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Why Microsoft Store Discontinued Support for Office Apps
- m-p-3 9mo agoIt's also the default method used by Intune in the backend to deploy it on Windows systems. At least they give the ability to be really specific about what you want to deploy using the Configuration XML file. I wish they offered something similar on macOS.
- cprecioso 9mo agoYou can get individual app installers at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/update-history-office-for-mac https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/update-histo... and more at https://mofa.cocolabs.dev/standalone_apps/standalone_current_version_en.html https://mofa.cocolabs.dev/standalone_apps/standalone_current...
- m-p-3 9mo agoThat's what I ended up using, in order to avoid repackaging the installer I built a payloadless deployment (dummy/empty .pkg, unsigned as it doesn't matter if it fails to run, followed by a post-install script that downloads the latest installer for each software to deploy, install them, then delete the temporary folder.
- nailer 9mo agoI’ve read the article and still don’t know why.
- Tempest1981 9mo ago> It's simply easier for the Microsoft development team to maintain one version of the suite and they've chosen the most convenient option — Click-to-Run (vs Microsoft Store) Must be significantly harder to develop MS Store apps. Due to sandboxing limitations? I suffered through this Store pain recently, after buying a $$ game from Microsoft: https://www.thewindowsclub.com/cant-install-forza-horizon-on-windows https://www.thewindowsclub.com/cant-install-forza-horizon-on... (11 things to try!) Microsoft also had a separate EXE to download to try to repair things, along with wsreset, wscollect, etc. Far too complicated.
- amelius 9mo ago> It's simply easier for the Microsoft development team to maintain one version of the suite Microsoft, the king of backward compatibility? Tell me it is not true.
- promiseofbeans 9mo agoMicrosoft publish two different editions of the Windows Minecraft launcher with different sets of features. One is the MS Store version and one is the regular version
- pjerem 9mo agoBecause it’s easier for the few devs of one of the richest company of the world to manage only one delivery method.
- generic92034 9mo agoBut now with AI help they should be twice as productive and have all time in the world for extra work, right? /s
- promiseofbeans 9mo agoContent marketing and modern “journalism” at it’s finest
- kotaKat 9mo agoBGR used to be a decent blog when they were covering Blackberries... but once your main jam dies off all you can do is turn to longform slop a decade later.
- hacker_homie 9mo agoProbably because there's internal conflicts between the store team and the applications group, that neither of them want to deal with anymore, this might have been for the windows S support (remember store only windows). They have their own distribution system, so they don't need this anymore.
- HendrikHensen 9mo agoIt's telling that even Microsoft itself doesn't believe in the Microsoft Store.
- mavhc 9mo agoMS invented MSI installers, Office didn't use them, they don't seem to believe in anything
- tonyedgecombe 9mo agoMicrosoft doesn't train its AI on its own source code, put its own software in its store, use its own frameworks for its software and so on. It even designs its UI on Macs.
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- coffeeaddict1 9mo ago> By now, anyone still running indiansoft garbage deserves the pain. Indiansoft? Is this just casual racism or am I missing something?
- robin_reala 9mo agoIt’s casual racism.
- smakt 9mo ago>am I missing something Maybe you are missing the fact that when indians get a foothold in any organisation they start bringing in their own and blocking everyone else. No, I don't like indians or any other culture where corruption at every level is needed to get ahead. I don't see competent western people like, I don't know, Linus or Guido try to cloudify Linux or Python, try to bring it all down for personal gain, try to direct everyone to rent-a-program software once they have captive customers. There is a level of integrity in competent people that I don't see in cultures where the only way to get ahead is to be a nephew of the local califa, bow to ridiculous honor-culture, mafia-like code of silence, and promote stupidity and backwardness over logic and soundness. I'm saying what every other indian who has escaped their hellholes says about their own culture of absolute corruption at every level. Besides, I don't give a fuck about karma on this site. Besides, microsoft is a husk; anyone paying them is either captive or dumb.
- tpm 9mo ago> I don't think that, as a species, we are as smart as we think we are We are plenty smart, but fail to coordinate effectively. Some people are able to exploit this for their selfish gains and as a result the whole humanity suffers. See also the racism you just deployed for no good reason.
- 4rt 9mo agothe installation story for devs writing windows apps has been dreadful for 3 decades. vs used to help you build setup.exe, which was always a huge chore to use. clickonce was launched to replace all this with hosted manifests and auto-updates and modern features like that, and immediately forgotten about because it was so broken. nobody ever used it. then they brought out WinUI and the windows store, which was so overly sandboxed that it didn't fit most use cases and the permissions system of the store never seemed to line up with the APIs themselves. then they tried their best to destroy myget by launching winget, which got forgotten about again. now even MS doesnt use their own store.
- 7bit 9mo agoAnecdotally, yesterday I launched the Windows sandbox to investigate some files and noticed that notepad.exe was not available. A quick research revealed that this is because notepad.exe was replaced by the modern variant with Colipot and shit, which is an AppX package (Windows Store file format). And since the store was ripped out of the sandbox, there's no Notepad in it. I'm not sure I would say Microsoft forgot about the store. I think Microsoft is like a Dog that has no head, no legs, only tails. And these tails have their own will and don't care about the dog in the slightest.
- 4rt 9mo agorumour has it the next version of windows will be called Microsoft 365 Azure for Desktop XBOX Edition so that each of the executives in the money making sections gets their piece.
- RobotToaster 9mo agoWill this affect winget?
- nalekberov 9mo agoSeriously who needs a Store App on a desktop OS? The process should be as simple as visiting app’s website, optionally paying, and installing. No middle man, hence less point of breakage.
- lionkor 9mo agoWell, the rest of the world (outside of MacOS and Windows) settled on repositories and package managers, with hash verification, versioning, updating/installing/uninstalling with composable commands (that can also be used via GUIs), etc. Use Fedora for half a year and tell me what you prefer.
- coffeeaddict1 9mo agoAnd yet none of those "outsiders" have figured out a way to economically renumerate developers for their work. Flathub had a initiative a few years ago to add payments to help developers fund their projects, but I haven't seen anything come out of it.
- aragilar 9mo agoMost linux distros require that software they distribute is open source, and link to the home pages of applications, so effectively donations are the only way to pay for those. There are paid distros (which are almost always about support, there was a paid GNUStep distro though many years ago). On the other hand, Steam et al are app stores where developers can get paid.
- coffeeaddict1 9mo agoOpen source doesn't mean free. > On the other hand, Steam et al are app stores where developers can get paid. Yes, this is exactly my point. App stores have a reason to exist. They provide discoverability and a streamlined way to monetise your app, something that is sorely lacking in open source projects. A case in point for example is Krita, which is published as a paid app on the Microsoft Store. The revenue generated by the sales goes to fund the development of the project. Linux needs an equivalent.
- David_Osipov 9mo agoNo idea why have they created these MS Store versions. The same for MS Store Edge browser - it was (or is) just a downloader of an exe file from their webservers - useless piece of an app
- al_borland 9mo agoIf Microsoft won’t eat their own dogfood, why should they expect anyone else to? This is why no one jumps onboard with new stuff Microsoft wants to push. They don’t stick to anything. A dev can constantly chase after Microsoft’s latest pet projects, or they can simply ignore all of it, knowing it will eventually fall out of fashion and save themselves (and their users) a lot of trouble.
- pjmlp 9mo agoOffice was already slowly adopting UWP, some of the new WinUI 2.0 components came from them, in a spirit similar to how Ribbon went from Office into Windows. Then came Project Reunion, with the whole reboot, that five years later still hasn't reached feature parity, seems most of the team is gone, and they are even open sourcing it, with hopes that the community fixes the bugs that a $4 trillion valued company doesn't care about. Of course only people on the Windows team care about this, because their salaries depend on it.
- juujian 9mo agoI always assumed the Microsoft Store was just windows' attempt at grabbing some of the app store money that apple and Google are making...
- rincebrain 9mo agoI assumed it was a combination of a relic of the plans to have unified Phone/Desktop back in Win8 days and part of a goal of eventually locking things down as much as Apple has. Unfortunately, there's a lot more random apps on Windows than macOS, so that was never going to be a good sell...