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It is funny how my browser preferences has changed over last 5 years. 2014 me as a developer had Chrome as number 1 browser for both development and all rest.

It is funny how my browser preferences has changed over last 5 years. 2014 me as a developer had Chrome as number 1 browser for both development and all rest. Firefox once a month just to check cross browser compatibility. And Safari was just installed without me using it. 2019 me uses Safari for everything except development. Excellent power consumption and UX. Firefox for development. And lastly Chrome for all web apps that only work on Chrome. ( Google Meet etc. ) I feel much much better that I am not dependent on chrome.

TazeTSchnitzel 7y ago
Are there Chrome-only webapps you use that don't just work with a User-Agent switcher?
- shrikant 7y ago
  Most Google apps only just about "work" on Firefox. They're clearly optimised for Chromium and it shows. I use Firefox for all my browsing needs except for Google apps, for which I keep an install of Vivaldi around. I only really fire up Chrome if some stupid internal workplace app refuses to work on anything else. It truly is the new IE.
  - zepearl 7y ago
    > It truly is the new IE Funny, and true at least in the company I'm working for (officially supported browsers are primarily IE11 and optionally Chrome). A colleague told me a few months ago that Firefox was not supported because it did not support some Windows "policies" (Windows or Active Directory? Not sure, no clue about that stuff) but that Firefox was going to support them soon... .
    - shawnz 7y ago
      Likely they did indeed mean Group Policy in the Active Directory sense, although that's been supported in Firefox for over a year now
      - zepearl 7y ago
        Thx!
    - arthurfm 7y ago
      Firefox 60 was the first release with official Group Policy support [1]. Starting from version 64 you could also configure Firefox for macOS using configuration profiles [2]. Both the ADMX templates for Windows and preference .plist for macOS are available from GitHub [3]. The full list of configurable preferences can be found on SearchFox.org [4]. As of Firefox 67 there are quite a lot of settings that can be managed now. Certainly enough for Firefox to be deployed in enterprise environments. There was also a really interesting talk at MacADUK 2019 by Mike Kapley on the work Mozilla has done so far to support enterprise deployment [5]. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1433136 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1433136 [2] https://github.com/mozilla/policy-templates/blob/master/mac/org.mozilla.firefox.plist https://github.com/mozilla/policy-templates/blob/master/mac/... [3] https://github.com/mozilla/policy-templates https://github.com/mozilla/policy-templates [4] https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/enterprisepolicies https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/compone... [5] https://youtu.be/jB_5h4ihih4 https://youtu.be/jB_5h4ihih4
  - bashinator 7y ago
    For example, I cannot copy and paste text in Google Docs in Firefox.
    - roca 7y ago
      Using the keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V) works for me on Linux.
- whizzkid 7y ago
  Most of them probably will work on other browsers with user-agent switching. But i do not want to hack it and risk having a problem in middle of my work. They can easily inject something that is only available in chrome and there goes my video conference :)
- themattress 7y ago
  Not quite the same thing and I know it’s not fully rolled out yet, but I enable u2f support in Firefox and haven’t had any issues with my Yubikey... except when I try to add a new Yubikey To my gmail account in Firefox it makes me switch to Chrome because “u2f isn’t supported”. At least let me try and if it fails I’ll file an issue with FF so they can fix it and improve instead of locking me out with half-truths.
  - floatboth 7y ago
    In the latest release (67), Google U2F registration should work out of the box.
iaml 7y ago
Google meet works in firefox (at least dev edition).
- shandor 7y ago
  It didn't about 9 months ago. Great if the situation has improved. Thanks a lot for the heads up, hopefully this works and lets me uninstall Chrome!
- komali2 7y ago
  It didn't today for us.
  - dror 7y ago
    Make sure to enable permissions for autoplay sound, use the microphone and use the camera. See https://imgur.com/a/1UQiqtQ https://imgur.com/a/1UQiqtQ
  - cpeterso 7y ago
    I think there is an issue where Google Hangout meetings created a long time ago don't support Firefox, but new meetings do.
- lscotte 7y ago
  It works, just not well in my experience. Meet is about the only thing I still use Chromium for.
spullara 7y ago
I only use Chrome on Google. Safari for everything else. Best power usage and better protects privacy. No reason to not let Chrome see me use Google...
- nebulaserfer 7y ago
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  - jtbayly 7y ago
    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
    - nebulaserfer 7y ago
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o10449366 7y ago
I sorely want to switch to Safari but I can't port all of my Chrome extensions over.
- deca6cda37d0 7y ago
  Which ones are you missing?
  - o10449366 7y ago
    RES and Imagus are the main ones.
    - gangstead 7y ago
      RES is on FireFox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reddit-enhancement-suite/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reddit-enhanc...
akerro 7y ago
> It is funny how my browser preferences has changed over last 5 years. Sure, we're still testing, if stuff works on IE10...
- duhi88 7y ago
  You shouldn't be! Microsoft has deprecated it and that should be reason enough to get your users off it. IE11 isn't much better, though...
  - akerro 7y ago
    Tell that to the banking and medical sector, in the UK NHS would still be using IE6 and WinXP if not they were hacked a year ago with that ransomware from NSA.
arohner 7y ago
Brave is great for those "it only works in Chrome" sites
- tagawa 7y ago
  Or Vivaldi.
  - PikachuEXE 7y ago
    I love Vivaldi due to vertical tab bar But I use Palemoon (Firefox fork with XUL) with Tab Kit for vertical tabs too I think Vivaldi (based on Chromium) is great for one time browsing (open -> close) But I got a bunch of sites I visit daily so I got them opened in Palemoon and open them when I need With another extension you can also unload tabs (manaual or auto, config it as you like) in Palemoon like Vivaldi (called hibernate in V)
baggy_trough 7y ago
The only thing I like about Chrome is the native personas.
suyash 7y ago
I use for Safari for everything including Development.
r00fus 7y ago
I have mostly switched over to Firefox from Chrome for all work related stuff except for anything Google Drive related (esp. Google "new" Sites - that has resulted in lost data and a failed demo). So yes Google, Chrome will always likely be running on my system, but in almost exactly the same place IE did 10-15 years ago. Is that something to be proud of?
- toper-centage 7y ago
  Yup. And even for Gmail and YouTube, Google is trapped in a tab container in Firefox for being naughty.
iscrewyou 7y ago
I would love to switch to safari. What do you use for ad-blocking?
- mraison 7y ago
  I find AdGuard pretty good, but I’ve only started using it recently.
- nisuni 7y ago
  You could also try ublock origin.
- Wowfunhappy 7y ago
  UBlock Origin supports Safari: https://safari-extensions.apple.com/details/?id=com.el1t.uBlock-3NU33NW2M3 https://safari-extensions.apple.com/details/?id=com.el1t.uBl...
  - iscrewyou 7y ago
    I didn’t realize unlock origin works on safari. This is very helpful. Thanks!
    - latexr 7y ago
      It’s deprecated.
  - xrisk 7y ago
    This hasn't been updated in over a year (last commit Apr 2018). Personally, I use Wipr from the App Store because it's very cheap. AdGuard is also an option.
  - darek 7y ago
    It seems like it's won't be working on Safari for much longer. Info from 2 days ago "I can confirm that on macOS Catalina Developer Beta 1, uBlock Origin is completely removed as it is not using the MAS distribution method." Src: https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/151 https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/151
mraison 7y ago
It’s nice to see a bit of Safari love around here. Some sites occasionally break, but I really like the macOS/iOS integrations. SMS code autofill on desktop Safari (via Mac <-> iPhone communication) is pretty awesome.
- xfitm3 7y ago
  Doesn't that defeat the purpose of MFA?
  - chii 7y ago
    If they already have your phone, you're already pwned.
    - mschuster91 7y ago
      >If they already have your phone, you're already pwned. No, that's not what GP means. If the attacker manages to get malware on the Mac, for example by exploiting a browser 0day, then the attacker can simply circumvent the 2FA by making the Mac fetch the 2FA code. The user won't notice it.
      - cortesoft 7y ago
        Same could be said of the phone, right? A zero day on the phone would circumvent the 2FA. Really, the SMS part is the actual weak link in the chain. Easier to hijack SMS than own a computer or phone.
        mschuster91 7y ago
        > Easier to hijack SMS than own a computer or phone. That depends on the country, in Germany it's way more difficult.
        TylerE 7y ago
        Why would you say that? All it takes is one telco employee taking a bribe or screwing up some configuration or...
j-conn 7y ago
Personal use aside, I've been meaning to try out firefox for development after seeing some of their release announcements here. Any tips for people like me who are accustomed to chrome devtools? Are there some things you can do in firefox that you can't in chrome, and vice versa? I do look forward to the chrome devtools release videos, always learn something new.
- sombremesa 7y ago
  It depends on what you do on a daily basis. There are definitely things you can't do in Firefox - chrome://inspect, for example, which is how a JS dev can debug their Jest tests (though for these workflows you can just pop Chrome or Chromium open for a moment). Otherwise, Firefox has the better API for add-ons and a more 'open' approach in general, so there are a lot more things you can't do on Chrome that you can in Firefox than vice versa. I have yet to see a decent tree tabs extension for Chrome, for example. (They exist, but none compare to the one available for Firefox).
  - chii 7y ago
    If you dev using the chrome devtools protocol client (like using intellij, see https://developer.chrome.com/devtools/docs/integrating https://developer.chrome.com/devtools/docs/integrating), you won't be able to do the same on Firefox ATM. Edit: I'm mistaken - apparently you can : https://docs.firefox-dev.tools/backend/protocol.html https://docs.firefox-dev.tools/backend/protocol.html ... So no reason to use chrome as a primary browser or development browser.
- fraudsyndrome 7y ago
  I work with both and generally they overlap quite a lot for the basic stuff - for general ones, you probably just have to get used to the colours. I use firefox for dev and browsing but my job requires me to check out chrome more because it's used the most. One thing I find myself using firefox for is the feature of visualising a flexbox which chrome doesn't have.
- dexterdog 7y ago
  I use Firefox for meet calls every day
fouc 7y ago
It would be nice if right-clicking on links gave an option of opening it in another browser. That would make it easy to stick to a multi-browser setup.
- GeneralMaximus 7y ago
  I use Choosy for that. See https://www.choosyosx.com/ https://www.choosyosx.com/ One of my favorite apps on macOS.
fallenatreus 7y ago
This looks perfect way to solve the current dilemma of choosing a "daily driver", but isn't it convenient to have stored all of passwords or details in profile in one browser or is there a way to keep everything in sync. I definitely would like to give a try to Safari.
- nuclear_eclipse 7y ago
  Use something like 1Password and you can have your passwords in every browser or app, on desktop and mobile.
  - luckman212 7y ago
    Better choice would be Bitwarden. https://bitwarden.com https://bitwarden.com
    - vinay_ys 7y ago
      why?
      - floatboth 7y ago
        Bitwarden is FOSS
        fraenir 7y ago
        Better is a subjective thing, especially when it comes to FOSS. Better when you want to see the source? Sure, if that is your primary need, but for most people that isn't the case.
grahamburger 7y ago
Google Meet works fine for me in Firefox fwiw. I'm in meetings several hours a day on Firefox nightly on a Mac.
dvcrn 7y ago
I also completely switched to Safari a few years ago mainly for power consumption (how can you all run chrome on battery??), but there isn’t really anything I miss in it these days. It also integrates very well with my other Apple devices, and works with AppleScripts and keyboard maestro to quickly do complex macros and talk to other apps.
kijin 7y ago
My preferences haven't changed since 2007 when Chrome didn't even exist. Firefox for everything; Safari once in a while to check browser compatibility; ditto for IE & Chrome; and The Back Button for apps that only work in one browser. It's been a while since I stopped caring about performance and power consumption because I have more performance and battery life than I know what to do with anyway. I don't regret having stayed with Firefox through the years when Chrome was all the rage. IE6 was the most popular browser in the world when I first tried Firefox, so I know how it feels. Other browsers come and go, but Firefox keeps burning bright.
MH15 7y ago
I've stayed with Safari for all web browsing mainly due to it's fantastic power consumption. Still use Chrome for development, but I find Safari's UX so compelling I'll still have it open for reference. Safari needs a duplicate tab button though.
- heyoni 7y ago
  That and a way to turn off transition animations...
- clumsysmurf 7y ago
  My favorite Safari UX feature is 'show tab overview'. Its far better than the Firefox overflow menu.
- scoopr 7y ago
  I duplicate tabs with CMD-L CMD-ENTER combo, which I find passable. I suppose an item in the context menu would make sense though.
kreetx 7y ago
Given the privacy features Apple is introducing they could also put some more resources into making Safari appeal more to developers.
joshuakarjala 7y ago
What do you recommend for adblocking on Safari?
- edraferi 7y ago
  uBlock Origin, same as anywhere else. https://safari-extensions.apple.com/details/?id=com.el1t.uBlock-3NU33NW2M3 https://safari-extensions.apple.com/details/?id=com.el1t.uBl...
  - kristofferR 7y ago
    That's depreciated and won't work in the next Safari version, along with all other normal Safari Extensions.
- Spiritus 7y ago
  Wipr: https://giorgiocalderolla.com/wipr.html https://giorgiocalderolla.com/wipr.html
OrgNet 7y ago
A lot of people got tricked into using Chrome.

TazeTSchnitzel 7y ago

Are there Chrome-only webapps you use that don't just work with a User-Agent switcher?

shrikant 7y ago
Most Google apps only just about "work" on Firefox. They're clearly optimised for Chromium and it shows. I use Firefox for all my browsing needs except for Google apps, for which I keep an install of Vivaldi around. I only really fire up Chrome if some stupid internal workplace app refuses to work on anything else. It truly is the new IE.
- zepearl 7y ago
  > It truly is the new IE Funny, and true at least in the company I'm working for (officially supported browsers are primarily IE11 and optionally Chrome). A colleague told me a few months ago that Firefox was not supported because it did not support some Windows "policies" (Windows or Active Directory? Not sure, no clue about that stuff) but that Firefox was going to support them soon... .
  - shawnz 7y ago
    Likely they did indeed mean Group Policy in the Active Directory sense, although that's been supported in Firefox for over a year now
    - zepearl 7y ago
      Thx!
  - arthurfm 7y ago
    Firefox 60 was the first release with official Group Policy support [1]. Starting from version 64 you could also configure Firefox for macOS using configuration profiles [2]. Both the ADMX templates for Windows and preference .plist for macOS are available from GitHub [3]. The full list of configurable preferences can be found on SearchFox.org [4]. As of Firefox 67 there are quite a lot of settings that can be managed now. Certainly enough for Firefox to be deployed in enterprise environments. There was also a really interesting talk at MacADUK 2019 by Mike Kapley on the work Mozilla has done so far to support enterprise deployment [5]. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1433136 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1433136 [2] https://github.com/mozilla/policy-templates/blob/master/mac/org.mozilla.firefox.plist https://github.com/mozilla/policy-templates/blob/master/mac/... [3] https://github.com/mozilla/policy-templates https://github.com/mozilla/policy-templates [4] https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/enterprisepolicies https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/compone... [5] https://youtu.be/jB_5h4ihih4 https://youtu.be/jB_5h4ihih4
- bashinator 7y ago
  For example, I cannot copy and paste text in Google Docs in Firefox.
  - roca 7y ago
    Using the keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V) works for me on Linux.
whizzkid 7y ago
Most of them probably will work on other browsers with user-agent switching. But i do not want to hack it and risk having a problem in middle of my work. They can easily inject something that is only available in chrome and there goes my video conference :)
themattress 7y ago
Not quite the same thing and I know it’s not fully rolled out yet, but I enable u2f support in Firefox and haven’t had any issues with my Yubikey... except when I try to add a new Yubikey To my gmail account in Firefox it makes me switch to Chrome because “u2f isn’t supported”. At least let me try and if it fails I’ll file an issue with FF so they can fix it and improve instead of locking me out with half-truths.
- floatboth 7y ago
  In the latest release (67), Google U2F registration should work out of the box.

iaml 7y ago

Google meet works in firefox (at least dev edition).

shandor 7y ago
It didn't about 9 months ago. Great if the situation has improved. Thanks a lot for the heads up, hopefully this works and lets me uninstall Chrome!
komali2 7y ago
It didn't today for us.
- dror 7y ago
  Make sure to enable permissions for autoplay sound, use the microphone and use the camera. See https://imgur.com/a/1UQiqtQ https://imgur.com/a/1UQiqtQ
- cpeterso 7y ago
  I think there is an issue where Google Hangout meetings created a long time ago don't support Firefox, but new meetings do.
lscotte 7y ago
It works, just not well in my experience. Meet is about the only thing I still use Chromium for.

spullara 7y ago

I only use Chrome on Google. Safari for everything else. Best power usage and better protects privacy. No reason to not let Chrome see me use Google...

nebulaserfer 7y ago
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- jtbayly 7y ago
  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
  - nebulaserfer 7y ago
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o10449366 7y ago

I sorely want to switch to Safari but I can't port all of my Chrome extensions over.

deca6cda37d0 7y ago
Which ones are you missing?
- o10449366 7y ago
  RES and Imagus are the main ones.
  - gangstead 7y ago
    RES is on FireFox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reddit-enhancement-suite/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reddit-enhanc...

akerro 7y ago

> It is funny how my browser preferences has changed over last 5 years. Sure, we're still testing, if stuff works on IE10...

duhi88 7y ago
You shouldn't be! Microsoft has deprecated it and that should be reason enough to get your users off it. IE11 isn't much better, though...
- akerro 7y ago
  Tell that to the banking and medical sector, in the UK NHS would still be using IE6 and WinXP if not they were hacked a year ago with that ransomware from NSA.

arohner 7y ago

Brave is great for those "it only works in Chrome" sites

tagawa 7y ago
Or Vivaldi.
- PikachuEXE 7y ago
  I love Vivaldi due to vertical tab bar But I use Palemoon (Firefox fork with XUL) with Tab Kit for vertical tabs too I think Vivaldi (based on Chromium) is great for one time browsing (open -> close) But I got a bunch of sites I visit daily so I got them opened in Palemoon and open them when I need With another extension you can also unload tabs (manaual or auto, config it as you like) in Palemoon like Vivaldi (called hibernate in V)

baggy_trough 7y ago

The only thing I like about Chrome is the native personas.

suyash 7y ago

I use for Safari for everything including Development.

r00fus 7y ago

I have mostly switched over to Firefox from Chrome for all work related stuff except for anything Google Drive related (esp. Google "new" Sites - that has resulted in lost data and a failed demo). So yes Google, Chrome will always likely be running on my system, but in almost exactly the same place IE did 10-15 years ago. Is that something to be proud of?

toper-centage 7y ago
Yup. And even for Gmail and YouTube, Google is trapped in a tab container in Firefox for being naughty.

iscrewyou 7y ago

I would love to switch to safari. What do you use for ad-blocking?

mraison 7y ago
I find AdGuard pretty good, but I’ve only started using it recently.
nisuni 7y ago
You could also try ublock origin.
Wowfunhappy 7y ago
UBlock Origin supports Safari: https://safari-extensions.apple.com/details/?id=com.el1t.uBlock-3NU33NW2M3 https://safari-extensions.apple.com/details/?id=com.el1t.uBl...
- iscrewyou 7y ago
  I didn’t realize unlock origin works on safari. This is very helpful. Thanks!
  - latexr 7y ago
    It’s deprecated.
- xrisk 7y ago
  This hasn't been updated in over a year (last commit Apr 2018). Personally, I use Wipr from the App Store because it's very cheap. AdGuard is also an option.
- darek 7y ago
  It seems like it's won't be working on Safari for much longer. Info from 2 days ago "I can confirm that on macOS Catalina Developer Beta 1, uBlock Origin is completely removed as it is not using the MAS distribution method." Src: https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/151 https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/151

mraison 7y ago

It’s nice to see a bit of Safari love around here. Some sites occasionally break, but I really like the macOS/iOS integrations. SMS code autofill on desktop Safari (via Mac <-> iPhone communication) is pretty awesome.

xfitm3 7y ago
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of MFA?
- chii 7y ago
  If they already have your phone, you're already pwned.
  - mschuster91 7y ago
    >If they already have your phone, you're already pwned. No, that's not what GP means. If the attacker manages to get malware on the Mac, for example by exploiting a browser 0day, then the attacker can simply circumvent the 2FA by making the Mac fetch the 2FA code. The user won't notice it.
    - cortesoft 7y ago
      Same could be said of the phone, right? A zero day on the phone would circumvent the 2FA. Really, the SMS part is the actual weak link in the chain. Easier to hijack SMS than own a computer or phone.
      - mschuster91 7y ago
        > Easier to hijack SMS than own a computer or phone. That depends on the country, in Germany it's way more difficult.
        TylerE 7y ago
        Why would you say that? All it takes is one telco employee taking a bribe or screwing up some configuration or...

j-conn 7y ago

Personal use aside, I've been meaning to try out firefox for development after seeing some of their release announcements here. Any tips for people like me who are accustomed to chrome devtools? Are there some things you can do in firefox that you can't in chrome, and vice versa? I do look forward to the chrome devtools release videos, always learn something new.

sombremesa 7y ago
It depends on what you do on a daily basis. There are definitely things you can't do in Firefox - chrome://inspect, for example, which is how a JS dev can debug their Jest tests (though for these workflows you can just pop Chrome or Chromium open for a moment). Otherwise, Firefox has the better API for add-ons and a more 'open' approach in general, so there are a lot more things you can't do on Chrome that you can in Firefox than vice versa. I have yet to see a decent tree tabs extension for Chrome, for example. (They exist, but none compare to the one available for Firefox).
- chii 7y ago
  If you dev using the chrome devtools protocol client (like using intellij, see https://developer.chrome.com/devtools/docs/integrating https://developer.chrome.com/devtools/docs/integrating), you won't be able to do the same on Firefox ATM. Edit: I'm mistaken - apparently you can : https://docs.firefox-dev.tools/backend/protocol.html https://docs.firefox-dev.tools/backend/protocol.html ... So no reason to use chrome as a primary browser or development browser.
fraudsyndrome 7y ago
I work with both and generally they overlap quite a lot for the basic stuff - for general ones, you probably just have to get used to the colours. I use firefox for dev and browsing but my job requires me to check out chrome more because it's used the most. One thing I find myself using firefox for is the feature of visualising a flexbox which chrome doesn't have.
dexterdog 7y ago
I use Firefox for meet calls every day

fouc 7y ago

It would be nice if right-clicking on links gave an option of opening it in another browser. That would make it easy to stick to a multi-browser setup.

GeneralMaximus 7y ago
I use Choosy for that. See https://www.choosyosx.com/ https://www.choosyosx.com/ One of my favorite apps on macOS.

fallenatreus 7y ago

This looks perfect way to solve the current dilemma of choosing a "daily driver", but isn't it convenient to have stored all of passwords or details in profile in one browser or is there a way to keep everything in sync. I definitely would like to give a try to Safari.

nuclear_eclipse 7y ago
Use something like 1Password and you can have your passwords in every browser or app, on desktop and mobile.
- luckman212 7y ago
  Better choice would be Bitwarden. https://bitwarden.com https://bitwarden.com
  - vinay_ys 7y ago
    why?
    - floatboth 7y ago
      Bitwarden is FOSS
      - fraenir 7y ago
        Better is a subjective thing, especially when it comes to FOSS. Better when you want to see the source? Sure, if that is your primary need, but for most people that isn't the case.

grahamburger 7y ago

Google Meet works fine for me in Firefox fwiw. I'm in meetings several hours a day on Firefox nightly on a Mac.

dvcrn 7y ago

I also completely switched to Safari a few years ago mainly for power consumption (how can you all run chrome on battery??), but there isn’t really anything I miss in it these days. It also integrates very well with my other Apple devices, and works with AppleScripts and keyboard maestro to quickly do complex macros and talk to other apps.

kijin 7y ago

My preferences haven't changed since 2007 when Chrome didn't even exist. Firefox for everything; Safari once in a while to check browser compatibility; ditto for IE & Chrome; and The Back Button for apps that only work in one browser. It's been a while since I stopped caring about performance and power consumption because I have more performance and battery life than I know what to do with anyway. I don't regret having stayed with Firefox through the years when Chrome was all the rage. IE6 was the most popular browser in the world when I first tried Firefox, so I know how it feels. Other browsers come and go, but Firefox keeps burning bright.

MH15 7y ago

I've stayed with Safari for all web browsing mainly due to it's fantastic power consumption. Still use Chrome for development, but I find Safari's UX so compelling I'll still have it open for reference. Safari needs a duplicate tab button though.

heyoni 7y ago
That and a way to turn off transition animations...
clumsysmurf 7y ago
My favorite Safari UX feature is 'show tab overview'. Its far better than the Firefox overflow menu.
scoopr 7y ago
I duplicate tabs with CMD-L CMD-ENTER combo, which I find passable. I suppose an item in the context menu would make sense though.

kreetx 7y ago

Given the privacy features Apple is introducing they could also put some more resources into making Safari appeal more to developers.

joshuakarjala 7y ago

What do you recommend for adblocking on Safari?

edraferi 7y ago
uBlock Origin, same as anywhere else. https://safari-extensions.apple.com/details/?id=com.el1t.uBlock-3NU33NW2M3 https://safari-extensions.apple.com/details/?id=com.el1t.uBl...
- kristofferR 7y ago
  That's depreciated and won't work in the next Safari version, along with all other normal Safari Extensions.
Spiritus 7y ago
Wipr: https://giorgiocalderolla.com/wipr.html https://giorgiocalderolla.com/wipr.html

OrgNet 7y ago

A lot of people got tricked into using Chrome.