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Irish man detained by ICE for 5 months
- xphos 7mo agoCourt doc was hidden by flagged post [1] https://www.universalhub.com/files/attachments/2026/culleton-ruling.pdf https://www.universalhub.com/files/attachments/2026/culleton...
- TitaRusell 7mo ago[flagged]
- goatlover 7mo agoWhy is it understandable that ICE goes after people from developing countries? That being said, I don't know how ICE is allowed to detain anyone for months and move them around so they're hard to locate. Sounds extremely illegal and unconstitutional. Don't know why anyone supports this BS. Really makes me feel sad for my country.
- danudey 7mo agoI think the implication is that people from third-world countries want what the US has so they're likely to take more risks to come to/stay in the US, whereas visitors from other western countries are less likely to stay because they have less to gain and more to lose if they're caught. It comes across as pretty racist the way they said it, but a charitable interpretation does make sense despite that.
- muricula 7mo agoSo you don't care if injustice happens to other people, only if it could happen to you?
- unethical_ban 7mo agoI had a family member imply that it's okay for ICE to stop and harass non white people because "let's face it, most illegals aren't white". Rights are optional, for other people.
- rayiner 7mo ago[flagged]
- pavel_lishin 7mo ago> The man concedes he came to the U.S. illegally. Not according to the article? > "And I did, I complied with everything they said. They asked me if I had a Green Card, I said I didn't, I said I was married to a citizen and that I had a marriage-based petition in place and I was just about to receive my Green Card and that I had a work permit to be here and work." > He said he had received the work permit about "a month or so earlier", so as far as he knew he was covered.
- 0xy 7mo agoYou are completely incorrect. An Employment Authorization Document, which he is referring to, does not imply or confer ANY immigration status.
- nextaccountic 7mo agohttps://universityfinance.richmond.edu/payroll/international/employment/authorization.html https://universityfinance.richmond.edu/payroll/international... An EAD gives a person legal status to work in the United States but has fewer privileges than a green card.
- 0xy 7mo agoAgain, completely false. An EAD does not issue ANY immigration status, period. He had no legal status prior to marriage and still has no legal status because he has no green card and has racked up 20 years of overstay. EADs are not issued to people with immigration status (eg. citizens or permanent residents). It is ONLY issued to those with no status.
- reverius42 7mo agoIf "immigration" and "work authorization" are two completely different things, are you claiming that everyone in the US on a work visa is an "illegal immigrant"? Surely "having work authorization" counts as some kind of legal status or we wouldn't have people on work visas at all.
- josefritzishere 7mo agoIncreasingly this seems like a scam intended to re-route my tax dollars into the private prison corporations that donate to the Trump campaign. What purpose other purpose could this possibly serve?
- pixl97 7mo agoGetting Americans used to imprisoning every one they want.
- rayiner 7mo ago[flagged]
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- goatlover 7mo agoAustralia's mandatory detention is controversial. I don't see why people need to be detained while they have ongoing court cases. I don't see what harm an undocumented person causes by simply being in the country. Most of them are not criminals, they're just here for better living conditions, work opportunities or family. Moving people around detention centers to hide them from lawyers and families, while too often ignoring court orders and due process is also extremely concerning. As are the poor conditions often reported in these detention facilities. The process should be humane and legal.
- rayiner 7mo ago> I don't see why people need to be detained while they have ongoing court cases. Because it turns the immigration system on its head. People come to the U.S., stay for years while court proceedings drag on, and in most cases the government eventually gives up. The U.S. issues 65,000 or so skilled worker visas annually, but over a million people enter illegally. At that point, why even bother having an immigration system? > Most of them are not criminals, they're just here for better living conditions, work opportunities or family. Do you think keeping out criminals is why we have an immigration system?
- ghouse 7mo agoDue process under the US Constitution protects everyone in the US, not just US citizens.
- rayiner 7mo ago[flagged]
- nyeah 7mo agoThe man clearly states that he is here legally, under a work permit.
- ghouse 7mo agoThe Sixth Amendment guarantees the right to a speedy, public trial in criminal prosecutions, protecting defendants from excessive, prejudicial delays between indictment or arrest and trial.
- throwway120385 7mo agoThere's also a line in the Constitution about "cruel and unusual punishment" which this would surely fit.
- guywithahat 7mo agoSure but the courts have ruled that a "speedy trial" can take years (I don't agree with this, it's just what the courts have decided). Additionally if you're not a US citizen you don't necessarily have all the same rights as a citizen, and your case is processed in civil court. Anyone can be detained, and a good judge won't release illegal immigrants from detention since they're just not going to return to court until after their hearing.
- asacrowflies 7mo agoConstitution also garuntees a speedy trial and specifically calls out these type of long detentions without conviction or trial being used as punishment.
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- cdrnsf 7mo agoRegardless of the circumstances, if you're not a US citizen I would encourage you to not travel to the US. Even if you _are_ a US citizen you may well be harassed and abused by ICE.
- NedF 7mo ago[dead]
- zombot 7mo agoThat's how terror works, it can hit anyone, any time.
- 0xy 7mo agoThe Irish man you're referring to fled Ireland because of drug dealing charges, by the way. He's a fugitive.
- cdrnsf 7mo agoThe situation would have been handled appropriately under previous administrations without deploying a paramilitary to kill civilians in the street.
- 0xy 7mo agoOh really? Tell me more about this appropriate handling, let's start with Bill Clinton and Obama. [1] [2] [1] https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/EU2PLBAPSUI6VESMWNGQTO6JJA.jpg https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.c... [2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/kids-in-cages-debate-trump-obama/2020/10/23/8ff96f3c-1532-11eb-82af-864652063d61_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/kids-in-cages-deb...
- unethical_ban 7mo ago[edit- not accurate currently]
- johnnyanmac 7mo agoLooks like this actually got unflagged if it was flagged before. That's rare here.