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>Jubair and Flowers who both have autism, gained access to the data by tricking a phone help desk worker. What does this have to do with anything in this artic

by d-lowl 2mo ago

>Jubair and Flowers who both have autism, gained access to the data by tricking a phone help desk worker. What does this have to do with anything in this article.

voidUpdate 2mo ago
Autism always makes your kids into sociopathic hackers, as we all know. They are also always top of their class in maths and bad at interacting with people /s
- rapidaneurism 2mo ago
  Unless it is to trick them into resetting a password over the phone that is
inigyou 2mo ago
Helps spread memes the BBC wants you to believe. Namely, autistic people bad. See, this is why I think the BBC needs to go.
- Steve16384 2mo ago
  Why on earth would the BBC want or care for people to believe that? Are they in the pay of the anti-autism league? We're through the looking glass people!
  - billygatesgruff 2mo ago
    I advise people to start looking into the case of the traitor and double agent Chris Packham
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    I don't know but they've been spreading this kind of thing for a while. See also how they report on the middle east.
    - GJim 2mo ago
      [flagged]
Aurornis 2mo ago
The article is reporting on what was discussed in court: Autism, suicidal tendencies, living with grandparents. These were all probably brought up as elements of the story meant to influence the verdict. Take it up with lawyers.
- Der_Einzige 2mo ago
  [flagged]
  - red-iron-pine 2mo ago
    yeah but these guys actually had friends and accomplished stuff. they're terrible at OpSec, sure, but they were part of a gang and cracked systems
masfuerte 2mo ago
Schrodinger's hackers. They are simultaneously autistic and skilled at social engineering.
- d-us-vb 2mo ago
  Autistic people are unusually good at studying patterns objectively. While each individual person is... an individual, studying a sample from a population yields patterns, and thus the justification for the "social sciences". While autistic people may struggle with in person communication and upholding norms of human interaction, they do not generally struggle with understanding game theory, motives, and other aspects of rational decision making. So they can indeed make brilliant (and ruthless) social engineers if only when hiding behind a computer keyboard.
  - watwut 2mo ago
    That is not autism, that is sociopathy. Autism does not turn on and off when you can gain something from it. In your telling, autism is an excuse when they abuse others, because they cant help themselves. But, when it is for their benefit, the same person actually displays higher social skills.
    - billygatesgruff 2mo ago
      Lol, U should meet my upstairs neighbour, his coping mechanisms are curiously similar to ways of slyly molesting and aggravating other people. He's spent seven years obsessing stalking and trying to harm me psychologically, now he's trapped in a hole he can't get out of... Because he didn't like me ignoring him. I ignore him because he is absurdely vain and likes being distasteful and offputting. I'm sorry, if they don't teach kids coping mechanisms, they are doing this to them. The BBC where mentioned here as spreading FUD about artists, I did a search to find one of the many supportive and educational stories I have seen on their website - the first result is for paid Autism tests for children. It is a profitable diagnosis. It triggers a non behavioural approach that leaves adults disabled for life.
    - d-us-vb 2mo ago
amiga386 2mo ago
It's a magical superpower. It kept https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon from being extradicted to the USA. Apparently the courts don't accept "your opsec is shit and I got in with default passwords", but they do accept "I have autism" Let's try it in action: - "Mr Wallace, we have several credible reports that you harrassed TV production staff by going around with no underpants on, and finding excuses to take your trousers down. What do you say to that?" - "Did I mention I have autism?" ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx24lxl85wyo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx24lxl85wyo )

by d-lowl 2mo ago

>Jubair and Flowers who both have autism, gained access to the data by tricking a phone help desk worker. What does this have to do with anything in this article.

voidUpdate 2mo ago

Autism always makes your kids into sociopathic hackers, as we all know. They are also always top of their class in maths and bad at interacting with people /s

rapidaneurism 2mo ago
Unless it is to trick them into resetting a password over the phone that is

inigyou 2mo ago

Helps spread memes the BBC wants you to believe. Namely, autistic people bad. See, this is why I think the BBC needs to go.

Steve16384 2mo ago
Why on earth would the BBC want or care for people to believe that? Are they in the pay of the anti-autism league? We're through the looking glass people!
- billygatesgruff 2mo ago
  I advise people to start looking into the case of the traitor and double agent Chris Packham
- inigyou 2mo ago
  I don't know but they've been spreading this kind of thing for a while. See also how they report on the middle east.
  - GJim 2mo ago
    [flagged]

Aurornis 2mo ago

The article is reporting on what was discussed in court: Autism, suicidal tendencies, living with grandparents. These were all probably brought up as elements of the story meant to influence the verdict. Take it up with lawyers.

Der_Einzige 2mo ago
[flagged]
- red-iron-pine 2mo ago
  yeah but these guys actually had friends and accomplished stuff. they're terrible at OpSec, sure, but they were part of a gang and cracked systems

masfuerte 2mo ago

Schrodinger's hackers. They are simultaneously autistic and skilled at social engineering.

d-us-vb 2mo ago
Autistic people are unusually good at studying patterns objectively. While each individual person is... an individual, studying a sample from a population yields patterns, and thus the justification for the "social sciences". While autistic people may struggle with in person communication and upholding norms of human interaction, they do not generally struggle with understanding game theory, motives, and other aspects of rational decision making. So they can indeed make brilliant (and ruthless) social engineers if only when hiding behind a computer keyboard.
- watwut 2mo ago
  That is not autism, that is sociopathy. Autism does not turn on and off when you can gain something from it. In your telling, autism is an excuse when they abuse others, because they cant help themselves. But, when it is for their benefit, the same person actually displays higher social skills.
  - billygatesgruff 2mo ago
    Lol, U should meet my upstairs neighbour, his coping mechanisms are curiously similar to ways of slyly molesting and aggravating other people. He's spent seven years obsessing stalking and trying to harm me psychologically, now he's trapped in a hole he can't get out of... Because he didn't like me ignoring him. I ignore him because he is absurdely vain and likes being distasteful and offputting. I'm sorry, if they don't teach kids coping mechanisms, they are doing this to them. The BBC where mentioned here as spreading FUD about artists, I did a search to find one of the many supportive and educational stories I have seen on their website - the first result is for paid Autism tests for children. It is a profitable diagnosis. It triggers a non behavioural approach that leaves adults disabled for life.
  - d-us-vb 2mo ago

amiga386 2mo ago

It's a magical superpower. It kept https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon from being extradicted to the USA. Apparently the courts don't accept "your opsec is shit and I got in with default passwords", but they do accept "I have autism" Let's try it in action: - "Mr Wallace, we have several credible reports that you harrassed TV production staff by going around with no underpants on, and finding excuses to take your trousers down. What do you say to that?" - "Did I mention I have autism?" ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx24lxl85wyo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx24lxl85wyo )