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Wow, so someone opened a discord server for a community and banned an insulting word for the community? This must be a first.
by blell 7mo ago
Wow, so someone opened a discord server for a community and banned an insulting word for the community? This must be a first.
- Gualdrapo 7mo agoIs "Microslop" really insulting, though?
- TOMDM 7mo agoYou can argue that banning insults is a bad look, bad move, that the insult is warranted or whatever, but are you really going to die on the hill that calling the company Microslop isn't insulting?
- cluckindan 7mo agoinsult (verb): to say or do something to someone that is rude or offensive Corporate personhood at its finest.
- wraptile 7mo agoPeople do work at Microsoft though and they're probably aren't very happy when their work is called slop. You could even say they are feeling insulted or offended.
- crote 7mo agoSee, that requires the code to be written by an actual human being, who has agency and a sense of pride and ownership about their work. Maybe there are still some teams deep inside the bowels of Microsoft that management has forgotten about that still operate like that, but judging by the way the user-facing parts of its products have developed, the mass firings, and the pushing of AI-driven development by upper management, it seems very clear to me that there's very little risk of insulting anything anyone actually cares about.
- miningape 7mo agoSimple. Don't produce slop then. If it offends you so much that people call your work as it is, you should do better work, grow some thicker skin, or stop.
- wraptile 7mo agoI'd agree but if you ever been on the receiving end of a meme-train you'd see that it's not driven by rationality. I'm not familiar with this issue but my bet would be that even hand-crafted personal projects were being called slop because once meme runs away from initial meaning it just becomes closer to swear word than a meaning.
- bigfishrunning 7mo agoIf there was a lot of handcrafted personal projects coming from Microsoft, their reputation would change. But there isn't. I would imagine anyone who is interested in "handcrafted personal projects" sees the writing on the wall and is at least looking to leave Microsoft, which seems to be positioned to be the Prime Slop Factory.
- TOMDM 7mo agoWhy just make up a definition? From the oxford dictionary: Noun: speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Verb: a disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or act. Note the lack of personhood in those definitions. I can insult an object, event, person, corporation or even an idea.
- cluckindan 7mo agoThe definition is from the Cambridge dictionary. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/insult https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/insult
- schiffern 7mo agoHey now, what's wrong with 'slop?' A farmer loves slop. It's dirt cheap, and the pigs don't seem to mind...
- latexr 7mo agoIt is definitely an insult because it’s used pejoratively. If it is insulting I guess depends on if the target feels insulted. Seeing as they blocked the word, it seems they do.
- Manfred 7mo agoWhy wouldn’t it be? It’s a mean derivation of their company name.
- 4gotunameagain 7mo agoIt would be mean if they weren't actually vibecoding copilot & md into notepad, introducing an RCE vulnerability. In notepad.
- TOMDM 7mo agoWhy get yourself twisted like this? They can do a bad thing, and then you can make fun of it with an insult. Own it, the insult is warranted, why hide and pretend it's not an insult. If Microsoft is consistently shipping slop, then they deserve insults over it; not every "bad" thing is always unwarranted. Locking someone in a box is "bad", prison is a necessary thing that benefits society. Insults are "bad" and sometimes warranted.
- FpUser 7mo agoThey did not rewrite Notepad in Rust? Seems to be an easy target
- seanclayton 7mo agoIt's as insulting as M$ is
- cinntaile 7mo agoHow is M$ insulting? It just looks like a leetspeak version of MS.
- matsemann 7mo agoAnd other insults are just words as well. It's the intention, history, connotation etc. behind words that give them meaning. M$ is meant as an insult, hence it's insulting. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/M$ https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/M$
- 5o1ecist 7mo ago[flagged]
- blell 7mo agoI would say that “microslop” is akin to the old term “micro$oft”, which was a good sign of immaturity of whoever used it.
- windowliker 7mo agoIt's insulting to good, honest slop.
- angstrom 7mo agoLess insulting than Macroslop
- hagbard_c 7mo agoIf anything it is a diminutive for a company which really should have named itself Megaslop by now if not Gigaslop or even Teraslop. Poor little Microslop, are those people being nasty again?
- 7952 7mo agoThe branding people will hate it. Although IMHO the best thing they could do is co-opt it as a feedback term and acknowledge that AI can be hit or miss.
- JasonADrury 7mo agoI think the most important question here is this: Are users who post the string "microslop" generally desirable participants that will contribute in a productive manner? I suspect not.
- Steve16384 7mo agoIt depends what the purpose of the Discord channel is. Is it for open and frank discussion, or for MS drones to discuss Copilot development. It's a cliche, but banning certain words smacks of 1984-style censorship.
- JasonADrury 7mo ago> Is it for open and frank discussion So... 4chan? Why would you possibly want that in this context? Although, you're posting on HN so it's probably fair to assume that "open and frank discussion" isn't a very high priority for you.
- crote 7mo agoAn even more important question is: why does Microsoft care so much about a handful of people using that term that they are willing to risk getting Streisanded over it? Nobody cares about banning the few idiots who do nothing but spam "MICROSLOP SUCKS MICROSLOP SUCKS". But banning the entire term "microslop", just in case someone might use it? Well, what kind of response were they expecting?
- JasonADrury 7mo ago>An even more important question is: why does Microsoft care so much about a handful of people using that term that they are willing to risk getting Streisanded over it? Because the decision was made by some normal adult without mental health issues who hasn't internalized just how disturbed some people on the internet are? It really shouldn't be unreasonable for moderators to try to maintain a professional tone. Although in this case they certainly picked the wrong platform if "professional" was what they were going for.
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- 2OEH8eoCRo0 7mo ago> someone It's Microsoft's official Copilot Discord. Microsoft banned the word
- goku12 7mo agoThey really showed him, didn't they?