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Firefox 26 is released

305 points by lambda_cube 13y ago

nodata 13y ago
"has been released" or "is out".
- JangoSteve 13y ago
  Technically speaking, "released" can also be a state, so "is released" (as in "is in the released state") works too.
  - nodata 13y ago
    Technically maybe, but when has a native speaker ever written that?
    - fzzzy 13y ago
      I don't think there is anything wrong with that wording.
    - DanBC 13y ago
      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/russian-bisexual-activist-irina-putilova-is-released-from-detention-and-taken-off-fasttrack-asylum-list-8995978.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/russian-bisex... > Russian bisexual activist Irina Putilova is released from detention and taken off fast-track asylum list http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/12/10/godzilla-trailer-is-released/ http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/12/10/godzilla-trailer-i... Headline 'Godzilla' Trailer Is Released There are very many other examples of native English speakers using released like these two examples.
    - dragonwriter 13y ago
      > Technically maybe, but when has a native speaker ever written that? "X is released" is the most common way I've seen native speakers write it, though there is a common trend on the internet in the last few years (which may be largely driven by non-native speakers) to reverse the usual role of subject and object of the verb "release" and say "X releases". "X has been released" is, AFAICT, far less common than even the new "X releases" construction.
    - eCa 13y ago
      I would guess that most of the 12,000,000+ hits [0] on G has been written by natives. [0] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22is+released%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=%22is+released%22
      - TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago
        Or even better, on Google Ngram viewer: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=is+released%2Chas+been+released&year_start=1800&year_end=2013&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cis%20released%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Chas%20been%20released%3B%2Cc0 https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=is+released%2C... Hey, "is released" is more common than "has been released"!
prteja11 13y ago
Love this - All Java plug-ins are defaulted to 'click to play' I tried convincing my coworkers to disable java and failed (we are not developers).
- csmuk 13y ago
  This is great news! It means I can actually have a full java plugin installation and just activate the applets I know are safe! I can have my java and eat it, but people can't make it eat me :)
  - fredsted 13y ago
    Hasn't this been possible with extensions though?
    - Drexl 13y ago
      Sure, but teaching people to install, or even feel comfortable installing, such things can be a challenge sometimes. :-/
      - ordinary 13y ago
        Irony. :(
    - csmuk 13y ago
      Yeah but they're all crap.
- a1a 13y ago
  I do not think this is a good solution. This is once again just smashing another security trade-off in the face of the end-user. Once the user is responsible they can be blamed and the browser is considered secure with stupid users. If the developers at mozilla can't verify the security of the applet, how on earth would my grandmother be able to? Note: This is not an attack against mozilla in particular, almost all vendors does this (e.g. "antivirus: wanna allow suspicious file?" or "browser: invalid certificate". These questions are asked as if everyone is a computer scientist. We developers need to start formulating these questions so they can be answered by a normal person. Note 2: I guess it's better than doing nothing at all, since it might stop some drive-by attacks.
caissy 13y ago
> There is no longer a prompt when websites use appcache. Quite happy with this one. I had to develop an offline web-based application a few weeks ago and it really bugged me that I had to allow the application to use the offline cache.
- pwnna 13y ago
  This could be both good and bad.. I would like to enable the prompt.
  - kps 13y ago
    about:config → offline-apps.allow_by_default → false
- super_mario 13y ago
  I'd like to know if some web developer has decided to use 5 GB of offline storage for their app.
  - caissy 13y ago
    Well, AppCache works just as an offline caching system for webpage assets (html files, images, javascripts, css, etc). So yeah it's technically possible to have a 5 GB offline cache, but the browser will need to download all the data first.
  - untog 13y ago
    IIRC most (all?) browsers prompt you when usage goes above a certain limit (5MB, I think). Firefox was the only one that asked you before the site saved a single byte.
- eps 13y ago
  Aye. Those pesky visitors who block, purge and otherwise mess with my tracking cookies shall finally be profiled and analyzed. Great development indeed.
pwnna 13y ago
> Support for H.264 on Linux if the appropriate gstreamer plug-ins are installed \o/
- GhotiFish 13y ago
  If Google didn't buckle like a house of cards on this. I wonder where we'd be? arg.
  - gcr 13y ago
    Are you referring to this? http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/61927.html http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/61927.html
  - acdha 13y ago
    > If Google didn't buckle like a house of cards on this. I wonder where we'd be? Content providers weren't jumping to more double their storage costs or deal with another immature toolchain so I rather suspect we'd be where we are now: Flash got an extra couple years reprieve until everyone accepts reality and implements H.264. This is particularly true since no matter WebM's merits it was going to be worse when transcoded from the H.264 almost everyone is actually uploading. The real fight needs to be over the next generation of codecs. If H.265 has serious competition there's a lot more reason to believe things will go differently, as they did with e.g. Opus where the open solution was also better in addition to being free.
    - protomyth 13y ago
      I dearly wish the MPEG-LA members would just charge for the patents for hardware implementations and go royalty-free for software and content for H.265. It would still make them money and get it standard quick.
      - Joeri 13y ago
        If we're going to be wishing for things, why not just wish for the end of software patents? This stuff shouldn't be patent-encumbered in the first place. It could have been developed like html5, a bunch of companies with common interests agreeing on a standard without charging for it. But because this is patentable matter that was impossible from the outset. The shape of the legal system enforces the shape of the industry.
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crb002 13y ago
Lol. I like the unresolved finger given to Flash.
- scrabble 13y ago
  I encounter this issue frequently, so I'd prefer if it was resolved.
kibwen 13y ago
According to the #ux channel on irc.mozilla.org, Australis will be relegated to Nightly builds (Firefox 29) for a while yet, and might be as late as Firefox 30 depending on the speed at which bugfixes roll in. Sorry, Aurora users. :(
- JohnTHaller 13y ago
  That still means it would only be about 5 months.
  - yeukhon 13y ago
    Yeah. to clarify for people who are not clear, see this https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar
    - systems 13y ago
      will the linux version still show the window frame on top of the tabs? Update: seems so http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/blog-images/australis-landing-on-nightly/intro-image-large.jpg http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/blog-images/australis-... why didnt they take this chance to fix this, chromium does it>
      - kbrosnan 13y ago
        If you use Gnome I've been reasonably happy with htitle. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/htitle/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/htitle/
      - zobzu 13y ago
        i just hide the title bar with the window manager, its linux after all ;-)
      - Mikeb85 13y ago
        The Unity DE for Ubuntu hides the frame when it's maximized, and integrates the menus into the global bar...
Ygg2 13y ago
I have a silly request, can timings on Network tab be displayed on mouse hover? I hate having to click to measure which part took much time? This is @Mozilla Web inspector
- phaer 13y ago
  I think bugzilla, mailinglists and irc channels might be better places to request a feature request than a comment on hacker news.
  - Ygg2 13y ago
    I got no clue how to get to Bugzilla. I made other bug request, but I have no idea where those went (It was one of those Feedback sites for Mozilla with I have an idea, etc.)
    - azakai 13y ago
      Mozilla's bug tracker is at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
    - DEinspanjer 13y ago
      If you made the suggestion through a feedback mechanism, it goes into a big database along with the millions of other feedback entries. The support team at Mozilla is responsible for combing through that database looking for common themes and especially for trending issues. I'd guess your request probably isn't very common, so you probably wouldn't get the same potential attention that you would get if you were to go to bugzilla.mozilla.org and file a bug there.
  - d0ugie 13y ago
    perhaps, so long as it's not a request for WebP support
- handsomeransoms 13y ago
  Should be pretty easy to add that functionality! File a bug on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org https://bugzilla.mozilla.org. In fact, this would make a great first bug for a new contributor :)
jevinskie 13y ago
EXIF rotation was long overdue but I'm happy it finally landed!
riquito 13y ago
> Improved page load times due to no longer decoding images that aren't visible (847223) ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=847223 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=847223 ) This is pretty cool
- verytrivial 13y ago
  And it was even cooler when Opera did it several years ago.
  - Groxx 13y ago
    And Lynx before that!
    - jimmaswell 13y ago
      And echoing pages with Telnet before that.
  - untog 13y ago
    Maybe we can just agree that it's cool when users get great features?
    - mitchty 13y ago
      Yes, the constant "simpsons did it"ism in technology is rather grating.
      - ConceptJunkie 13y ago
        Yeah, "The Simpsons" did _that_ in season 17, episode 12...
  - benihana 13y ago
    Ha! I bet it sure feels good knowing you use a superior product that gets features well before the masses who use Firefox (psssh how uncool) get them.
benjamincburns 13y ago
Maybe I'm biased, but jor1k is my FF benchmark of choice these days. Sadly I'm not seeing any major performance increase over FF 25 (posting this from jor1k via links [1]). 1: http://s-macke.github.io/jor1k http://s-macke.github.io/jor1k (had to edit in the link as the ':' and '-' keys don't appear to be working)
- dijit 13y ago
  hm, that's simple 'does this use case run 1 thing particularly well.' EXIF rotation and ability to use gstreamer for video are massive feature improvements that may result in slower page generation, but the returns are far more significant. not everything has to be 'better, faster, smaller' making things generally better with _no_ regressions is difficult enough.
  - benjamincburns 13y ago
    Yeah, I phrased that poorly (was fighting with links and not thinking about my words too carefully). I didn't mean to knock the release by any means. I was only making the observation that there didn't appear to be much in the way of asm.js performance improvement this time around. And you're absolutely right; the fact that there are additional features/improvements and I get to keep the same (awesome) performance from FF 25 is very impressive and laudable. I can enumerate several FOSS projects for which this sort of thing is an issue.
- yeukhon 13y ago
  Give Firefox time. Mozilla is really small, compared to Chrome... and Firefox is stable! Hehehe. css transform is still a major performance sucker. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=css%20transform%20slow&list_id=8845913 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=css%20t...
  - bzbarsky 13y ago
    Firefox beats the pants off Chrome on benjamincburns's testcase, at least for me.
dijit 13y ago
>Support for H.264 on Linux if the appropriate gstreamer plug-ins are installed I was trying to do this for ages using plug-ins, nothing works- was told to run nightly- but I need this browser. can't wait until it makes it's way into repo's :D
dear 13y ago
Anyone with memory problem with Firefox? My FF is currently using 2G memory while I only have 13 tabs opened and most of them are just plain simple pages. I am sure it will keep sucking up memory until I do restart. This problem is not new. Is there a memory leak problem with FF?
- robin_reala 13y ago
  Sounds like a rogue addon. You could try disabling them and seeing if that helps?
  - dear 13y ago
    No addon. It's new install on a fresh new machine.
- mhurron 13y ago
  There has been for a very long time. However, now after the image rendering changes in 26, I believe most of the issues now should be related to various plugins and add-ons.
  - dear 13y ago
    Upgrading to v26 now. Will see if it helps at all.
- mccr8 13y ago
  If you look at about:memory, it can give you information about where the memory is going. If you file a bug on bugzilla with the [MemShrink] whiteboard, we can look into it and try to figure out what is happening.
  - dear 13y ago
    Thanks! I have used about:memory and 'CC', 'GC', etc, but they didn't help. I will see if this is a problem with the new version. At least older versions (25 or before) all had the similar issue.
notjustanymike 13y ago
As a developer, it would just peachy if they'd start supporting HTML5 input elements.
- acdha 13y ago
  Firefox has support for a bunch of them and that's been steadily improving – i.e. the input type=range landed in (IIRC) FF 23. You can see the current status for just about everything here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344614 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344614 As you can see from reading some of the linked tickets not all of the remaining work is trivial – there are questions about the spec, compatibility with webkit, etc: type=color: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547004 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547004 type=number: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344616 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344616 type=date: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=446510 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=446510
- daleharvey 13y ago
  Just tested on nightly, looks like range and color are implemented, date seems to be the last major one
lucb1e 13y ago
Firefox 3: Yay! Firefox 3.6: Let's see what's new! Firefox 4: oooh pretty UI (at least that's what most thought) Firefox 26: sigh another one? I think only every 10 versions should be news. Since they moved to this useless release cycle (basically replacing bugfix releases with major releases), we should shift our news upvoting from major releases to major-major releases (i.e. treat the decimal sign as if it were 2.6x instead of 26.x).
- acdha 13y ago
  > I think only every 10 versions should be news Numbers aren't intrinsically important – what would be really nice is saving the announcements for specific features of note.
  - lucb1e 13y ago
    > Numbers aren't intrinsically important True, so yeah I stand corrected about that. Now, can we tell Mozilla this and get off this ridicul^H^H^Hrapid release cycle?
    - shock 13y ago
      I actually prefer it this way rather than a big code drop every couple years.
    - acdha 13y ago
      This release cycle is great: it's not quite as fast as Chrome but it means that I can start using features for 90+% of the Firefox-using public within months of release rather than years.
      - PavlovsCat 13y ago
        Well, the version numbering system has no bearing on the frequency of updates Still, I don't see the difference between 1.0/1.01/1.02 and 1.0/2.0/3.0 -- it's still "3 versions". I say version numbers are bullshit, codenames doubly so.. just make it the release date or build number and be done with it. Automate it, and let no human ever think about it again. It's just an identifier for a specific changelog entry after all, and has no meaning by itself.
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_sabe_ 13y ago
How can this tiny minor changes be worthy of a whole version number? Firefox is the software equivalent of the Zimbabwe dollar.
- k-mcgrady 13y ago
  Because of Chrome. Until it came along version numbers meant something. Now a major version just means 6 weeks has passed since the last major version.
  - iamjustin 13y ago
    Yes, because of Chrome we no longer have to wait a ridiculous amount of time for new features. Do you remember how long it took for v4.0 to be ready? Version numbers don't have to mean something. They're just numbers, after all.
- Lagged2Death 13y ago
  Blame Google for that one - Chrome started the crazy-fast browser version numbering that's now in vogue. Chrome went from v24 to v31 this year. I think it's partly security-through-psychology; if Joe User's installation quickly winds up three versions behind, he'll be more motivated to update or to allow an update.
- bryanlarsen 13y ago
  A lot of software is developed via some sort of agile software process these days. This means a new version of the software quite regularly, released on a time basis rather than a feature basis. This is what made version numbers meaningless. There are three common solutions: time based: Ubuntu 12.04 increment the major number: Chrome 31 increment the minor number, never or rarely changing the major numbers: Linux 2.6.39 None of these solutions work well.
  - winslow 13y ago
    What is your solution then if these don't work well?
footpath 13y ago
The Android version has received a facelift as well, and it looks nice. However, I suppose there still isn't a way to manually pin sites to the about:home page if they do not show up there already?
- padenot 13y ago
  This is possible in Nightly, so it's likely to be live in release in a couple months or so.
3rd3 13y ago
I wished they would improve the PDF viewer.
- RussianCow 13y ago
  How would you like it improved? I rather like it as it is--I've completely stopped using Adobe Reader, in fact--but I'm curious to know what you think is missing.
  - omaranto 13y ago
    Speed mainly: it's unbearable on my machines. But maybe I'm a niche market: cheapskates with 5 year old laptops.
    - com2kid 13y ago
      I have a brand new beefy machine with lots of cores a big GPU and plenty of RAM, it is also dog slow on PDF documents of any appreciable length. Then again I tend to load multi-hundred page PDFs.
  - jimmaswell 13y ago
    It never renders anything as well as external viewers for me. Often missing things, more aliasing, etc
- gjm11 13y ago
  I find that it 1. is really slow, especially for long documents or ones containing large images (so, e.g., for lengthy scanned documents it's frequently just unusable); 2. renders less nicely, scanned text again being particularly awful; 3. on at least one machine I have, prints documents very badly (text comes out all fuzzy, as if the anti-aliasing is messed up somehow); 4. it has no facing-pages view. I keep using it because (a) it's the default and I'm lazy and (b) in principle I like the idea of supporting a completely free PDF viewer. But compared even with Adobe Reader (still more something like Sumatra or Foxit) the experience is grossly inferior far too often.
erichurkman 13y ago
See also the Firefox 26 for Developers: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Releases/26 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Releases/26 And Site Compatibility for Firefox 26, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Releases/26/Site_Compatibility https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Releases/26/Site... Of note, images with EXIF rotation data are now rotated correctly! And you can inspect :before and :after elements in the built-in inspector finally.
achairapart 13y ago
Firefox 25 hanged most of the time, it seems was because of Firebug. I disabled Firebug. Firefox 26 hangs at start up. CPU stuck at 100%. Almost 1 GB of ram used with 1 tab open (I can't even open a new one). What happened, Mozilla? I'm giving up with this browser.
- fzzzy 13y ago
  File a bug
- jdlshore 13y ago
  Help --> Troubleshooting Information --> Reset Firefox (if you can)
- saidajigumi 13y ago
  Anecdata: I use FF<current> heavily on a daily basis and haven't seen any of these problems. Issues of this magnitude are "set the internet on fire" problems. If a few web searches don't turn up tons of other users having these problems then it's best to assume there are local issues that need troubleshooting. Some suggestions on that: 1. Have you tried troubleshooting Firefox via Safe Mode? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-is... 2. If troubleshooting via #1 doesn't help, consider using the Profile Manager[1] to create a new, blank profile and see if your problems reproduce there. [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Profile_Manager https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Profile_Manager
  - achairapart 13y ago
    I didn't want to be so negative but I'm actually frustrated with this. Because: 1. I used to be in love with Firefox. So much. 2. A few web searches turn up tons of other problems [1], maybe mine also. Maybe not. 3. At this point, this is not just a one shot problem to sort out. This is something mining my daily productivity. [1] https://www.google.com/?q=firefox+hangs&safe=off https://www.google.com/?q=firefox+hangs&safe=off
  - nnethercote 13y ago
raverbashing 13y ago
Just clicked on "About Firefox", the upgrade was downloaded and installed. And a smaller download than downloading the new version.
shmerl 13y ago
Is there any way to update Firefox on Linux without resorting to ugly methods like running it as root and using update UI, or downloading the mar file manually and running the updater CLI tool with that file (as sudo / root)? The issue is that I use stock Mozilla build (I prefer it to Iceweasel on Debian), so I just placed it in /opt, but I don't want to give write permissions to the firefox directory to my primary user (it's kind of bad security wise). Because of no write permissions, updating UI can't update the browser naturally, unless I run it as root. And manual mar + updater method isn't nice either. Potentially there can be some better ways for updating: 1. Firefox can work with policykit and request authorization for updating (if user has it - it can ask for password). That's much better than running as root. 2. updater CLI tool can detect all the settings, channels sources and etc. from Firefox local DBs, and instead of forcing the user to manually grab some mar file, it can go and perform all that automatically. updater can be run with sudo still, but avoid all the manual steps. Both these methods would be much neater than what I usually do now.
- dkhenry 13y ago
  If you have the files dropped in /opt just chown them to your primary user. I have been running like that for some time now and there shouldn't be any issues.
  - shmerl 13y ago
    I can chown them, but isn't that bad in general? If something breaks out from the browser, it can overwrite the binary with malicious code or whatever. Is it a real concern? Regular Linux packages aren't accessible for writing for the ordniary user offering some security barrier.
    - andor 13y ago
      Such code could also install a separate malware binary, overwriting the Firefox binary is only one possibility. If you really want to prevent malicious writes, use SELinux (or AppArmor, I guess).
    - riquito 13y ago
shmerl 13y ago
About gstreamer video playback: I didn't find a way to prioritize formats. Let's say some video is available in VPx (WebM) and H.264 (mp4). Firefox will pick first whatever is listed first on the page. So for me it always picks H.264 on Youtube. I prefer to use open codecs though when there is a choice, but there is no apparent way to set the priority.
- russellsprouts 13y ago
  I think the browser is supposed to load them by the order listed in the HTML. <video> <source src="foo.mp4"> <source src="foo.webm"> </video> Unfortunately, I think there were bugs in older browsers, so they broke if mp4 was not listed first. So most websites list mp4 first.
  - shmerl 13y ago
    May be an add-on can allow overriding the priority. I'll take a look if it's possible.
anymane 13y ago
I am curious about this change in the changelog. "Password manager now supports script-generated password fields" I couldn't easily find any details about. Would someone be kind enough to elaborate on what it does and where it is useful?
- _doug_ 13y ago
  see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355063 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355063
  - anymane 13y ago
    Thanks
  - snogglethorpe 13y ago
    Wow, that bug is over seven years old! It's oddly gratifying to see bugs that old getting fixed...
xfalcox 13y ago
Can we see the gzipped size side by side with real size on network panel?
xfalcox 13y ago
Can we see the gzipped size side by side with real size on network panel?
super_mario 13y ago
These frequent updates are going to kill Firefox and it's partially Google's fault. Basically, Google has managed somehow to coax Firefox developers to rapid release cycle with frequent Chrome updates. But this goes against Firefox users. Why do people use Firefox? Most users claim extensions. What breaks extensions? Frequent updates. Effectively annulling the most compelling reason to use Firefox. This is certainly my experience. Pentadactyl, the most compelling reason for me personally to keep using Firefox is more broken than not. Every single update in the last year has broken it and sometimes in non-trivial ways, and stretching my patience to the limit. If I have to abandon Pentadactyl, I really don't have a reason to use Firefox anymore. UI changes proposed in Australis are not something to look forward to either esp. if you like hiding Firefox UI elements and basically just keeping undecorated minimal window with Pentadactyl.
- dewiz 13y ago
  I've used FF since the first release and I remember how everyone was stuck with a slow FF 3.X. I welcome these frequent changes, FF is reborn, faster, better. If only this happened before perhaps not many users would be using Chrome these days.
- Edvik 13y ago
  I switched to Chrome because it was faster and I didn't care about extensions. I switched back to Firefox because it became faster than Chrome (from my user experience, I don't know about tests and whatnot) Many of these updates are helping them stay fast and haven't resulted in any bloat (yet), so at least from my perspective, great!
- mcpherrinm 13y ago
  It looks to me like Pentadactyl hasn't had an update on addons.mozilla.org since over a year ago, while the "other side" of the political fork, Vimperator, was updated just under 4 weeks ago. I use Vimperator on Nightly with very few perceived bugs (nonzero, but that comes with the Nightly territory). In my mind, the quicker iteration on features and improved code quality that came from rapid releases is well worth breaking a year-old addon, especially one as invasive into the browser as Vimperator. Addons written with the Add-on SDK (aka Jetpack) are also much more stable across versions, though they're not the browser-transforming beasts that Vimperator is. I don't really like web browsers as a platform, but I don't think restricting the pace that new features are released is productive.
known 13y ago
Great Browser. Thank you Mozilla.
mar1 13y ago
I'm using Archlinux and I have the H.264 GStreamer plugin installed (as well as base+bad+good+ugly codecs), but with Firefox 26 I still can't play a lot of YouTube videos when Flash is disabled, for example when I try to play Gangnam Style it tells me "The Adobe Flash Player is required for video playback". Is that related to advertisements? Would it be possible to develop a plugin or a GreaseMonkey script that would allow to play every YouTube video in HTML5 with Firefox? If yes, does it exist?
- drill_sarge 13y ago
  https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/87011 https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/87011 No need for Flash anymore, works on every video
drill_sarge 13y ago
If you are on beta channel and the integrated updater is too slow for you, you can grab 27b1 here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/27.0b1/ https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/27....

305 points by lambda_cube 13y ago

nodata 13y ago

"has been released" or "is out".

JangoSteve 13y ago
Technically speaking, "released" can also be a state, so "is released" (as in "is in the released state") works too.
- nodata 13y ago
  Technically maybe, but when has a native speaker ever written that?
  - fzzzy 13y ago
    I don't think there is anything wrong with that wording.
  - DanBC 13y ago
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/russian-bisexual-activist-irina-putilova-is-released-from-detention-and-taken-off-fasttrack-asylum-list-8995978.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/russian-bisex... > Russian bisexual activist Irina Putilova is released from detention and taken off fast-track asylum list http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/12/10/godzilla-trailer-is-released/ http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/12/10/godzilla-trailer-i... Headline 'Godzilla' Trailer Is Released There are very many other examples of native English speakers using released like these two examples.
  - dragonwriter 13y ago
    > Technically maybe, but when has a native speaker ever written that? "X is released" is the most common way I've seen native speakers write it, though there is a common trend on the internet in the last few years (which may be largely driven by non-native speakers) to reverse the usual role of subject and object of the verb "release" and say "X releases". "X has been released" is, AFAICT, far less common than even the new "X releases" construction.
  - eCa 13y ago
    I would guess that most of the 12,000,000+ hits [0] on G has been written by natives. [0] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22is+released%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=%22is+released%22
    - TazeTSchnitzel 13y ago
      Or even better, on Google Ngram viewer: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=is+released%2Chas+been+released&year_start=1800&year_end=2013&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cis%20released%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Chas%20been%20released%3B%2Cc0 https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=is+released%2C... Hey, "is released" is more common than "has been released"!

prteja11 13y ago

Love this - All Java plug-ins are defaulted to 'click to play' I tried convincing my coworkers to disable java and failed (we are not developers).

csmuk 13y ago
This is great news! It means I can actually have a full java plugin installation and just activate the applets I know are safe! I can have my java and eat it, but people can't make it eat me :)
- fredsted 13y ago
  Hasn't this been possible with extensions though?
  - Drexl 13y ago
    Sure, but teaching people to install, or even feel comfortable installing, such things can be a challenge sometimes. :-/
    - ordinary 13y ago
      Irony. :(
  - csmuk 13y ago
    Yeah but they're all crap.
a1a 13y ago
I do not think this is a good solution. This is once again just smashing another security trade-off in the face of the end-user. Once the user is responsible they can be blamed and the browser is considered secure with stupid users. If the developers at mozilla can't verify the security of the applet, how on earth would my grandmother be able to? Note: This is not an attack against mozilla in particular, almost all vendors does this (e.g. "antivirus: wanna allow suspicious file?" or "browser: invalid certificate". These questions are asked as if everyone is a computer scientist. We developers need to start formulating these questions so they can be answered by a normal person. Note 2: I guess it's better than doing nothing at all, since it might stop some drive-by attacks.

caissy 13y ago

> There is no longer a prompt when websites use appcache. Quite happy with this one. I had to develop an offline web-based application a few weeks ago and it really bugged me that I had to allow the application to use the offline cache.

pwnna 13y ago
This could be both good and bad.. I would like to enable the prompt.
- kps 13y ago
  about:config → offline-apps.allow_by_default → false
super_mario 13y ago
I'd like to know if some web developer has decided to use 5 GB of offline storage for their app.
- caissy 13y ago
  Well, AppCache works just as an offline caching system for webpage assets (html files, images, javascripts, css, etc). So yeah it's technically possible to have a 5 GB offline cache, but the browser will need to download all the data first.
- untog 13y ago
  IIRC most (all?) browsers prompt you when usage goes above a certain limit (5MB, I think). Firefox was the only one that asked you before the site saved a single byte.
eps 13y ago
Aye. Those pesky visitors who block, purge and otherwise mess with my tracking cookies shall finally be profiled and analyzed. Great development indeed.

pwnna 13y ago

> Support for H.264 on Linux if the appropriate gstreamer plug-ins are installed \o/

GhotiFish 13y ago
If Google didn't buckle like a house of cards on this. I wonder where we'd be? arg.
- gcr 13y ago
  Are you referring to this? http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/61927.html http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/61927.html
- acdha 13y ago
  > If Google didn't buckle like a house of cards on this. I wonder where we'd be? Content providers weren't jumping to more double their storage costs or deal with another immature toolchain so I rather suspect we'd be where we are now: Flash got an extra couple years reprieve until everyone accepts reality and implements H.264. This is particularly true since no matter WebM's merits it was going to be worse when transcoded from the H.264 almost everyone is actually uploading. The real fight needs to be over the next generation of codecs. If H.265 has serious competition there's a lot more reason to believe things will go differently, as they did with e.g. Opus where the open solution was also better in addition to being free.
  - protomyth 13y ago
    I dearly wish the MPEG-LA members would just charge for the patents for hardware implementations and go royalty-free for software and content for H.265. It would still make them money and get it standard quick.
    - Joeri 13y ago
      If we're going to be wishing for things, why not just wish for the end of software patents? This stuff shouldn't be patent-encumbered in the first place. It could have been developed like html5, a bunch of companies with common interests agreeing on a standard without charging for it. But because this is patentable matter that was impossible from the outset. The shape of the legal system enforces the shape of the industry.

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crb002 13y ago

Lol. I like the unresolved finger given to Flash.

scrabble 13y ago
I encounter this issue frequently, so I'd prefer if it was resolved.

kibwen 13y ago

According to the #ux channel on irc.mozilla.org, Australis will be relegated to Nightly builds (Firefox 29) for a while yet, and might be as late as Firefox 30 depending on the speed at which bugfixes roll in. Sorry, Aurora users. :(

JohnTHaller 13y ago
That still means it would only be about 5 months.
- yeukhon 13y ago
  Yeah. to clarify for people who are not clear, see this https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar
  - systems 13y ago
    will the linux version still show the window frame on top of the tabs? Update: seems so http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/blog-images/australis-landing-on-nightly/intro-image-large.jpg http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/blog-images/australis-... why didnt they take this chance to fix this, chromium does it>
    - kbrosnan 13y ago
      If you use Gnome I've been reasonably happy with htitle. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/htitle/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/htitle/
    - zobzu 13y ago
      i just hide the title bar with the window manager, its linux after all ;-)
    - Mikeb85 13y ago
      The Unity DE for Ubuntu hides the frame when it's maximized, and integrates the menus into the global bar...

Ygg2 13y ago

I have a silly request, can timings on Network tab be displayed on mouse hover? I hate having to click to measure which part took much time? This is @Mozilla Web inspector

phaer 13y ago
I think bugzilla, mailinglists and irc channels might be better places to request a feature request than a comment on hacker news.
- Ygg2 13y ago
  I got no clue how to get to Bugzilla. I made other bug request, but I have no idea where those went (It was one of those Feedback sites for Mozilla with I have an idea, etc.)
  - azakai 13y ago
    Mozilla's bug tracker is at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
  - DEinspanjer 13y ago
    If you made the suggestion through a feedback mechanism, it goes into a big database along with the millions of other feedback entries. The support team at Mozilla is responsible for combing through that database looking for common themes and especially for trending issues. I'd guess your request probably isn't very common, so you probably wouldn't get the same potential attention that you would get if you were to go to bugzilla.mozilla.org and file a bug there.
- d0ugie 13y ago
  perhaps, so long as it's not a request for WebP support
handsomeransoms 13y ago
Should be pretty easy to add that functionality! File a bug on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org https://bugzilla.mozilla.org. In fact, this would make a great first bug for a new contributor :)

jevinskie 13y ago

EXIF rotation was long overdue but I'm happy it finally landed!

riquito 13y ago

> Improved page load times due to no longer decoding images that aren't visible (847223) ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=847223 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=847223 ) This is pretty cool

verytrivial 13y ago
And it was even cooler when Opera did it several years ago.
- Groxx 13y ago
  And Lynx before that!
  - jimmaswell 13y ago
    And echoing pages with Telnet before that.
- untog 13y ago
  Maybe we can just agree that it's cool when users get great features?
  - mitchty 13y ago
    Yes, the constant "simpsons did it"ism in technology is rather grating.
    - ConceptJunkie 13y ago
      Yeah, "The Simpsons" did _that_ in season 17, episode 12...
- benihana 13y ago
  Ha! I bet it sure feels good knowing you use a superior product that gets features well before the masses who use Firefox (psssh how uncool) get them.

benjamincburns 13y ago

Maybe I'm biased, but jor1k is my FF benchmark of choice these days. Sadly I'm not seeing any major performance increase over FF 25 (posting this from jor1k via links [1]). 1: http://s-macke.github.io/jor1k http://s-macke.github.io/jor1k (had to edit in the link as the ':' and '-' keys don't appear to be working)

dijit 13y ago
hm, that's simple 'does this use case run 1 thing particularly well.' EXIF rotation and ability to use gstreamer for video are massive feature improvements that may result in slower page generation, but the returns are far more significant. not everything has to be 'better, faster, smaller' making things generally better with _no_ regressions is difficult enough.
- benjamincburns 13y ago
  Yeah, I phrased that poorly (was fighting with links and not thinking about my words too carefully). I didn't mean to knock the release by any means. I was only making the observation that there didn't appear to be much in the way of asm.js performance improvement this time around. And you're absolutely right; the fact that there are additional features/improvements and I get to keep the same (awesome) performance from FF 25 is very impressive and laudable. I can enumerate several FOSS projects for which this sort of thing is an issue.
yeukhon 13y ago
Give Firefox time. Mozilla is really small, compared to Chrome... and Firefox is stable! Hehehe. css transform is still a major performance sucker. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=css%20transform%20slow&list_id=8845913 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=css%20t...
- bzbarsky 13y ago
  Firefox beats the pants off Chrome on benjamincburns's testcase, at least for me.

dijit 13y ago

>Support for H.264 on Linux if the appropriate gstreamer plug-ins are installed I was trying to do this for ages using plug-ins, nothing works- was told to run nightly- but I need this browser. can't wait until it makes it's way into repo's :D

dear 13y ago

Anyone with memory problem with Firefox? My FF is currently using 2G memory while I only have 13 tabs opened and most of them are just plain simple pages. I am sure it will keep sucking up memory until I do restart. This problem is not new. Is there a memory leak problem with FF?

robin_reala 13y ago
Sounds like a rogue addon. You could try disabling them and seeing if that helps?
- dear 13y ago
  No addon. It's new install on a fresh new machine.
mhurron 13y ago
There has been for a very long time. However, now after the image rendering changes in 26, I believe most of the issues now should be related to various plugins and add-ons.
- dear 13y ago
  Upgrading to v26 now. Will see if it helps at all.
mccr8 13y ago
If you look at about:memory, it can give you information about where the memory is going. If you file a bug on bugzilla with the [MemShrink] whiteboard, we can look into it and try to figure out what is happening.
- dear 13y ago
  Thanks! I have used about:memory and 'CC', 'GC', etc, but they didn't help. I will see if this is a problem with the new version. At least older versions (25 or before) all had the similar issue.

notjustanymike 13y ago

As a developer, it would just peachy if they'd start supporting HTML5 input elements.

acdha 13y ago
Firefox has support for a bunch of them and that's been steadily improving – i.e. the input type=range landed in (IIRC) FF 23. You can see the current status for just about everything here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344614 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344614 As you can see from reading some of the linked tickets not all of the remaining work is trivial – there are questions about the spec, compatibility with webkit, etc: type=color: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547004 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547004 type=number: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344616 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344616 type=date: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=446510 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=446510
daleharvey 13y ago
Just tested on nightly, looks like range and color are implemented, date seems to be the last major one

lucb1e 13y ago

Firefox 3: Yay! Firefox 3.6: Let's see what's new! Firefox 4: oooh pretty UI (at least that's what most thought) Firefox 26: sigh another one? I think only every 10 versions should be news. Since they moved to this useless release cycle (basically replacing bugfix releases with major releases), we should shift our news upvoting from major releases to major-major releases (i.e. treat the decimal sign as if it were 2.6x instead of 26.x).

acdha 13y ago
> I think only every 10 versions should be news Numbers aren't intrinsically important – what would be really nice is saving the announcements for specific features of note.
- lucb1e 13y ago
  > Numbers aren't intrinsically important True, so yeah I stand corrected about that. Now, can we tell Mozilla this and get off this ridicul^H^H^Hrapid release cycle?
  - shock 13y ago
    I actually prefer it this way rather than a big code drop every couple years.
  - acdha 13y ago
    This release cycle is great: it's not quite as fast as Chrome but it means that I can start using features for 90+% of the Firefox-using public within months of release rather than years.
    - PavlovsCat 13y ago
      Well, the version numbering system has no bearing on the frequency of updates Still, I don't see the difference between 1.0/1.01/1.02 and 1.0/2.0/3.0 -- it's still "3 versions". I say version numbers are bullshit, codenames doubly so.. just make it the release date or build number and be done with it. Automate it, and let no human ever think about it again. It's just an identifier for a specific changelog entry after all, and has no meaning by itself.

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_sabe_ 13y ago

How can this tiny minor changes be worthy of a whole version number? Firefox is the software equivalent of the Zimbabwe dollar.

k-mcgrady 13y ago
Because of Chrome. Until it came along version numbers meant something. Now a major version just means 6 weeks has passed since the last major version.
- iamjustin 13y ago
  Yes, because of Chrome we no longer have to wait a ridiculous amount of time for new features. Do you remember how long it took for v4.0 to be ready? Version numbers don't have to mean something. They're just numbers, after all.
Lagged2Death 13y ago
Blame Google for that one - Chrome started the crazy-fast browser version numbering that's now in vogue. Chrome went from v24 to v31 this year. I think it's partly security-through-psychology; if Joe User's installation quickly winds up three versions behind, he'll be more motivated to update or to allow an update.
bryanlarsen 13y ago
A lot of software is developed via some sort of agile software process these days. This means a new version of the software quite regularly, released on a time basis rather than a feature basis. This is what made version numbers meaningless. There are three common solutions: time based: Ubuntu 12.04 increment the major number: Chrome 31 increment the minor number, never or rarely changing the major numbers: Linux 2.6.39 None of these solutions work well.
- winslow 13y ago
  What is your solution then if these don't work well?

footpath 13y ago

The Android version has received a facelift as well, and it looks nice. However, I suppose there still isn't a way to manually pin sites to the about:home page if they do not show up there already?

padenot 13y ago
This is possible in Nightly, so it's likely to be live in release in a couple months or so.

3rd3 13y ago

I wished they would improve the PDF viewer.

RussianCow 13y ago
How would you like it improved? I rather like it as it is--I've completely stopped using Adobe Reader, in fact--but I'm curious to know what you think is missing.
- omaranto 13y ago
  Speed mainly: it's unbearable on my machines. But maybe I'm a niche market: cheapskates with 5 year old laptops.
  - com2kid 13y ago
    I have a brand new beefy machine with lots of cores a big GPU and plenty of RAM, it is also dog slow on PDF documents of any appreciable length. Then again I tend to load multi-hundred page PDFs.
- jimmaswell 13y ago
  It never renders anything as well as external viewers for me. Often missing things, more aliasing, etc
gjm11 13y ago
I find that it 1. is really slow, especially for long documents or ones containing large images (so, e.g., for lengthy scanned documents it's frequently just unusable); 2. renders less nicely, scanned text again being particularly awful; 3. on at least one machine I have, prints documents very badly (text comes out all fuzzy, as if the anti-aliasing is messed up somehow); 4. it has no facing-pages view. I keep using it because (a) it's the default and I'm lazy and (b) in principle I like the idea of supporting a completely free PDF viewer. But compared even with Adobe Reader (still more something like Sumatra or Foxit) the experience is grossly inferior far too often.

erichurkman 13y ago

See also the Firefox 26 for Developers: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Releases/26 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Releases/26 And Site Compatibility for Firefox 26, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Releases/26/Site_Compatibility https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Releases/26/Site... Of note, images with EXIF rotation data are now rotated correctly! And you can inspect :before and :after elements in the built-in inspector finally.

achairapart 13y ago

Firefox 25 hanged most of the time, it seems was because of Firebug. I disabled Firebug. Firefox 26 hangs at start up. CPU stuck at 100%. Almost 1 GB of ram used with 1 tab open (I can't even open a new one). What happened, Mozilla? I'm giving up with this browser.

fzzzy 13y ago
File a bug
jdlshore 13y ago
Help --> Troubleshooting Information --> Reset Firefox (if you can)
saidajigumi 13y ago
Anecdata: I use FF<current> heavily on a daily basis and haven't seen any of these problems. Issues of this magnitude are "set the internet on fire" problems. If a few web searches don't turn up tons of other users having these problems then it's best to assume there are local issues that need troubleshooting. Some suggestions on that: 1. Have you tried troubleshooting Firefox via Safe Mode? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-is... 2. If troubleshooting via #1 doesn't help, consider using the Profile Manager[1] to create a new, blank profile and see if your problems reproduce there. [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Profile_Manager https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Profile_Manager
- achairapart 13y ago
  I didn't want to be so negative but I'm actually frustrated with this. Because: 1. I used to be in love with Firefox. So much. 2. A few web searches turn up tons of other problems [1], maybe mine also. Maybe not. 3. At this point, this is not just a one shot problem to sort out. This is something mining my daily productivity. [1] https://www.google.com/?q=firefox+hangs&safe=off https://www.google.com/?q=firefox+hangs&safe=off
- nnethercote 13y ago

raverbashing 13y ago

Just clicked on "About Firefox", the upgrade was downloaded and installed. And a smaller download than downloading the new version.

shmerl 13y ago

Is there any way to update Firefox on Linux without resorting to ugly methods like running it as root and using update UI, or downloading the mar file manually and running the updater CLI tool with that file (as sudo / root)? The issue is that I use stock Mozilla build (I prefer it to Iceweasel on Debian), so I just placed it in /opt, but I don't want to give write permissions to the firefox directory to my primary user (it's kind of bad security wise). Because of no write permissions, updating UI can't update the browser naturally, unless I run it as root. And manual mar + updater method isn't nice either. Potentially there can be some better ways for updating: 1. Firefox can work with policykit and request authorization for updating (if user has it - it can ask for password). That's much better than running as root. 2. updater CLI tool can detect all the settings, channels sources and etc. from Firefox local DBs, and instead of forcing the user to manually grab some mar file, it can go and perform all that automatically. updater can be run with sudo still, but avoid all the manual steps. Both these methods would be much neater than what I usually do now.

dkhenry 13y ago
If you have the files dropped in /opt just chown them to your primary user. I have been running like that for some time now and there shouldn't be any issues.
- shmerl 13y ago
  I can chown them, but isn't that bad in general? If something breaks out from the browser, it can overwrite the binary with malicious code or whatever. Is it a real concern? Regular Linux packages aren't accessible for writing for the ordniary user offering some security barrier.
  - andor 13y ago
    Such code could also install a separate malware binary, overwriting the Firefox binary is only one possibility. If you really want to prevent malicious writes, use SELinux (or AppArmor, I guess).
  - riquito 13y ago

shmerl 13y ago

About gstreamer video playback: I didn't find a way to prioritize formats. Let's say some video is available in VPx (WebM) and H.264 (mp4). Firefox will pick first whatever is listed first on the page. So for me it always picks H.264 on Youtube. I prefer to use open codecs though when there is a choice, but there is no apparent way to set the priority.

russellsprouts 13y ago
I think the browser is supposed to load them by the order listed in the HTML. <video> <source src="foo.mp4"> <source src="foo.webm"> </video> Unfortunately, I think there were bugs in older browsers, so they broke if mp4 was not listed first. So most websites list mp4 first.
- shmerl 13y ago
  May be an add-on can allow overriding the priority. I'll take a look if it's possible.

anymane 13y ago

I am curious about this change in the changelog. "Password manager now supports script-generated password fields" I couldn't easily find any details about. Would someone be kind enough to elaborate on what it does and where it is useful?

_doug_ 13y ago
see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355063 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355063
- anymane 13y ago
  Thanks
- snogglethorpe 13y ago
  Wow, that bug is over seven years old! It's oddly gratifying to see bugs that old getting fixed...

xfalcox 13y ago

Can we see the gzipped size side by side with real size on network panel?

xfalcox 13y ago

Can we see the gzipped size side by side with real size on network panel?

super_mario 13y ago

These frequent updates are going to kill Firefox and it's partially Google's fault. Basically, Google has managed somehow to coax Firefox developers to rapid release cycle with frequent Chrome updates. But this goes against Firefox users. Why do people use Firefox? Most users claim extensions. What breaks extensions? Frequent updates. Effectively annulling the most compelling reason to use Firefox. This is certainly my experience. Pentadactyl, the most compelling reason for me personally to keep using Firefox is more broken than not. Every single update in the last year has broken it and sometimes in non-trivial ways, and stretching my patience to the limit. If I have to abandon Pentadactyl, I really don't have a reason to use Firefox anymore. UI changes proposed in Australis are not something to look forward to either esp. if you like hiding Firefox UI elements and basically just keeping undecorated minimal window with Pentadactyl.

dewiz 13y ago
I've used FF since the first release and I remember how everyone was stuck with a slow FF 3.X. I welcome these frequent changes, FF is reborn, faster, better. If only this happened before perhaps not many users would be using Chrome these days.
Edvik 13y ago
I switched to Chrome because it was faster and I didn't care about extensions. I switched back to Firefox because it became faster than Chrome (from my user experience, I don't know about tests and whatnot) Many of these updates are helping them stay fast and haven't resulted in any bloat (yet), so at least from my perspective, great!
mcpherrinm 13y ago
It looks to me like Pentadactyl hasn't had an update on addons.mozilla.org since over a year ago, while the "other side" of the political fork, Vimperator, was updated just under 4 weeks ago. I use Vimperator on Nightly with very few perceived bugs (nonzero, but that comes with the Nightly territory). In my mind, the quicker iteration on features and improved code quality that came from rapid releases is well worth breaking a year-old addon, especially one as invasive into the browser as Vimperator. Addons written with the Add-on SDK (aka Jetpack) are also much more stable across versions, though they're not the browser-transforming beasts that Vimperator is. I don't really like web browsers as a platform, but I don't think restricting the pace that new features are released is productive.

known 13y ago

Great Browser. Thank you Mozilla.

mar1 13y ago

I'm using Archlinux and I have the H.264 GStreamer plugin installed (as well as base+bad+good+ugly codecs), but with Firefox 26 I still can't play a lot of YouTube videos when Flash is disabled, for example when I try to play Gangnam Style it tells me "The Adobe Flash Player is required for video playback". Is that related to advertisements? Would it be possible to develop a plugin or a GreaseMonkey script that would allow to play every YouTube video in HTML5 with Firefox? If yes, does it exist?

drill_sarge 13y ago
https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/87011 https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/87011 No need for Flash anymore, works on every video

drill_sarge 13y ago

If you are on beta channel and the integrated updater is too slow for you, you can grab 27b1 here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/27.0b1/ https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/27....