the internet or at least before the internet got ultra stupid. 4) Wanderer: Not tourism, not expat pretension, something closer to seeking, now dead thanks to social media influencers, and he was curious not escapist. 5) Recovery: Open about addiction, chaos, bad decisions. A redemption narrative for men who've made mistakes. 6) Tragic: Suicide landed hard because many recognized something in him of themselves in him. P.S. He's more elder millennial/genx coded for a lot of reasons so don't feel bad about not getting it but definitely read his book and watch his show, it's different than the slop you're probably used to.
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- tsujamin 9mo ago> Great Dead Bars of New York: > 1. SIBERIA in any of its iterations. The one on the subway being the best. Timely, as the latest reincarnation of SIBERIA just re-opened in 59th Street/Columbus Circle station
- msephton 9mo agoAny movie list that features Tampopo is good by me.
- germinalphrase 9mo agoTampopo is a gem.
- Grosvenor 9mo agoWorthwhile for the hotel and book recommendations. Obviously he has better food taste than I do, so those too. I will shit like a mink and love it.
- haunter 9mo ago>Kramer knives: I don’t own one. I can’t afford one I highly doubt he couldn't afford a $2,500 knife https://kramerknives.com/product-category/latest-creations/ https://kramerknives.com/product-category/latest-creations/
- Wistar 9mo agoA real Kramer is often much, much more than $2,500. Kramer’s mid-line knives go, even used, for $10–$30K while his high-end, rarer stuff goes for much more. In fact, Bourdain had a real Kramer with meteorite used in its construction that sold at auction in 2019 for $231,500. https://www.antiquesandthearts.com/anthony-bourdains-bob-kramer-custom-chefs-knife-cuts-a-path-to-231500-at-lark-mason-auction/ https://www.antiquesandthearts.com/anthony-bourdains-bob-kra... See also, some current mid-line Kramer pricing: https://eatingtools.com/collections/pre-owned https://eatingtools.com/collections/pre-owned
- jimnotgym 9mo agoSo they are not real knives then, just rich boys play things?
- decimalenough 9mo agoPorque no los dos?
- jimnotgym 9mo agoA knife you are scared to use, for fear of damaging it, is not a knife at all
- xandrius 9mo agoThe linked ones are real too. Probably just the economics of making blades might have changed.
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- toomuchtodo 9mo agoKudos to those who performed recovery and snatched back from the sands of time.
- mirandrom 9mo agoI went down the same rabbit hole and did the exact same thing last week in a fit of procrastination. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46185128 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46185128 Would appreciate a shout-out if you saw it and were inspired, otherwise it's nice to see others converging independently on the same thing.
- thecsw 9mo agoOh wow! Did not know that—I went off the original post by Greg and he mentioned to me after I sent him this link that someone looked at Common Crawl as well. Either way, I updated both the git and the webpage to shout-out the week-before-this findings! I linked directly to your website, lmk if that's how you prefer it. Cheers!
- mirandrom 9mo agoMuch appreciated! I'll update my page to link to your much more polished one too :)
- amiban 9mo agothank you very much for doing this. I'm a huge bourdain fan, and despite many of his shortcomings as a human i think he was one of the MOST interesting people in the zeitgeist. just seemed so authentic, real, and visceral. his parts unknown series is some of the best human anthro content ever put on TV. this was a very interesting read!
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- RALaBarge 9mo agoI am big fan and it was sad to me when he died. It’s bizarre to me how much CNN runs content featuring him without ever acknowledging he is dead. You’d think he was alive based on how often they flaunt his content.
- nicwolff 9mo agoHis favorite bar, Siberia, is also back, now at the south end of the Columbus Circle subway station. Same owner, Tracy, and same no-frills atmosphere.
- tedggh 9mo agoLoved his series until he visited my hometown and completely misrepresented it. I get his style was anti establishment and mainstream, but he ended up hanging out with the wrong crowd in town, one of them known for being a fraudster, a spoiled child running bad restaurant after bad restaurant. Somehow these guys managed to be featured in the show as the progressive minds of local cuisine. It made me question everything else I have watched from Bourdain.
- sizzle 9mo agoWhat city so I can avoid that restaurant
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- jama211 9mo agoHe probably didn’t personally vet the politics behind each person, the production team would’ve organised it in advance and he just turns up and goes along with it. That being said it’s still grounds to be skeptical of his shows. Also, please tell us your town
- gnz11 9mo agoThe production crew would have used "fixers" to get insight into good locations for filming and other things of interest. Whatever fixer they used was probably just friends of and/or part of this "wrong" crowd. Bourdain and his producers made a lot of shows over the years, some are going to be better produced while others are flawed. How it goes. Bourdain and his team weren't perfect — doesn't make them inauthentic at a wider perspective.
- jghn 9mo agoNot only this, but depending on which season of which show of his, there may have been other reasons for why spots were chosen. For instance there was at least one season of No Reservations where episodes were themed with the location as a backdrop. The episode he had in my hometown caused a lot of locals to complain that he wasn't choosing the best spots, but the point was the whole episode was a narrative and the spots chosen fit the narrative.
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- vasco 9mo agoPeople who abandon their kids don't really have anything to teach you. There's isn't much worse you can do. But in this case Anthony did that also: > Anthony Bourdain paid a $380,000 settlement to actor Jimmy Bennett in 2018 to silence allegations that Asia Argento had sexually assaulted him in 2013, when Bennett was 17 and Argento was 37 Great role model. People see a guy that looks cool and says edgy shit and that's it, he is now a great person, lol.
- meindnoch 9mo agoI have never been particularly fond of Bourdain, nor have I fully understood the widespread fascination with his jet-setting New York hipster persona. He played a significant role in popularizing a now-familiar posture among affluent Americans: the earnest declaration that "travel is my passion", followed by carefully curated excursions to economically disadvantaged countries, enthusiastic consumption of the local cuisine, and a subsequent return home marked by self-congratulatory reflections on how much they have supposedly "learned" about other cultures. The phenomenon is difficult to admire. It resembles a kind of cultural primitivism - an unintentional revival of archaic rituals in which consuming the body of the enemy was believed to confer insight, power, or spiritual essence. In this modern iteration, wealth functions as the enabling mechanism: privileged travelers fly abroad to ingest cuisines, aesthetics, and experiences, mistaking consumption for understanding and appetite for empathy. One returns, enriched - spiritually, one assumes - having eaten well.
- zild3d 9mo ago> economically disadvantaged countries, enthusiastic consumption of the local cuisine, and a subsequent return home marked by self-congratulatory reflections on how much they have supposedly "learned" about other cultures. There can certainly be a quite shallow "instagram" quality to some traveler's trips, but it's also clear an economically disadvantaged country benefits mutually from this, and if it wasn't they'd be restricting tourist visas, etc
- david-gpu 9mo ago> it's also clear an economically disadvantaged country benefits mutually from this, and if it wasn't they'd be restricting tourist visas, etc Countries are not a monolithic entity. The people in control of the flow of tourists are a tiny minority, and whatever incentives they have to open or close the borders do not reflect what the people who deal with tourists on a daily basis want.
- landryraccoon 9mo agoIt depends on the county of course, but in my experience service workers at many “touristy” countries seem to benefit directly from tourism. For example, some of the workers at resorts in Thailand went to college and studied Tourism, a major I didn’t even know existed, and their wages come directly from the tourist industry. What countries in particular are you thinking of where the locals are very unhappy to see more tourists? I’ve heard Japan might be in that category, and the United States certainly feels that way, but did you experience this yourself?
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