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It is pretty funny to see the shoe on the other foot, since it's usually software engineers with unearned arrogance about other fields.
by Blackthorn 1mo ago
It is pretty funny to see the shoe on the other foot, since it's usually software engineers with unearned arrogance about other fields.
- ryan_n 1mo agoWhat fields do you see devs think they know about? I’ve never personally seen this with other devs I work with but obviously small sample size…
- mathisfun123 1mo agofind any econ related post on hn et voila
- luke5441 1mo agoI don't think it is much of a problem that dabblers get into Internet arguments about things they are not experts in. After all the easiest way to get a correct answer/learn something is to say something wrong. Of course this should be differentiated from a professional setting. And under no circumstances should we put that stuff into the knowledge bases we base our "AI" on without making sure it takes into account the context.
- hparadiz 1mo agoThere have always been people with no tech experience building startups generating spaghetti code. It's just that now it looks a lot more polished.
- Jensson 1mo ago> It's just that now it looks a lot more polished. Yes, and that is the problem. It used to be if a product looked polished it was fairly polished engineering wise as well if we compare to todays AI slop. You can see that on steam, before AI slop games a game that looked polished mostly worked. But today you can get a game that looks like they put in a lot of effort, but its all AI slop and everything is flaky and broken, I've had way more such experiences the last few months than before that. A human coder that was capable of coding a complex game typically also was good enough and tested things to make most things work. There were bugs etc, but at least buttons did things.
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- afavour 1mo agoIn my experience, product. There’s a pervasive view that product is easy, that anyone working in it is a dunderhead who gets in the way of engineers doing the really worthwhile work. In reality, it would just mean they rewrite the software five times and have zero customers. Oh, design too. I’ve met many engineers who simply don’t see any value in design.
- ekholm_e 1mo agoThis. I'm a former teacher. I left to get a PhD in educational psychology, and now I'm a data scientist for a large school division. The number of ed tech companies I interact with who clearly have little grasp of research-based best practices in education is staggering. But they can all build slick-looking websites and dashboards.
- Sammi 1mo agoThe software is not the product. You can't get a software person to understand this unless they learn the domain they are working in properly.
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- tripzilch 1mo agoJust to flip this around and widen your view, but not everybody's idea of "worthwhile work" is measured by how many customers they have. Note I can make this claim without calling anyone "arrogant", a "dunderhead" or even go as far as to imply they operate outside of "reality".
- Blackthorn 1mo agoLiterally everything. Just pick a topic and you'll see SWEs on Hacker News prognosticating about it as if they knew everything while knowing nothing but the surface.
- lenkite 1mo agoInternet discussion != real-world professional fakery
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- emp17344 1mo agoIf HN is any indication, many devs have hilariously naive beliefs regarding economics and philosophy and will absolutely refuse to engage with actual arguments or experts within those fields.
- rolymath 1mo agoDevs like to pretend they know everything about everything. Start a discussion about any topic, look at how many nerds will tell you that you are wrong.