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Claude Fable 5 Promotional Access
- Avrio15272 2mo ago[dead]
- LoganDark 3mo agoTook em long enough! Now to see how many turns I get on Max 20x before it's effectively inaccessible indefinitely for me.
- dwaltrip 3mo agoIt's back baby! runs script to submit the 50 prompts I prepared overnight
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- nonethewiser 3mo agoI wonder what brought them into compliance.
- himata4113 3mo agothe classifier is very picky, working with languages such as C I get cyber refusals and random reasoning_extraction errors.
- anonym29 3mo agoIt's gone from bad to unbelievably bad. Just a prompt with the single word "virus" was enough to get downgraded to O4.8 before the ban. "Tell me a story about a man named CVE." gets me downgraded now. "CVE-" gets me downgraded and broken reasoning with no response. "Giant crane fly, 2 feet wide" gets me downgraded.
- Schiendelman 3mo agoIs it likely that it keeps track of what you said recently and decides whether you might be referring to things you've previously been downgraded for? I haven't been downgraded once, either a few weeks ago for the three days it was live, or since I got it back today.
- anonym29 3mo ago>Is it likely that it keeps track of what you said recently and decides whether you might be referring to things you've previously been downgraded for? I have no special knowledge here, it feels rather unproductive for me to speculate. Out of curiosity, if you're comfortable trying any of them, do any of the above prompts cause you to get downgraded?
- Schiendelman 3mo agoGood question! I'll give them a shot when I'm back to my computer.
- Schiendelman 3mo agoI went last to first, and I was not blocked.
- anonym29 3mo agoThanks for trying and for sharing results here. This is a pretty interesting data point and suggests something I don't think I've read about: the possibility that safeguards may not be account-invariant; that two different users might be getting downgraded or blocked differently for the same prompts. This raises some really interesting ethical questions in my mind, but I suppose I need to do more reading and research on this before anything else.
- Schiendelman 3mo ago
- baggachipz 3mo agoGold statues, ring-kissing, and total fealty to the military's desires?
- mortenjorck 3mo agoFrom the original announcement last month: > After this point-when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this as quickly as we can. From today: > After July 7, 2026, Claude Fable 5 is no longer included in your plan’s weekly usage limits. You can keep using Claude Fable 5 through usage credits, which let you pay for usage beyond what your plan includes.
- Avicebron 3mo agoThat's such a bitter "never let a crisis go to waste" pill
- wongarsu 3mo agoTo be fair, the initial deal was two weeks of access to Fable, then you have to pay (or they might be generous and extend it, as per above quote). Then for everyone outside the US the second week didn't happen. This is basically that second week. The only slightly bitter thing is only being allowed to use 50% of the weekly limit on Fable
- anamexis 3mo agoIt didn't happen for everyone inside the US, either. Also I believe it was only available for 2 days.
- freedomben 3mo ago> Then for everyone outside the US I'm in the US, and I can promise you that it wasn't just for people outside the US that it was taken away
- Farmadupe 3mo agoIs it too cynical to read the first quote as "when openai catch up, we will restore fable 5 to subscription plans"? In other words, they're saying "We know have a monopoloy and we will take all of your money until someone offers a cheaper competing product"? And "We intend to do this as quickly as we can" read as a non-promise then as much as it does now? --- Well, I am assuming that this is all based on the fact that Anthropic have enough compute capacity to serve fable 5 now and in the future, and they're "only" limiting it in the coming week to get richer quicker. Since compute hardware is presumably relatively un-fungible, I'm assuming Anthropic isn't offering a week of fable-5 for everyone on rented hardware that they're paying exporbitant fees for? In other words, my cynical read is "if they can serve it under the terms of subscription plans for a week", then they could serve it under the same terms for a month?
- egamirorrim 3mo agoI'm so disappointed that Anthropic are jerking us around so much with Fable. Really makes me feel like cattle they're unsubtly milking.
- joe_mamba 3mo agoI can't wait for China to launch a Fable-like model for 20% the cost and bomb Anthropic
- _davide_ 3mo ago"promotion" like they are doing you a favor just this once out of their goodwill... Really really really pissed me off
- countcol 3mo agoThis seems like the most normal use of the term that I could imagine..?
- _davide_ 3mo agoIt isn't a promotion, it's 2x the parameters of opus and we are paying with 2x the consumption rate. They just want to get rid of the subscription model.
- user43928 3mo agoThe wording on initial launch was: "For subscription plans, we’d rather give access sooner than later, so we’re rolling out more conservatively, in stages: From today through June 22, Fable 5 is included on Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans at no extra cost. On June 23, we’ll remove Fable 5 from those plans. Using it after that will require usage credits. If capacity allows, we’ll extend the included window. After this point—when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this as quickly as we can." Now it's a "promotion" that we get to access to Fable for 9 days instead of the original 14 days announced. They are generously throwing in a special halving of the usage "at no extra cost", and freely admit that their classifier is broken and will need to be improved. Well thanks!
- wongarsu 3mo agoEveryone did get the first 7 of the original 14 days before the export ban. Now everyone gets another 7 days. Limiting it to half the weekly limit stings, but if you have a quota reset in the middle of it you still get effectively one weekly limit. (does everyone's quota now reset on Saturdays?)
- thrill 3mo agoI'm disappointed with this. Historically, Claude's API cost a significant multiple of their subscription pricing, and after the promotional period it appears the access to Fable will be API only, if I understand this. There actually is a limit to what people will pay for model usage, and I suppose this squeeze is one way to find out what that limit is. I've been content paying $200 per month for a solid plan that I actually don't quite use up every month, but this new vector really rubs me the wrong way.
- freely0085 3mo agoIt's estimated their margins on API pricing is 10x.
- dyauspitr 3mo agoThe worst part of this is are they even training the next generation anymore? Why do it when the government has decided that US LLMs are at the peak of what they will allow consumer access to.
- cyanydeez 3mo agoIPO is when new models become economic hirdles.
- theplumber 3mo agoI bet my house that after the promotional stuff ends they will change their mind and let you keep using Fable on subscription. Otherwise this is the end of their marketshare. These guys are complete idiots. I give them that
- mritchie712 3mo agoif gpt5.6 is out by July 7th, Fable will stay in the Max plan to at least some degree.
- lnenad 3mo agoYup, it's wild watching this happen live.
- rapfaria 3mo agoBold of you to think individuals are a big part of their marketshare and explosive growth. My company introduced enterprise last month and the bill was US$110k for a few dozen folks using it Claude Code and Design. Do the Pro and Max plans help with word of mouth and whatnot? Sure, but the individual with a Max plan (or 4...) are all subsidized by the big spenders
- nlh 3mo agoI hate that you're right, but you're right. Twitter and HN can scream and yell as loud as they want but the fact is, enterprises are going to use Fable via API and pay the bills. In fact, restricting individuals probably makes it MORE likely that enterprises will pony up.
- cyanydeez 3mo agountill the VC cash stops going brrrrrr
- user43928 3mo agoThat is doubtful. Many enterprises still yap about "choosing the right model for the task" and Sonnet, as if it would magically become better by holding it differently. To make engineers ask for Fable at work, you first need to give them a taste of what it can do at home. What better than greenfield side projects, unconstrained by the overhead at work?
- usernamed7 3mo agothis is "too little, too late" for me. I'll stick with opus 4.8.
- _davide_ 3mo agoI'm tempted as well, just out of spite
- taytus 3mo agoAnthropic is the most idiotic corporation in America, right now.
- peterspath 3mo agoFor sure idiotic leadership.
- guptadagger 3mo agoi think they've got everyone by the balls with how addicted they are to their products
- cindyllm 3mo ago[dead]
- ahsillyme 3mo agoSince this will not be able to be used for coding or code auditing, what use is it? Not being glib, not a rhetorical question. I'm trying to stretch my creativity, and I can't see what it's for.
- enraged_camel 3mo agoYou can use it for coding. The relaunch announcement was just poorly worded.
- nlh 3mo agoIt's usable for coding and code auditing. The classifier will have some false-positives and some tasks will be downgraded to 4.8 if it's security-adjacent (I presume), but otherwise there's no restrictions on using this for coding.
- vitally3643 3mo agoAnthropic is really giving AMD a run for their money as king of "never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity". I don't think I've ever seen a company so determined to shit their own pants. It's astonishing, really.
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- g42gregory 3mo agoSo is this a part of the "first hit is free" campaign? If it won't be available on subscription past July 7, what is the point of using it for 7 days now? Shouldn't our energy be better spent elsewhere?
- ludamad 3mo agoIt's already solved some problems I was blocked on for side-projects. I don't feel I have spent energy, and will go back to Opus after July 7th, minus a few hard problems being solved.
- quantisan 3mo agothey want our interaction data
- hadlock 3mo agoThis is the correct answer
- wongarsu 3mo agoI spent the first seven days of free Fable on having it analyze multiple code bases for performance issues and for various kinds of bugs. That got me a lot of tickets for opus to work through over time
- bavell 3mo agoFable was only available for a few days, not seven.
- sailfast 3mo agoApparently they hired some payday loans marketing folks recently? As much as I like(d) Anthropic and their approach to being a lab / PBC, if you hire that many people that fast for that much money, it’s inevitable that you end up with some of the same grifters that destroyed the internet. Seems hard to stop them somehow from also destroying their next company.
- jazzpush2 3mo agoCompletely fails for anything bio-related. What a joke.
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- Schiendelman 3mo agoThis makes sense to me. Consider these assumptions: 1) During peak times, they're already struggling to meet demand. They've figured out that 50% should be achievable without causing too much pain for existing users, and by setting a limit, more users will use it for architecture and then switch back to Opus 4.8 for implementation. 2) They need data on how people are using it at scale to figure out when it should fire up Opus or Haiku agents. They need to be careful not to have a model that kills your usage cap halfway through the week, and they need time to bake in balance. I think people are reading too much into them not reiterating that they want to offer it in Max subscriptions in the future too. Of course they do, they want to compete! I think they're trying to avoid setting up expectations right now because of all this backlash, so they didn't restate something that might make people mad. I don't even think they miscalculated - I think we're being hyper-nitpicky. I would expect that by late July, they'll figure out the balance, and either offer a higher tier Max subscription (40x for $300, perhaps), or have Fable drop to Opus for implementation consistently, and then start offering Fable again in the Max subscriptions. They need to do something to make sure a Fable user doesn't just hit their head on the ceiling all the time.
- user43928 3mo agoI have been positively surprised by the current usage limits on the Max 5x plan. I think it might even be suitable for full time work, if the $200 plan gives four times the usage. Particularly if they also remove the halving in the future. I am not holding my breath for them adding an even more subsidized subscription tier.
- Schiendelman 3mo agoDon't assume the current subscription tiers are subsidized. We don't know, and it's entirely possible that even the $200 a month plan is not. Remember that Anthropic makes improvements to their models to use fewer tokens all the time, and we don't know how much they pass that on to us. "Usage" is not one-to-one with tokens, either.
- hungryhobbit 3mo agoThis is all marketing BS: FABLE IS NOT BACK (for programmers at least)! See https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1ukcmji/fable_is_going_to_be_redirecting_coding_task_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1ukcmji/fable_is_... Anthropic switches you back to Opus whenever you code! But what I find truly offensive is that there's no mention of that anywhere in the page linked above. That page makes the "grand gesture" of supposedly giving away free Fable ... when no such thing is happening (again, at least, not for coders).
- skerit 3mo agoThat's not true, but it's their own fault for being so utterly terrible at communication. It only drops back to Opus for some prompts, just like before. The longer blogpost was a bit less vague about this.
- hungryhobbit 3mo agoDid you read link? >In the near term, some routine tasks like coding and debugging will fallback to Opus 4.8 Those are Anthropic's words, not mine (although, again, they do not appear anywhere in the page where they magnanimously offer everyone "free Fable"!
- cute_boi 3mo agoThis is very expensive model. Just tried 2-3 prompts and my 5 hour from 20x plan is exhausted...
- gck1 3mo agoSince Anthropic has eroded all the trust it could possibly have, I'm going to allow myself to be cynical and say that this move is just another pillar of their shady marketing practices. I know a few real persons who will praise Fable solely because it's scarce and unavailable to them. Heck, they've already been doing that in the past month, as if Fable allowed them to do unimaginable things. And once this play has done its job, Anthropic is going to come as a savior and put it back into subscription, driving even more hysteria and visibility. There's probably a name for this tactic in some marketing playbook which I'm unaware of.
- ecommerceguy 3mo agoYawn, after Toasts AI provided me with very incorrect sales numbers, I'm scaling back ai use. Its glorified search for non coders at best.
- dayone1 3mo agoI can't even a benign code review - it triggers the safety message halfway through and switches to Opus. Borderline unusable.
- sva_ 3mo agoall usage has been reset. lez go!
- dang 3mo agoRelated ongoing thread: Fable 5 Is Back - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48752030 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48752030 - July 2026 (133 comments)
- sothatsit 3mo agoYou can get away with a lot when you have the best models… I’m looking forward to OpenAI or open-source catching up so we have some competition again.
- freely0085 3mo agoWow this is a crazy bait and switch. Surprised it's even legal.
- DonsDiscountGas 3mo agoI really hope they improve their guardrails. It's useless to me in life science.
- QuantumGood 3mo agoCue 27 framings of what is happening/what will happen next, with 27^3 re-framings.
- georgian11 3mo agowru
- raxxorraxor 3mo agoIt is great to also receive the promotion, but then you are in Europe and are banned from using "dangerous" AI by the US :)
- kokonuts 3mo agoYes, a shame the EU didn't have the courage to ban this surveillance system themselves now that its clearly hooked straight into room 641A.
- amukbils 2mo agoWhen you build something people REALLY want, you can pull of ridiculous stunts like Claude's pricing: - Vague limits - Weekly/monthly usage stats ?? - 50% of your usage on Fable 5 - $200/mo subscription that doesn't include Fable 5 - But you can use it with "usage credits"