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Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives
- reynaldi 1y agoIgnoring the Spain block for a while, I wonder how/why these piracy sites use Cloudflare. Are they using something like R2 or Stream? This means someone still has to pay for it, right?
- andrepd 1y agoVery telling how the article ends with a snippet about how the previous season had record-breaking revenues and how La Liga is one of the most profitable sports competitions in the world. It is never enough.
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- refulgentis 1y agoIt's bad to steal things and we should try to prevent it. (I'm generally pro-piracy and don't know the details here, but am also old enough for "the people like MONEY" to not be a particularly noteworthy quality. The things that jump out to me here are A) is Cloudflare's attempted implication that they just need a better injunction true? B) The sophomoric argument that "people will die due to this" is my "people like MONEY" smell)
- budududuroiu 1y agoI’m gonna argue that piracy is the only thing keeping platforms somewhat in check to not get completely enshittified. I stopped pirating stuff when content platforms gave a compelling easy to use product, I’m back to pirating because it’s genuinely a better product compared to the endless hoops you have to jump through to use streaming services
- madars 1y agoThis comic is evergreen https://i.redd.it/d3423w2g5ur21.jpg https://i.redd.it/d3423w2g5ur21.jpg (source: https://old.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/bcdlbf/hello_old_friend_oc/ https://old.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/bcdlbf/hello_old_fr...)
- refulgentis 1y agoEnshittification is when there's multiple choices? Isn't it, quite literally, the opposite?
- hakfoo 1y agoYou don't have multiple choices. The appeal of Peak Netflix was that it had everything in one place with reasonably working discovery mechanisms. You could pay $10 or so per month and be satisfied. The current streaming era is "if you want to see all your favourite shows, it will cost $60 per month and you'll have to bounce around among 12 apps to find what you want." If we had a mandatory-licensing regime, I'd expect multiple choices would work great. Services couldn't survive on "Only we have The Office/Game of Thrones/Bluey" alone and would have to differentiate based on other factors like "best discovery tools" or "built to better suit your specific devices"
- refulgentis 1y ago> You don't have multiple choices. The comic depicts "Netflix" -> "Netflix Amazon Apple Disney+ Hulu YouTube", and you later implicitly say there are multiple choices, but, you don't think it works well. "If we had a mandatory-licensing regime, I'd expect multiple choices would work great." > Services couldn't survive on "Only we have The Office/Game of Thrones/Bluey" alone and would have to differentiate based on other factors like "best discovery tools" or "built to better suit your specific devices" I'm not sure how either of those are differentiators for people selling content, rather than people coding apps. Let's avoid that simple argument. Let us instead assume mandatory licensing exists, which I presume means that as soon as content is released, it is a right to be able to license it, i.e. pay the content creator to have it on your service. I have a hard time understanding how that would lead to all content being on all services - surely, this adds up to some finite sum, but is that finite sum enough to mean its trivial to license everything, so there's no differentiator anymore? And that's before we bring in that, presumably, we have some shared understanding that it's more expensive to license, say, Bluey Game of Thrones Edition, than, idk, hmmm...Karate Kid. Let's set all those little things aside. A screen is a piece of glass with pixels behind. A video takes up the pixels. Is there room to "build to better suit your specific devices"? Can we avoid an example that ends up creating exclusive content in the process? Let's set that aside: what are discovery tools? Are they differentiable? Or does it boil down to "a way of presenting N choices I might like"?
- zoeysmithe 1y agoMy words and art are constantly being stolen and mined for AI. People being stolen from most likely aren't going to advocate for the class stealing from them. Capitalism has one rule to wit: an in-group that is not bound but protected by the law and an out-group that is bound by but not protected by the law. As a working class person if you 'pirate' materials you could be facing fines or even jail time. If the capital owning class wants your IP, they'll just take it.
- ryandrake 1y agoThe people running these companies don’t know what “enough” even means. They have no concept of it.
- padraigfl 1y agoFootball leagues are in a bit of a weird position here where one league (English) being drastically stronger in pure monetary terms than the rest means the others can't really let up. Similarly there's quite a lot of push from the most powerful teams in some of these leagues to break off and form a European Super League; with Spain's two biggest teams being the biggest backers of the project. ETA: not agreeing with how aggressive they are exactly, but do think long term they're probably in a lot of trouble if/when money starts to properly force a European Super League into existence.
- Zealotux 1y agoI live in Spain, while I find the whole "life-threatening" narrative a tad overblown: I agree these obnoxious blocks are unacceptable. Incredible how much power LaLiga is capable of wielding.
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- 6510 1y agoThey can still do emergency broadcasts, if elon approves.
- ethbr1 1y agoThe fact that it's stupid doesn't make it untrue. Under-resourced public sector entities often reach for the easiest solutions: Facebook and Twitter. Consequently, those channels are a major portion of their disaster communication plans. If services don't want to assume the responsibilities of being critical utilities, then they shouldn't work so hard to establish monopolies.
- foobarchu 1y agoIn this case cloud flare is clearly willing to be the responsible party and has acknowledged that blocking them instead of requesting takedowns is the issue. Who are you chastising?
- ethbr1 1y agoThe post I was replying to > It reminds me of when they fear mongered about lives being at risk when twitter was down Where, yes, Twitter and Facebook and Cloudflare do have responsibilities to the public.
- lnxg33k1 1y agoAlso Serie A, in Italy we had people losing everything this winter due to floods, and clubs were still trying to not postpone matches, it's so crap that there are so many people following football
- blibble 1y agosounds like centralising most of the the internet behind a single easy target (Cloudflare) is a bad idea
- 77pt77 1y agoAll systems seem to converge to these monopolies. Google, X, Facebook, Cloudflare. All minor player are absorbed or eliminated.
- brookst 1y agoClassic economies of scale. It’s a lot more efficient for one company to make one million services of lemonade than it is for one million people to make one serving each. Even if the homemade version is “better”.
- shermantanktop 1y agoThis is what happens when everyone is incented to trade low-probability risk for short-term profits. Because who would bet that a giant CDN would be blocked like this?
- okanat 1y agoIt is the result of lack of regulation. They are all allowed to buy their competition.
- yoyohello13 1y agoI think we are partially to blame for this too though. For the last 10-20 years the whole goal of a founder was to grow a business, get acquired then exit. If founders instead focused on building a sustainable business maybe we would have a more diverse tech landscape.
- j_maffe 1y agoTo be fair, even the ones that don't want to get acquired know the bitter road ahead from the opposition aggression.
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- otterley 1y agoWhy does CloudFlare have these problems and other CDNs like CloudFront and Akamai don’t?
- jsheard 1y agoCloudFlare is free/cheap, has (AFAIK) no KYC policy, and is generally unresponsive to abuse reports unless the courts get involved, so it's the default choice for nearly all piracy sites, phishing sites, DDoS providers, etc. The few which do get kicked out of CF generally have to resort to dubious Russian CDNs because none of the other mainstream CDNs will have them.
- dankebitte 1y ago> dubious Russian CDNs Are there multiple? I thought DDoS-Guard [1] had a near-monopoly on CDN services for international piracy. [1] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/01/hamas-may-be-threat-to-8chan-qanon-online/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/01/hamas-may-be-threat-to-8...
- otterley 1y agoNo, CloudFlare is implicated as well. If you watch videos from any of the major pirate TVoD sites and inspect the traffic, you can see they're frequently using CloudFlare as their global CDN with a Chinese origin site.
- AtNightWeCode 1y agoEntire Amazon AS-numbers are sometimes blocked so CloudFront consumers have the same issue. The thing with CF is the scale. They are really big and that is why it gets noticed. When it comes to Akamai they don't have shady customers in general and the risk of a problem is less. They also have a better infrastructure.
- stackedinserter 1y agoI never watched sports but my kids want to, so tried to buy them subscription to some sport broadcaster. Bundesliga, F1, NHL and FIFA world cup, that's all I (they) needed. It turned to total mess. Service A shows F1 but not NHL. Service B shows NHL but not all NHL, only games where my city team plays. Some show LaLiga but not Bundesliga. All cost $30/mo but still show ads. Periodically they show ads instead of the event. If they can't, they split screen show the event in a little rectangle that's 25% of screen space. Dazn, TSN, ESPN are all total scam. You can see a lot of bull riding though. We cancelled all this nonsense and just moved to pirate sites. Screw this bs.
- omnee 1y agoI have done something similar too, as I wanted to watch a specific football game - Barcelona v Real Madrid - and it was available on a different streamer to the THREE that I already have. So I simply took the easier route.
- LocalH 1y agoA clear example of how piracy is really a service problem.
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- latchkey 1y agoHe's been complaining a lot about Portugal on Twitter too. https://x.com/eastdakota https://x.com/eastdakota
- bantunes 1y agoIt's really weird to vent on socials like this without specific asks. Makes him look whiny (ie https://x.com/eastdakota/status/1926750112757273065 https://x.com/eastdakota/status/1926750112757273065)
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- renewiltord 1y agoThese countries all have the same problem: older generation has sufficient power to say "we don't need immigration or jobs or anything; we're fine" while Americans who visit say "wow this place is great; such good food for so cheap!" and young people are desperate to emigrate for jobs.
- 77pt77 1y agoYour/Our masters need newer, bigger and better handouts!
- dpkirchner 1y agoI don't see anything about Portugal there, just hundreds of tweets sorted randomly.
- jsheard 1y agoX now shows logged out visitors a "greatest hits" timeline instead of a users actual timeline. You can use a proxy like xcancel to get around that without an account. https://xcancel.com/eastdakota https://xcancel.com/eastdakota
- bantunes 1y agoSeems like he was angry that he had to have his luggage checked on his private plane, like everyone else. (In Portuguese https://eco.sapo.pt/2025/05/26/ceo-da-cloudflare-tera-estado-envolvido-em-incidente-a-saida-de-tires-acusa-diretor-do-aerodromo/ https://eco.sapo.pt/2025/05/26/ceo-da-cloudflare-tera-estado...)
- koakuma-chan 1y agoFootball company has authority to block IP addresses?
- ErneX 1y agoThey got a judge order that tells ISPs to block any IP they want during games.
- bilekas 1y agoIn Spain LaLiga IS the government.
- gosub100 1y agoNFL would absolutely do the same in the US if it were against a foreign ISP or network operator.
- TheCondor 1y agoWhat’s the domestic piracy rate for NFL games? They split the rights up in much more imaginative ways, like local channels can broadcast sold out local games and then the nfl itself or an rsn or major network can broadcast the remote half. I would guess that a lot of local games are over the air but if you follow a team somewhere else you might need a fairly inexpensive subscription
- tedunangst 1y agoThe NFL streaming services are truly bizarre. You can't stream local games, based on billing address, because you're supposed to watch TV. Which means if you go on vacation, you still can't watch, because they're not on TV and not streamable with your account.
- charcircuit 1y agoIt's a taste of his own medicine. Having your entire service blocked due to a portion of it being illegal is not much different to how he personally terminated service for 8chan due to a portion of it he claimed was illegal.
- 6stringmerc 1y agoActually, this is a Cloudflare problem - simply take extra steps to ensure your clients paying for your services aren’t harmed by natural market forces. If you read between the lines, he’s claiming people will die because Cloudflare doesn’t want to take the time, effort, or money to fix the problem that they easily could by creating a separate system for critical services. This type of “tech hypochondria” should be absolutely dragged at every opportunity. This guy runs a business and whines that his clients don’t deserve what his business agrees to provide? FOH with that ish mang I ain’t buying it.
- kmeisthax 1y agoThe "tech hypochondria" is downstream of tech's particularly warped understanding of free speech: i.e. "censorship is when packet loss". If you define censorship as packet loss, then anything that drops packets is inherently evil, and your business (which ultimately boils down to sending packets along) is inherently good. Ergo anything you do is good and anything that questions or checks your power is evil. This understanding of free speech didn't evolve in a vaccum, though. It was a response to the "copyright hypochondria" of the publishing industry outfits that have been insisting that "censorship is when free movies". One of the most irritating tenets of copyright maximalism is the idea that copyright somehow backstops free speech, because having an economic incentive to publish is supposed to make politicians think twice[0] about stupid censorship bullshit? So we have two industries here that have both psyopped themselves into thinking their profit margins are a moral good, unwilling to compromise in any way that would allow legal websites to remain online. Or at least I'm assuming both sides are unwilling to compromise, because La Liga isn't saying anything, and Cloudflare is going to the public rather than the actual courts imposing this blocking order. [0] The logic doesn't logic here, this is the same kind of thinking that gave us "capitalism has won" in the 1990s and "military alliances will make war impossible" a century prior. Politicians are ultimately polite brokers of violence, and economics is a tool they impose upon us to make us do things in lieu of guns to head. Not the other way around. Politicians will happily censor economically valuable art all day long. I'm tempted to say "the master's tools can't destroy the master's house", but that saying is complete bullshit for different reasons.
- vessenes 1y agoI was unaware of this controversy so in brief: 1. La Liga (Spanish Football) finds pirates streaming their games objectionable 2. They notice that many of these streamers use Cloudflare for something, presumably CDN and load balancing. 3. They appear in court in Spain and get an ex-parte TRO blocking all Cloudflare IPs. (Ex parte TRO: restraining order granted without Cloudflare being summoned to court) 4. Based on this, they tell ISPs to block pretty much all of Cloudflare in Spain. 5. Cloudflare goes public in frustration, noting that they could just send take down requests for infringing content like every other rights holder in the world, and that many Spanish utilities and civil resources use Cloudflare. Interesting. My gut is that it’s hard to beat La Liga on their home turf, as evidenced by not even being invited to the court hearings which shut you down across all of Spain. Long term, I’d guess CF wins this one? Probably they will have to escalate in some way to Eurozone courts, although I have no idea how this might work. No cloud business could meet the standard put forward by La Liga; but also there are only so many CDN companies. Meantime I guess illegal streamers can move to Google and see which legal group wins that battle.
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- moffkalast 1y agoThe EU should be sanctioning Spain the same way we're sanctioning Hungary for this sort of authoritarian behaviour. What's next, they're banning Google cause pirates use it to search for streams? I don't know how this doesn't count as a net neutrality violation.
- globie 1y agoOf course it could claim lives. Hopefully Prince has considered people have also likely died as a result of Cloudflare's repeating captcha which holds the next page in front of you like a carrot on a stick, never letting you know that you will be clicking that box forever. I'm sure while someone's in the process of keeling over is the perfect time to arbitrarily scrutinize their connecting details. You need to contact your doctor ASAP. Okay, but did you neighbor have a virus last week? Is your neighborhood in your city more "problematic" than average? You may have forgot to check these details before you fell ill. Cloudflare sites should come with a big banner warning all users their connection will be arbitrarily approved by an algorithm with chilling effects built in as dark patterns. Last I checked, Cloudflare does basically no educating of customers how badly their website will be broken for users arbitrarily when they don't use the ISP or browser Cloudflare likes. No explanation for how many customers you will lose when your website can't be visited by someone who doesn't know how to change their IP, no explanation that if you're offering a critical service then Cloudflare will give that service thousands of tiny downtimes left unknown, the screams too quiet to carry the weight of a tech CEO worried about something similar.
- spacebanana7 1y agoWhat’s the alternative solution? We also don’t want to have critical services DDoS’d or spammed.
- globie 1y agoSimple: Connect larger NICs and do "dumb" DDoS filtering at your fattest point. Consider an HTTP daemon serving static content on a physical server. If that physical server has a 10Gig NIC it will withstand 90%[0] of the real-world DDoS attacks which would affect the same server with a 1Gig NIC. "Dumb" DDoS filtering means blocking UDP and SYN floods, and other simple attacks. Your goal is essentially to block traffic which could be spoofed, making your downstream traffic somewhat attributable. Many ISPs provide functions like this, and is not nearly as complicated or invasive as letting Cloudflare MITM every bit of your traffic. Any effort past that point should just be made in caching static assets, and optimizing dynamic pages. If your website uses sessions, you can implement basic rate controls very easily. No WAF required! [0]: I made it up
- pier25 1y agoHere's the actual tweet: https://xcancel.com/eastdakota/status/1924969551478804543 https://xcancel.com/eastdakota/status/1924969551478804543
- jorvi 1y agoI see so many people in these threads always complain about Cloudflare or Google CAPTCHA loops.. but even when using Private Internet Access (one of the most abused VPNs), I rarely if ever got on a full-on loop. Maybe Google CAPTCHA made me solve 3 things instead of one. Cloudflare is always just a checkbox. And I have my Brave and Firefox profiles hardened. I'm not saying you aren't experiencing this, but I am curious: what is your setup that Cloudflare and Google treat you with such suspicion / hostility?
- candiddevmike 1y agoIncognito mode with ad blockers triggers it for me
- Filligree 1y agoNothing unusual here; just Safari on OSX, with an ad blocker. CAPTCHA loops happen all the time, to the point that I try to avoid Cloudflare-served websites.
- mac-mc 1y agoIt's because you have previous cookies/state in your browser that you got from non-VPN addresses, which adds to your trust score. Do it with a clean browser with AdBlock and many, many things block you. If you don't clear your state or keep its original origin VPN only, you're breaking a big point of using VPNs.
- jorvi 1y agoBrave uses Forgetful Browsing, nuking all stateful site data after a tab close. I have Firefox configured to do the same via the Cookie Autodelete extension.
- MallocVoidstar 1y agoI use Firefox Focus on Android (wipes its cookies on close) + Mullvad and Cloudflare captchas don't even make me solve anything, just tap on them and they let me through.
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- vvpan 1y agoI am somehow out of the loop about why Cloudflare is as big as it is? There are many other CDNs, why them?
- wbl 1y agoCloudflare is very easy for small sites to use. The enterprise market is where the competition is.
- speedgoose 1y agoDescent free tier, not restricted to enterprise customers, many features, good overall quality.
- SXX 1y agoFree tier that let you hide your server IPs, cheap domain registry (with no margin) and even some also tunnels for zero trust. Like I used them for a lot of personal and tbh even commercial projects for years paying them $0. Also they have bandidth alliance with Backblaze so you can serve 100s of TBs for free. So there a lot of convinience and free stuff. It's quite obviously that when I had commercial customers where for whatever reason free tier wasn't anough I juse used them as well. Why not? There are horror stories about their corporate pricing, but for smaller company paying $20-200 for CDN is no brainer. Also huge massive advantage of CloudFlare is that majority of their services are not metered so it's hard to wake up to $100,000 bill like it can happen with AWS and almost any other CDN provider. I still believe this kind of centralized MiTM is bad for us all, but honestly I'd rather it be CloudFlare than Amazon, Microsoft or some other "evil corp".
- vvpan 1y agoThanks for the thorough write-up. I am also conflicted that somebody has so much power in the market but at least they are not AWS/GCP.
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- jonhohle 1y agoI was always unsure about cloudflare as an end user - I don’t want all my traffic going through one provider, but their business use case seemed reasonable. Then my in-laws got tricked into sending login credentials to a phishing page fronted by cloudflare. It was obviously spoofing IDP logins of Yahoo, Microsoft, etc. I sent a request assuming they would disable the domain and it was immediately closed (in minutes) as not an issue. It made no sense that they would want to front phishing sites. I eventually got them to look more closely and it was removed, but it soured my perception of them. I think large scale internet businesses may need to start having more liability in matters like this. Being blocked from an entire country seems extreme, but if there are financial incentives to solve the problem, the problem will get solved.
- SoftTalker 1y agoAuto-closing an issue and waiting to see if there is followup is probably a decent filter for real complaints. Like you, a person with a legitimate concern will persist, at least for a while.
- Ekaros 1y agoMaybe they should separate vetted services behind different IP ranges. Or even company. And put in place massive financial penalties for those services if for any reason because of them they have to block traffic.
- tbrownaw 1y agoI seem to recall news a while back about how cloudflare was very deliberately making it impossible to block only some things they provide, specifically for the purpose of causing any blocks to have enough blast radius to cause popular outrage. At the time it was presented in terms of fighting back against political censorship.
- mvdtnz 1y agoThis is the second time I have seen an article on this topic that talks about "LaLiga" without ever defining it. As if ordinary people outside of Europe are expected to know what LaLiga is.
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- KaiserPro 1y agoSo on the one hand I am sympathetic. On the otherhand, I'm also pretty sure cloudflare won't take down pirated stuff, so what do they expect? I don't like the way that large football conglomerates abuse copyright, but then those same rules _should_ be open to me for anything I produce. The main difference is I don't have a team of lawyers.
- Fokamul 1y agoThis goes to Spain government (Nazi-like behavior has long tradition there) and Spain citizens letting laws, which allows this, to pass. Because same law was or will be used to block opposition, etc. Of course, that similar organizations (paid by huge copyright companies) tried the same in my country. And luckily our government listens to local experts (NIC.cz and others) and not to mention, pirating has big tradition here. So they failed to pass this ridiculous law. (blocking IP addresses)
- jedberg 1y agoHow come no one is mentioning the obvious solution -- LaLiga needs to make their product as easy to access as piracy. If they offered worldwide streaming of the matches available on an easy interface at a reasonable price, then none of this would be a problem. Piracy is almost never about the price -- it's almost always about the availability. Especially when it comes to live sports.
- pixelesque 1y agoI suspect it's not quite that easy: it's likely similar to the situation with the Premier League in the UK (and other things like Formula 1 previously) where a particular broadcaster has been given exclusive distribution rights, and has paid a lot of money for those rights (which in theory go back into the game and pay for the huge salaries of players).
- JambalayaJimbo 1y agoThis solution clearly does not actually work. Musicians make pittances off of streaming in comparison to the money they made with physical media. Hollywood has seen strikes and streaming services continually raise prices.
- jedberg 1y agoWith piracy they make nothing, so they'd still make more than they make today. Almost all of the pirates are people trying to watch from outside the coverage area. It's not like stopping piracy gets those people to pay. They just stop watching.
- razakel 1y agoMusicians make very little off physical media - it's merchandise that brings the money in.
- tough 1y agoThey also did it to Vercel. Paella and sol heh, not CDN's
- SXX 1y agoMany will disagree here, but I really respect Cloudflare fight against government-enabled censorship and abuse of power by anti-piracy whatever. Yes, sometimes CloudFlare used for some actually bad stuff, but same can be said for any cloud service. Having major internet infrastructure provider react to every whim of every single government in the world is not a good idea.
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- phoronixrly 1y agoThey aren't really fighting against censorship and especially anti-piracy censorship. If they were, they'd refuse to take down sites. Instead they've a streamlined process for just that purpose, and are only fighting because they have been censored, affecting their bottom line.
- SXX 1y agoMight be something have changed recently, but CloudFlare is kind a infamous for not taking down some questionable services. At the same time companies like Apple and Microsoft still continue to censor stuff on requests from Russia where they supposedly not operate.
- hashstring 1y agoThank you, this is the truth. Cloudflare does not fight censorship. It actively helps create it. They have a strong team that delivers great products, but at the end of the day, it’s a for-profit company with as much for-profit morals that exist. Lookup Tor project problems and CrimeFlare. Cheers. https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/18361#note_2629333 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-...
- SoftTalker 1y agoPiracy only flourishes when the content is priced too high. Most people don't want to bother, pirate streams tend to be glitchy, low quality, and unreliable. But they will if they feel they are being bent over a barrel. Drop the price and most people will pay it. I.e. make it easy for people to do it the right way.
- carlosbaraza 1y agoI live in Spain and my ISP is Digi, which uses the network from Telefonica. These blocks are incredibly frustrating, and a ton of people have noticed websites and services not working. However, because the block lasts some hours, people don't know what is happening: "is my mobile network bad?", "Is the website down?". They try a few hours later and it's back up, so they move on. My company's website is behind Cloudflare and I discovered this whole situation because someone couldn't access it. Also my home assistant is not accessible from the internet the days with a match. And we use it to open the garage and the house. We learned the lesson the hard way being locked outside until I managed to connect with a VPN. This is just nuts and incredibly frustrating. And for La Liga we are just a bunch of "frikis" (nerds) complaining about it... because we are the only ones that understand what the problem is. Unfortunately, someone would have to die and a lawsuit to follow, and maybe that could stop this crazy nonsense. E.g. A few days ago I read about someone with diabetes whose device was malfunctioning because of these blocks.
- sionisrecur 1y agoAnd then the Spanish high sea robbers will just find other routes while the regular people will keep wondering why their bank doesn't work.
- vvillena 1y agoThis is literally the case. Pirated streams keep working, while a good chunk of the internet is rendered inoperative during weekends.
- renatovico 1y agoI live in Spain and love LaLiga games, but I dislike the executives. There's no straightforward way to stream all matches. The Cloudflare/piracy issue is the lack of clear streaming options. Even with DAZN, Movistar Plus, and TVBar, none offer complete coverage.
- pyb 1y agoThe crux of the matter is that Cloudflare keep providing their protection service to huge piracy sites, for instance archive.is
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- neom 1y agoSometimes I wonder if people know who Matthew Prince is... Matthew is not someone you want to fight with.
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- sinuhe69 1y agoI wonder why the site owners and the users who are affected by such broad and indiscriminate blocking will not sue LaLiga AND the judges for damages and violation of freedom of speech?
- lifestyleguru 1y agoFootball is the cancer on European societies and economies. From low level hooligans literally bullying and beating children, to high level infuence on the broadcasting infrastructure. Sell it all to Saudis for billions of trillions and ship the football stadiums overseas as a bonus.
- computerthings 1y ago[dead]