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New Mac Mini
- blakesterz 4y agoI'd still like a few more ol' fashion USB-A ports on there. I have so many things I need to plugin to USB-A ports still. My Mini only has 2 and it's just not enough.
- duxup 4y agoI feel like now it is just a given that I’ll hook up a hub to everything. Even my thunderbolt 4 hub / dock … has another hubs for “lesser” devices.
- blakesterz 4y agoYeah, I bought one of those fancy hub/stand thing that was built for the Mini, I'd still rather have then ports built it. I got greenscreen crashes for a while any time I had it plugged in, which meant I was stuck with the built in ports.
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- samcat116 4y agoCan I ask what they are? And are they devices with removable cables where you could move some to a native USB-C cable instead of adapting?
- BonoboIO 4y agoNice upselling tactic to get 32GB of RAM ... /s
- dusted 4y agoWow, that's pretty weak. 32 GiB memory limit? In 2023 ?
- iainmerrick 4y ago"Available starting 1.24" January the 24th? January 2024? I wish the US would start writing dates in a sensible way!
- reaperducer 4y agoI wish the US would start writing dates in a sensible way! Looks like standard big-endian notation to me.
- iainmerrick 4y agoI realise you're joking, but no, not without the year. It's not even standard for the US! Did they decide "/" wasn't Apple-y enough so they had to use "."?
- otikik 4y agoThey only have 1 unit available. And the CPU of the second unit.
- bilal4hmed 4y agocan this run dual monitors?
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- endisneigh 4y agoIt has hdmi and thunderbolt so you could connect to both at a minimum most likely.
- rwalle 4y agoYes, in tech specs: https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs/ https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs/ And up to three monitors for certain models.
- wilsonnb3 4y agoAll of the Mac minis can do 2 monitors, the new M2 Pro one can do 3
- rsync 4y agoWait, what ? I am looking at the rear ports of the M2 pro and I see 4x TB4 ports and 1x HDMI ... can't this drive 5x displays ? If not, why not ?
- cmatthias 4y agoAlmost certainly. The Thunderbolt spec requires any port labeled "Thunderbolt 4" to support dual 4k/60hz displays. You'll note that, for example, on the Macbook Air (both M1 and M2 versions), Apple labels the ports "Thunderbolt / USB 4," which is confusing and IMHO downright misleading. Either way, the reason they do that is that those ports don't support dual displays, so they only meet the Thunderbolt 3 spec, which doesn't mandate dual displays. A better label for the Macbook Air might be just "USB 4," or "USB 4 with Thunderbolt 3 support" (though TB3 is part of the USB 4 spec, so that's technically redundant). USB/Thunderbolt standards are fun.
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- crypt1d 4y agodisappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.
- GeekyBear 4y ago> disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM Doesn't Microsoft still sell laptops with 4 GB of RAM?
- cmatthias 4y agoThis is whataboutism, but yes, the Surface Go 2 base model has 4GB of RAM. It's shameful, but that laptop is also half the price of the cheapest Mac laptop, and doesn't absolve either company of blame for ridiculously high memory and storage prices.
- neighbor1 4y ago> dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers This is absolutely not normal...
- apetresc 4y agoHuh? It's completely normal (on the low range of normal, I'd wager), especially in the market of people buying desktop computers in 2023.
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- JustSomeNobody 4y agoHuh? I can easily have 40 - 50 tabs open. I don't know what a discord is though.
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- frognumber 4y agoIs the RAM and SSD upgradeable? The baseline model is 8GB / 256GB, and very reasonably priced at $600. Upgrading to 24GB is a whopping $400, and to 1TB is another $400. The $700 baseline seems reasonable. $1500 for a minimum usable machine seems more than a little excessive.
- izacus 4y agoNope, soldered.
- samwillis 4y agoNope, in the same package as the CPU and GPU.
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- coder543 4y ago>>> Is the RAM and SSD upgradeable? >> Nope, soldered. > Nope, in the same package as the CPU and GPU. The SSD certainly isn't in the same package as the CPU and GPU, so your comment is simply wrong, given the question that was actually asked. Whether the RAM is on-package or not is irrelevant to the question asked further upthread. It is soldered. Neither the RAM nor the SSD can realistically be upgraded after the fact. That's the answer to the question. I don't understand the purpose of your comment.
- tadfisher 4y agoThe SSD controller is part of the SOC, so you're both half-right.
- coder543 4y agoTrue, but it is a rather lame excuse for soldering the SSD, considering Apple's SSDs have not really performed better than anyone else's SSDs for a long time. Moving the controller into the SoC is a cost saving measure for Apple, but none of the cost savings are passed onto the consumer. Something as huge as the Mac mini could easily have a regular m.2 NVMe socket. Apple could presumably still do their proprietary thing with direct NAND access through the same physical socket, while still letting you swap in your own SSD that brings its own controller... but this would interfere with their goal of profiting from crazy upgrade pricing. For Mac Studio, the NAND actually was socketed; it just used a proprietary connector instead of letting you bring your own SSD, so it still offered no aftermarket upgrade path to extend the life of these machines.
- susrev 4y agoApple is the undisputed king of never putting actual benchmarks in their info-graphs
- setgree 4y agoMy first thought for this thing is to download Linux, Steam, and all the emulators you can and you've basically got a conveniently sized and priced home theater PC that can play any video game from 1990-2010 or so
- smith7018 4y agoYou're better off buying an older Intel-based Mac Mini, then. Asahi Linux (Linux for ARM Macs) only supports OpenGL 2 atm. They'll definitely get Vulkan and later GL versions eventually but it will be awhile.
- 10xDev 4y agoJust get a steam deck and use EmuDeck.
- asdff 4y agoYou are better off getting an intel 16" mac and running bootcamp.
- rsynnott 4y agoI feel like adding the Pro makes the Studio increasingly niche.
- chazeon 4y agoSeems the differentiation factor would be RAM. Mac mini maxed out at 32 GB even with M1 Pro, where I am expecting 48 GB.
- Tepix 4y agoThe differentiation factor is expandability. But with the Mac Pro rumored to have no user expandable RAM you can only add more storage and switch GPUs and perhaps plug in that Apple ProRes accelerator card.
- ErneX 4y agoStudio M1 Max has 2x memory bandwidth of the M1/M2 Pro. And the Ultra bumps that to 4x.
- gymbeaux 4y ago$4,500 maxed out. $4,500 for a Mac mini. God. They really think people are going to pay $4,500 for a Mac mini, don't they?
- ChildOfChaos 4y agoNo, it's $599, with a load of extra customised options that allow people to add what they want, you cannot even buy this one in a store, you have to do a custom order, your regular user, walking into an electronic store will buy a base model. You've specced it up with every customisation possible, that 999.999999% of buyers won't do and won't need and then complain at the cost in an effort to bash Apple,
- gymbeaux 4y agoI'm not trying to bash Apple in bad faith, but let's be real the $599 model is inadequate. 8GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD in 2023. There's plenty out there on the M1 Mac mini's 8GB being a bad idea even for casual users. I had an 8GB M1 mini when it first came out and returned it because it was swapping to the SSD with like 3 apps open (nothing like an IDE or Docker or Adobe X Y Z). I just find it humorous that you can spend several thousand dollars on a Mac mini, Mac Pro, or Mac Studio. It seems like there's a lot of product overlap to me.
- ceejayoz 4y ago> let's be real the $599 model is inadequate For most of the folks on HN, that's probably true. We're an edge case. For my parents? A Mac mini is gonna be more than enough. There are folks happilly using Chromebooks with a tenth of the power.
- gymbeaux 4y agoBut why would you buy them a Mac mini of all things?
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- addajones 4y agoI feel you, but the laptop can be order with an M2 Max for 64gb+ of RAM. There is no M2 Max Mac mini.... M2 Pro goes up to 32gb.
- nottorp 4y agoIf the plain M2 in the Air supports up to 24 Gb, they could have let the Pro support 48... I don't need much CPU on the Mac (the arm transition forced me to get an x86 linux box in addition to it) but my ram needs are 24-30 Gb on average. 32 Gb is not future proof for my usage, 48 might have been. All they need now is to cancel the Studio and make the only option a Mac Pro starting at 6000 :)
- nottorp 4y agoOhh i just noticed. M2 Max can go to 96 instead of 64. Means the M2 Pro intentionally goes only to 32 not 48.
- qwytw 4y agoThey probably don't want it to cannibalize the Studio. Then again the price of a maxed out 32GB mini is the same as base Mac Studio (with the same amount of memory).
- nottorp 4y agoYeah, it's very murky at the intersection between high end minis and low end studios. Let's see if Apple updates the Studio to M2. I can still wait on x86 for a bit longer.
- chirau 4y agoWhatever happened to the Mac Pro line?
- jon-wood 4y agoIt’s called the Mac Studio now.
- ErneX 4y agoNot really, the Studio was more of an iMac (27inch / Pro) replacement. Mac Pros are coming.
- Tepix 4y agoIt's overdue.
- theshrike79 4y agoThe M-series doesn't have regular PCI-E or other internal expansion options so "regular" Pro line is kinda out until they solve that issue.
- ErneX 4y agoMac Pro per the rumors is definitely coming this year, probably around WWDC.
- FireBeyond 4y agoI looked at the Mac Studio, and would still like to switch from my cheesegrater, as it's obvious where things are going (and in my home office, the Pro is a heater). Although now I suspect I'm going to hold off for the M2 Studio. Apple is still doing its old tricks, though. Out of curiosity, I put my $13K Mac Pro in as a trade-in to see what it'd contribute (and to be clear, my expectations, I thought, were reasonable... was thinking $3K). 12 core Xeon, 192GB, 8TB, W5700X 16GB. $3K? No, $1,050. Ouch. Double ouch when you go to the Mac Pro store and find that exact same configuration is still being sold by Apple today for $12K.
- synergy20 4y agoAll devices should be upgrade-able and repairable by customers, we paid for it and we own it, we have the rights to change it easily. We need to enforce the right-to-repair law fast, and please sue Apple if it does not conform to it(along with its only-me and pay-me-30% apple app-store policy)
- dbbk 4y agoApple have a Self Service Repair program.
- Nextgrid 4y agoNot only is the self-service repair program a sham, but doesn't actually address the parent's point about upgradability - the repair program, if your part is actually covered by it (good luck getting individual system board components so you don't have to replace a $700 board because of a $5 blown IC) it will still be a like-for-like replacement with no upgrade.
- lvl102 4y agoWhy get the M2 Pro Mini when you can just opt for Mac Studio with M1 Max? They're roughly in the same price bracket.
- xuki 4y agoM2 Pro is faster than M1 Max for CPU bounded tasks. When they release the Mac Studio with M2 Max, it'll be faster in GPU department & have 10Gbps ethernet, more ports, probably for the same price.
- smith7018 4y agoThere's a $700 price difference but I'd say it's definitely worth it if you can swing it.
- Tepix 4y agoIf you need 32GB in your Mac Mini the price difference is $1999 for the Mac Studio vs $1699 for the Mac Mini M2 Pro 32GB. Indeed that's a tough sell for the Mac Mini. It shows how much Apple is charging extra for those capacity upgrades.
- steveBK123 4y agoFirst Mac to support 8K explicitly (in M2 Pro config)
- dukoid 4y agoThe real news here! "One display with up to 8K resolution at 60Hz or 4K resolution at 240Hz over HDMI" https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs/ https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs/
- coder543 4y agoThis also applies to the new MacBook Pros as well, to be clear.
- steveBK123 4y agoCynic in my wonders if they finally have an 8k display they are ready to sell then. The previous Macs supported so many 5k/8k display at once, they arguably should be able to drive a single 8k display, technically. Example, Mac Studio supports up to 4 x 6k displays AND 1 4k at once. So that is 4 x 18M pixels + 8M pixels = 80M pixels 8k displays are 32M pixels, so Mac Studio is arguably already able to push 2x that many pixels... Or maybe it's related to the HDMI chipset they chose specifically until now.
- coder543 4y agoNo, this seems to have nothing to do with Apple's own monitors. Apple just didn't support the proper display connection standards previously. Now they support HDMI 2.1, based on this announcement, so they're finally catching up to everyone else. It would have been dumb for them to fall further and further behind on a display connector regardless of what monitors Apple has in the pipeline.
- wyager 4y agoAnyone know if the cheap model can handle 4k60 444 10bit over HDMI? "4k 60hz" is almost meaningless without more information. There are some reddit threads where people have issues with 4k60 444 10b on the (now) previous gen mac mini. If they've fixed that, I would consider using this as an HTPC (as Otpimus and Movist are the only desktop video players I've found that seem to actually fully support HDR, my windows box isn't cutting it).
- fckgw 4y agoThe new model has been upgraded to HDMI 2.1 as opposed to HDMI 2.0 on the M1 model. Not sure if that helps or not.
- wyager 4y agoYes, thank you. 2.1 should have plenty of bandwidth, so unless there's some other limitation, it can probably handle 10 bit 444.
- FireBeyond 4y agoThat still bugs me. Apple broke DSC in the first beta of Big Sur, and it hadn't been fixed when I switched monitors about a year ago, a little less. Catalina on my cheesegrater Mac Pro would happily drive 2 4K 10-bit screens at 144Hz (via TB3) Big Sur? Not so much. Had to downgrade DSC from 1.4 to 1.2 on my monitors, and even then I could only get 120Hz at 8 bit, 95Hz at 10bit, IIRC. Still not "shabby" but annoying. Really seems like it was broken as something to do with the Pro Display XDR.
- xsc 4y agoTechnical limitation supporting quad monitors?
- highwaylights 4y agoTechnically they want more money
- dagmx 4y agoThe different SoC configurations have different display controller counts.
- mberning 4y agoAlready ordered. Been waiting a long time to get 32gb in one of these.
- ErneX 4y agoA M2 Pro Mini with a few spec bumps puts it at a similar price than a M1 Max Studio. I was waiting for the Mini refresh but now I think I'll just wait for the Studio refresh and get one with M2 Max.
- jmull 4y agoWith the Pro Mini, I wonder if the lower-end of the Studio "moves up"... $X00 more, but with an M2 not available on the mini?
- ErneX 4y agoThe Studio uses the Max and Ultra variants, so my guess is they will continue the trend. Mini = M2 and M2 Pro | Studio = M2 Max and M2 Ultra. | Mac Pro = M2 Ultra and ??? (or maybe 2x Ultra)
- jononomo 4y agoI remember the first time I heard about someone getting a 1 GB hard drive -- I was astonished. I mean, I just could not believe it. Now people are complaining about only having 8 GB of RAM, lol.
- haunter 4y ago>Dive into a multiplayer gaming session with SharePlay How many AA multiplayer games are available on Mac? Not streaming, no VM, no Wine/CrossOver. Legit playable games. I know Minecraft, WoW, Civ6, and CSGO. Probably there is more but clearly not the target of Apple and the devs either
- t3rabytes 4y agoNo Man's Sky and a Resident Evil reissue are the two big ones currently that Apple is touting.
- smoldesu 4y agoMore-or-less this generation's Tomb Raider and Monument Valley, if you ask me. It's nice that Apple reaches out to AAA developers to prove that Metal ports aren't impossible, but it's a lost cause today. No Man's Sky and Resident Evil both work out-of-box on Linux without any intervention from their developers. Apple's efforts are entirely misplaced and it's obvious that they're going against the grain of the rest of the games industry. I'd argue Apple shot themselves in the foot by depreciating 32-bit libraries as fast as they did. If they had Proton, the Macbooks could be enjoying the same surge in gaming popularity the Steam Deck has.
- nomel 4y ago> shot themselves in the foot by depreciating 32-bit libraries as fast as they did My relatively anemic "Mac compatible" list of games, in my Steam library, went from about 20 to 3.
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- CharlesW 4y ago> How many AA multiplayer games are available on Mac? Remember that all iOS games work on Macs, too. Here's a list of AAA iOS games from last year, for example. https://www.reddit.com/r/iosgaming/comments/t1iqlh/a_list_of_aaa_ios_games/ https://www.reddit.com/r/iosgaming/comments/t1iqlh/a_list_of...
- simplotek 4y agoDoes anyone know if Mac Minis integrate with Xcode to perform distributed builds? It would be superb if a small software team could expense half a dozen Mac Minis to handle the team's build jobs.
- apetresc 4y agoYup, that works.
- laweijfmvo 4y agoIs it still huge? This thing should be much smaller now.
- brk 4y agoKind of surprised to see a 10G Ethernet port as an option on these.
- jeffbee 4y agoBut it adds a month to the lead time.
- vesrah 4y agoIt was available on the Intel Mac Minis, nice to see it making a comeback.
- coder543 4y agoIt was also available on the M1 Mac Mini, just not at launch: https://9to5mac.com/2021/04/20/apple-silently-updates-m1-mac-mini-with-optional-10-gigabit-ethernet-port/ https://9to5mac.com/2021/04/20/apple-silently-updates-m1-mac...
- jeffbee 4y agoThe thing that's truly insulting is their trade-in offer for a late 2020 M1 8G/512G is only $330 vs. an eBay average selling price of over $500.
- crazygringo 4y agoResale prices on eBay have always been significantly higher than any trade-in for any product for any company -- this isn't an Apple thing. And remember that eBay charges a selling fee of 12.9%, and you have to go through all of the time and effort of photographing, listing, selling, packaging, shipping, and dealing with a (small) risk of buyer fraud. On the other hand, Apple takes it off of your hands hassle-free, risk-free, and you pay no sales tax on the trade-in value (which in NYC is 8.875%, for example). There's nothing insulting about it.
- jeffbee 4y agoWell, Apple resells the trade-in mini as a $750 refurb, so it's a pretty substantial margin they are asking for.
- crazygringo 4y agoThey also give it a brand-new housing so it looks brand new, full testing/inspection, and provide a one-year warranty. It makes sense you'll be paying more for those, none of which you get buying on eBay.
- Varloom 4y agoI can't use my M1 mini with non-retina monitor because of how blurry it is. They stopped providing font anti-aliasing (default on Windows) few years ago in MacOS to make retina displays more relevant.
- noveltyaccount 4y agoDoes this fix your issue? When I use my wife's Air on my Dell non-retina monitor, I can either have crisp but tiny text, or big and blurry. This utility perfectly solves it for me. https://github.com/waydabber/BetterDisplay https://github.com/waydabber/BetterDisplay
- tobr 4y agoDoes Apple even sell any product with a non-retina display any more?
- inductive_magic 4y agoI think the mac mini fits that category.
- kemayo 4y agoI think the last time was in 2020, when you could still get the non-retina MacBook Air? That said, the Mac mini and Mac Studio are reasonable to consider here, since they're sold without displays and I'd be shocked if the majority of them aren't used with regular 4k displays. (We're less than a year out from Apple having a first-party retina monitor at a vaguely reasonable price-point, still.)
- nicoburns 4y agoNo, but you can use Apple products with external displays that may not be hidpi. And of course with the mac mini an external display is the only display option.
- dimmke 4y agoThis answers my question - In recent years I have used MacOS with 3 different external displays, and have never had a problem. Their resolution was always QHD. It usually doesn't look as good, but it's not like distractingly bad.
- tracker1 4y agoSad how much the price ramps up beyond reasonable for what it is when you bump ram and storage.
- captainbland 4y agoLast decade called, they want their base RAM spec back.
- szastamasta 4y agoI really love the idea of Mac mini, but when you add some more RAM and disk price is almost the same as for MacBook PRO, where you get almost the same hardware a superb display and a keyboard built in. And you can carry it around with you. These machines almost make no sense because of that.
- phendrenad2 4y agoBut they do have better cooling than a Macbook Pro, so probably somewhat better sustained performance.
- rollcat 4y agoYes, these are more niche than a laptop. I explicitly chose an M1 Mac Mini however (as opposed to a Macbook) for several reasons that have less to do with price/specs: - I do not like the laptop form factor for doing actual work at my desk; I strongly prefer a bigger and better positioned screen, an ergonomic keyboard, etc - 10Gig ethernet - HDMI (wasn't available on Macbooks at the time, also couldn't plug in two external displays) - If your computer is docked close to 24x7 (as was the case with most of my previous laptops), the battery becomes a liability - Better cooling (I know these barely ever get hot... until you actually try to push them) Plus also any kind of headless application, like a server rack where you also want the box to be a bit more more rugged.
- misterprime 4y agoI always imagined a 24x7 docked laptop was a good setup for a couple reasons: 1. built in UPS due to the battery. 2. easy to grab and go in an emergency situation. Could you tell me more about the liability it creates? Is it a fire hazard? Decaying battery performance?
- jasonpbecker 4y agoThe battery will be useless in 8-12 months if you keep it plugged in nearly 24/7.
- MikusR 4y agoThe Max one is 185W
- mempko 4y agoKind of shocked how many people here on HN are like "I'm totally fine with 8GB of ram on my mac". What? Isn't this hacker news? What are you guys doing with your computers? Are computers just toys now? Is HN no longer a space for professionals and hackers? It's like a plumber saying they are totally fine using a $2 Walmart wrench. I just don't get it.
- nomel 4y agoI have about 20 Safari tabs open, an IDE, Excel, Slack, Discord (web), Tableau, mail/calendar/etc, and some terminal windows. Activity monitor says I'm pretty much maxed out, but this is all I need, daily. Memory compression is a thing, and these SSDs are fast, but I still don't understand how this is working so well. I was fully expecting to exchange this for a higher memory model, since it's supposed to be a temporary computer. I'm keeping it, for now.
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- theusus 4y agoSo should I buy this or build a PC?
- tw1984 4y agoApple: please give your customers ECC RAM, we take data integrity seriously.
- coder543 4y agoThat would at least help them justify the current RAM pricing!
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- FearlessNebula 4y agoSerious question, what difference does ECC make on a laptop? I thought it’s only useful on a server or for situations that are critical (aircraft computer).
- walterbell 4y agoOn Mac Mini, ECC is useful for OpenZFS/data storage integrity.
- oneeyedpigeon 4y agoFirst time I've really been aware of an Apple product not just being like-for-like $->£ but actually a higher £ number: £649 vs. $599. For reference, $599 is £489.
- habosa 4y agoInteresting! Is this because the exchange rate (currently 1.23 GBP:USD but has been lower recently) is fluctuating in the same range as the VAT rate (20%)?
- cma 4y agoVAT?
- nly 4y agoWell us Brits have it too good with our train strikes, high taxes, crumbling NHS, and labour shortage. We need taking down a peg
- morituri 4y agoThey raised all the international prices last year. For example iPhone 14 is $800 / £850
- closewith 4y agoThe UK price includes VAT at 20%, so it's really £540.84 vs $599.
- cat_plus_plus 4y agoI miss getting real innovation from Apple like in the 90s and 00s. For laptops, I still understand the appeal of serious power with all day battery life, here I am just getting less software choices and less upgradability than a Windows desktop for same price. It used to be that software innovations like running UNIX out of the box, automatic full backups and good music/photo/video tools made up for it. Now Windows and Chromebooks have all of the above, has to be something new to differentiate Macs. Like machine learning support in Applescript, so that it can select files that are likely to be my favorite, or photos of a person by name, or content relevant to current date/time/location... Or something different entirely, but exciting and useful in substantial ways. Sony and other Japanese companies used to be very innovative, now it's just overpriced stuff with compatibility issues, Apple is heading the same way. At least Dyson still makes products that are different, despite their narrow focus area, wish more companies were like that.
- atonse 4y agoI've thought the same but I'm not really sure what else I'd want in my laptop. With the M1s they've just hit such a sweet spot. Battery life is great, the laptop is fast enough for everything I need. TB 3 hubs allow me to use external peripherals, two 4k 27" monitors, plenty of real estate. Update: I just saw a couple other comments – camera for sure. A much better camera than the garbage they include nowadays.
- cat_plus_plus 4y agoAgreed for laptop, but how much will power efficiency make a real difference on a Mac Mini?
- FearlessNebula 4y agoQuite a bit IMO. My Mac Mini is silent, even my gaming PC with expensive BeQuiet fans doesn’t stay silent. My Mac Mini also outputs no noticeable heat (although in the winter I kinda wish it did)
- amelius 4y agoNice hardware. Too bad I can never put it in one of the industrial machines my startup builds, as these Apple computers are completely oriented towards end-consumers, locked with an AppleID, etc. in summary totally useless from a builders perspective. It is quite sad that top tech companies nowadays produce mostly consumer electronics.
- anoncow 4y agoWill there be a M2 Max Mac Mini?
- kderbyma 4y ago"Today we package the same technology in our standard form factor, ram sizes, and we haven't innovated on design for years! it's new!"