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Someone who until yesterday did not seem bothered by his technology being possibly used to bomb elementary girls school in another country seems to suddenly car
by m3h 2mo ago
Someone who until yesterday did not seem bothered by his technology being possibly used to bomb elementary girls school in another country seems to suddenly care about the repression of citizens in yet another country.
No, we don't buy your virtue signaling. And we certainly don't need your better-than-thou opinions on this year's "nightmare scenarios".
- Cookingboy 2mo agoYeah Dario is just flat out disgusting in term of how shamelessly hypocritical he is. Do people actually believe that he gives a shit about the well being of the Chinese people? If the U.S. starts a war with China start bombing Chinese cities Dario would absolutely jump onboard supporting it. He'd probably make Claude to add DeepSeek and Moonshot HQ to the targeting list lmao. He is super pro-Israel as well, and never once has he brought up the risk of the Israeli government using AI to control and repress people in other countries. He is also 100% onboard with working with Palantir, who has the explicit goal of using AI for population control and repression and building out a surveillance state. Meanwhile the world's most repressive government is North Korea, and obviously they don't even need AI to achieve that. If you talk to people in China they'd laugh their ass off at Dario's notion that somehow they are all getting oppressed by DeepSeek or Kimi.
- kyllo 2mo ago[flagged]
- alex1138 2mo agoPlease don't just copy paste existing comments
- dan_gee 2mo agoI thought the comment was a positive contribution.
- senordevnyc 2mo agoWhatever else it might be, it’s not positive.
- alex1138 2mo agoI just mean they verbatim copied it from another comment they wrote in this thread But it's quite possible I'm being too anal
- dan_gee 2mo agoI didn't see that other comment and I appreciated the presence of the comment in question.
- gr_norm 2mo agoThe emptiness of AI companies' waxing poetic about the future of humankind is laid bare by simply looking at what they actually do, and who they do business with. Actions speak louder than words, and they've driven the worth of their words into the dirt many times over.
- lenerdenator 2mo ago> Meanwhile the world's most repressive government is North Korea, and obviously they don't even need AI to achieve that. The country that exists solely because of China? That North Korea? I mean I get your point, all of these guys are elitist authoritarians who will do anything for a buck, but I wouldn't bring up the DPRK in this discussion.
- jfrbfbreudh 2mo agoThe country that exists because it has nuclear capabilities.
- lenerdenator 2mo agoNo, it exists because 1) China shoved back UN forces from the Yalu and 2) their allies, now in charge of everything north of the 38th parallel, aimed a bunch of artillery at Seoul in case there was ever a thought of the ROK and its allies reunifying the country through force, or any other mechanism the Kim family didn't approve of. The nuclear part is really just gilding the lily. Of course, China and Russia have helped North Korea circumvent the sanctions that were supposed to punish them for their nuclear program, but it ultimately all goes back to the Chinese support of Kim Il-Sung during the Korean War.
- jfrbfbreudh 2mo agoThe US exists solely because of France.
- lenerdenator 2mo agoAs an American, I blame most of the world's issues on the French and the British, so this tracks.
- thinkingtoilet 2mo agoI like how he cited the current Trump administration in section about stifling decent.
- monk_grilla 2mo ago> Someone who until yesterday did not seem bothered by his technology being possibly used to bomb elementary girls school in another country... I might have missed something but wasn't the big story that Dario refused the Department of War's demand to use Anthropic's models for such purposes?
- BeetleB 2mo agoNo. He refused the use against US citizens domestically. He had already agreed for military use against others - this is well reported.
- mrandish 2mo agoAnthropic's ToS restricts the DoW from using their models for 1. Fully autonomous weapons systems, and 2. Mass domestic surveillance. There is no carve-out regarding who the autonomous weapons systems would be used against.
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- tannertech 2mo agoWhat does "Fully autonomous" mean? If someone presses a single button to authorize an autonomous drone to enter a theatre and conduct autonomous strikes for 4 hours without any further approval is it truely "fully autonomous?"
- iamflimflam1 2mo agoYes. A munition that hangs around waiting for targets and decides whether it should attack without checking with a human. That’s a fully autonomous weapon.
- Geof25 2mo agoNo. The moment there is a human involved, it is obviously not fully autonomous
- redwood 2mo agoYou act as if anyone was happy to hit an elementary school. I'm sure everyone involved feels it was a terrible tragedy
- davkan 2mo agoYou give too much credit. Many think of it as an acceptable cost of waging war, not something to waste regret on. Some few think of it as a positive (they chant death to America over there).
- redwood 2mo agoI've never heard anyone say it was a positive. While you're absolutely right that many would say that it was a casualty of war and that we have to expect some amount of mistakes to be made that does not mean there is not regret.
- davkan 2mo agoMany of my conservative acquaintances find the death of those kids to be regrettable in the way you come back to find your car over the line regret your parking job. Certainly they do not feel the tragedy nor any responsibility. The some few i mentioned who see it as a positive are the ones who say nuke Iran, the only good Iranian is a dead Iranian etc. They might not come out and say I’m glad those schoolchildren are dead because they’ll know they’ll get pilloried. But make no mistake in what they believe.
- redwood 2mo agoI find this really hard to believe. People are sick of the Islamic Republic regime, not the person on the street. If anyone implies the two are the same thing then they're being intellectually lazy but I bet if you pressed you'd still find them capable of nuance. People do have some humanity even if little patience for a terror exporting regime
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- srj 2mo agoThe bombing of the school was horrible, but it was a mistake. I could see essentially the opposite argument: Anthropic should be more involved as to prevent mistakes in the future with better technology. Imagine Claude asking the decision makers at CENTCOM "this looks like a school, are you sure you want this added as a target?"
- igleria 2mo agoa mistake that might be caused by the fact no one cares. an avoidable mistake.
- geraneum 2mo agoYou’re absolutely right to push back. It was indeed a school. I’ll save <schoo_name> in my memory for the future.
- DiogenesKynikos 2mo agoYou don't get to start a completely unprovoked and illegal war of aggression, bomb tons of targets with little care, kill 100 schoolchildren, and then say, "But it was a mistake."
- joha4270 2mo agoHowever terrible it is, it is still a mistake unless you're accusing them of doing it deliberately. And however much you can say about the current US Administration, I don't think they're prioritizing bombing civilians over military targets.
- DiogenesKynikos 2mo agoIt's a mistake in the sense that if you go and rob a bank while shooting wildly, you only hit the customers "by mistake." That's not an excuse. The US is bombing both military and civilian targets, by the way. Trump has been very open about this with his talk about "power-plant day." He considers attacking civilian targets to be a legitimate way of pressuring Iran to surrender.
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- Footnote7341 2mo agoThe elementary school example is a clear sign of bad faith. Neither Iran or the USA have intentionally blown up any school children.
- blitzar 2mo agoThey waited till the parents were searching the rubble for their children before the "double tap" strike.
- hoihoi 2mo ago[dead]