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Totally reminds me of "HP Offers 'That Cloud Thing Everyone Is Talking About'" https://youtube.com/watch?v=9ntPxdWAWq8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=9ntPxdWAWq8

kingleopold 14d ago
yet hp exist after decades, just a terrible printer corp going long term is insane really
- nateglims 14d ago
  I suspect their enterprise computer business creates more revenue than printers.
  - zimbu668 13d ago
    Printers are just a loss leader for toner.
    - JAlexoid 13d ago
      If you put 90% of the electronics into the cartridge and the printer box is just a paper feeder - that's not exactly surprising.
      - actionfromafar 13d ago
        "Just" feeding paper is extreme engineering. And a disposable vape has more compute in it than a toner cartridge. (Though there is insane non recurring engineering in an inkjet cartridge. But I bet just the warehousing of a printer is a significant part of the total cost of a printer.
      - dd8601fn 13d ago
        HP retail ink cartridge prices are not a cost issue.
- kylecazar 14d ago
  They're the 2nd biggest PC manufacturer in the world. Sell more computers than Dell, Apple, etc. Only beaten by Lenovo.
  - philipov 13d ago
    and Lenovo is itself an IBM spinoff. After the company rebranded itself to Lenovo, it merged with IBM's PC business which produced its ThinkPad line in 2005, after which it rapidly expanded abroad. In 2013, Lenovo became the world's largest personal computer vendor by unit sales for the first time, a position it still holds as of 2024.
    - SahAssar 13d ago
      Not a spinoff. It was founded 20 years before and was the largest PC manufacturer in China 10 years before buying IBM's PC business.
      - jonwinstanley 13d ago
        Interesting. Did not know that. I thought someone bought the IBM laptop business and renamed it.
        phyalow 13d ago
        They did, but they also were a large existing manufacturer.
        jolt42 13d ago
        I don't know what they had before but their identity seemed to be IBM's overnight (thinkpads and all).
        SahAssar 13d ago
        They used the Think(Pad|Centre) brand and expanded it to other things (like IdeaPad). They basically bought IBM's good reputation name and style and used it for both IBM-alikes and budget machines. Some of it was good machines, some of it was crap.
- flo123456 13d ago
  HP was never just a printer corp. ;-)
  - CamperBob2 13d ago
    HP is long gone. What's left is just a printer and PC company that didn't bother to change the sign on the building. It's as if I bought an old telephone exchange building and called it Bell Labs.
    - JAlexoid 13d ago
      You couldn't, mostly because Bell Labs is owned by Nokia now.
      - CamperBob2 13d ago
        Interesting, TIL! I wonder what Nokia's market cap is... geez, still over $50B. Another surprise.
        formerly_proven 13d ago
        That's basically all Nokia(-Siemens) Networks.
        ahoka 13d ago
        It's Nokia again now, bought out Siemens' share more than a decade ago.
    - dreamcompiler 13d ago
      AT&T used to exist. Because it was a monopoly, it was broken up into the baby bells in 1982. One of which was Southwestern Bell, which eventually bought up all the other baby bells and what was left of AT&T. And then in 2005 it renamed itself...AT&T.
  - InvisibleUp 13d ago
joleyj 14d ago
1000
dyzone 14d ago
How you doing fellow kids?
azinman2 14d ago
So good
hypercube33 13d ago
It kind of is - when I looked at it 6 months ago it was just a fork of vscode with old ass versions of Claude and the only unique things were java and ibm I mcp clients or servers or something built in. For those works I'd rather just have the skill or mcp for my harness of choice. I think they weren't allowed to use external AI so they run the models in house and remade cursor. Not bad to have competition but the name is awful - as others have said it's been used before by Microsoft in the 90s to make a friendly desktop giving us the winxp search dog and clippy.
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willio58 12d ago
I love this. Thanks for sharing!

kingleopold 14d ago

yet hp exist after decades, just a terrible printer corp going long term is insane really

nateglims 14d ago
I suspect their enterprise computer business creates more revenue than printers.
- zimbu668 13d ago
  Printers are just a loss leader for toner.
  - JAlexoid 13d ago
    If you put 90% of the electronics into the cartridge and the printer box is just a paper feeder - that's not exactly surprising.
    - actionfromafar 13d ago
      "Just" feeding paper is extreme engineering. And a disposable vape has more compute in it than a toner cartridge. (Though there is insane non recurring engineering in an inkjet cartridge. But I bet just the warehousing of a printer is a significant part of the total cost of a printer.
    - dd8601fn 13d ago
      HP retail ink cartridge prices are not a cost issue.
kylecazar 14d ago
They're the 2nd biggest PC manufacturer in the world. Sell more computers than Dell, Apple, etc. Only beaten by Lenovo.
- philipov 13d ago
  and Lenovo is itself an IBM spinoff. After the company rebranded itself to Lenovo, it merged with IBM's PC business which produced its ThinkPad line in 2005, after which it rapidly expanded abroad. In 2013, Lenovo became the world's largest personal computer vendor by unit sales for the first time, a position it still holds as of 2024.
  - SahAssar 13d ago
    Not a spinoff. It was founded 20 years before and was the largest PC manufacturer in China 10 years before buying IBM's PC business.
    - jonwinstanley 13d ago
      Interesting. Did not know that. I thought someone bought the IBM laptop business and renamed it.
      - phyalow 13d ago
        They did, but they also were a large existing manufacturer.
        jolt42 13d ago
        I don't know what they had before but their identity seemed to be IBM's overnight (thinkpads and all).
        SahAssar 13d ago
        They used the Think(Pad|Centre) brand and expanded it to other things (like IdeaPad). They basically bought IBM's good reputation name and style and used it for both IBM-alikes and budget machines. Some of it was good machines, some of it was crap.
flo123456 13d ago
HP was never just a printer corp. ;-)
- CamperBob2 13d ago
  HP is long gone. What's left is just a printer and PC company that didn't bother to change the sign on the building. It's as if I bought an old telephone exchange building and called it Bell Labs.
  - JAlexoid 13d ago
    You couldn't, mostly because Bell Labs is owned by Nokia now.
    - CamperBob2 13d ago
      Interesting, TIL! I wonder what Nokia's market cap is... geez, still over $50B. Another surprise.
      - formerly_proven 13d ago
        That's basically all Nokia(-Siemens) Networks.
        ahoka 13d ago
        It's Nokia again now, bought out Siemens' share more than a decade ago.
  - dreamcompiler 13d ago
    AT&T used to exist. Because it was a monopoly, it was broken up into the baby bells in 1982. One of which was Southwestern Bell, which eventually bought up all the other baby bells and what was left of AT&T. And then in 2005 it renamed itself...AT&T.
- InvisibleUp 13d ago

joleyj 14d ago

1000

dyzone 14d ago

How you doing fellow kids?

azinman2 14d ago

So good

hypercube33 13d ago

It kind of is - when I looked at it 6 months ago it was just a fork of vscode with old ass versions of Claude and the only unique things were java and ibm I mcp clients or servers or something built in. For those works I'd rather just have the skill or mcp for my harness of choice. I think they weren't allowed to use external AI so they run the models in house and remade cursor. Not bad to have competition but the name is awful - as others have said it's been used before by Microsoft in the 90s to make a friendly desktop giving us the winxp search dog and clippy.

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willio58 12d ago

I love this. Thanks for sharing!