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China says AI CEOs' call for a slowdown is 'fear mongering'
(cnbc.com)
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ericmay
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ericmay
4d ago
Well guns don't kill people on their own. They just sit there. AI might actually be different and just kill people on its own.
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5d ago
> Russia-Ukraine war is important for Europe and perhaps should for the US as well but you can well see that’s not that important for Israel for example. We just decide it's not important then like Europe decides Iran isn't imp
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5d ago
No, it's better now. Most Venezuelans are glad that Maduro is gone and their economy will improve greatly over the next decade or so. The US isn't "getting oil for free".
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5d ago
> They are divesting. No they're not. > Moving gold away from the US, The Netherlands still maintains gold in the US and also divested from Canada. It's also like, $80 billion dollars which is maybe a lot to a tiny country w
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5d ago
> You've posted quite a bit in this thread and repeated a number of things that appear to be factually incorrect. Are you sure that you are well informed and not making biased assumptions? Please cite these things that are factually
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5d ago
You're focusing on the JCPOA and what is clouding your judgement here is you are forgetting that even with the JCPOA Iran was loading up on ballistic missiles and drones, arming militias in Syria, Yemen, Palestine, Iraq, and Lebanon, a
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5d ago
I don’t disagree with your analysis besides a little too much “US/Israel attack”, but my point wasn’t that their regime did things consistent with their regime goals. My point (and I apologize if it wasn’t clear enough) was that wester
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5d ago
Why should we care that Israel is doing bad stuff around? Or Russia? > We don’t care if Trump is doing a deal with criminals to steal oil from Venezuela either so why should the world be so eager to help him steal oil from Iran as well?(
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5d ago
> Throw in the crusades and ongoing holy wars, colonialism, oil, authoritarian regimes, propaganda, alliances, greed, etc - it's no wonder this is still a problem. One of many problems in that part of the world. Are you serious lol.
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5d ago
> We didn't accidentally blow something up. Our military murdered 170 children due to incompetence. You’re calling it incompetence because you have an axe to grind. The US military simply does not intentionally murder children. Ever
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5d ago
> I am not gleeful at all about nuclear proliferation. Quite the opposite. It looks to me like the world order that has kept the western hemisphere peaceful and prosperous over the last 70 years is falling apart. And if AI and robotics t
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> Iran also didn't even want to "just keep following the rules". They accepted extra rules because at that point other countries didn't trust them. We don't monitor other countries like we did with Iran under the
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5d ago
Well we can stop Iran, we already have recently by bombing the sites. They can retaliate of course but they could always do that which is why they built up these missile and drone capabilities and built up militant groups like the Houthis.
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5d ago
I know. It was a rhetorical question. I want the person I was replying to, to admit to these non-defensive activities, or admit to their not following the events closely.
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5d ago
I'll have to dig up some sources later, if I don't then consider the point conceded I guess as a way of holding me to it. The other problem of course if the fundamental "need" to have a JCPOA in the first place. Iran can
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> At no point have I said Iran is a good country doing good things. I didn't say you did. I'm just focused on their wrongdoings and I'm not interested in some accident that the US was involved in. We accidentally blew some
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If it's just standard treatment can you name the other countries where they agreed to the rules, didn't follow them, and then wanted a specific treaty in order to keep them following the rules? Why not just not have a treaty and t
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5d ago
Ok sure, I am not super aware of the intricacies here. But what does it matter?
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5d ago
Ok then what's the problem? We abducted some random criminal guy and nothing changed for Venezuela (which you know is a lie lol) except the US gets access to oil (which helps bring down global prices) and to stop Russian shadow fleet t
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5d ago
> Good luck with non proliferation Hey I mean this is your problem too, wherever you are from. You seem a little nonchalant about nuclear proliferation which most consider to be a rather serious matter because of the potential for real n
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Sorry I do not follow this line of reasoning at all. Iran signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Then they started a nuclear program, then they wanted some sort of special treaty, and yet they aren't being treated specially or di
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> It's not based on anything, then. Don't care then. The premise of having to have the agreement in the first place is faulty, so arguments about who was following it and in what sneaky way are simply irrelevant. > Other cou
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> You introduced a whataboutalism. I pointed out whataboutalisms are ridiculous when it comes to dead children. Sure, but you should be talking Iran killing people since they killed many more and did so on purpose instead of on acciden
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5d ago
The ability to fire the weapon matters too. You need a delivery mechanism.
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> These are well-known, non-controversial facts. Yes, like India successfully tested their first nuclear weapon in 1974, not 1998 like you are asserting.
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How are you defining large? Geography? Population? Certainly you've got countries like Brazil or South Africa or Indonesia. I'm sure we could think of a few more.
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> When are you talking about and what is that based on? It was the US that withdrew; the other countries continued. US intelligence concluded that Iran had no nuclear weapons program (or maybe, no active one; I don't recall). They&#
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> and other countries will follow You sound gleeful about the idea of nuclear proliferation. It's unfortunate that so many have stopped caring about the institutions and liberal world order we created. Oh well. If/once Iran get
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> Okay, then by your arguments about Iran, we should be invading Israel right? Like right now! They cannot be allowed to have nukes! This is immature. If you wanted to use that logic we should invade Russia and China too, and of course t
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