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UniFi U7 Pro
- whycombagator 3y ago2x2 MIMO? The U6 pro and LR have 4x4.
- blindriver 3y agoAs a Unifi home user, they don't even have a reasonable WIFI 6E product, so there's little chance I'm going to early adopt anything like WIFI 7 from them.
- cced 3y agoWhat’s the issue with their 6E offerings?
- blindriver 3y agoTheir only WIFI 6E product is their "Enterprise" product, which is overpriced for home use. Everything else is WIFI 6
- warkdarrior 3y agoWhat's wrong with U6 Enterprise? It supports 6E just fine AFAIK.
- blindriver 3y ago$279 and can connect up to 600 devices, I only have ~40 devices. I don't need an enterprise version.
- maineldc 3y agoAt the time I looked I couldn't find a Wifi 6E Access Point significantly cheaper than $279. Have you?
- treffer 3y agoTotolink X5000R. 50-70€. OpenWRT support. Wifi 6e on 2.4 & 5 GHz Bands.
- strongpigeon 3y agoI think this one is only Wifi 6, not 6e (i.e.: the 6 GHz band)
- treffer 3y agoRight. Always forget about that. 6GHz licensing in Europe is bad / late. So we didn't get to enjoy the 6e fun here :-/ But I can highly recommend to get Wifi 6 on the 2.4 GHz Band, too. I've finally gotten usable 2.4GHz again as that band was stuck on Wifi 4 (Wifi 5 (ac) was a 5Ghz improvement only).
- rekoil 3y agoBut WiFi 6E is approved in Europe? I'm in Sweden and my U6-Enterprise is perfectly happy broadcasting in the 6GHz bands without any region hacks.
- treffer 3y agoThere is a nice world map. Yes, the lower part of the 6GHz spectrum is enbaled. So only parts if it. No outdoor use unless power is capped massively
- rekoil 3y agoAh, didn't know that. Is there a plan to enable more of it or has the EU already allocated 6 GHz to some other use?
- treffer 3y agoWifi.org says it's under consideration. But I wouldn't wait for it to happen. Due to all of that I mostly ignored the 6GHz wifi stuff.... So interesting to hear it's working for you. That's the first time I hear someone from Europe say it's working for them.
- rekoil 3y agoMore than fine, the U6-Enterprise is an amazing device, but it's pretty expensive, the U7-Pro is actually cheaper (but has 3x 2x2 radios compared to the Enterprise which has 2x2/4x4/4x4 radios, 2.4/5/6 GHz respectively). The U7-Pro should be a better choice for most home users.
- conradev 3y agoIf someone has the latest MacBook Pro as the only client on their AP (https://support.apple.com/en-euro/guide/deployment/dep2ac3e3b51/web https://support.apple.com/en-euro/guide/deployment/dep2ac3e3...), is the U7 Pro going to use the same channel configuration in 6 GHz as the U6 Enterprise? Does that 4x4 kick in for a single device? The terminology is confusing because there is both the number of streams and their width
- mikepurvis 3y agoAs another Unifi home user I've seen little reason to move beyond the 802.11n offerings.
- doublepg23 3y agoWhat kind of performance do you get? I have little reason to move to 6/6E from Wifi 5/ac Wave 2 but surely N is a little long in the tooth?
- mikepurvis 3y agoMy work computer and the PS4/firetv/etc are all wired anyway. So it's basically just a few phones and lightly-used laptops, none of which are doing anything particularly intense— at most pulling a 1080p Netflix stream. When my partner was doing Twitch, she was also wired. At the end of the day my home internet is only 100/30, so it just seems silly to upgrade everything for slightly more bandwidth and maybe a bit better stability/recovery/utilization.
- theshrike79 3y agoWait, we're at WiFi 7 already? I missed the WiFi 6 boat then =) Still running a 5+ year old UAP AC Pro and haven't found it limiting in the least. Do people really need insane WiFi speeds?
- wicktron 3y agoIn my environment, it's not the insane WiFi speeds that have been impactful, it's managing density more easily. MU-MIMO and OFDMA have been game changers in that respect.
- FfejL 3y agoI use Ubiquiti throughout my 90+ year old home, with multiple AC Pros. During the heart of the pandemic I had four people in my house, all Zoom'ing or streaming video at the same time, all on WiFi, with no issues. I don't really know why I would need anything newer.
- colechristensen 3y agoI have a local streaming server with ripped bluerays and such and a truenas fileserver and I do ML things (downloaded a 32 GB model yesterday), so more speed is always helpful, especially in a crowded wifi apartment building.
- evilmonkey19 3y agoLiterally, the default router from the operator and it works flawlessly at home. It has several years that model, it works with HFC and literally has WiFi6. To me it looks the same model as 10 years ago. Why should i change it? I'm with you.
- orev 3y agoThere are other uses for WiFi than a home. Office buildings, stadiums, theaters, stores, etc. all often have WiFi available and more people using it. Newer/better WiFi versions are targeted for those kinds of uses.
- fomine3 3y agoI'm curious about this. I need faster Wi-Fi for wireless VR, but I don't know would average home user need more speed. For crowded space, more capacity is needed.
- genmud 3y agoI wish they would get their shit together and have software that isn't buggy / riddled with security issues. Their march to a cloud dependent offering is so disappointing.
- amluto 3y agoTheir system is not particularly dependent on the cloud right now. I do wish they had a modern cloud key that didn’t run as absurdly hot at the gen 2.
- Our_Benefactors 3y agoRPI is a popular solution for unifi controller hosting. I’ve run a box with unifi+pihole continuously for about 2 years on PoE, never crashes or gives any maintenance headaches, if I do need to reboot everything always comes right up without any fuss.
- hedora 3y agoMake sure that you're running a 64-bit OS. They use MongoDB for the unifi controller, and it simply disables the write ahead log on 32-bit Linux. This means it'll corrupt itself on crash.
- DrAwdeOccarim 3y agoI’ve had two die and then I read using an SSD helps a lot with the heat issue. Replaced the HDD with an SSD and temp is a cool 45C now down from high 50’s with HDD. YMMV but figured I’d add my anecdotal experience.
- jmacd 3y agoI am going to need to do that then. Mine runs hot. I have it perched up to try to get it some cooling airflow.
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- strongpigeon 3y agoI’m curious about the 2.5 Gbps interface, which isn’t even half the theoretical max of a single connection (~5.6 Gbps) and far from the theoretical AP Max (~36 Gbps). I guess they don’t have any PoE 10Gbps switches. Edit: Turns out they do have one. [0] [0] https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/products/us-xg-6poe https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/produc...
- ksec 3y agoYou should be able to get 70% of the 5.6Gbps in an ideal situation. 320Mhz Channel with 6Ghz standing in direct line of sight with no obstacle. Roughly 3.92Gbps. So while I agree with a lot of other comment you will highly unlikely push the 2.5Gbps Ethernet in real world scenario. I would still have love to see it come with 5Gbps Ethernet. Which to be fair still hasn't gotten enough attention.
- BizarroLand 3y agoThe AC Pro was Wifi 5 with a theoretical max bandwidth of 1300mbps on a 1gbps connector. I'm assuming that this speed is its ability to transfer between 2 wifi connected devices in optimal conditions and not transferring files from a NAS to a wifi receiver.
- resist_futility 3y agoXG 6 PoE, 4 ports for $600 https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/products/us-xg-6poe https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-switching/produc...
- strongpigeon 3y agoAh thanks for that. Somehow missed that one!
- gardnr 3y ago2.5 GbE can operate over CAT 5e.
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- RockRobotRock 3y agoreally hope Macbook Air M3 supports 6E at least
- doublepg23 3y agoApple loves their curveballs but the base MacBook Pro with the M3 no-adjectives does, so it seems safe to expect https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/ https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/
- RockRobotRock 3y agoYeah, they usually trickle some of the Pro features down in their next generation. I just can't justify a Pro when all I do is web browsing and remoting into servers. The Air is more than capable of light development work.
- kawsper 3y agoSeems like an easy upgrade path from our current U6-Pros. We have experienced issues where some Windows WiFi chips doesn't seem to integrate that well, and have bad performance.
- plg 3y agoAre these ceiling mounted APs suitable for a home environment where they would not be ceiling mounted? Like can I put it on a desk like I do my ancient Apple AirPort Time Capsule AP? PS the time capsule is sitting on a desk in our main floor living room and it covers basement, main floor, and all upstairs except 1 corner bedroom. It’s connected via Ethernet to a EdgeMax 4 router which has been mostly great though interface is kludgy. Some day the time capsule will give up the ghost though and then what?
- lsllc 3y agoYes, I've had one on the top of my shelves in my office for years. Only recommendation is use a shielded cable between the PoE injector and the unit -- keeps it safe during t-storms. I also have an ER4 the old UI a bit kludgey but they did revamp it a few years ago. I rarely connect to it and instead use UNMS to manage/monitor it (along with some other sites/devices). These days, I just go with the UDM-Pro SE's and if I need more than 8 PoE ports, I add on a Unifi switch via SFP. You can do pretty much everything these days in Unifi, no need for EdgeMax (well, VLANs is about as exotic as my installs get).
- orev 3y agoYes, you can place them facing up on a flat surface instead of on the ceiling.
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- JoshTriplett 3y agoUbiquity equipment always looks impressive, except that the heavy push towards cloud-based and/or app-based management is extremely offputting. I'd much rather have something I can always manage via a local web UI from any web browser, without any cloud subscription.
- rys 3y agoJust in case anyone reads the parent and the takeaway is you can’t: you can still operate UniFi that way if you want to. The cloud connection and apps are optional.
- JoshTriplett 3y agoInteresting. Did that change at some point in the past? I'd seen reports from folks suggesting that you were stuck either using the cloud management bits or using their app, and that a plain local web connection didn't work. Does Ubiquity equipment work entirely with a local web connection now, with no app or cloud, for all their functionality (except, obviously, cloud management functionality)?
- zamadatix 3y agoThe answer depends on which piece of equipment, usually by product family. More and more is getting the cloud push over time though.
- JoshTriplett 3y agoAh. That kind of variability is the kind of thing that makes me want to avoid the entire brand. Any recommendations for comparable equipment that doesn't have any kind of push towards cloud or app?
- DannyBee 3y agoIt's not even shipping with mlo support, which is a main feature of wifi7 - it's how aggregation works across different bands. Instead it will be released in a future update. Typical ubiquiti. I'm sure the date won't slip and the software won't be buggy or declared beta to dodge complaints for 100 years.
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- no_carrier 3y agoI'm happy with the performance of the UniFi APs, but their software updates constantly break, leaving me to ssh in and run update commands manually or even clear out log files. This has happened numerous times to me.
- bb88 3y agoIs this just using HN for marketing? Prove me wrong.
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- boringuser2 3y agoYou can buy a $30 used Ruckus AP from eBay made 10 years ago and it will handily outperform anything that Unifi has ever produced. I realize this may sound like an exaggeration, but it really isn't.
- zamadatix 3y agoAt 5:20 in this video https://youtu.be/7JNXghzzaZc?t=320 https://youtu.be/7JNXghzzaZc?t=320 they show it offers a 240 MHz wide channel option in the 5 GHz space. What a mess. I'd say that kinda makes sense for a AP<->AP bridge use case out in the middle of nowhere but you'd be better off using a 320 MHz channel in the 6 GHz space with this AP or an AP with more than 2x2.
- anonymousiam 3y agoDid I understand the video correctly, or is the U7 product page wrong? The video says the U7 doesn't do 6e, but the U7 product page says it does 6GHz, which implies that it does.
- zamadatix 3y agoThe video doesn't say the U7 doesn't do 6e it just poorly explains if you want a device that only does 6e there were 2 other models and then mentions the U6-Pro only did Wi-Fi 6.
- anonymousiam 3y agoI don't have any Ubiquity stuff, and I'm not sure I want any, but I have an open mind. Can anyone here answer some of my questions? 1) Is the "Cloud Gateway" required? 2) It seems that the required UnFi Network software uses a subscription pricing model. Are there other options? 3) The 2.5GbE POE ports would seem to be a bottleneck. Will they be adopting the (older) 10GbE POE standard anytime soon?
- bbatha 3y ago1. No but you do need to run the controller somewhere. It doesn't need to be run 24/7. I used to run it from a windows machine occasionally but its more convenient to have it running all the time on raspberrypi or something. 2. There is no subscription that I'm aware of 3. Good question its a question many have been asking of the U-6Pro and U-6E. Their switching hardware also has limited support for 10GbE RJ-45.
- xela79 3y agoSo their Wifi Pro 2.5GbE product requires an Enterprise Switch to be able to get 2.5 GbE https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-utility/products/switch-enterprise-8-poe https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-utility/pr... I hope they upgrade their Pro switch line-up so they are aligned.