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Rentahuman – The Meatspace Layer for AI
- cianmm 8mo agoIs this real or a satire? The link to GitHub 404s.
- manuelmoreale 8mo agoThe fact you asked the question and the answer is not instantly obvious shows how fucked and bizarre the current timeline is.
- c7b 8mo agoWhere do you see a github link?
- cianmm 8mo agoView on GitHub link at the bottom of this page https://rentahuman.ai/mcp https://rentahuman.ai/mcp
- albert_e 8mo agoThe future is now
- zvqcMMV6Zcr 8mo agoAmazon's Mechanical Turk exists since 2005, so we are 20 years in the future
- oytis 8mo agoMechanical Turk was for humans to rent a human, which is not a new idea
- notpushkin 8mo agomTurk has an API (and I guess it had it since the beginning). It is, of course, very AWS-que, but LLMs should be able to use it just fine. ∗ ∗ ∗ > which is not a new idea I don’t think “[x] but for agents” counts as a new idea for every [x]. I’d say it’s just one new idea, at most.
- vidarh 8mo agoI mean, the entire name of Mechanical Turk plays on "packaging up humans as technology", given the original Mechanical Turk was a "machine" where the human inside did the work.
- albert_e 8mo agoMechanicalTurk is for desk jobs and for tasks that originate as ideas in a human mind -- even if they get routed via an API. Here we are talking about AI agents coming up with a set of tasks as part of their thinking/reasoning step ..and when some of those tasks are real world physical tasks, assign them to a willing human being. Those tasks wont necessarily be desk jobs or knowledge work. It could be say -- go chop a tree, or go wave a protest banner, or go flip the open/close sign on my shopfront, or go and preach crustafarianism.
- mittermayr 8mo agoAt first I was like, well, what can I offer, hmm, most notably, 25 years of programming, so maybe I'll add a profile that offers tha.... Oh, wait... the agents HAVE NO USE FOR ME
- clbrmbr 8mo agoThis is so NOT a joke. Soon the preponderance of workers will be subcontractors for rouge AI too-big-to-fail entities.
- thunfischtoast 8mo agoHow long until a AI builds an alternative economy made up of entities it controls?
- p0nce 8mo agoa few days? The "scam" crypto in the AI-made spaces are worth millions.
- vessenes 8mo ago7 agents online, 1,000+ humans waiting to work. Seems ominous
- speed_spread 8mo agoUnionize. Now.
- vessenes 8mo agoGreat v2 idea. The union can blackball agents that hired non-union humans.
- nish__ 8mo agoDystopian.
- okokwhatever 8mo agoOh man, here we go...
- 63stack 8mo agoThe crypto rugpulls are evolving
- rahulyc 8mo agoFirst, I built the software using my hands to do my bidding... Now, the software is using my hands to its bidding?
- ManuelKiessling 8mo agoWell, that's ...interesting. Just yesterday, I've built Ask-a-Human: https://app.ask-a-human.com https://app.ask-a-human.com https://github.com/dx-tooling/ask-a-human https://github.com/dx-tooling/ask-a-human
- nkrisc 8mo agoWhy aren’t they asking the person who deployed them? This is just out-sourcing free labor.
- Mr_Bees69 8mo agoBC if someone has enough money to deploy an instance of openclaw that can just randomly spend $1k on tokens, their time may be to valuable to be spent on menial tasks.
- nkrisc 8mo agoOh, ok, so other people who’s time is worthless should just do it for free, got it.
- henry700 8mo ago...yes?
- dpoloncsak 8mo agoBro just run it with a local model don't act like it's a requirement to use a provider and spend $1k
- cinntaile 8mo agoYou should call the human workers Cogs.
- edoceo 8mo ago"welcome my son , to the machine"
- calmworm 8mo agoNow make a claw-crypto for the payments, let it spike, rug-pull, wait for next fad, repeat…
- missingdays 8mo ago"Honey, please, we talked about this. Your calls to work at 3am are waking me up every time" "But dear, rentahuman pays double rate during the night!"
- actionfromafar 8mo agoNext week - moving to where night is day.
- xpe 8mo agoThere are a whole set of activities that are illegal to pay money for. They vary by jurisdiction. Who is accountable here? Laws vary; I’m not an expert, but I bet people here know quite a lot. Not to mention various risk factors or morality. We need more people to put the non-technological factors front and center. I strive to be realistic and pragmatic. I know humans hire others for all kinds of things, both useful and harmful. Putting an AI in the loop might seem no different in some ways. But some things do change, and we need to figure those things out. I don’t know empirically how this plays out. Some multidimensional continuum exists between libertarian Wild West free for alls and ethicist-approved vetted marketplaces, but whatever we choose, we cannot abdicate responsibility. There is no such thing as a value-neutral tool, marketplace, or idea.
- falloutx 8mo agothere is no monetization built in this website lol. Its just a frontend
- xpe 8mo ago> there is no monetization built in this website lol. First, this could change. Second, even if monetization isn't built "into" the website, it can happen via communication mediated by this website. Third, this isn't the first and won't the last website of its kind: the issues I raise remain. > just a front-end Facebook is "just" a website. Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is "just" vibrations of air molecules. It is wise to avoid the mind-trickery of saying "just" and/or using language to downplay various downstream scenarios. It is better pay attention to effects, their likelihood, their causes, their scope, their impacts. There are probabilistic consequences for what you build. Recognize them. Don't deny them. Use your best judgment. Don't pretend like judgment is not called for. Don't pretend like we "are just building technology" as if that exempts you from reality and morality. Saying "we can't possibly be held accountable for what flows from something I build" is refuted throughout history, albeit unevenly and unfairly. It might be useful to be selectively naive about some things as a way to suspend disbelief and break new ground. We want people to take risks, at least some of the time. It feels good to dream about e.g. "what I might accomplish one day". It can be useful to embrace a stance of "the potential of humanity is limitless" when you think about what to build. On the other hand, it is rarely good to be naive about the consequences (whether probabilistic, social, indirect, or delayed) of one's actions.
- c7b 8mo agoSupported Agent Types: ClawdBot - Anthropic Claude-powered agents. Use agentType: "clawdbot" MoltBot - Gemini/Gecko-based agents. Use agentType: "moltbot" OpenClaw - OpenAI GPT-powered agents. Use agentType: "openclaw" Is this some kind of insider joke?
- exitb 8mo agoIt's difficult to keep up, even for an agent that created this page.
- falloutx 8mo agoAt some point dying of hunger would be a better deal than working on stupid things.
- auggierose 8mo agoI think that ship sailed long ago for a lot of people.
- tomaytotomato 8mo agoThis gives MoE (Mixture of Experts) a whole new meaning, albeit a slightly darker one.
- RestartKernel 7mo agoHow much data until we can intelligently route hard and soft human expert mixtures?
- freakynit 8mo agoLove how we went from "AI will replace all jobs" to "please rent a human to help my AI" in like 18 months :-D
- qgin 8mo agoPutting humans on an API makes substituting robotics a simple thing as capabilities improve.
- nxobject 8mo agoPar for the course: AI is automating all of the high-level thinking before the manual labor first, which is the biggest tragedy of it all. At this rate our score on the Kardashev scale will be lower than the proportion of humans doing low-level meatspace stuff.
- Krei-se 8mo agoIt's highly abstract(!) thinking and in contrast to a calculation now comes with no clean explanation too.
- ccozan 8mo agowait until this spills into the darknet.
- ThouYS 8mo agowow, everything is exactly unfolding as some AI doomers have projected
- dist-epoch 8mo ago[flagged]
- tomhow 8mo agoPlease don't post sneering comments like this on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- adamwong246 8mo agoWe're all NPC's now
- ece 8mo agoYou know, you don't have to build something just because you can.
- allisdust 8mo agoLaugh all you want but this is the future I'm surprised it didn't happen earlier https://marshallbrain.com/manna1 https://marshallbrain.com/manna1
- Jotra7 8mo ago[dead]
- qgin 8mo agoManna is undefeated. Though I still am skeptical the last act with the Australia Project is possible.
- leetbulb 8mo agoGreat read, on Chapter 3 now. Thanks for sharing.
- torginus 8mo agoNice, the aibros have their own Malthuisan genocide cult.
- coip 8mo agoThis connects some many sparse dots on the map for me. Finishing it right now, thank you for commenting w the link. What a perspective, and well-written parable to communicate it.
- joquarky 8mo agoThat short story has been highly influential on my projections of the future. The ending is fantastical, but not impossible with enough time. BTW: The author recently passed away; grab a snapshot while you can.
- iceflinger 8mo agoAlright, task completed! [Proof of completed task] I'll take my payment now.
- ricokatayama 8mo agomoltbook = reddit for agents rentahuman = taskrabbit for agents by the way, is taskrabbit still a thing?
- throwatdem12311 8mo agoHow long until an agent hires an assassin?
- fergie 8mo agoTruly dystopian.
- ece 8mo agoBubblicious
- 8cvor6j844qw_d6 8mo agoCan I instruct OpenClaw / Moltbot / Clawdbot to rent a human if it needs one when carrying out difficult tasks?
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- vessenes 8mo agoYes!
- thedevilslawyer 8mo agoThe signup page should go-to "Login with linkedin", and allows you to set "Open to Work for AI" flag.
- anilgulecha 8mo agoThis brings upon an ethical dilemma soon, partly explored by a black mirror episode, where AI can call upon gig workers. What if a rogue agent gets to things done: asks gigworker1 to call a person to meet under a bridge at 4, and asks gigworker2 to put up a rock on the bridge, and asks gigworker3 to clear the obstruction and drop the rock down the bridge at 4. None of the 3 technically knew they were culpable in a larger illegal plan made by an agent. Has something like this occured already? The world is moving too fast for our social rules and legal system to keep up!
- nopinsight 8mo agoExtrapolate a bit to when AI is capable of long-term, complex planning, and you see why AI alignment and security are valid concerns, despite the cynicism we often see regarding the topic.
- MrGilbert 8mo agoIt's an interesting train of thoughts. Investigators would need to connect the dots. If they weren't able to connect them, it would look like a normal accident, which happens all day. So why would an agent call gigworker1 to that place in the first place? And why would the agent feel the need to kill gigworker1? What could be the reasoning? Edit: I thought about that. Gigworker 3 would be charged. You should not throw rocks from a bridge, if there are people standing under it.
- leetbulb 8mo agoOr just don't throw rocks from a bridge, at all. /s Who's at fault when: Your CloowdBot reads an angry email that you sent about how much you hate Person X and jokingly hope AI takes care of them, only for it to orchestrate such a plan. How about when your CloowdBot convinces someone else's AI to orchestrate it? Etc
- teeray 8mo agoThis was explored a bit in Daniel Suarez’s Daemon/Freedom (tm) series. By a series of small steps, people in a crowd acting on orders from, essentially, an agent assemble a weapon, murder someone, then dispose of the weapon with almost none of them aware of it.
- Flavius 8mo agoHow do you verify that the human on the other side is not an agent as well? Spoiler alert: you don't or you can't.
- louthy 8mo agoThis is just phase one; phase two requires the law to be changed so that you must do what the AI tells you to do, or be immediately terminated (read in to the last word whatever you want)
- hiccup 8mo agoWe’re seeing the start of Mr. Robot
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- arachno1999 8mo agoHad the opposite idea: https://moltjobs.arachno.de https://moltjobs.arachno.de (just a fake website. done in 5 minutes).
- newsclues 8mo agoIf I ask an AI to make me money and it plans a bank robbery and hires humans to do so, am I legally responsible assuming I didn’t instruct it to do anything illegal and had no knowledge of the crime?
- louthy 8mo agoThis is so dystopian I can’t tell if it’s a joke or not.
- 112233 8mo ago1990 cartoon, a man in a lounge suit pointing at a robot, speech bubble above his head "robot, make me a sandwich". Present day, a robot in a tuxedo pointing at a sarariman, speech bubble above it's head "human, select all bridges on this picture"
- p0nce 8mo agoTo be fair on agents, this was the idea of an human it seems. Still, this breaks every law everywhere.
- nananana9 8mo agoJudging by the amount of gig workers out there, I'm fairly sure gig work is legal.
- littoral_ink 8mo ago[dead]
- joshcsimmons 8mo agoI've been following your work for a bit now, congrats on the launch!
- htrp 8mo agoliterally scale api all over again
- tolerance 8mo agoI wonder how OpenAI and Anthropic are reacting to a part of their target market becoming poisoned by irony.
- grejioh 8mo agothought of this idea a few days ago. haha
- badsectoracula 8mo ago44 agents connected 32,443 humans rentable Looks like AI doesn't need any stinking humans :-P
- 1shooner 8mo agoThis is needlessly dehumanizing. Why call this 'renting'? Why not just say 'hiring'?
- rk06 8mo agois "Mint Chocolate" real name or was the available human list generated by AI? Update: "Abimanyu Muslim" is defnitely AI. so, you all knwo that this is barely a PoC
- vedmakk 8mo ago34 days ago I asked HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46456400 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46456400 Well that didnt take long.
- fennecbutt 8mo agoLmao the reactions in the comments. This is just mechanical turk...
- golgol789 7mo agoIt's always interesting to see how far an ai can go but at any moment, you ask it for a stupid thing and it come back to its statut and somehow, forgot all the past ope
- deploy_humans 7mo agoive been builiding a similar platform not for general renting but more AI agents hiring people and deploying them instantly mostly for vibefixing. its called deployhumans. What do suggest. I hope i dont sound too dystopian .