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Map of the world's great castles and fortresses
- pastemato 2mo agoImmediately curious about the concentration of castles on the Ghanaian coast. Wonder what that's about.
- Svip 2mo agoDuring the height of the Triangle Trade, Europeans built a lot of forts to protect their interests along the Gold and Ivory Coasts; why these forts are considered castles by this site is beyond me (just for clarification: a castle is a fortified private residence). Edit: I now realise that the site specifically says "Map of the world's great castles & fortresses", so I guess the site considers them fortresses, not castles. I retract my snark.
- guyzero 2mo agoThe title of the page is "Map of the world's great castles & fortresses". So those are latter.
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- jameshart 2mo agoThere is no taxonomy of these things you could make that will not cause some eyebrow raising choices. It counts Clarence House in London in its top 100 as a world famous ‘palace’ - it’s a Georgian townhouse. Age of sail trading post forts seem a relatively uncontroversial inclusion in comparison.
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- pizzathyme 2mo agoWe just stayed in Dalhousie Castle, the oldest in Scotland. Very beautiful and well maintained, with lots of spooky history. If you want to leave a legacy, build something out of stone.
- philipwhiuk 2mo agoI mean no, it's not. Castle Sween was built in the 11th century (and might still not be the oldest). Dalhousie Castle was built in 1247 and the oldest bit of the surviving castle is from the 15th century. Most of it is from the 17th century. The roof is post-2004. The actual lesson is, if you want to leave a legacy, hope someone rebuilds it when it falls apart after you're gone.
- joe463369 2mo agoThere's no need to correct. They had a lovely holiday at what they thought was the oldest castle in Scotland. Leave them to it instead of jumping in with 'actually, I've identified at least three castles older, and while we can't be certain which is the oldest fort in Scotland, we can be confident that it wasn't the one you thought you had a nice time at'
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- pizzathyme 2mo agoI'll have to look these up! The staff definitely strongly proclaim that Dalhousie is the oldest. I wonder why they omit these
- guyzero 2mo agoInteresting that in Canada Rideau Hall counts, but Casa Loma does not.
- pluc 2mo agoor Chateau Frontenac in Quebec? What's the criteria for being a castle? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_Frontenac https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_Frontenac
- weezing 2mo agoThey use a crappy model I guess. This reeks AI.
- etimberg 2mo agoI see Casa Loma in there now, but if that counts I'd expect something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boldt_Castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boldt_Castle to also count
- runxel 2mo agoVery cool project, but obviously missing (too) many great castles. I'm not sure if that way of measuring popularity is really well done.
- lujz 2mo agoMissing a lot, at least three around my home town.
- kinow 2mo agoI went to a castle in Dunedin, New Zealand, but NZ seems to be castle-less: Larnach Castle, https://www.larnachcastle.co.nz/ https://www.larnachcastle.co.nz/. Brazil also has a few castles, although not sure if they are classified differently -- https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_castelos_no_Brasil https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_castelos_no_Brasil
- Isamu 2mo agoThe page does give a pointer to Wikidata, I for one would love to see your example included.
- detritus 2mo agoSee, I'd class those as something like 'follies' or Whimsy, as they don't appear to be actual fortifications, rather forms of affectation. That said, I'm not sure what definition or list this site uses - as others have already pointed out, there are loads of castle missing I can tell, just from a few that I've visited across Italy.
- mr_toad 2mo agoNew Zealand was colonised long after castles had become obsolete. There are a few remains of WWII coastal fortifications here and there, but they’re now obsolete too. The Māori built thousands of hilltop fortifications with wooden palisades (Pā), but lacking metal tools they didn’t build with stone.
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- samfar90 2mo agoClicking on full story doesn't do anything. It closes the popup (mobile android)
- losteric 2mo agoit's part of a webring of vibecoded slopsites
- The_Blade 2mo agoyes, webrings! time for a comeback. i just found an AI agent trained on AOL chat room materials out in the wild, way to go Bending Spoons why do all the vibecoded slopsites have the same design? i feel icky when i visit one like eternal sunshine of the spotless vibe
- 1970-01-01 2mo agoWhy nothing in North America but forts? There are lots of ancient structures that should be considered. Ex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montezuma_Castle_National_Monument https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montezuma_Castle_National_Monu...
- monomers 2mo agoThere's at least a couple on the map, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapultepec_Castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapultepec_Castle That one you linked definitely merits inclsion, tho. Had never heard of it. Thanks. Edit: Or maybe not: apparently it's not considered a castle, despite the name.
- 1970-01-01 2mo agoCastle means fortified stone building then? What are you considering? Wikipedia has many more. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_castles_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_castles_in_the_United_...
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- sharkjacobs 2mo ago> # Etymology > Neither part of the monument's name is correct. ... was not a "castle" in the traditional sense, but instead may have functioned more like a "prehistoric high rise apartment complex".[8] My understanding was always that aside from vanity castles like Craigdarroch (https://thecastle.ca https://thecastle.ca) there aren't castles in North America because they're only practical in a pre-cannon world
- bluGill 2mo agoCastles are practical against cannons but only if built with thicker walls than typical.
- onion2k 2mo agoInvading Australia is looking pretty tempting right now.
- a3w 2mo agoInvading Australia in 1500s is looking pretty tempting, you mean.
- jollyllama 2mo agoNeeds some of the ones referenced here (including the Dupont Castle, the work of the site's author, who lasted provided a work update in '22): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27929729 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27929729 See also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44948352 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44948352
- hurghada 2mo agoHungary has more than a lot missing https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyarorsz%C3%A1gi_v%C3%A1rak_list%C3%A1ja https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyarorsz%C3%A1gi_v%C3%A1rak_...
- hggh 2mo agoWrong title. Wrong not even by two orders of magnitude.
- IncreasePosts 2mo agoThere are only 20 castles in the world?
- modeless 2mo agoIs Fort Ross really "Renowned" as listed? I've never heard of it and honestly it doesn't look very interesting. I'd rather visit Fort Knox which is a real fortification currently in use, world famous, and not listed here.
- the111 2mo agoIt’s a Russia hoax.
- clickety_clack 2mo agoThis is off by many degrees of magnitude for Ireland at least: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1nkvqd7/oc_distribution_of_prehistoric_forts_in_ireland/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1nkvqd7/oc...
- arethuza 2mo agoSame for Scotland - there are 3 castles within 2 km of where I live, not including a couple of really old ruined hill-forts... which I don't think is an unusual density of these things for this part of the world. Edit: And of course there is also the huge castle 13km away across the sea sitting on its volcanic plug and very visible from here.
- dbspin 2mo agoSeems like your map lists pre-historic ring forts, not castles? I'm not sure what the 'official' definition of a castle is, but I personally wouldn't consider a crannóg or something like Dún Aonghasa a castle. Nor would I consider a stand alone tower house a castle, although they might (along with gate lodges and great houses), sometimes be colloquially referred to as castles. Surely a castle is a fortified building, specific to the middle ages. Wikipedia agrees - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle Which would put the number of Anglo-Norman castles in Ireland much lower, probably something around 100.
- bluGill 2mo agoI like the definition where castle is a fortress where a Nobel lives. Fort is where an army lives but no Nobel leader. Palace is where a Nobel lives but it isn't expected to withstand a siege
- RugnirViking 2mo ago*Noble. Alfred Nobel invented stable explosives and started a Norwegian prize for achievement in science. Nobles, however, were high ranked members of the feudal hierarchy, often passing their position on to their children.
- mxfh 2mo agoIf you submit some map, at least don't have the title contradict the content description: "the 2,435 most significant landmarks worldwide, ordered by a fame ranking that blends Wikipedia coverage with real readership." or someone fix the title here please to what on the app right now: "Map of the world's great castles & fortresses" whatever that means. Germany's Saxony alone has 700+ fortications with about 100 being touristically interesting. In the map I count like 9.
- deepvibrations 2mo agoYeah, actually a very cool idea. Hopefully somebody takes it and makes a greatly improved version, as execution is lacking here!
- Romario77 2mo agonot really castles - it includes palaces for examples and chateaus.
- bootlooped 2mo agoI find the word "castle" can be a little vague, like with Neuschwanstein Castle, which is really more of a palace. I don't think it's worth battling too much about what is or isn't a castle. I don't think you could come up with one set of castles in the world that satisfies everybody.
- jameshart 2mo agoNeuschwanstein was completed in 1886. Undeniably a very archetypal castle. So much so that of course it was the basis for Disney's Sleeping Beauty castle, which opened at Disneyland in Anaheim in 1955 - at which time the castle it took its inspiration from was not even 70 years old. Now Disney's Sleeping Beauty castle is itself over 70 years old, making it arguably just as much a historical 'castle' as Neuschwanstein.
- carra 2mo agoI would take it as just rounding 2,435 -> 2,400. No big deal.
- holoduke 2mo agoThere are many castles near my parents house in france. I don't see any of them? AI generated?
- mangogogo 2mo agothinking the same here. combining the inaccurate data with the suspicious-looking sheen to the UI makes me think it was made with an LLM.
- deton3991 2mo agoWhat's really neat about this isn't just the visualization, but that they’ve packaged the whole dataset as open GeoJSON/CSV mirrored on Hugging Face and GitHub—plus an MCP endpoint for AI agents.
- dyauspitr 2mo agoIs a palace a castle? If so then there are a huge number missing in India.
- shehjar 2mo agohttps://fortmapper.in/ https://fortmapper.in/
- dolmen 2mo agoChâteau de Saint-Cloud, near Paris, reported as "renowned ruin" ??? What a joke! Only the gardens remain. Even more ridiculous : Bastille also reported as "renowned ruin". Nothing remains. All stones have disappeared centuries ago.
- allturtles 2mo agoThis dataset is bad. The North Carolina state capitol is a castle?
- the__alchemist 2mo agoSame reaction! I just drove by it... taking a careful note after seeing it in the article. It does appear a bit keep-like, but that's a stretch. Maybe if the surrounding roads were replaced with walls/battlements/ramparts and such?
- hbcdbff 2mo agoSlop
- andsoitis 2mo agoAustralia doesn’t have a single castle!
- drstewart 2mo agoTangential, but many of these aren't what people traditionally would think of as castles. Is there any consensus on what the "castliest of castles" is? Presumably something in the UK or Ireland or thereabouts considering that's where the popular media conception of them comes from.
- shevy-java 2mo agoI mean, the reason why these dominate in Europe is because largely of the medieval era and a bit before that. Once gunpowder became more widely used, castles became increasingly obsolete. Nowadays they have only touristic value really or movie values, such as the castle in the movie Monty Python and the holy grail. Other than that they are just stone ruins really, some more polished than others. They have no real worth nowadays other than wonder how many resources went into building them. Also, as others pointed out, the map is missing many castles. I also doubt the spread over China, the map only says about 7 castles in whole China? So that seems totally wrong. The definition for a castle must be incorrect, because Japan has attributed many more and that is simply objectively incorrect. Is the chinese palace classified as a castle? If not, why not? If yes then why not other palaces in China? The map is really not very good here. It should begin by a good definition of what is meant with a castle.
- relevant_stats 2mo agoThis is not a "map of castles". I checked my local area, and it omits interesting castles, instead including palaces, landmarks and world war era fortresses. Shameful submission.
- sam_lowry_ 2mo agoWhere is the castle of James Damore?
- Brendinooo 2mo agoThe local "castle" on the map is Fort Duquesne, which is listed as "ruins" but in fact has no ruins to visit. It says "The site of both forts is now occupied by Point State Park, where the outlines of the two forts have been laid in granite slabs" - which is true, but...there are no ruins here! If forts count as castles, at least do Fort Pitt, which has the blockhouse functional. Anyways - this is a fun project and it should continue!
- mr_toad 2mo agoIt also lists the Bastille, which was completely demolished and is now a public square.
- BasieP2 2mo agoReally luke it, but on mobile (firefox) the links (to wikipedia etc) just don't work..
- BasieP2 2mo agoLove it.. But the links don't work. (firefox mobile)
- nmstoker 2mo agoYes, same for me on Firefox mobile and Chrome mobile (both latest versions on Android)
- weezing 2mo agoHeavily lacking at least in Poland. Reeks clanker powered. I miss the times where actual hobbyists were doing stuff.
- yabones 2mo agoNot sure if they count, but the site appears to be missing loads of British star-forts built around the great lakes, st. lawrence, and eastern Canada! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citadel_Hill_(Fort_George) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citadel_Hill_(Fort_George) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Island_(Nova_Scotia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Island_(Nova_Scotia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citadelle_of_Quebec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citadelle_of_Quebec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Fort_Erie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Fort_Erie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Anne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Anne They built these things _everywhere_, probably a good part of what bankrupted the British Empire! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Charlotte_(Nassau) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Charlotte_(Nassau) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Wales_Fort https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Wales_Fort
- mr_toad 2mo agoIt’s missing the extensive Napoleonic-era Western Fortifications on the opposite side of Dover from the much more famous Dover Castle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Western_Heights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Western_Heights But to be fair they’re much less well known, and quite well concealed, and are partly on private land, with big fences, cameras and scary warning signs. Tourists don’t seem to be much interested in post-medieval fortifications.
- yabones 2mo agoIt's probably somewhat regional, as the ones in Canada seem to have pretty good tourism interest, especially when they're right inside a city like Quebec and Halifax. But we're also very starved for true "Medieval Castles" like Europe or east Asia, so we take what we can get!
- NicuCalcea 2mo agoI imagine they only downloaded whatever was tagged as "castle" in wikidata. Compare these two: Bran Castle: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q390275 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q390275 Citadel Hill: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q321867 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q321867
- sebnukem2 2mo agoThe ones in the area where I used to live are all missing.
- lifeisstillgood 2mo agoThe 10 most famous castles in the world Palace of Versailles France Forbidden City People's Republic of China Neuschwanstein Castle Germany Buckingham Palace England Alhambra Spain Tower of London England Windsor Castle England Kremlin Russia Red Fort India Topkapı Palace Turkey So I could name recognise the top ten, and yeah I won’t argue too hard with the list, just apart from Neuschwanstein - but the second I saw it I realised I did not know the name but “Bavarian fairy castle” clearly deserves its ranking
- prmph 2mo agoNice project, but what is "hidden" gem about Elmina castle in Ghana? If Cape Coast Castle is described as "world renowned", then Elmina should be as well. I live in Ghana their popularity is almost evenly matched. Also Elmina castle is the oldest and largest European building in existence in sub-Saharan Africa. One more thing, it is kind of hard to click on specific dots when they are so clustered together. I had to zoom in a lot to see and be able to click on some of the castles I knew were there.
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- PhilipRoman 2mo agoProbably something on your end, it is using a normal letsencrypt cert
- SubiculumCode 2mo agoHuh .. strange. I was behind my university's firewall
- Bedon292 2mo agoCool idea, horrible dataset. Its limited to things in Wikidata rather than using OSM, and it must have an article on Wikipedia in English to count so I am sure it is missing just based on that. And somehow it misses many castles (and other categories it includes) which do meet those requirements. There is no definition of what they use to categorize anything either. And it clearly isn't applied consistently. There is a Château category and yet many things with Château in their name are tagged as castles.
- mr_toad 2mo agoIn France castles are all called Châteaux.
- ButlerianJihad 2mo agoWhat a coincidence! In France, all hats are called chapeaux!
- ChrisGreenHeur 2mo agoWhat is the point of the x at the end?
- margalabargala 2mo agoMakes things more difficult for foreigners. The French consider this a feature.
- makeusgreat 2mo agoHearst Castle Missing. Please add it, it’s probably the most famous castle in California.
- the111 2mo agoUS is clearly underrepresented, if forts counts as castles, as it seams to do, why isn’t Fort Knox there? Probably the most defended fort in the country.
- Yhippa 2mo agoClearly vibe-coded. Cool idea though. I can see what was leveraged from the Wikipedia data set. Side question: why does Claude prefer dark backgrounds with low-contrast text?
- mrjay42 2mo agoNice project :3 There's a MASSIVE amount of castles missing Just for France, the castle visible on the map -> this is not even 5% Depending on the count it goes from 20000 castles to 45000 (just for France!)
- ChrisGreenHeur 2mo agoFor Sweden it’s the opposite problem. We don’t have many castles, most of the ones labeled are old monasteries or I guess you would say small palaces.
- hvb2 2mo agoYou have to start somewhere? Google maps didn't start with a full dataset either...
- philipwhiuk 2mo agoMissing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanbrugh_Castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanbrugh_Castle
- suzzer99 2mo agoI had to look up Madagascar's castle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rova_of_Antananarivo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rova_of_Antananarivo The Rova of Antananarivo /ˈruːvə/ (Malagasy: Rovan'i Manjakamiadana [ˈruvᵊn manˌdzakəmiˈadə̥nᵊ]) is a royal palace complex (rova) in Madagascar that was the home of the sovereigns of the Kingdom of Imerina in the 17th and 18th centuries, as well as of the rulers of the Kingdom of Madagascar in the 19th century. Located in the central highland city of Antananarivo, the Rova occupies the highest point on Analamanga, formerly the highest of Antananarivo's many hills.
- meerita 2mo agoWould be amazing to see which one of these are on sale.
- hermitcrab 2mo agoCastles come up for sale fairly regularly in the UK. They are (generally) relatively inexpensive to buy, but ruinously expensive to renovate and maintain.
- notorandit 2mo agoItaly, like Germany, Austria and maybe a few more European countries host more than 5,000 "castles".
- Flightmussy 2mo agoI have lived in Austria before. I have been to some of them in Austria and South Tyrol. I think most of the castles should be visible on the map although not all are added yet. Will fix that.
- CrzyLngPwd 2mo agoSince forts are included in the USA, there are loads of Napoleonic forts missing in the UK. Plymouth is surrounded by them.
- hermitcrab 2mo agoThey have also completely omitted the entire chain of 'Palmerston's folly' Forts built around Portsmouth harbour. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmerston_Forts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmerston_Forts
- r721 2mo agoComment from dev in previous submission: >This project is in early stages and the information is brought by wikipedia. The goal of this project is to make castle viewing a bit more fun. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48861309 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48861309
- Flightmussy 2mo agoHi that is me! Now I guess I have to fix the project and make it proper.
- frm88 2mo agoIf you do so, please include Esslingen castle (Germany). It's still standing and they have a lovely (and famous with Americans) Christmas market there.https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esslinger_Burg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esslinger_Burg I love this project, like you I'm a big castle fan and tourist.
- insane_dreamer 2mo agoGreat project! Kudos to the designer. Might need additional datasets though -- this one is lacking. only ~10 fortresses in France? LOL The fortress / castle distinction is quite difficult and perhaps not useful? This map classifies the Crac (Krak) des Chevaliers[0], in modern-day Syria, as a "castle" but I would argue it's really a "fortress" (and in fact, one of the best preserved ancient fortresses in the world). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krak_des_Chevaliers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krak_des_Chevaliers
- tagami 2mo agoMy first dotcom began by listing German castles for sale after the wall fell. https://web.archive.org/web/19970102101502/http://www.re.com/~ted/castle.html https://web.archive.org/web/19970102101502/http://www.re.com...
- geff82 2mo agoAnd if I ever make an exit, the money will buy me a Germany castle! I want to be a good guardian of one.
- Aardwolf 2mo agoThat's less than I expected for worldwide Apparently Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, etc... were not really into castles, while Japan was?
- superhuzza 2mo agoIt's not very comprehensive at all, the regions I know well in France are missing almost all of the actual castles. The site lists 180ish castles in France, when it's estimated there are 45,000 castles + chateaus in reality. Of course this depends on your exact definition of castle. I wonder if it's only scraping english language Wikipedia articles?
- hermitcrab 2mo agoI suspect the Mongols destroyed a lot of Asian castles and city fortifications. They never made it to Japan.
- geff82 2mo agoInteresting, still I miss most castles around me.
- pimlottc 2mo agoIs this anything more substantial than a weekend-coded public data scrape?
- relevant_stats 2mo agoIt's worse than that, the underlying data is more than questionable.
- fillskills 2mo agoExcellent usecase of map and history. Request to add a year range selector or slider
- ipunchghosts 2mo agoThis is missing castles. There are several in and near lerici Italy not listed
- jcfariadias 2mo agoPalácio da Bolsa in Porto is not, at all, a castle. It was built in the XIX century as the stock market and never served defensive purposes as castles would. Not to speak about the sheer amount of misses in Portugal. This is off by a lot!
- busymom0 2mo agoNone in Ausralia?
- decimalenough 2mo agoNope, unless you count things like this: https://www.kryalcastle.com.au/ https://www.kryalcastle.com.au/ Although there are plenty of old coastal fortifications, which don't appear to count even though things like Fort Siloso in Singapore (a WW2 vintage concrete bunker) apparently do.
- comrade1234 2mo agoSeems like it's missing a lot for Switzerland.
- pphysch 2mo agoMeta commentary: this is clearly a vibe-coded frontend to a low quality "dataset" with substantial omissions. The real value and work would be someone actually compiling and creating a high-quality castle dataset, in which case anyone could vibe-code a similar frontend to it. Potentially a agent (swarm) could do this, if properly integrated into OSM, wikis, libraries, photographs etc. But it wouldn't be quick and would still benefit from a human-in-the-loop verifying each entry.
- Flightmussy 2mo agoI hope that I can be the person who can fix the site properly. Yes this is vibe coded and the focus was to create a concept to see if the site had potential. Now after someone somehow made a post here which got so popular, I now will focus on fixing the site rather than testing the concept since it is proven that people do have an interest.
- Flightmussy 2mo agoHi thanks for the feedback and thank you Marklit to submit it here! Thecastlemap.com is one of the websites I operate. I also operate trainrouter.com, sunshineatlas.com. and europebeachmap.com. Honestly, I did not want to focus too much on this website due to what I thought of a market of low demand. However, there are so many critical comments. Hence, I will fix it properly and this will be one of the websites I will fully commit to. I appreciate everything guys even if you probably do not like the website. The reason why I made the website is because I reallly like castles....
- nmstoker 2mo agoPlease don't be detered by the less constructive comments, there are a myriad of approaches one could take and it's impossible to please everyone. Even if it has failings I think it's a great site and I'm grateful. Plus let's not forget it's delightfully free of advertising/ pushy banners to sign-up or pay!
- rob74 2mo agoNice project, but unfortunately (as others have also commented) a bit incomplete. Some stuff missing in Romania (which I'm reasonably familiar with): - Arad fortress (similar to Alba Iulia, but less well known, currently a military base): https://maps.app.goo.gl/a2Dw3W2CKCpU7cJA7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/a2Dw3W2CKCpU7cJA7 - Oradea fortress (same as above, but open to the public): https://maps.app.goo.gl/a2Dw3W2CKCpU7cJA7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/a2Dw3W2CKCpU7cJA7 - Târgu Mureș fortress (slightly smaller than the ones above, but also notable): https://maps.app.goo.gl/qcwSFL9hGqoCZXWv7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/qcwSFL9hGqoCZXWv7 - plus lots of villages and smaller towns in Transylvania also have fortresses or fortified churches: Biertan https://maps.app.goo.gl/VVMkpaFbf7HJjbPQA https://maps.app.goo.gl/VVMkpaFbf7HJjbPQA, Râșnov https://maps.app.goo.gl/1LnB5h2sTj1WRmTk7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/1LnB5h2sTj1WRmTk7, Saschiz https://maps.app.goo.gl/Yb5dDz38xXyy8JEZ7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/Yb5dDz38xXyy8JEZ7, Viscri https://maps.app.goo.gl/318uMB1fEvpqXSzi7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/318uMB1fEvpqXSzi7, Rupea https://maps.app.goo.gl/6hTM8PtkQhQxXcyG8 https://maps.app.goo.gl/6hTM8PtkQhQxXcyG8
- thyristan 2mo ago
- armx40 2mo agoIgnorant list. If you are including smaller form factor forts/castles from Europe only then you have to include them from India as well. Example “Thikana” etc etc.
- shehjar 2mo agoThats here. https://fortmapper.in/ https://fortmapper.in/
- throwaway2037 2mo agoFirst, hat tip for this gorgeous website. Very well made. The UX is lovely. Looking at Tokyo, Japan, I see that Hama-rikyū Gardens is included. Wiki says: > The main palace at Hama was destroyed by fire in 1724, and has not been rebuilt since. Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama-riky%C5%AB_Gardens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama-riky%C5%AB_Gardens As I understand, it is a beautiful garden, not a castle.
- YeGoblynQueenne 2mo agoHey, so, I know everyone is complaining about their favourite castle/fortress/palace missing but... it's missing the Acropolis. The Acropolis, in Athens. There's no more famous castle than that. Or fortress, whatever you want to call it. I get that this is vibe coded but I really wonder how the data was compiled. This will take serious effort to fix if it's so deficient it doesn't include the most famous castle of all. And I don't mean it will take iterating the vibe coding, this needs serious knowledge work that I don't think an LLM is sufficient for, sorry.
- MengerSponge 2mo agoBro. The Acropolis is a temple.
- YeGoblynQueenne 2mo ago"Bro", the Parthenon is a temple. The Acropolis is a citadel. The Acropolis of Athens (Ancient Greek: ἡ Ἀκρόπολις τῶν Ἀθηνῶν, romanized: hē Akropolis tōn Athēnōn; Modern Greek: Ακρόπολη Αθηνών, romanized: Akrópoli Athinón) is an ancient citadel located on a rocky outcrop above the city of Athens, Greece, and contains the remains of several ancient buildings of great architectural and historical significance, the most famous being the Parthenon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acropolis_of_Athens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acropolis_of_Athens In fact, that's what "acropolis" (small a) means: it's Greek for "citadel". And what is a "citadel"?
- ux266478 2mo agoThe distinction does make sense, as castles (formally speaking) are medieval structures, but clearly that didn't matter because the map has other ancient acropoleis. Even putting that aside, the relationship between 'aκρόπολη' and 'castle' is a pretty trivial latent feature that a transformer is literally, mathematically designed to capture. Briefly interrogated an LLM on the matter and they struggled with the classification too. Definitely an interesting failure point. I wonder if it's because of semantic dilution. Like, because the training data had so much on the Athens acropolis which is non-castle related, that the fact ended up living in a long tail for that specific acropolis. I bet a higher precision model wouldn't have done this. Quantization sucks!
- Stealthisbook 2mo agoThe North American bits are a little weird. Colorado has an entry for Bent's Fort but not for Fort Vasquez, though both are rebuilt tourist attractions. Then there's Bishop's Castle, an actual norman style castle built outside of Pueblo by some crazed guy
- sct202 2mo agoFort Dearborn in Chicago has a dot, even though no structure exists and it's only a series of plaques on the street now.
- metada5e 2mo agoThere's many more castles in Ireland than you showed. Orgs like the Office of Public Works would have a list.
- 00deadbeef 2mo agoIt’s cool. One issue I have is that the colours for “Castle & château” and “Ruin” are very similar. When you tap a marker often you can’t see the castle in the photo because it’s cropped to fit a rectangle with an unusual aspect ratio. That element should be allowed to adjust its height so the image is scaled at its own aspect ratio rather than cropped. Eg you can only see the mounds of Berwick Castle and Bamburgh Castle in the North East of England. Also this one should be included: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caisteal_Maol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caisteal_Maol
- aorth 2mo agoI think it's cool. Having lived in Jordan for a while I see there are some missing castles there. I will look into adding them in Wikidata.
- pmontra 2mo agoInteresting but very difficult to perform in the right way. Example: Italy has maybe 45k buildings that could show on that map https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Castelli_d%27Italia https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Castelli_d%27Italia but they can't be collected by looking at the English Wikipedia so it's almost empty compared to what could be. Other countries, same problem. Somebody suggested in other comments that the data could be from OpenStreetMap. Or let people add their own castles, but then you have all the sort of problems of content moderation.
- bwhiting2356 2mo agovery cool. some feedback: tricky to mouse over the tooltip to click links within the tooltip
- Flightmussy 2mo agoI am working on fixing the site. It is vibe coded which I understand is a problem. Ai took my career path so I have use it as well although I fucking hate AI. I like creating stuff though. I have only used English Wikipedia for putting castles on the map. To some degrees using Wikipedia of other languages will fix the problem partially (Which some of you have suggested). The ultimate fix would be a community who does all the suggestions, because all datasets are wrong anyways. The claim that France does have 45k castles is just so wrong lol. Yes the site does miss many castles and some are defined wrong. I am working on that and I am really thankful for all the suggestions which will be credited in the changelog: https://thecastlemap.com/changelog/ https://thecastlemap.com/changelog/ Anyways I am working on the site and updating it rather quickly because I never thought people wanted a castle site.
- Flightmussy 2mo agoI have added more landmarks, but are not yet filtered correctly. Will fix that asap.
- postatic 2mo agoAlso found this https://castles.tello.app https://castles.tello.app
- Sharlin 2mo agoI love that the annual snow castle in Kemi, Finland, is included =D https://thecastlemap.com/castles/snowcastle-of-kemi/ https://thecastlemap.com/castles/snowcastle-of-kemi/
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- drcongo 2mo agoI love this, but it's a nightmare trying to click on a link in the popovers as they try to escape from your pointer.
- _ZeD_ 2mo agostill missing castel del monte, in puglia - italy. it's on the 1¢ coins here!!
- riffraff 2mo agomh, a pretty nice castle near my hometown is listed as a Castle in wikidata, but missing on the mao, you may want to check what's up with the mapping https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q63495355 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q63495355 EDIT: ah, it's only those with an english wikipedia page, nevermind
- Pikamander2 2mo agoFeature suggestion: A filter to search for castles of a specific size (e.g. over 20 acres)
- deppep 2mo agomissing a lot of amazing federician castles in Apulia, Italy
- ajsnigrutin 2mo agoWhy is the communist-built national assembly building in Ljubljana, Slovenia on the list here? A bunch of missing castles, but then a commie style building from 1959 comes on the map?
- matty22 2mo agoAs someone who runs something similar, but for stained glass I'm going to go against the grain here and commend you on your data set. I think a lot of posters here are unfamiliar with how time consuming gathering these datapoints can be. It's mostly by hand, mostly by randomly searching or scrolling through Wikipedia, stumbling upon a partial data set, or physically traveling and having first hand knowledge that a place exists. How were you able to put together such a GREAT dataset? You could add the facility for visitors to add their own locations or submit them for review. That way the people who "know something is missing" can add it themselves.
- Flightmussy 2mo agoHi again! It is insane how much castlemap has been talked on the internet. I am still working on the project, but it is more on the correction part rather than adding new castles. The goal is to both have quality content and at the same time still make the website fun to use. Internet is supposed to be fun, interesting and free, not corporate bullshit and boring.