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In the future, it might be extremely hard to find a camera which records exactly what is in front of it :D
by IvanK_net 1mo ago
In the future, it might be extremely hard to find a camera which records exactly what is in front of it :D
- BlackRabbit1 1mo agoA lot of smartphones support raw format. It's fascinating to see how much post-processing gets done.
- PlunderBunny 1mo agoThere was a post on HN a few months ago showing the stages of post-processing on a photo of a Christmas tree in a room - the original photo was unrecognisable. I would find the link, but I’m balancing my phone on my knee while trying to eat dinner and pretend I’m not playing with my phone while eating dinner…
- yoavm 1mo agoIt's this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46415225 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46415225
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- Retr0id 1mo agoOften the "RAW" output is still DSP'd, just less (e.g. only debayering + noise reduction).
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- Alexander-Barth 1mo agoI am wondering if the AI enhancement should be opt-in rather than the default and saving the original as well. Even if you want AI enhancement, future models are likely to be better.
- Zealotux 1mo agoWith the rise of AI-generated content I would actually love a camera with no post-processing by default and a watermarking system that proves the picture is authentic. I can see Apple going that way eventually.
- hutattedonmyarm 1mo agoEh, there are plenty of third party camera apps which do that (See: Halide and their Prozess Zero). I doubt a built-in one will go that way.
- swiftcoder 1mo agoWell, they do their best, they don't do any userspace post-processing. They can't really help whatever the firmware in the camera and/or the camera driver are already doing.
- Gigachad 1mo agoIt's not really possible to have zero processing of an image. At some point you have to interpret the sensor data and turn it in to a JPEG. The line people decide an image is "processed" is pretty subjective though. It's somewhere between the camera deciding what the white balance / exposure is, and AI replacing the sun with a moon.
- austinthetaco 1mo agoraw images exist
- Gigachad 1mo agoYou can't see a raw image though. Any time you look at an image, decisions had to be made about how to interpret that raw image.
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- st_goliath 1mo agoThe year is 2036, when dialed up to maximum space saving, the latest generation of smart phones now turn camera pictures to a textual description and later when you want to view them, re-generate them on the fly using a text2image model. Not that "saving space" really means something, the phones refuse to unlock if they don't have an internet connection and store all your data on multiple cloud servers anyway (one for each five eye country).
- inigyou 1mo agoIt's already 14 eyes, and it'll be 195 eyes by then
- xnickb 1mo ago194. That one country will not be invited.
- bflesch 1mo agoIt's one Monarch, but many eyes. All information flows to the Crown.
- aljgz 1mo agoThat one monarch is not a person or organization of people. It's an aggregation of all the loosely connected ones, competing on some things, coordinated on others, but you, the end user are never the beneficiary. That, my old school human friend, is the one commandment no one challenges. With all those players locked into a Nash equilibrium, no one can do anything about this, while all humans complain that things are not the way they should be.
- whycome 1mo agoIt’s a legit possibility that “FaceTime” in the future will be super low bandwidth because the phones on each end do local animations of a deepfaked/skinned model to match live capture rather than transmit high resolution video.
- Gigachad 1mo agoThis is actually how FaceTime works on the Apple Vision Pro. Though that’s because your face is covered by a giant headset. We can already compress video massively, enough to video call on crappy mobile connections without much care. I can’t imagine network connections would get worse in the future so it wouldn’t seem like there would be a need to compress further.
- whycome 1mo agoNASAs Deep Space Network? Making calls from space mean you don’t have the bandwidth (tho latency also killer)
- Markoff 1mo agopretty sure even Xiaomi can do it, just disable stupid AI Camera and/or Super Moon, one of the first things I disable in camera on all Xiaomi phones (wife and me both have Xiaomi 13t and 13 respectively), don't forget also to disable Beautify (switch to Original) for selfie camera and don't remember what is the default selfie mirroring setting, this is very common issue with all brands they are not displaying real sides in selfie photos (real right hand becomes in photo left hand)