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ryan_n
7d ago
What I meant more is that the dataset they scrape is openly available for download by anyone, unlike any of the frontier labs. Not that they don’t scrape copyrighted content. Still sketch, but at least they don’t call themselves “OpenLAION”
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ryan_n
8d ago
Why? Because you disagree with them? Would you rather it be an echo chamber?
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ryan_n
8d ago
LAION and Common Crawl both scraped copyrighted images. From what I can tell (I'm not an expert in this domain at all), the main difference between those two and frontier labs is in how they stored and used the data. CC and LAION seem
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ryan_n
8d ago
You're right, it was an over simplification. I think public exchange of data is great for innovation and research (Common Crawl/LAION). But I still think scraping proprietary data without consent or attribution is generally bad (a
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8d ago
And if they decide they are in charge of determining who gets this cancer cure and who doesn’t? Still good? Maybe it is, idk, you may be right. But I think it’s something people should care about.
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ryan_n
8d ago
If they scraped internet data in the same way as current day frontier labs do, then I feel the same exact way about them. Why would I feel any different if that is the case?
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8d ago
The [lack of] integrity of OpenAI (and any other frontier lab) should already be pretty solidified. Among other horrible things, these companies stole millions of IPs and no one seems to care anymore. Regardless of what you think of the pro
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9d ago
I think people very much should care about who ends up owning these solutions. The person or entity that controls things like that just has more power, which isn’t necessarily a good thing
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9d ago
What the op was pointing out is that guys like Altman and Dario are repeatedly saying they’re going to cure xyz diseases and solve xyz huge global problems. Maybe their companies will eventually do these things, but haven’t yet. I don’t hav
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11d ago
This isn’t really true for many programming tasks anymore. And as the saying goes, “this is the worse they will ever be”.
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ryan_n
11d ago
Kinda depressing cus that thing used to be coding (or mastery of), which seems to be dying/being replaced by gen ai.
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ryan_n
12d ago
Do you actually think a person using an llm is going to start curing diseases and solve the obesity epidemic (in America) in lieu of creating fun personal software projects?? Or as another commenter said solve climate change? Surely you don
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13d ago
Wow thank you this was actually very helpful for me in understanding why I’m feeling so demotivated by ai. Gaining knowledge, even if not immediately useful, to become a better overall developer was a huge part of why I enjoyed spending so
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13d ago
What is a "real problem" to you?
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13d ago
That's fair, I guess I just enjoy the craft of building stuff rather than the outcome/product itself. Which I know I can still do, but for some reason just doesn't feel the same now. Hard to explain I guess.
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13d ago
You can play PvP in those games. Not really the same with developing software. In fact, not using ai would probably make you lose if there was some “software PvP” mode or development.
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13d ago
For some reason, I feel much less excited about creating things myself just knowing that ai can do it in 1/10th of the time. Even if I know it wouldn’t turn into a business or make me money. I don’t know why that is, but I was much mor
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14d ago
Don’t worry I’m sure it’ll be in the training data soon enough…
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17d ago
Genuinely so confused about your last sentence, please explain…
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17d ago
Why do you think people that disagree with your opinion are gatekeepers? You can still use it if you want, no one’s gate keeping anything lol.
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26d ago
Quite possibly the worst take I’ve ever read on hacker news. “Things are generally bad now so the entire country should roll over and get fucked.” What are you even thinking dude? Maybe take a walk outside or something..
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28d ago
Would love to see a source for this, but I'm assuming you don't have one and are just spreading FUD due to your political beliefs... Closest thing I could find was a little over 15,000 people in Europe who got myocarditis (also in
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28d ago
> The older I get the more I realize ambition and "being ambitious" is a completely misplaced way to orient your life. > Make decisions based on what you're passionate about, based on what will bring and keep meaningful
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28d ago
That was not my experience pre LLM's working with other software devs. I acknowledge that not everyone that writes software cares, but the majority of people I worked with pre-LLM did actually care that the software they wrote was bug
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28d ago
> So you trusted 22-year-old coffee junkies copying and pasting from stack overflow 10 years ago Absolutely yes... The difference between those "22 year old coffee junkies" and some dude prompting an LLM is that the 22 year old
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1mo ago
Man everyone says every article/blog post that is on HN is written by an LLM. Almost every single post.. I actually didn't get strong AI vibes from this one but maybe I just am bad at recognizing. Sure it's a bit cringy but I
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1mo ago
The dude had claude copy a repo bug for bug. Where is the "taste" and "creativity" in that? > I fully support open-source, but I support way more the creativity and idea from individuals that can generate something ne
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1mo ago
That makes sense, great answer thank you.
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1mo ago
> But also, there still is a ton of programming that is fundamentally difficult. That's not going anywhere either. And LLMs are useful there too, but they're currently nowhere near replacing the expertise needed to do novel and
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1mo ago
You just discovered their business model congrats.
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