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I just cannot come up with a good AI-is-actually-24/7-helping-me-out use case. Please help: I wánt to need this!

by catoc 2mo ago

hamdingers 2mo ago
They help folks on fixed rate plans consistently hit their usage limits which provides them the feeling of getting their money's worth.
msh 2mo ago
Same here
kushie 2mo ago
i like using /remote-control to keep vibe dev running smoothly against my usage limits and deadlines
- catoc 2mo ago
  Running Claude code 24/7 on a code base on that “second Mac” so you can always continue after a usage limit reset, from your main device or from your phone?
  - kushie 2mo ago
    yep pretty much!
ProofHouse 2mo ago
ask AI to help
- DonHopkins 2mo ago
  Ask AI to help PERFECTLY. Make sure to spell PERFECTLY in all caps.
deleted 2mo ago
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voidingw 2mo ago
I've used it for the following when I've had tokens to burn: - Fuzzing with the goal for it to apply domain-specific and source-informed knowledge to choose specific fuzzing approaches. - More generally, any optimization problem that benefits from domain-specific or source informed knowledge. - Running Microsoft's SkillOpt [0]. [0]: https://github.com/microsoft/SkillOpt https://github.com/microsoft/SkillOpt
ianm218 2mo ago
Many Claude Code power users don’t really use IDEs anymore, so the only purpose of them working from their laptop instead of a phone is because that is the normal way to do it. Here is a real use case: you are are responsible for some alerting channel. You have datadog/ cloud logging/ github all connected. You see a bunch of alerts come through while you are out and about and you prompt CC to investigate - Claude triages and says “all of the sudden you are getting time outs from this bank API your company partners with, this started an hour ago. It’s happening on ~15% of requests”. So you ping the guy at your company who does vendor relationships and go back to your weekend. This is a non hypothetical example. Obviously it would be better if your job had a real on call rotation and more robust alerting and you wouldn’t be getting slack alerts on the weekend… but I take the approach this job affords me a lot of nice flexibility so it’s ok
- thwarted 2mo ago
  You don't have an on-call rotation but do have people dedicated to vendor relationships, and that guy works on the weekend? I'm not sure how you completely avoid getting alerts on the weekend for third-party payment processor issues, which can happen anytime, if you actually want to transact business on the weekend.
  - ianm218 2mo ago
    I said vendor here but it’s more like banks we work with. So there’s someone responsible for the technical side of banking relationships. But yeah it’s kinda a zone where most weekends there’s no problems so it’s not a huge priority… until it is
    - evan_ 2mo ago
      somehow having a contact at a bank who works on the weekend is more difficult to believe than a random vendor
      - OJFord 2mo ago
        I don't know what exactly GP works on, but 'bank' covers a lot of ground and some things happen on weekends. 'Open Banking' APIs, and some payment rails for example.
vcf 2mo ago
I run a lot of data science-type analyses that can take up to hours at a time to run, so Claude is « monitoring » tasks most of the time. I have it on remote-control so I get notified when a task is done or need clarification, but most importantly whenever I have a new idea, I can just ask Claude to queue it up. Most of the time my hardware is the bottleneck, not the subscription quotas.
- catoc 2mo ago
  That makes sense - thanks. Do you use hooks for this?
  - vcf 2mo ago
    I used to have some hooks for local notification, but lately I find that claude is pretty good at notifying through the app with remote control (but definitely not perfect)
- troupo 2mo ago
  > take up to hours at a time to run, so Claude is « monitoring » tasks most of the tim How is Claude monitoring them for hours? Claude runs out of context and extremely long sessions are prohibitively expensive even according to Anthropic (after they dispense with the marketing bullshit of long running tasks)?
  - vcf 2mo ago
    It launches these tasks in the background. It became really good at it a couple of months ago, now it sets monitors on timer (not something I instructed, so I assumed it’s part of the system prompt for this kind of tasks) and then just wait for the next prompt, for the background process to be done, or for a monitor to trigger a checkup.
    - troupo 2mo ago
      > and then just wait for the next prompt A single session running for multiple hours is prohibitively expensive, as per Anthropic. Regardless of whether it just waits for a prompt or does something.
j45 2mo ago
It's less about 24/7. It's more about it can't work when your laptop is in your bag and in transit and there is something that you have set up and want to run.
- hangrybear666 2mo ago
  Oh yeah sounds great working in your free time and while traveling to buy groceries to feed yourself so you can continue working.
  - MattGaiser 2mo ago
    That time is otherwise worthless, so yes? I don't value my travel time at all, but it used to be wasted on travelling.
  - j45 2mo ago
    Didn't imply or mention anything about working at a job in one's free time, but rather claude code continuing to work on whatever. It could be for a personal project or hobby. Having independently running processes from the computer you carry around offers benefits.
overgard 2mo ago
I think the main use case for AI bros is to setup a goofy looking dashboard, name it Jarvis to cosplay being Tony stark, and display stats for all the generated videos they're posting to social media. (I wish I was joking)
- ted_dunning 2mo ago
  And make a video about how to make a dashboard (that you call Jarvis).
  - overgard 2mo ago
    Also, offer a paid course
bagels 2mo ago
Do you do software development? Is there any work left at the end of the day? Have it do that stuff.
- troupo 2mo ago
  I always have to correct its hallucinations during the day. Why would I ever let it run unsupervised overnight?
  - amelius 2mo ago
    Running tests and optimize?
    - troupo 2mo ago
      Running tests that the agent created for its own hallucinations? Optimize using another hallucinating agent? Which tests and optimizations do you propose to run after a night of supervised work when one of main things that all agents keep doing is "load all records from db , and filter them in memory"? It's now become so bad, I had to literally vibecode a separate linter for this. And that's just one of the problems.
      - serf 2mo ago
        we don't have master AI that can create a great product out of a mediocre prompt. but we do have sufficient AI to make a great product out of a great prompt. garbage in -> garbage out hasn't gone anywhere. so: much like to anyone that blindly complains that their compiler hates them : if you actually want help, provide information. If you just want to complain that the compiler is mean, scream at the sky. plenty of people have figured out how to get this to work; more than enough to confirm that a straight <gambling-machine>/<hallucinatory-psychopath>/<random-number-generator> analogy is too simplistic to explain what we're working with.
        troupo 2mo ago
        Demagoguery. Your "great product" (where is it? show me these great products) will have wildly ineficient code and things like "read the entire DB into memory" regardless of the prompt. > plenty of people have figured out how to get this to work Plenty of people claim they have figured it out. In reality these people are full of shit and assume that if LLMs can produce working software, it's great working software. And also assume that LoC is a measure of quality. Because without fail all the models keep doing this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48962703 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48962703 And you can only see that in your "great product" if you actually read the code and understand what's going on.
popalchemist 2mo ago
Generating leads for new work, if you are a freelance. Automatically answering customer support emails, if you own a SaaS. Monitoring competitors' socials, websites, etc for new features you have to compete with. Monitoring updates on software you depend on for breaking change / deprecation announcements.
trentor 2mo ago
I changed all smart speakers to retrofitted old radios with an amp and a pi. The hot word detection runs on the pi itself but whisper and LLM/task orchestrations goes over my local server with a 4080.
amelius 2mo ago
Letting it control a browser and searching for a pair of pants of a given size and length and color and style. Yes, surprisingly, this is something Google cannot do yet.
dandaka 2mo ago
Few cases I have found very useful myself 1/ Using GUI software. My agents are using headful Google Chrome and Figma. It helps a lot to have separate environment, which is not interfering my main machine. 2/ Running long processes (1h+), so I can leave main machine closed. 3/ Running intensive processes. I use Gemma, Whisper and Qwen, which could burn main machine CPU and resources.
cloudking 2mo ago
Pretty much doing everything that takes more time doing manually on computers
fabijanbajo 2mo ago
harvesting
intromert 2mo ago
The other day I used Claude Cowork to create a checklist for me so that I can safely re-install my laptop... It went through all ssh configuration, apps, downloads, documents etc... Once I had the checklist, I asked it to do the backup itself, along with instructions to re-install/setup everything once I had the laptop re-installed. This was something I was procrastinating for too long already...

I just cannot come up with a good AI-is-actually-24/7-helping-me-out use case. Please help: I wánt to need this!

by catoc 2mo ago

I just cannot come up with a good AI-is-actually-24/7-helping-me-out use case. Please help: I wánt to need this!

They help folks on fixed rate plans consistently hit their usage limits which provides them the feeling of getting their money's worth.

msh 2mo ago

Same here

kushie 2mo ago

i like using /remote-control to keep vibe dev running smoothly against my usage limits and deadlines

catoc 2mo ago
Running Claude code 24/7 on a code base on that “second Mac” so you can always continue after a usage limit reset, from your main device or from your phone?
- kushie 2mo ago
  yep pretty much!

ProofHouse 2mo ago

ask AI to help

DonHopkins 2mo ago
Ask AI to help PERFECTLY. Make sure to spell PERFECTLY in all caps.

deleted 2mo ago

[deleted]

voidingw 2mo ago

I've used it for the following when I've had tokens to burn: - Fuzzing with the goal for it to apply domain-specific and source-informed knowledge to choose specific fuzzing approaches. - More generally, any optimization problem that benefits from domain-specific or source informed knowledge. - Running Microsoft's SkillOpt [0]. [0]: https://github.com/microsoft/SkillOpt https://github.com/microsoft/SkillOpt

ianm218 2mo ago

Many Claude Code power users don’t really use IDEs anymore, so the only purpose of them working from their laptop instead of a phone is because that is the normal way to do it. Here is a real use case: you are are responsible for some alerting channel. You have datadog/ cloud logging/ github all connected. You see a bunch of alerts come through while you are out and about and you prompt CC to investigate - Claude triages and says “all of the sudden you are getting time outs from this bank API your company partners with, this started an hour ago. It’s happening on ~15% of requests”. So you ping the guy at your company who does vendor relationships and go back to your weekend. This is a non hypothetical example. Obviously it would be better if your job had a real on call rotation and more robust alerting and you wouldn’t be getting slack alerts on the weekend… but I take the approach this job affords me a lot of nice flexibility so it’s ok

thwarted 2mo ago
You don't have an on-call rotation but do have people dedicated to vendor relationships, and that guy works on the weekend? I'm not sure how you completely avoid getting alerts on the weekend for third-party payment processor issues, which can happen anytime, if you actually want to transact business on the weekend.
- ianm218 2mo ago
  I said vendor here but it’s more like banks we work with. So there’s someone responsible for the technical side of banking relationships. But yeah it’s kinda a zone where most weekends there’s no problems so it’s not a huge priority… until it is
  - evan_ 2mo ago
    somehow having a contact at a bank who works on the weekend is more difficult to believe than a random vendor
    - OJFord 2mo ago
      I don't know what exactly GP works on, but 'bank' covers a lot of ground and some things happen on weekends. 'Open Banking' APIs, and some payment rails for example.

vcf 2mo ago

I run a lot of data science-type analyses that can take up to hours at a time to run, so Claude is « monitoring » tasks most of the time. I have it on remote-control so I get notified when a task is done or need clarification, but most importantly whenever I have a new idea, I can just ask Claude to queue it up. Most of the time my hardware is the bottleneck, not the subscription quotas.

catoc 2mo ago
That makes sense - thanks. Do you use hooks for this?
- vcf 2mo ago
  I used to have some hooks for local notification, but lately I find that claude is pretty good at notifying through the app with remote control (but definitely not perfect)
troupo 2mo ago
> take up to hours at a time to run, so Claude is « monitoring » tasks most of the tim How is Claude monitoring them for hours? Claude runs out of context and extremely long sessions are prohibitively expensive even according to Anthropic (after they dispense with the marketing bullshit of long running tasks)?
- vcf 2mo ago
  It launches these tasks in the background. It became really good at it a couple of months ago, now it sets monitors on timer (not something I instructed, so I assumed it’s part of the system prompt for this kind of tasks) and then just wait for the next prompt, for the background process to be done, or for a monitor to trigger a checkup.
  - troupo 2mo ago
    > and then just wait for the next prompt A single session running for multiple hours is prohibitively expensive, as per Anthropic. Regardless of whether it just waits for a prompt or does something.

j45 2mo ago

It's less about 24/7. It's more about it can't work when your laptop is in your bag and in transit and there is something that you have set up and want to run.

hangrybear666 2mo ago
Oh yeah sounds great working in your free time and while traveling to buy groceries to feed yourself so you can continue working.
- MattGaiser 2mo ago
  That time is otherwise worthless, so yes? I don't value my travel time at all, but it used to be wasted on travelling.
- j45 2mo ago
  Didn't imply or mention anything about working at a job in one's free time, but rather claude code continuing to work on whatever. It could be for a personal project or hobby. Having independently running processes from the computer you carry around offers benefits.

overgard 2mo ago

I think the main use case for AI bros is to setup a goofy looking dashboard, name it Jarvis to cosplay being Tony stark, and display stats for all the generated videos they're posting to social media. (I wish I was joking)

ted_dunning 2mo ago
And make a video about how to make a dashboard (that you call Jarvis).
- overgard 2mo ago
  Also, offer a paid course

bagels 2mo ago

Do you do software development? Is there any work left at the end of the day? Have it do that stuff.

troupo 2mo ago
I always have to correct its hallucinations during the day. Why would I ever let it run unsupervised overnight?
- amelius 2mo ago
  Running tests and optimize?
  - troupo 2mo ago
    Running tests that the agent created for its own hallucinations? Optimize using another hallucinating agent? Which tests and optimizations do you propose to run after a night of supervised work when one of main things that all agents keep doing is "load all records from db , and filter them in memory"? It's now become so bad, I had to literally vibecode a separate linter for this. And that's just one of the problems.
    - serf 2mo ago
      we don't have master AI that can create a great product out of a mediocre prompt. but we do have sufficient AI to make a great product out of a great prompt. garbage in -> garbage out hasn't gone anywhere. so: much like to anyone that blindly complains that their compiler hates them : if you actually want help, provide information. If you just want to complain that the compiler is mean, scream at the sky. plenty of people have figured out how to get this to work; more than enough to confirm that a straight <gambling-machine>/<hallucinatory-psychopath>/<random-number-generator> analogy is too simplistic to explain what we're working with.
      - troupo 2mo ago
        Demagoguery. Your "great product" (where is it? show me these great products) will have wildly ineficient code and things like "read the entire DB into memory" regardless of the prompt. > plenty of people have figured out how to get this to work Plenty of people claim they have figured it out. In reality these people are full of shit and assume that if LLMs can produce working software, it's great working software. And also assume that LoC is a measure of quality. Because without fail all the models keep doing this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48962703 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48962703 And you can only see that in your "great product" if you actually read the code and understand what's going on.

popalchemist 2mo ago

Generating leads for new work, if you are a freelance. Automatically answering customer support emails, if you own a SaaS. Monitoring competitors' socials, websites, etc for new features you have to compete with. Monitoring updates on software you depend on for breaking change / deprecation announcements.

trentor 2mo ago

I changed all smart speakers to retrofitted old radios with an amp and a pi. The hot word detection runs on the pi itself but whisper and LLM/task orchestrations goes over my local server with a 4080.

amelius 2mo ago

Letting it control a browser and searching for a pair of pants of a given size and length and color and style. Yes, surprisingly, this is something Google cannot do yet.

dandaka 2mo ago

Few cases I have found very useful myself 1/ Using GUI software. My agents are using headful Google Chrome and Figma. It helps a lot to have separate environment, which is not interfering my main machine. 2/ Running long processes (1h+), so I can leave main machine closed. 3/ Running intensive processes. I use Gemma, Whisper and Qwen, which could burn main machine CPU and resources.

cloudking 2mo ago

Pretty much doing everything that takes more time doing manually on computers

fabijanbajo 2mo ago

harvesting

intromert 2mo ago

The other day I used Claude Cowork to create a checklist for me so that I can safely re-install my laptop... It went through all ssh configuration, apps, downloads, documents etc... Once I had the checklist, I asked it to do the backup itself, along with instructions to re-install/setup everything once I had the laptop re-installed. This was something I was procrastinating for too long already...