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On Front Porch Forum, politics is fair game but unkindness is prohibited

• eevilspock 2y ago
  https://archive.is/5Je01 https://archive.is/5Je01
• bell-cot 2y ago
  > A text-heavy, newsletter-based site that reads like a cross between a neighborhood internet mailing list and a small-town newspaper’s letters-to-the-editor section, Front Porch Forum seems an unlikely candidate to outcompete the big social media platforms. It has achieved critical mass in the Green Mountain State not by embracing the growth hacks, recommendation algorithms and dopamine-inducing features that power most social networks, but by eschewing them. > While most tech giants view content moderation as a necessary evil, Front Porch Forum treats it as a core function. Twelve of its 30 full-time employees spend their days reading every user post before it’s published, rejecting any that break its rules against personal attacks, misinformation or spam. > The process is slow and laborious, but it seems to work. Front Porch Forum is the highest-scoring platform ever on New_ Public’s “Civic Signals” criteria, which attempt to measure the health of online communities. Tiny, not quickly scalable, and probably not profitable enough to make anyone even slightly rich. But very good for human beings. What are your priorities?
  • aredox 2y ago
    Twitter, Facebook & co could have hired millions of people and paid them magnanimously with the billions they make to scale moderation up. (Billions are really huge sums of money that people can't really fathom) Instead they choose not to, and let the parts of the internet they cornered enshitify and pollute the rest of society. Ironically had they done so, they would have now far more data to train moderation AI on. Instead they only have haphazard data
    • gruez 2y ago
      >Twitter, Facebook & co could have hired millions of people and paid them magnanimously with the billions they Paying "millions" of people with "billions" of dollars means each person is getting paid $1k. That's below poverty levels of income, not "magnanimously" by any sane definition.
      • from-nibly 2y ago
        Also twitter is not profitable. It has negative money to play with.
    • inglor_cz 2y ago
      "Twitter, Facebook & co could have hired millions of people and paid them magnanimously with the billions they make to scale moderation up." Nope, run the calculator again. Twitter is barely profitable even with current staff (and your proposal would literally multiply that staff thousandfold). Facebook is a bit better off, but you can't make enough money on ads to support good moderation for a global chatbox of a billion users speaking hundreds languages. Even at a ratio of 1 moderator per 100 users, the payroll would dwarf Meta's yearly revenue.
  • everybodyknows 2y ago
    What are the founder's priorities going to be when they're a few years older and wearier, and still can't afford a second home in some warm climate?
    • mplanchard 2y ago
      It’s a public benefit corporation, so there’s some limitation on what can be done with it. That said, I think their goal is just to continue to make something useful for the community, and continue their lives here when they retire. I know it’s crazy to the silicon valley mindset, but a lot of people are happy making enough money to be comfortable, running or working in a sustainable local business, and being a part of the fabric of their community.
• getwiththeprog 2y ago
  "Front Porch Forum is a free community-building service in Vermont and parts of New York. Your neighborhood's forum is only open to the people who live there. It's all about helping neighbors connect." - https://frontporchforum.com/ https://frontporchforum.com/
  • barkerja 2y ago
    What sets this apart from Nextdoor?
    • Nextgrid 2y ago
      Less "growth and engagement" and more "sustainable business" vibes.
      • everybodyknows 2y ago
        Great, but for how long? > My wife, Valerie, and I founded Front Porch Forum in 2006 to serve our hometown of Burlington, Vermont https://frontporchforum.com/about-us https://frontporchforum.com/about-us They've been running the organization, now grown to 30 people, for 18 years. How long till they're wanting more space in their lives for other interests? And if they hand off management responsibilities, how might it change? From https://frontporchforum.com/terms-of-use https://frontporchforum.com/terms-of-use > Here at FPF we strive to: > Remain small and local: FPF is a Vermont-grown and Vermont-owned public benefit corporation, and we commit to remaining locally owned and Vermont-scale.
        • mplanchard 2y ago
          What’s your point? Either they’ll find someone local who wants to take it over, or they’ll sell out, or they’ll fold. The possible inevitability of something’s decay doesn’t make it any less valuable in the meantime. The community here cares a lot about locality, so I suspect they’ll try to keep it as such even when they eventually bow out, but we’ll see.
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• hasbot 2y ago
  > Front Porch Forum counts nearly half the state’s adults as active members. > While most tech giants view content moderation as a necessary evil, Front Porch Forum treats it as a core function. Twelve of its 30 full-time employees spend their days reading every user post before it’s published, rejecting any that break its rules against personal attacks, misinformation or spam. Reading every post!? Rejecting misinformation! How does that work? Say I post some information but I'm wrong. Does the moderator research the topic to determine I'm wrong and then reject the post? It's a shame visitors can't view the content to see what the forum is like. Registration requires entering a valid street address. It'd be interesting to try something like this in the local neighborhood. It'd take years though to gain traction especially in sleepy neighborhoods where there is nothing much going on.
  • netsharc 2y ago
    > Rejecting misinformation! How does that work? If I can guess... most misinformation spread by stupid people are easily debunked. For more complicated stuff, I wonder if a disclaimer "This information is unverified" is appropriate. One can also use weasel words like "As reported on $NEWSPAPER..." or "$PERSON claims...", or "If I can guess...". A lot of news sites do the first two. In general, a line on every user-submitted input to remind people "The information written by the user may be wrong, reader beware." would probably help to make a better Internet. Weasel phrase: IMO ;-)
    • warkdarrior 2y ago
      The information written by the netsharc may be wrong, reader beware. (As a side note, such notes will quickly become as useful as the California Prop 65 warnings.)
  • dimal 2y ago
    > What we say is, attack the issue, not the neighbor. > Wood-Lewis said the beauty of careful moderation is that, over time, most users learn to adhere to the site’s norms on their own. Seems like these principles alone can do a lot of the legwork. People forget how much culture matters. Individuals conform to the culture of civility or they leave. X and Facebook have encouraged toxic cultures to thrive and so no amount of moderation can fix them at this point. And if FPF isn’t optimizing for engagement, they’re not trying to get more posts for posts sake. So I’d think the volume of posts requiring moderation is probably lower.
• meowfly 2y ago
  I've kind of wondered if flattening the world isn't the root problem with social media. There are very few people I encounter IRL that I disagree too much with. We do disagree, but everyone kind of understands each other to some degree. In contrast, my values and the values of someone in Germany (as an example), might be less aligned. We frame so much of this as either echo chambers (we work in the set of people who agree) or ML targeted rage bait. Maybe the best algorithm is Californians mostly engaging with Californians with a spectrum of viewpoints that naturally exists from the urban rural divide.
  • shrimp_emoji 2y ago
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  • energy123 2y ago
    It's often not somebody from Germany, but a troll farm of humans or LLMs controlled by an intelligence agency with the explicit goal of making you miserable and disenchanted. This has been ongoing since at least 2020 across all social media platforms.
    • blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
      What is the difference between that and masses of years using downvotes or reporting to make everyone they disagree with feel miserable and disenchanted? I feel like the notion of a troll farm is exaggerated while the influence of regular users and moderators in manipulating others is ignored.
    • EnigmaFlare 2y ago
      You've fallen for a conspiracy theory. This is something people say over and over again but without any data to support it.
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• mplanchard 2y ago
  I live in Vermont, and I love FPF. It’s full of typical neighborly posts about lost items, people selling things, announcements about local events, etc. The only time it gets slightly contentious is around local elections, but even that is remarkably moderate. I think it helps that the groups really are hyper-local, on the order of a few streets, so it’s very likely you’re interacting with one of your neighbors at any given time. My wife and I posted some bookshelves we wanted to give away when we moved into our neighborhood, and the person who responded wound up being our neighbor from less than halfway down the block. Compared to every other place on the internet, it feels a lot more like the way people are in real life: friendly, helpful, and good-natured.
  • hasbot 2y ago
    I'm kinda surprised that a hyper-local forum has enough posts to encourage engagement. I'm subscribed to many city specific subreddits over the years and most have few posts (except for /r/Portland but that's a different beast) beyond "Who has the best hamburgers?" and "Thinking of moving here."
    • oglop 2y ago
      Reddit overall selects for a certain population to use it. I would not use it as a comparison for something like this.
      • mplanchard 2y ago
        As an example of what you’re saying, the Vermont subreddit skews wildly snarky and mean-spirited relative to either front porch forum or actual people in real life
        • arresin 2y ago
          You’re describing every subreddit
    • kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
• jgoewert 2y ago
  >> move slowly and moderate heavily Yep. This is what is really needed for civil discussion. It is hard to work with otherwise as you get what my local small town FB feed normally is like. We are past the limit of peak assholery that only a system like that can even begin to filter things down. For example: Tiny local news source posted about an accident on the highway on a FB feed yesterday afternoon. Top 3 FB comments were about one of the people involved in the accident and blaming them because of the color of their skin, so he probably caused it. Over 50% of the posts were racist and semi racist rants spewing everything ranging from 'he was most likely going to a drug deal' to 'this is why we shouldn't let them out of the nearby city'. 10% were normal 'oh, that is why it was messed up.' 5% were 'wtf, calm down racists' and those posts got major responses about 'get out of my small town if you don't like it'. Seriously.
  • Log_out_ 2y ago
    Add a shadowban fprum branch with a educational ChatGpt instance reforming trolls
  • blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
    Moderating heavily just means that the group in power will censor the other side’s opinions. We already have that, it is called Reddit. I’m not sure that is a solution. Maybe you can claim that there is less conflict, but in reality it just turns into a one sided echo chamber.
    • bouncyhouse 2y ago
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    • michaelmrose 2y ago
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      • blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
        Truth is clearly subjective. If you don’t believe that, you’ve not studied history or believe too strongly in your chosen tribal beliefs. I don’t have to rehash this - if you’re curious read about it. But briefly, most of the words you use like bigotry or racism or violence or fantasies are all totally subjective, frequently misused, and completely inappropriate as tools to suppress speech in any free society.
• maeil 2y ago
  > “I think there’s a real social media fatalism that has set in, that it’s just irredeemably toxic and never going to get any better,” Pariser said. “The goal here is to demonstrate that local conversations don’t have to be toxic. That’s a result of the business model and how they’re designed.” I've been preaching this for years and am delighted to see the existence of such a great social network that provides a brilliant example of how true this is. The Meta-Alphabet-and-friends concept that "it's simply impossible to moderate once you reach a certain scale" is a bald-faced lie. It both serves as an excuse for them not doing so, and as a warning to founders to definitely not build a competing social network because it must turn into a cesspit. It's very possible to keep a social network high quality - the big ones just don't want to. And they don't want you to, either.
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  • infotainment 2y ago
    Agreed, and I think HN is one of the best examples of a properly moderated social site, and it does so without crushing dissenting opinions (See: random subreddit mods on a power trip). I like that you can generally see a range of opinions on HN that would get downvoted into oblivion or deleted outright on other sites. Good moderation, IMO, should aim to punish behaviors, not opinions, which ultimately results in a healthy discussion that isn't just an echo chamber. Unfortunately, this is rather difficult to do without human moderation, and so Meta and friends would much rather just pretend it's unsolvable because they don't want to pay mods.
    • immibis 2y ago
      Nazis can learn to be polite if that's what keeps them on a platform, but they're still Nazis. If someone says "Respectfully, I must disagree that Jews are equal to others" they should still be banned.
• rchaud 2y ago
  > there’s no real-time feed, no like button, no recommendation algorithm and no way to reach audiences beyond your local community. This just sounds like a messageboard, of which several still remain and are going strong. Of course trolling and misinformation will be minimal if there's adequate moderation, and the scope of the community is local enough that there's no point for bad actors to create accounts to troll. There used to be another one called city-data.com or something like that, but it covered too many cities, and quickly attracted people posting nothing but crime stories and fearmongering.
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• dimal 2y ago
  Interesting that the article doesn’t mention that they’re a public benefit corporation. I think we need more of these.
• michaelmrose 2y ago
  Regarding toxicity. My local crimewatch Facebook group has twice in the last few years been used to drum up lynch mobs for black teens. The first post about supposedly brutality perpetrated upon the individuals property and even more sadly against their cat. The problem is the neighbor wasn't real, the cat was from google image search and happened in a different state, the property damage likewise. The only thing real was the teens they were trying to drum up hate for. More recently we have the same pattern but NOW the poster is anonymous and shares no pictures of self nor of the misbehavior which is described only as text and shares no pictures of malfeasance just the straight pic of the kids. The first post actually had one of the teens names in it and threats of violence! Despite this response is slow and admins refuse to implement a policy of not posting minors images and Facebook has no interest in the situation whatsoever.
• mplanchard 2y ago
  Their 2023 mission statement (required as part of their being a Vermont public benefit corporation) has a lot of interesting perspective in it on the focus of the business, how they view their mission, and their vision for the future: https://frontporchforum.com/uploads/FPF_Benefit_Corp_Report_2023.pdf https://frontporchforum.com/uploads/FPF_Benefit_Corp_Report_...
  • ProllyInfamous 2y ago
    Their 2023 Mission Statement: Front Porch Forum's mission is to help neighbors connect and build community, thereby increasing local resilience. We do that by hosting a network of online local forums covering all of Vermont, where neighbors share postings and engage about a wide variety of topics. We further our mission by providing other features, such as our local Business Directories, Community Calendars, Search and paid ads. The resulting increase in social capital and community cohesion benefits neighbors, government, local businesses, nonprofits and local journalism.
• m463 2y ago
  I think there are a few notable things about vermont... It is 49/50 in population, 50/50 in state GDP, it is not multicultural, and the only large city is probably burlington. It seems like all the classic reasons for friction would be minimized.
  • everybodyknows 2y ago
    Addressed in TFA: “It’s not totally shocking that the ‘slow food’ of social media is coming from Vermont,” a state famous for artisanal small businesses, Pariser said, acknowledging the model might not translate easily to larger, more diverse states. “But Vermont also has a class divide. And one of the things we think is notable about Front Porch Forum is it seems to kind of bridge those divides.” And no, class divide is by many accounts a classic reason for friction. Or at least Karl Marx thought so.
    • rglullis 2y ago
      The idea of "class" that Marx talks about is very different from its more contemporary usage.
      • dsr_ 2y ago
        Economic and social classes are as real as any other human cultural distinction, and different from each other. That is, they have many unclear borders and major impact on life.
        • lazide 2y ago
          And what high friction class divides are present in Vermont?
          • matthewdgreen 2y ago
            I grew up in Vermont so my anecdotes are out of date but: one of our neighbors ran an unlicensed trash dump in his front yard. He had appliances and salvage, even a couple of cars buried underneath the driveway. Some of his more direct neighbors complained about it, but nobody backed them up because he was also the snowplow operator for our neighborhood and hence untouchable. There was also some friction (in general) over hunting and private property. In grade school all the kids hung out regardless of what their parents did, but in high school things tended to partition between the kids whose parents went to college and expected their kids to do so too, and the kids who didn’t have that background. A few wannabe neo-Nazi kids showed up from a much more remote town; not sure if that was a class divide or just an asshole divide.
• overstay8930 2y ago
  i hope that means places like dslreports will come back, such a glorious time to be on the internet in it’s heyday
• subjectsigma 2y ago
  "Hey, we're off building our own thing for our own community, here's how it works, and we think it's working fine. You don't have to participate if you don't want to." queue angry comments
  • com 2y ago
    “Cue” as in call an actor to begin their part of a play. But “queue” is also fair play!
    • subjectsigma 2y ago
      Doh, was posting past my bedtime again
• paganel 2y ago
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  • Thorrez 2y ago
    Interesting that in a thread about comment kindness, there are so many snarky and inflammatory comments. Goes against the HN guidelines: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    • paganel 2y ago
      Those policies are a form of censorship by itself, it's not for nothing that "I'm just a decent human being!" has become a meme, denoting the fake nature of the people who are proud of that worldview, and, on top of that, it's not for nothing that this web-forum itself has "lost contact" (for lack of a better expression) with what's really changing the world that we live in. Granted, that "loss of contact" when it comes to change is also in place because the techies that form the majority on this forum have become part of the establishment/status-quo, and who wants to be mean to said establishment when it pays so well?
      • Thorrez 2y ago
        I agree it's a form of censorship. But HN needs some censorship to avoid becoming reddit. There are many websites with less censorship. I come to HN because the quality is high, in part due to censoring low quality content. I think any idea worth discussing can be discussed in a non-snarky manner. I think it's possible to criticize the establishment without being snarky.
• tptacek 2y ago
  All of local politics in the muni I live in takes place in a forum like this, on Facebook, with a single moderator (the Dan Gackle of Chicagoland) who I do not think really grasps what a big project they've signed up for and gotten off the ground. I can't tell you how often I've wanted to just post the Guidelines link from HN to them and say "just use these". The electeds in our muni post on it; I've gotten two different local laws done by posting there (and I'm working on a bigger third); I met someone whose campaign I funded and helped run who is now a local elected. It is crazy to think you can HN-effortpost your way to changing the laws of the place you live in but I'm telling you right now that you can. To an extent, I feel like the experience of posting here is an almost-unfair advantage to posting in forums like that. Really, though, I'm more frustrated that new, important forums, like mine and like FPF, seem unable to learn the lessons of successful existing forums like MF, WP, and HN.
  • mcdow 2y ago
    Hi! Fairly new HN reader here. I’ve been wondering where to find similar online communities. Specifically, less tech-focused websites that promote healthy discourse. What are MF and WP?
    • lambertsimnel 2y ago
      I suspect WP is Wikipedia. Presumably MF is MetaFilter: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetaFilter https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetaFilter
      • anonCoffee 2y ago
        Huh, I haven't seen that place recommended by Google in ages. Thanks for reminding me it exists!
  • dingnuts 2y ago
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• trte9343r4 2y ago
  > If your issue is a barking dog or hypodermic needles in the park, then let’s talk about that. But don’t say, ‘This particular person’ or ‘This particular dog.’ We can’t fact-check that, and you could totally destroy someone’s reputation.” But we can fact-check that. Many people who complain about dogs have video evidence, and weeks of records. We had similar local forum. I complained about off leash dogs attacking children, and shitting in children playgrounds. Our city has strict leash-laws. I offered to provide video evidence for everything. But "politeness" rules went out of the window. I am "horrible" and "unhappy" person who hates dogs. And somehow it is children fault, they get attacked by illegal dog, while playing at designated dog-free area! They "provoke" and "trigger" dogs, by sitting, walking or riding bicycle. Usual gaslighting!
  • jim-jim-jim 2y ago
    I take it you were dealing with The Breed of Peace?
    • trte9343r4 2y ago
      No, every dog breed does that.
  • jimhefferon 2y ago
    Did this happen on FPF?
    • trte9343r4 2y ago
      Facebook
• yamrzou 2y ago
  > Most of all, he learned what the moderator of almost any successful online forum learns: If you don’t set and strongly enforce rules for how people can talk to each other, things will get ugly in a hurry. Looks like what made HN successful as well
• xg15 2y ago
  This seems great for discussing whether your local neighborhood should have a roundabout or rather use traffic lights, but I don't see how a network of purposely separated and local discussion boards would be useful for discussing larger-scale or even national or international issues. (If the answer is "it wasn't meant to do that", in the article, it was touted as an alternative to traditional social media which do have that role, so the question does stand)
  • dan-robertson 2y ago
    I think lots of people don’t really go on social media for the latter reason, it’s just that such content tends to be high engagement and so the big sites end up prioritising it in people’s feeds.
    • xg15 2y ago
      Yeah, good point. And the low-drama local discussions are one of the areas where Facebook is still most useful, so it makes sense to build a separate service which can provide for this even better. The problem is, I think there is a real need to discuss larger-scale issues, especially in a time like this. So I think the best medium for this might not yet be found.
      • TeMPOraL 2y ago
        > I think there is a real need to discuss larger-scale issues, especially in a time like this. Is there, though? How many of those issues are a consequence of expecting everyone to have an opinion on larger-scale issues, creating infrastructure that allows everyone to voice those opinions, and then having the ad industry cancer metastasize and grow a great, ugly, self-sustaining tumor over it? Right now, we're surely doing too much shallow talking with too much emotions pent up in it. We need to find a different way to discuss this, one that doesn't degenerate to drive-by engagement.
  • beezle 2y ago
    State wide issues such as property taxes, river control, Act 250 do come up for discussion. National issues generally don't as most people do not want to have their real names and towns attached to overty team red/blue political positions/rants.
• digbybk 2y ago
  I was disappointed when I realized that Nextdoor was an even worse place than other social media platforms. In principle it should be like FPF. Is it the moderation or does FPF work because Vermont is so sparsely populated and homogeneous?
• beezle 2y ago
  I have used FPF as a sometimes resident of VT. First off, you need to register with a local address/real name and the communities are generally population/geographic. So three or four towns along a common route may be combined giving a total population order 5k. That would be the default group a post goes to, though there is the option to also include "nearby" areas. Remember, nearby in VT is measured in miles. Second - the vast majority of the postings concern lost/found pets, farm animals and packages, people looking for services - plumber to chimney sweep to excavation, things for free or sale, and announcements (closures, openings, events). There is a low volume of "discussions". Very few people engage with the overtly political posts. Posts that do get some traction are road and safety issues and recently, school budgets. It is not facebook/reddit/twitter. More of a pin up bulletin board system that allows quick replies.
  • mason55 2y ago
    Sounds like my local semi-rural NextDoor posts. Lost dogs, cats, the occasional horse. Updates when the main road gets closed. Recommendations for local businesses. And occasionally a politics post that most people ignore while a few people argue for weeks. I’ve heard that NextDoor in suburban and urban areas is quite a cesspit but ours is pretty helpful and cordial.
    • mistrial9 2y ago
      > NextDoor in suburban and urban areas is quite a cesspit yes it is, and with an additional bonus of lurking law enforcement building profiles, and their unpublic commercial partners in an arms race to do more of it.
• WoodenChair 2y ago
  I live in Vermont and use Front Porch Forum (FPF). Here are three observations that I think are important that the article misses: 1. FPF is primarily used via email. You get an email newsletter each day with the latest posts, sometimes multiple times a day. In essence it's just many glorified local mailing lists. Email is universal and mailing lists have been around forever. But what the FPF founders did effectively is organize, manage, moderate and create mailing lists for every local neighborhood in the state and then advertise them to people. Not an easy task and not a bad idea—but it doesn't require anywhere near the infrastructure of a FB or Twitter nor offer anywhere near the features. 2. FPF has a "beg for money" business model. They charge very high advertising rates and then every few months they send out emails about how they don't have enough funding to meet their needs and ask for donations. They're a for-profit company that constantly asks for donations. They even have a donate link [0] right on the bottom of their home page. That really turns me off from them. Sometimes they use the word "subscription" but other times they call it "donations." If it was truly a subscription, they wouldn't accept one-time donations, which they do. They seem to think of themselves as a community service and consider themselves essential to the Vermont conversation, despite also being a for-profit company. I think if they want to have a donation model and be considered critical rural communication glue they should become a non-profit and open source their software. 3. The Washington Post article's premise that important political conversations are happening on FPF I'm sure is true but I think really depends on which community you live in. This is not really one-social network, but instead thousands of mini-social networks (each little local mailing list has its own vibe). In my neighborhood the more substantive political conversations happen on the less moderated Facebook group. Nextdoor was just introduced here a couple years ago and seems to continue to be growing. I suspect over time, with its much greater feature set, it may really challenge FPF. [0] https://frontporchforum.com/supporting-members https://frontporchforum.com/supporting-members Overall, it's a good service. Every neighborhood should have a well-organized email list. But let's not pretend this is a Facebook competitor.
• jackcosgrove 2y ago
  The problem with moderation of forums is that the most common model seems to be one of enlightened despotism. Moderators are hired/appointed by the site owner and have sometimes godlike powers to do what they want. Are there any forums where moderator is an elected position, with predefined term lengths? Or one where moderation actions are adjudicated in an open process, with appeals, etc? So much of moderation seems like star chamber proceedings.
• inglor_cz 2y ago
  I would like to see this approach tested on something really controversial, e.g. Gaza or Ukraine. I am not saying it surely wouldn't work, but ...
• dredmorbius 2y ago
  More on FPF from New_ Public: <https://newpublic.substack.com/p/the-vermont-miracle-how-one-local https://newpublic.substack.com/p/the-vermont-miracle-how-one...>
• bwanab 2y ago
  As a newish resident who signed up a couple of months back, I've been amazed at the civilized tone in FPF. I think the article overstates the part about politics, though - it just doesn't seen like that frequent a topic of discussion very unlike the Vermont Reddit group.
• jijojohnxx 2y ago
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• yieldcrv 2y ago
  I had read a study that people give accurate political views as soon as there is money at stake for giving the answer, absent that it seems people only know how to deflect towards a deficiency of “the other side” instead of addressing the criticisms to their political view Thats why I love Polymarket, because you dont have to debate anyone to express a political belief and it allows room for complex nuance to reach that belief I like the kindness concept too, especially since there is no money involved