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US diesel hits record $6 a gallon on Iran supply shock
- juliusceasar 7d agoThe whole world is suffering because of this 2nd Epstein War. Current administration being blackmailed by Israel.
- Kelteseth 7d agoOnly the countries that have not yet transitioned to clean energy
- XorNot 7d agoThat's all of them.
- vrganj 7d agoMaybe this war will change that?
- toasty228 7d agoUnless you're ready to give up on a lot of convenience this is just not happening.
- vrganj 7d agoHmm, I think for me personally the only thing I'd need to change is the heating in my apartment and I'm already planning to invest in a heat pump.
- xienze 7d agoYes, the things that affect your lifestyle w.r.t. oil are contained to just you and your apartment.
- vrganj 7d agoInstead of a sarcastic swipe, you could try making an actual argument and tell me how I would personally be affected.
- xienze 7d agoWell let's start with goods and services being more expensive?
- toasty228 7d agoMost clothes, food, medicine, every bit of plastic you own, the tools used to make your heat pump, the rebar in your apartment walls, etc. none of this exists without fossil fuel, or at least not at this price/scale
- seb1204 7d agoYou are not wrong, but there is no reason to assume that things can't change. A heat pump irrespective of the material it's made of will be better than a gas heater over its life.
- toasty228 6d ago> You are not wrong, but there is no reason to assume that things can't change. No reason to assume that we can change either. 99.99% of progress we enjoy today came from burning non renewable shit, if you think we can change paradigm while keeping all our cheap convenience and technologies I think you're making a bigger bet than I am
- lazyasciiart 7d agoFor you personally, I'm guessing your lifestyle depends very heavily on everyone in the apartments and buildings around you, and the grocery stores that supply you, and the roads that they move goods over, and the materials they manufacture in order to distribute power and water and collect sewage....so unless all of them have transitioned, I think you're overestimating your resilience to the loss of fossil fuels.
- toasty228 7d agoI'd wager 90% of things you own and do wouldn't exist without fossil fuels, including your heat pump and your apartment
- seb1204 7d agoI think this war has resulted in some speed increases in some changes, e.g. ev adoption, electric trucks. Still lots to do
- LunaSea 7d agoThat's basically all countries
- toasty228 7d agoThere is no clean energy, we don't know how to build any of the "clean energy" harvestors without using massive amount of fossil fuel.
- chpatrick 7d agohttps://iea-pvps.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Fact-Sheet-IEA-PVPS-T12-23-LCA-update-2022.pdf https://iea-pvps.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Fact-Sheet-I... Making and using a modern solar panel emits up to 44 grams of CO2 equivalent greenhouse gas per kWh over its lifetime as opposed to up to 1000 grams for fossil fuel generators. That's 20x cleaner.
- toasty228 7d agoSure buddy, now go make me a solar panel without using fossil fuel, including mining, refining, processing, etc.
- chpatrick 7d agoThat's included in the number, buddy. Read the report. https://iea-pvps.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/IEA-PVPS-LCI-report-2020.pdf https://iea-pvps.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/IEA-PVPS-LCI...
- cjrp 7d agoAnd countries that import goods. If you supply chain needs diesel, you're going to be paying more.
- Kelteseth 7d agoIn Germany we have had a great influx of electric trucks in the last year
- spiclk 7d ago"clean" - only at the point of use! (I'm using the traditional definition of "clean", as in, "not making a mess").
- lotsofpulp 7d agoI thought reduced fossil fuel usage benefits the world.
- TomWhitwell 7d ago“In 2025, the global fleet of EVs avoided the consumption of around 1.7 million barrels of oil per day” https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2026/executive-summary https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2026/executive...
- za3faran 6d agoHopefully more people start realizing this. It's been happening behind the scenes for way too long, but now it's out in the open, they don't care about hiding it anymore.
- OgsyedIE 7d agoAlso driving the price up are the Ansarallah advances in Yemen and today's Ansarallah bombings of the Saudi East-West pipeline. The market expects that they'll use military force to attempt to close the Bab al-Mandab strait, with their past attempts at closing the strait, stated goals of closing the strait and newly reported use of Claude to develop medium-range ballistic missile guidance software as evidence.
- larodi 7d agoWould be surprising if they don't in fact. In fact it is perhaps quite straightforward to skip Claude and rather tell Qwen 3.8 27b to create an angry birds clone where you track the bird... or something along the line. Pretty sure they are also very good at smuggling various assets through borders, and where not.
- riffraff 7d agoAlso Related: Saudi Arabia’s crude output falls to lowest level since 1990 https://finance.yahoo.com/energy/articles/saudi-arabia-crude-output-falls-125456513.html https://finance.yahoo.com/energy/articles/saudi-arabia-crude...
- fabian2k 7d agoIt also looks like the US is reducing the amount of oil drawn from the strategic reserves (https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCSSTUS1&f=W https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=W...), that could also affect the price. But the hostilities heating up overall is probably the largest effect.
- jst1fthsdys 6d ago> newly reported use of Claude to develop medium-range ballistic missile guidance software as evidence. Why would they use Claude? Iran, China, and Russia have far more advanced MRBM systems than the US. So unless Claude is training on top secret info that the US military doesn't even have, they would be getting worse information than just talking to their allies.
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- epolanski 7d agoWhich people? Because the responsibility lies in the founding fathers thinking that electing kings with little to no checks was a good idea.
- defrost 7d agoFranklin was pretty specific, it was a good enough Constitution "for now" with a rickety set of checks and balances that'd do for a while .. until a Despot showed up. He was thinking of "the people" having an ongoing scrutiny and active control to prevent any such slide .. rather than sitting about on their arses, not voting and counting on using guns if it got too bad.
- swarnie 7d agoCome on, you can't keep trying to interrupt the intentions of some blokes who have been dead for 200 years. This isn't 40k.
- dang 6d agoCould you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly, and we've asked you before. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- expedition32 7d agoIt's quite funny how Trump is killing European industry. Literally everything America has been doing the last few years has benefited China. The Chinese economy has real weaknesses make no mistake about it and a competent US leader could have worked with his global allies to exploit them.
- cpursley 7d agoThey started that path to economic suicide by deciding they don't want cheap gas as well as shutting down reactors. Well, depending on your geopolitical beliefs, entire situation was possibility coordinated to get Europe on American LNG and off the stuff piped from Rusland and the Middle East. This was all in play well before Orange Man, but wow did he push the gas pedal down and accelerate it (pun intended). BTW there's only one way out of it, but many Europeans aren't going to like the medicine nor the global primacy people running the USA.
- yolo3000 7d agoCheap gas from the Russians? No thank you
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- johneth 7d ago> they don't want cheap gas You don't strengthen an enemy (Russia) by buying their products. Defence is more important. > as well as shutting down reactors A German problem, not a wider European one. The solution is to accelerate the transition into electric vehicles (including HGVs etc.), renewable energy, and nuclear. Oil is obviously still needed for materials production, air fuel, and so on, but extricating ourselves from situations where oil is becoming optional as fast as possible is the best course, not continuing to buy cheap gas from an aggressive neighbour that's fucking your elections and invading its neighbour.
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- larodi 7d agoAlmost nearing the price in Europe. So still early to complain.
- LoganDark 7d agoThis reminds me of when people were calling the UK a bunch of wimps for complaining about record high heat of like 80F, just because Americans have been dealing with 100F or more for years (over 100 years in some cases). So what that prices in Europe have already been higher? Prices in America haven't been, so it's a shock to them.
- roryirvine 7d agoMore of a shock, if anything - the higher taxes in Europe act to damp price swings, so sudden rises like this hit America proportionately more.
- LoganDark 7d agoI heard that a relative lack of air conditioners in the UK made the higher temperatures hit them proportionally more than the US too. In both cases my point is that of course it's shocking to suddenly hit circumstances you're unprepared for.
- larodi 6d agowonder how it is a shock, given all that leads to higher prices is in the news for everyone since March at least. will restrain myself for further geopolitical context, but you get my point. and, yeah, people in UK and most of EU also saw the heat (literally) coming for years... so the comparison is very apt indeed.
- spiclk 7d agoThe "just stop oil" folks must be delighted with the direction of things in the middle east.
- mcv 7d agoI would prefer to stop the demand rather than the supply. The high prices encourage production elsewhere.
- spiclk 7d agoHow do we stop the demand for plastics (and any other number of process chemicals) and fertiliser? Also - while it may encourage production at other sites with a higher cost of production, higher prices in general will slow demand.
- mcv 7d agoAnd high prices may also encourage alternatives. Energy can be replaced by renewables. There are alternatives for various uses of plastics. And I thought manure was a pretty good fertiliser. Not everything needs to be replaced, but it would help a lot if we replace what we can.
- seb1204 7d agoAgreed, what does not help or get us anywhere is the throw hands in the air gesture from grandparent.
- spiclk 7d agoWe're going to need a lot of EV trucks, to transport the ~2 billion tons of manure.
- mcv 6d agoThe manure already needs to be dealt with anyway. Does it really matter whether we're transporting oil or manure? Surplus manure is also causing environmental problems. Why are we using fertiliser if there's too much manure?
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- amelius 7d agoBut no worries, we'll soon get $5,000 from the US government and this will allow us to buy plenty of gas.
- kotaKat 7d agoDon't forget the $5000 DOGE dividend, the $2000 tariff refunds, the $500 Obamacare refunds, and the thousands+ in Trump Accounts! (But $10k in student loan relief? That's Socialist!)
- mcv 7d agoIf all of that is possible, why not just provide a reliable basic income? Why does it need to feel like a politician is bribing you for your vote?
- amelius 7d ago"feel like" ?
- danbruc 7d agoA basic income does not really change the amount of money people have available. You exchange paying some amount of taxes and handing the money to people qualifying for government benefits for paying more taxes and handing out money to everyone. You may save some money on the bureaucracy for figuring out who is eligible for how much benefits, you may make life easier for people having to apply for benefits, but you also give up the ability to match benefits to individual circumstances making some better and others worse off, you may create some additional incentive not to take a job, ... But to a first approximation everyone will have the same amount of money available.
- ZeroGravitas 7d agoOften the incentive to take a job would be better under Basic Income as there's so many cliff edge benefits that phase out quickly as you work/earn more in the current system.
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- comrade1234 7d agoYesterday I saw a full-sized 100% electric Volvo semi-truck here in Zurich. It was owned by Aldi and making a delivery to one of their stores. It was a bit louder than I expected but nevertheless impressive. https://www.aldi-suisse.ch/de/ueber-aldi-suisse/unternehmen/medien/medienmitteilungen/aldi-suisse-faehrt-gruener-mit-erstem-vollelektrischem-lkw https://www.aldi-suisse.ch/de/ueber-aldi-suisse/unternehmen/...
- jonny2811 7d ago"Der Volvo-Lastwagen, der für ein Gesamtgewicht von 42 Tonnen zugelassen ist und eine Reichweite von bis zu 320 Kilometern hat" 320km doesn't seem like a long distance for a truck, curious how that works in practice
- stavros 7d ago320km seems like a very long distance to go without a rest stop.
- _djo_ 7d agoIt's optimised for distance to and from the depot and in-city store locations. Presumably it charges at the depot while loading. Trucks have a lot more space for batteries, so with EV trucks it's all about balancing range and weight for the task. More range means less useful load.
- defrost 7d agoSome Australian electric prime movers (truck that pulls the load on trailers) are using a fork lift in / fork lift out swappable giant battery pack - 10 minute change over from truck to charging station, freshly charged unit back to truck.
- seb1204 6d agohttps://januselectric.com/ https://januselectric.com/
- jaapz 7d ago6 dollars per gallon is 1.37 EUR per liter... Here I am in the netherlands paying 2.74 EUR for a liter of diesel...
- randomNumber7 7d agoThis caps the amount of CO2 you can emit; which is good :)
- jaapz 7d agoI personally think forcing less well off people to use worse modes of transport (or not travel at all) is not a well thought out scheme for reducing environmental impact. For me, it doesn't matter because my main mode of transport is an EV - but it's a luxury I can afford. Many people that live around me cannot. It just means these people donate more of their money to the wallets of already absurdly rich owners of companies like Shell and Exxon - instead of using it to enrich their own lives (see the increased profits these companies are making since Iran). But at least on a positive note, EV sales in my country have never been higher since Trump invaded Iran, so it is somewhat triggering the well-off to finally make the ("scary") switch to EV's.
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- ZeroGravitas 7d agoThe EU imports 97 percent of their crude oil, which is needed to refine diesel and still import a further 10% of their refined diesel. It is somewhat amazing that Europe hasn't embraced electrification even more but taxing diesel use to encourage using it wisely is a smart geopolitical play given their situation.
- jaapz 7d agoTax was already high on diesel fuels and cars, which is fine. The most recent rise in price is only due to market prices going up.
- bigcheeto 7d agoI bet they post record profits
- beloch 7d ago"War is merely the continuation of policy by other means." "Since war is not an act of senseless passion but is controlled by its political object, the value of this object must determine the sacrifices to be made for it in magnitude and also in duration. Once the expenditure of effort exceeds the value of the political object, the object must be renounced and peace must follow." ---------- Clausewitz would have been flabbergasted by this war. If we're being overly generous to Trump, we might call it an act of senseless passion. The reality is probably worse. The U.S. still hasn't seemed to figure out what it's policy goals or winning conditions are, aside from the president's desire to be an all-powerful winner. Trump seemingly places no value on his nation's blood or treasure, so it might be a very long time before he begins to feel the effort his nation is expending isn't worth the value of his own vanity. The U.S. needs to have its magna carta moment and reign in its mad king. Maybe that will come with the mid-terms, or maybe this war will drag on for two more years. Trump isn't going to stop it, now or after the mid-terms. As far as he's concerned, the pain isn't his.
- watwut 7d agoMaybe we (and Clausewitz) needlessly rationalize past leaders as those rational actor ignoring their emotional passions. Trump puts emotions and passions right there in the open, not bothering with plausible denialities. Hegseth is open and proud on his "we do it to show we are masculine" doctrine. But, none of them is a new kind of guy like no one ever heard about before. Emotional irrational men were always present, always seeking power, sometimes getting it. We just strip that side of them, pretending it was calculated and rational.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 7d agoThe political objectives for the war were Netanyahu's who managed quite the move in getting Trump to commit to this. But still an open question how much his motives were rationally objective or senseless passion.
- disgruntledphd2 6d agoEven Bibi has been screwed by this war, because it hasn't made Israel safer, and he's got an election coming up.
- zhivota 7d agoI'd say this should push Americans towards smaller, more fuel efficient cars and EVs, but I know better. The American consumer seems immune to price pressure.