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papsosouid
13y ago
That makes no sense. People say that so that everyone will see they are bigots and ignore the rest of what they have to say? If people want to be ignored wouldn't they just not bother posting to begin with? The point of the phrase i
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papsosouid
13y ago
That's exactly what he just said.
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papsosouid
13y ago
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=do+women+choose+lower+paying+jobs
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papsosouid
13y ago
>That's pretty much what is common understanding of the wage gap No it isn't. If that were the common understanding, then people would not say they are fighting for "equal pay for equal work". The very existence of
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papsosouid
13y ago
I am saying you need to account for hours worked and years experience.
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papsosouid
13y ago
Why are you asking me to make your argument for you? If you want to take a position on job choices and availability go right ahead, you don't need me to do it for you.
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papsosouid
13y ago
The answer is still "account for hours work and years experience" no matter how many times you ask.
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papsosouid
13y ago
>Those things should make you question why women not men are expected to take time out of their career to raise children, why women on average end up in lower paying jobs. No, those things should make the feminists spouting this nonsense
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papsosouid
13y ago
>Almost every analysis I've ever read about the wage gap went beyond the pay difference I find those to be in the minority myself. And those are of course never presented by feminist proponents of the wage gap myth, as those demons
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papsosouid
13y ago
Are you seriously asking me to copy+paste my last reply back to you? How many times do you hope to repeat the same comments, and what is the purpose of that?
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papsosouid
13y ago
>You're suggesting that women actively seek out lower-paid, lower-status work. All available evidence supports that notion. Women are more likely to value other things more than they value financial motives. I am also not suggesti
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papsosouid
13y ago
>Did I miss something? Yes. The image doesn't show the opposite information as the text. As the text explains, the average of all men's wages increases more than the average of all women's wages. The average of all men
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papsosouid
13y ago
Why would you respond to someone saying "you need to account for things like hours worked, experience, position, etc" with "if you don't account for things like hours worked and experience, we can mislead people into thi
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papsosouid
13y ago
No. Even if that were real instead of a link to a tabloid I wouldn't be happy, because that isn't relevant. We're not talking about leaders, we're talking about building a company with a massive advantage over the comp
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papsosouid
13y ago
>It seems like you are saying that is there is indeed a real conspiracy of institutions created and/or controlled by men, in which case I totally agree. It seems like you are deliberately choosing to respond with non-sequiturs and s
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papsosouid
13y ago
>must mean that there is nothing that feminists disagree about?! Nobody made that claim, that is my point. Responding to strawmen is not productive, respond to the actual conversation.
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papsosouid
13y ago
Yes, that is a baseless assertion. I saw that when it was posted. I even commented on it. About how my wife had the exact same experience in reverse. A single personal anecdote is entirely meaningless.
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papsosouid
13y ago
Not at all. We have constant, deliberate deception being used to influence policy and law. People overwhelmingly believe the lie that women get paid less for the same work, that would be a wage gap. Policy decisions are made based on t
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papsosouid
13y ago
But that is just an assumption, and a rather bold one at that. If there were evidence that there is a prevailing assumption that women are 18% less capable then you would have a point. But just making a baseless assertion like that doesn&
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papsosouid
13y ago
Institutions do not form spontaneously, and the "systems" you refer to were also created by humans. The notion that men created systems and institutions which oppress women, but it is totally not a conspiracy because they did it
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papsosouid
13y ago
Yes, it does debunk it. Wage has a specific meaning. If women are taking a different job, obviously they are earning a different wage, that is in no way a "wage gap". Calling someone working 80% of the hours and earning 80% of
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papsosouid
13y ago
There have been "whole academic branches" that studied all sorts of nonsense and quackery. That doesn't validate modern feminist mythology any more than it validated phrenology. Rather than resort to weasel words, if you wa
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papsosouid
13y ago
>but has a social structure - perpetuated by certain social institutions - that ensure that men as a gender (not every individual, of course) maintain oppressive power over women. What you described is a conspiracy. Of course feminists
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papsosouid
13y ago
Businesses do things that are unethical to gain a competitive advantage all the time. Constantly. Every day. The fact that none of them are exploiting this "wage gap" is pretty strong support for the fact that the gap isn'
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papsosouid
13y ago
There were also words, not just pictures. Often times words that accompany pictures can provide useful information.
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papsosouid
13y ago
http://www.privoxy.org/ It is really simple.
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papsosouid
13y ago
Yeah, the "wage gap" myth has been debunked many times over, it really destroys someone's credibility when they pretend it exists. http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/05/the-bi
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papsosouid
13y ago
That doesn't mean there isn't a significant amount of mythology that is widely agreed upon in feminist circles. If you expect insane conspiracy theory nonsense like "patriarchy" to actually be supported by evidence rath
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papsosouid
13y ago
Yes, I did see your "data". Comparing the average income of all men to the average income of all women does not establish a pay gap. The average of all women works fewer hours than the average of all men, work less demanding job
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papsosouid
13y ago
Dunno, ask the FBI.
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