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Google Antigravity introduces Boost deep reasoning (/boost)

82 points by simonpure 16d ago

AbuAssar 16d ago
Where is the updated gemini pro model?
epsteingpt 16d ago
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Mond_ 16d ago
absolutely crazy to make this a "paid tier user" feature. the primary difference between the free and the paid versions should be the amount of inference quota you have access to
soltanov 16d ago
is google fixed usage quota in antigravity? or still is this a problem of antigravity?
aniketsaurav18 16d ago
> Plan availability: The /boost command is available on paid plans across Google Antigravity 2.0 and the Antigravity CLI. They are ignoring antigravity IDE like it does not exist anymore. https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-ide https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-ide
- spiderfarmer 16d ago
  After everything they tried no-one ever expected Google to launch and immediately ignore a product. For real though, I think their reputation with developers is in the gutter after years of trial balloons.
- kllrnohj 16d ago
  And yet I just installed Antigravity, and it had a default checked box to also install Antigravity IDE. So someone still cares enough to try and juice the install numbers
  - unreal6 16d ago
    or alternatively nobody remembered to remove the checkbox
  - jezzamon 16d ago
    It's because they did a very bad rollout with 2.0 which totally removed the editor, which frustrated a lot of people, so then they added all these ways to install the version with the editor again to try to fix that. Their attention is definitely focused on the non IDE tool
- asaddhamani 16d ago
  > Google Antigravity's Editor view offers tab autocompletion, natural language code commands, and a configurable, and context-aware configurable agent. They’ve had this weird phrasing on this landing page for at least 6 months if not longer. It’s clearly a landing page that receives no love.
  - 0gs 16d ago
    you're telling me an AGENT is CONTEXT-AWARE? what a time to be context aware
- yegle 16d ago
  If you like the Antigravity 1.0 experience, Vscode+Antigravity Extension should be very close.
saagarjha 16d ago
Judging by this entire page being the direct output of an LLM with little editing done at all I assume the feature is probably half baked and probably just a bunch of skills or harness tweaks? In that case, why would anyone pay for this at all?
dr_kiszonka 16d ago
I gave up on Antigravity when Google changed its rules around paid plans AI quotas, leading to my AI Pro getting depleted in up to four rounds. Have they ever gotten around to fixing it or is Antigravity only feasible with their Ultra plan?
- Zarathruster 15d ago
  I'm on AI Pro. Quality is obviously not on par with Codex/Claude, but I can't complain about quantity. It feels much closer to the usage limits we had before the big nerfs.
  - dr_kiszonka 4d ago
    Thanks!
- freepiai 16d ago
  I personally gave up on Antigravity. The App itself was buggy, and it's been awhile since I even considered one of their models (maybe I should go back?). As a small personal shill I've been building www.freepi.ai which is totally free (ad+training) supported inference. It's using a PI harness but I have a webfrontend coming soon. I'd love your feedback!
pcuaron 16d ago
Excellent, so Gemini 3.7 can trash your codebase even faster (but seriously: don't trust this model)
- seanmcdirmid 16d ago
  Are 3.5, 3.6 any better? It is pretty flaky, Deepseek v4 flash is more reliable than 3.7 flash at least.
- drusepth 16d ago
  What should you be looking out for as bad behavior from this model? I've daily-driven 3.5, 3.6, and now 3.7 for however long it's been out (alongside Opus, as I hit daily limits on both subs each day) and haven't noticed anything "untrustworthy".
  - azurezyq 16d ago
    3.6 is not good. 3.7 is very reliable.
    - jeanloolz 16d ago
      same experience. I was disappointed with 3.6 flash, but 3.7 seems a game changer IMO. Gemini 3.7 flash is really really near frontier intelligence at an order of magnitude cheaper and an order of magnitude faster. The speed is a major feature, I feel this is overlooked
johnnyApplePRNG 16d ago
What's with all this AI spam for AI companies?! Seriously!? Every single hour on HN it's OpenAI does this, Gemini does that. It's all nothing. Extra reasoning. Big whoop.
- GolfPopper 16d ago
  The plates all need to keep spinning faster all the time.
CSMastermind 16d ago
It's impressive how badly Google has screwed up their models and coding products. There was a brief period of time I was using Anti-gravity as my daily driver when they first introduced it and then they just completely screwed it up.
- clumsysmurf 16d ago
  Not just their coding products. Compare Claude Desktop / ChatGPT Classic to Gemini Desktop... Gemini desktop is barbaric with less usability / polish and more UI bugs than its online web counterpart. I wasn't able to give the new ChatGPT desktop app a try because it insists on phone number for the registration flow even though I'm using a free tier.
  - AlexErrant 16d ago
    > even though I'm using a free tier Erm, that's to be expected. GPUs ain't free. Anyone can make a free account and cost them potentially infinite compute, so a phone number is a way to lock that down. Might not be the "best" way, but hey: it's free.
- MaxikCZ 16d ago
  Same. The reason I gave up was their limit inconsistency. I signed up for their cheapest sub and got what I felt was fair. I subbed for ultra and hammered the opus as much as I could - first week I couldnt hit the 5h limit at all, used 80% of weekly limit. Second week I couldnt hit the 5h limit at all, used up my weekly limit 1 day before reset. Third week I was hitting 5h limits by hour 3, weekly limit in 4 days. Last week Ive hit my 5h limit in under 40 min, and stopped using it completely. My usage was very consistent thorough the month. I wasnt launching subagents, I wasnt working with more full caches, they just tightened my limits during the month I paid like 180$ for, which was discounted 50% for first 3 months, so they wanted over 300$ to keep the sub I hit 5h limits before my cofee gets cold. Absolutely insane
  - leoedin 16d ago
    I gave up on antigravity when they retroactively changed the limits. I learnt that I'd exceeded the new, lower limits when I sat down to use it one evening - despite not having touched it for a few days. I don't mind limits, but something about the retroactive application and how it unexpectedly forced me to change my plans really angered me - I cancelled my subscription that day and have used other tools since. A real lesson in how not to treat your customers. I would probably still be paying for it if they'd applied the new limits more softly.
CuriouslyC 16d ago
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random3 16d ago
I canceled my Ultra subscription after realizing I had Sol constantly fixing anything I tried to do with Antigravity. The most frustrating experience and a waste of money. I’m sorry for Google and hope they manage to fix their disaster.
hedgehog 16d ago
On the one hand this kind of harness work is pretty interesting, on the other the blog post is light on details and sounds like existing behavior of any high end model in Claude Code, Pi, or one of the litany of other projects that people seem to be cooking up on a daily basis.
mystifyingpoi 16d ago
All these /boost, ultracode and other magic incancations seem to be just "throw more money/tokens at the problem and maybe it helps".
- jiggawatts 16d ago
  I found they work pretty well for security reviews or similar large scale, file-by-file transformations.
- nomel 16d ago
  "Hope" suggests that it's not backed by data.
  - AlexErrant 14d ago
    So... is it? You seem to be implying the opposite.
- nl 16d ago
  > /boost, ultracode and other magic incancations ultracode is different to ultrathink (because of course it is...) ultrathink was "throw more tokens" (it was a Claude feature that has gone away[1]) ultracode is "throw more tokens AND write code that creates and orchastrates subagents": https://code.claude.com/docs/en/workflows https://code.claude.com/docs/en/workflows [1] https://claudelog.com/faqs/what-is-ultrathink/ https://claudelog.com/faqs/what-is-ultrathink/ claims it has returned, but that might not be accurate
reilly3000 16d ago
I had the same poor initial experience that others reported, but has anyone been paying for it recently and using it as a serious tool? Their new models are a pretty good value and crazy fast; I wonder if the Gemini on Antigravity output is overall competitive or has some niche use case other than being a frontend for Agent Substrate and their other projects
- deleted 16d ago
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- dpweb 16d ago
  Got off Gemini before they ended the cli, was not working for me, and went to Codex and opencode/deepseek flash v4 0731 which was working ok. But got the google ai pro free 1 yr student - been liking agy quite alot actually - pretty good weekly allotment. Like the default, Flash 3.7 high. Even bought extra credits I've been hammering it all day long. People talk all day about coding but where this thing amazes me is devops. It hooked itself to discord so i can command it, set up or troubleshoot ssh servers on my home network. Blew my mind a couple times.
  - Ecko123 16d ago
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- efromvt 16d ago
  Am also curious on this! Though if it’s great now I’d need a sustained period of consistency (let’s say six months) before I try it again - the rollercoaster of getting a new randomized feature and quality experience every week got old pretty quick. (And I felt bad for recommending it to a few people at the time based on a good week)
- yegle 16d ago
  It is used seriously inside Google (the internal equivalent version). Many people swear by it and many don't think it's as good as Claude/Codex.
- doix 16d ago
eric_khun 16d ago
I have some super specialized workflow I wish I can run with their model, but looks like they don't allow programmatic call (claude code and codex allows it) in their plan.
- jezzamon 16d ago
  Not sure if it solves your problem, but there's a command line tool for Antigravity
nullmatrix 16d ago
My experience with Antigravity is that it will tell me it's completed a task or implementation that it hasn't. Like, the work is half-mostly done but not.
aboardRat4 16d ago
Which Boost version does it support?
- apavlinovic 16d ago
  Nitro Boost
nimchimpsky 16d ago
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1Kapish 16d ago
I really wish Google can revive Antigravity with some serious upgrades.
dan_voronov 16d ago
I suffered with Antigravity 1 and 2 for a long time (I’m not some weirdo, I just run a blog where I do deep dives into AI tools for programming=). The desktop version was basically unusable, so I used the console one. A couple of weeks ago I finally dropped it and switched to Pi with antigr login. With plugins you can configure it however you want. I just installed one of a deep-search plugins too: you need to add API credits from a search engine, but it can run multiple search rounds with a specified depth. Compared $20 ChatGPT and AGY plan: my weekly limit on sol/terra used to disappear in one intensive day (or two normal ones). Now they’ve added the 5-hour limit on top of that, which is even more annoying. With Google I barely notice the limits at all — the only one is Opus 4.6 (not sure why it has one), and I only use it for double-checking sometimes. The biggest problem is that the Pro model hasn’t been updated, and Flash just doesn’t produce solutions of the same quality as Sol. But it is matter of time...
- ZeroGravitas 16d ago
  I got my account blocked for using antigravity with pi, has that policy changed?
e28eta 16d ago
As someone on a google workspace plan, where the monthly price went up to include AI features, I’m disappointed that google won’t let me sign up for antigravity development plans with my workspace google ID. To the best of my knowledge, as of last week, the recommendation is to sign up with a different, personal google id. It feels like such a stereotypical big corp misstep, but based on the reputation that google’s AI products have, I guess I’m not _that_ heartbroken. It’s mostly frustration that they forced the price increase on everyone, and I’m definitely not receiving the benefit.
0xEnsp1re 16d ago
their harness is so bad, just release a new pro model and improve agy harness

82 points by simonpure 16d ago

AbuAssar 16d ago

Where is the updated gemini pro model?

epsteingpt 16d ago

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Mond_ 16d ago

absolutely crazy to make this a "paid tier user" feature. the primary difference between the free and the paid versions should be the amount of inference quota you have access to

soltanov 16d ago

is google fixed usage quota in antigravity? or still is this a problem of antigravity?

aniketsaurav18 16d ago

> Plan availability: The /boost command is available on paid plans across Google Antigravity 2.0 and the Antigravity CLI. They are ignoring antigravity IDE like it does not exist anymore. https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-ide https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-ide

spiderfarmer 16d ago
After everything they tried no-one ever expected Google to launch and immediately ignore a product. For real though, I think their reputation with developers is in the gutter after years of trial balloons.
kllrnohj 16d ago
And yet I just installed Antigravity, and it had a default checked box to also install Antigravity IDE. So someone still cares enough to try and juice the install numbers
- unreal6 16d ago
  or alternatively nobody remembered to remove the checkbox
- jezzamon 16d ago
  It's because they did a very bad rollout with 2.0 which totally removed the editor, which frustrated a lot of people, so then they added all these ways to install the version with the editor again to try to fix that. Their attention is definitely focused on the non IDE tool
asaddhamani 16d ago
> Google Antigravity's Editor view offers tab autocompletion, natural language code commands, and a configurable, and context-aware configurable agent. They’ve had this weird phrasing on this landing page for at least 6 months if not longer. It’s clearly a landing page that receives no love.
- 0gs 16d ago
  you're telling me an AGENT is CONTEXT-AWARE? what a time to be context aware
yegle 16d ago
If you like the Antigravity 1.0 experience, Vscode+Antigravity Extension should be very close.

saagarjha 16d ago

Judging by this entire page being the direct output of an LLM with little editing done at all I assume the feature is probably half baked and probably just a bunch of skills or harness tweaks? In that case, why would anyone pay for this at all?

dr_kiszonka 16d ago

I gave up on Antigravity when Google changed its rules around paid plans AI quotas, leading to my AI Pro getting depleted in up to four rounds. Have they ever gotten around to fixing it or is Antigravity only feasible with their Ultra plan?

Zarathruster 15d ago
I'm on AI Pro. Quality is obviously not on par with Codex/Claude, but I can't complain about quantity. It feels much closer to the usage limits we had before the big nerfs.
- dr_kiszonka 4d ago
  Thanks!
freepiai 16d ago
I personally gave up on Antigravity. The App itself was buggy, and it's been awhile since I even considered one of their models (maybe I should go back?). As a small personal shill I've been building www.freepi.ai which is totally free (ad+training) supported inference. It's using a PI harness but I have a webfrontend coming soon. I'd love your feedback!

pcuaron 16d ago

Excellent, so Gemini 3.7 can trash your codebase even faster (but seriously: don't trust this model)

seanmcdirmid 16d ago
Are 3.5, 3.6 any better? It is pretty flaky, Deepseek v4 flash is more reliable than 3.7 flash at least.
drusepth 16d ago
What should you be looking out for as bad behavior from this model? I've daily-driven 3.5, 3.6, and now 3.7 for however long it's been out (alongside Opus, as I hit daily limits on both subs each day) and haven't noticed anything "untrustworthy".
- azurezyq 16d ago
  3.6 is not good. 3.7 is very reliable.
  - jeanloolz 16d ago
    same experience. I was disappointed with 3.6 flash, but 3.7 seems a game changer IMO. Gemini 3.7 flash is really really near frontier intelligence at an order of magnitude cheaper and an order of magnitude faster. The speed is a major feature, I feel this is overlooked

johnnyApplePRNG 16d ago

What's with all this AI spam for AI companies?! Seriously!? Every single hour on HN it's OpenAI does this, Gemini does that. It's all nothing. Extra reasoning. Big whoop.

GolfPopper 16d ago
The plates all need to keep spinning faster all the time.

CSMastermind 16d ago

It's impressive how badly Google has screwed up their models and coding products. There was a brief period of time I was using Anti-gravity as my daily driver when they first introduced it and then they just completely screwed it up.

clumsysmurf 16d ago
Not just their coding products. Compare Claude Desktop / ChatGPT Classic to Gemini Desktop... Gemini desktop is barbaric with less usability / polish and more UI bugs than its online web counterpart. I wasn't able to give the new ChatGPT desktop app a try because it insists on phone number for the registration flow even though I'm using a free tier.
- AlexErrant 16d ago
  > even though I'm using a free tier Erm, that's to be expected. GPUs ain't free. Anyone can make a free account and cost them potentially infinite compute, so a phone number is a way to lock that down. Might not be the "best" way, but hey: it's free.
MaxikCZ 16d ago
Same. The reason I gave up was their limit inconsistency. I signed up for their cheapest sub and got what I felt was fair. I subbed for ultra and hammered the opus as much as I could - first week I couldnt hit the 5h limit at all, used 80% of weekly limit. Second week I couldnt hit the 5h limit at all, used up my weekly limit 1 day before reset. Third week I was hitting 5h limits by hour 3, weekly limit in 4 days. Last week Ive hit my 5h limit in under 40 min, and stopped using it completely. My usage was very consistent thorough the month. I wasnt launching subagents, I wasnt working with more full caches, they just tightened my limits during the month I paid like 180$ for, which was discounted 50% for first 3 months, so they wanted over 300$ to keep the sub I hit 5h limits before my cofee gets cold. Absolutely insane
- leoedin 16d ago
  I gave up on antigravity when they retroactively changed the limits. I learnt that I'd exceeded the new, lower limits when I sat down to use it one evening - despite not having touched it for a few days. I don't mind limits, but something about the retroactive application and how it unexpectedly forced me to change my plans really angered me - I cancelled my subscription that day and have used other tools since. A real lesson in how not to treat your customers. I would probably still be paying for it if they'd applied the new limits more softly.

CuriouslyC 16d ago

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random3 16d ago

I canceled my Ultra subscription after realizing I had Sol constantly fixing anything I tried to do with Antigravity. The most frustrating experience and a waste of money. I’m sorry for Google and hope they manage to fix their disaster.

hedgehog 16d ago

On the one hand this kind of harness work is pretty interesting, on the other the blog post is light on details and sounds like existing behavior of any high end model in Claude Code, Pi, or one of the litany of other projects that people seem to be cooking up on a daily basis.

mystifyingpoi 16d ago

All these /boost, ultracode and other magic incancations seem to be just "throw more money/tokens at the problem and maybe it helps".

jiggawatts 16d ago
I found they work pretty well for security reviews or similar large scale, file-by-file transformations.
nomel 16d ago
"Hope" suggests that it's not backed by data.
- AlexErrant 14d ago
  So... is it? You seem to be implying the opposite.
nl 16d ago
> /boost, ultracode and other magic incancations ultracode is different to ultrathink (because of course it is...) ultrathink was "throw more tokens" (it was a Claude feature that has gone away[1]) ultracode is "throw more tokens AND write code that creates and orchastrates subagents": https://code.claude.com/docs/en/workflows https://code.claude.com/docs/en/workflows [1] https://claudelog.com/faqs/what-is-ultrathink/ https://claudelog.com/faqs/what-is-ultrathink/ claims it has returned, but that might not be accurate

reilly3000 16d ago

I had the same poor initial experience that others reported, but has anyone been paying for it recently and using it as a serious tool? Their new models are a pretty good value and crazy fast; I wonder if the Gemini on Antigravity output is overall competitive or has some niche use case other than being a frontend for Agent Substrate and their other projects

deleted 16d ago
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dpweb 16d ago
Got off Gemini before they ended the cli, was not working for me, and went to Codex and opencode/deepseek flash v4 0731 which was working ok. But got the google ai pro free 1 yr student - been liking agy quite alot actually - pretty good weekly allotment. Like the default, Flash 3.7 high. Even bought extra credits I've been hammering it all day long. People talk all day about coding but where this thing amazes me is devops. It hooked itself to discord so i can command it, set up or troubleshoot ssh servers on my home network. Blew my mind a couple times.
- Ecko123 16d ago
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efromvt 16d ago
Am also curious on this! Though if it’s great now I’d need a sustained period of consistency (let’s say six months) before I try it again - the rollercoaster of getting a new randomized feature and quality experience every week got old pretty quick. (And I felt bad for recommending it to a few people at the time based on a good week)
yegle 16d ago
It is used seriously inside Google (the internal equivalent version). Many people swear by it and many don't think it's as good as Claude/Codex.
doix 16d ago

eric_khun 16d ago

I have some super specialized workflow I wish I can run with their model, but looks like they don't allow programmatic call (claude code and codex allows it) in their plan.

jezzamon 16d ago
Not sure if it solves your problem, but there's a command line tool for Antigravity

nullmatrix 16d ago

My experience with Antigravity is that it will tell me it's completed a task or implementation that it hasn't. Like, the work is half-mostly done but not.

aboardRat4 16d ago

Which Boost version does it support?

apavlinovic 16d ago
Nitro Boost

nimchimpsky 16d ago

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1Kapish 16d ago

I really wish Google can revive Antigravity with some serious upgrades.

dan_voronov 16d ago

I suffered with Antigravity 1 and 2 for a long time (I’m not some weirdo, I just run a blog where I do deep dives into AI tools for programming=). The desktop version was basically unusable, so I used the console one. A couple of weeks ago I finally dropped it and switched to Pi with antigr login. With plugins you can configure it however you want. I just installed one of a deep-search plugins too: you need to add API credits from a search engine, but it can run multiple search rounds with a specified depth. Compared $20 ChatGPT and AGY plan: my weekly limit on sol/terra used to disappear in one intensive day (or two normal ones). Now they’ve added the 5-hour limit on top of that, which is even more annoying. With Google I barely notice the limits at all — the only one is Opus 4.6 (not sure why it has one), and I only use it for double-checking sometimes. The biggest problem is that the Pro model hasn’t been updated, and Flash just doesn’t produce solutions of the same quality as Sol. But it is matter of time...

ZeroGravitas 16d ago
I got my account blocked for using antigravity with pi, has that policy changed?

e28eta 16d ago

As someone on a google workspace plan, where the monthly price went up to include AI features, I’m disappointed that google won’t let me sign up for antigravity development plans with my workspace google ID. To the best of my knowledge, as of last week, the recommendation is to sign up with a different, personal google id. It feels like such a stereotypical big corp misstep, but based on the reputation that google’s AI products have, I guess I’m not _that_ heartbroken. It’s mostly frustration that they forced the price increase on everyone, and I’m definitely not receiving the benefit.

0xEnsp1re 16d ago

their harness is so bad, just release a new pro model and improve agy harness