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There are many biotech startups and private research labs thriving and paying high salaries with excellent benefits for that specialty right now - focused on ge
by drak0n1c 3mo ago
There are many biotech startups and private research labs thriving and paying high salaries with excellent benefits for that specialty right now - focused on genetic testing, editing, and longevity. Before moving abroad, widening the search outside of academia and considering moving internally might be worthwhile.
- ryanmcbride 3mo agoI'm sorry but this is so naive
- dwa3592 3mo agoWe are not convinced that we will be happy in the industry and part of it is the visa issues. She currently has a valid visa until 2029 but she just doesn't want it anymore.
- avs733 3mo agoWhy assume that this is about finding a job? I happily had a job in academia in the US. Probably what most would call “successful” after exiting a startup and getting a PhD I was US engineering faculty for 8 years. We picked up our keys to our new house in another country a few days ago and I start next month with a faculty promotion. Many of my colleagues are or are looking to follow.
- dominotw 3mo agopromotion is a good reason to move. good luck!
- npodbielski 3mo agoJust out of curiosity, where did you move?
- avs733 3mo agoI’m going to keep it vague beyond saying that I don’t have to worry about going bankrupt from healthcare.
- raegis 3mo agoThat narrows it down to about 50 countries :)
- Munksgaard 3mo agoSo pretty much any other country.
- kjkjadksj 3mo agoYou are a fool if you think these companies are hiring enough to meet the labor needs. So many Phds I know are looking for work and yes they’ve applied to probably 500 jobs mostly in industry.
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- epistasis 3mo agoI'm surviving on consulting income for a wide variety of clients right now in this space, and let me tell you it's brutal and extremely difficult to get entry to this space for people that don't have a wide network and lots of industry experience. Academic experience typically doesn't count. In addition there's a severe "passion tax" for these sorts of jobs, the salary difference for a "Data Scientist, Computational Biology", and "Computational Biologist" is pretty big, and hiring is also brutal. I know a ton of extremely talented people who have been locked out of employment for a long time now. The high interest environment means that biotech investing has been hit extremely hard, as biotech is even higher risk than most software and AI spending (thanks for the correction, Schlagbohrer). Pharma companiees with big hits, like Lilly with GLP1 agonists, are hiring a bit as they try to move into the modern era of pharma with lots of AI tools, but it's still brutal.
- Schlagbohrer 3mo agoDid you mean to write, high interest rate environment?
- doctorpangloss 3mo agoI don't know if it's so much that talented people are being locked out, as much as it is that communities everywhere, not just industry, are requiring a level of people skills that academic people lack but nonetheless thrive without.
- wholinator2 3mo agoAcademics do have a reputation that way, but only the 100% safe, tenured ones. The majority of academics are required to have a strong level of communication just to get their grants accepted. Imagine if, on top of working your normal job at maximum efficiency, you then had to make a presentation to the government every year about why you and everyone that depends upon you deserves to eat, while the government you make the presentation to becomes increasingly antagonistic and detached. There's quite a lot of people skills involved in surviving as an academic in today's environment. Imagine if you had to teach calculus to 150 random, uninterested teenagers (barely adults) every 12 weeks. There's some serious people skills involved in doing a good job at that (most people do actually try to teach well, I've known multiple people this year refused tenure based on rate-my-teacher ratings). It's a different set of skills for sure, but being an academic isn't as socially challenged as the zeitgeist appears to believe.
- text0404 3mo agoA lot of people in academia are mission driven - they don't care about the money, they care about the application of their work to benefit humanity and don't want to exist as a cog in a private corporation's profits. I think this mentality of "scientists just want to get paid a lot of money" is contributing to the anti-science views that are so pervasive in America these days. Some people are motivated by more than just profit.
- cosmicgadget 3mo agoAnd/or corporate culture has some major drawbacks compared to universities and national labs.
- tw04 3mo agoWhy would they want to stay in a country actively trying to dismantle democracy and science if they have another option?
- jatora 3mo agoBecause it hasn't had as much time to dismantle democracy as all of the other democracies in the world have. lol
- dominotw 3mo agowell lot of ppl are always moving out of america but few actually do. thats obvious by now.
- solid_fuel 3mo agoKeep your head in the sand, that will help things.
- taylodl 3mo agoEmigration out of the US right now is at historic, record-breaking levels. Have any other uninformed comments you'd like to make?
- insane_dreamer 3mo ago> considering moving internally does that get you a new fed administration that isn't idiotically anti-science?
- solid_fuel 3mo agoTerrible response. Just so you understand, private companies are not doing the kind of foundational research that public funded institutes were doing.
- browningstreet 3mo agoI feel like you missed the point of moving overseas.
- s5300 3mo ago[dead]