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LG 28-inch 16:18 DualUp Monitor

326 points by jqcoffey 4y ago

clvx 4y ago
Make it vertically curve and I’m absolutely in.
- lvass 4y ago
  Bad idea, curved monitors are VA while this really needs IPS' viewing angle.
  - 4ad 4y ago
    Not just that, but curved monitors are useless for any design work, like CAD, or even good old graphical design, and I suspect this monitor will be popular with those people.
ramesh31 4y ago
I don't much care for the aspect ratio. But I have been dying for a decent sized 1080p USB-C monitor like this that has no power brick. Is there anything similar?
- anhncommenter25 4y ago
  I went on this quest recently. I wanted a small display to tuck _under_ my main widescreen monitor, so that I could have chat apps & video streaming in my periphery. The category I ended up targeting is portable monitors aimed at the business laptop market. These are slim, have a kickstand for support, and can receive data & power over a single usb-c. Not sure about product marketing restrictions on HN so I won't say the brand. But it's a 14" portable monitor from a long-running business laptop brand. If you want this for a non-laptop scenario, my advice would be to pay very close attention to the types & versions of connectors on the devices you're trying to connect. My gaming desktop didn't have the exact right usb-c port. That sent me into the world of 'weird' cables and lots of debugging to finally get it set up the way I want.
  - jonah 4y ago
    You can absolutely mention brands and even link to product pages. If you're going to use an affiliate link, it is common courtesy to disclose that. I'm interested in having a USB-C powered screen as a second monitor for my MacBook Pro, but would want it to more closely match the same resolution. 1080 just won't cut it.
    - philsnow 4y ago
      Have either of you considered some kind of ipad + sidecar for that? I'm not familiar with the ipad product line but I think there are large-ish ones with high DPI.
      - jonah 4y ago
        Ideally I'd like to spend less than the $1,000 for a 12.9 screen an iPad pro would cost.
bhauer 4y ago
This monitor would be perfect as left and right side displays. It needs a matching center display that is twice the width and the same height, yielding a three-monitor configuration with a nice large central display.
- lvass 4y ago
  >display that is twice the width and the same height 42.7" 16:9, very close to the common 42".
- titzer 4y ago
  Indeed, I think 3 monitors might be my next gamble. I switched from dual 27" (one always portrait and the other sometimes portrait, sometimes landscape), to a 42.5 (!) 4k monitor, and then downgraded to 32". The 42" monitor was a little ridiculous, like I literally started clustering my windows in the middle and ignoring the edges. 32 is better. The only direction I can imagine going would be to add 24" flanking portrait monitors to my 32.
Pakdef 4y ago
I like my 30" that I use as 1, 2, 3 or 4 monitors by tiling windows... they automatically snap to corner or side by dragging them.
cjbprime 4y ago
For what it's worth, my take: buy something like the LG C2 42" OLED TV. It is huge (but not too huge) and an excellent quality display. If you want to try ultrawide, or a square display, or an unusual aspect ratio, just.. make those desktop sizes out of your large screen.
- likeclockwork 4y ago
  LG C2 42" is 8.3 megapixels vs. this monitor's 7.4 megapixels. This monitor offers 88% of the pixels the LG C2 does but compresses them into half the surface area. It also costs half the price. For the same amount of money you can have 14.8 megapixels at higher PPI in a much more flexible format. 4K seems like a lot of real estate but at standard->lower PPI (large screen few pixels) realistically you don't get that much more real estate, especially compared to the 2560x1440 (and multiples thereof) displays. I used to use a 55" LG OLED as a monitor but in practice, coming from dual 27" 2560x1440 monitors, I rarely did deep work in quadrants of 1920x1080. I tended to use a 2560 main slice and then the leftovers for reference and my terminals. I found 55" 4K as a monitor to be overly large and lacking in usable detail and I'm not sure I trust 42" to be small enough to make up for that.
vondur 4y ago
I still have a bunch of older 24" 1920x1200 displays which are 16:10 and give you more vertical space than a 1920x1080 monitor.
elliotpage 4y ago
This reminds me of the Eizo 1:1 format monitor that I always coveted but never bought. Now it appears they are no longer being made. https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/ https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/
xdfgh1112 4y ago
How does this compare to two regular monitors stacked on a monitor stand?
- alanbernstein 4y ago
  Also easier to reposition as a single unit.
- dixie_land 4y ago
  no bezel comes to mind. also easier to mount than try to align two perfectly
- Gualdrapo 4y ago
  Only one image (unless you use the split feature) with no gaps in between, and only power input.
- mbreese 4y ago
  This is basically two 1440p panels attached together... so not too different if you have really thin bezels. But what I'm curious about is if this acts as one monitor or two? None of the images show windows that overlap the middle of the screen. So is it one or two "virtual" screens? If it is one virtual screen, I might think of it as more useful to me in the 18:16 orientation.
  - parineum 4y ago
    If it's not actually two monitors, power toys' fancyzones[1] can duplicate that behavior in Windows. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/fancyzones https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/fancyzone...
    - iLoveOncall 4y ago
      It is two monitors, you can plug 2 devices at the same time.
      - 4y ago
sneak 4y ago
Has anyone tried one of these? I'm intrigued. How well does it work?
- peterangular 4y ago
  Not the LG but I've ran a 1:1 EIZO for years which is very close... Just gonna talk on how I've grown to love the 1:1 aspect ratio. 1:1... it's not for everyone, but it is for me for the following purposes: * Best LOC on-screen possible - balanced horizontal/vertical space in my IDE means I can fit WAY more readable code on screen vs. my horizontal monitors * Vertical aspect ratio media - editing a vertical photo is outstanding (color profiles on this monitor are meh but not a huge deal for me) * 4-corner tiling - I find I only tile to the left/right or top/bottom on normal horizontal/vertical monitors... on this one I can fit 4x windows in reasonable aspect ratios in the corners * Full-height web browsing/document reading - not exclusive to 1:1; viewing a whole "page" of data is much more natural vs horizontal aspect ratios --- Downsides: * Gaming - Some games can be configured to work with it. Outside of Factorio I really don't use it _at all_ for gaming. I have 2x 16:9 1440p's on each side that I typically game on. * Price/obscurity - This EIZO was way too expensive... the LG is way better but I'm afraid in 1-2 years you won't be able to find them at a reasonable price. --- TLDR: I'm legit considering picking one of these LG's up for when my EIZO dies - I am so happy there's another option.
- sicher 4y ago
  I used to run a 16:9 vertically for writing so I got one of these and love it. The only issue is that I needed to install BetterDisplay (former BetterDummy) to get retina scaling from my macbook pro M1 . Dunno why macOS doesn't support it natively since it has the same PPI as a 32" 4k screen.
- dormando 4y ago
  I just got one a few weeks back but haven't gotten to spend a ton of time with it yet. It's taking some adjustment but I'm liking it so far. - had 1440p + 1080p monitors on stands side by side before. Now just this one on an arm (which is excellent), that I can adjust to keep my position from being static. - not having to hold my neck angled while reading my side monitor is helpful. - realistically there are a few "modes" of working on here. While coding it's pulled a bit closer, while in CAD or similar creative I might push it back a bit and get more of the monitor in view. - I recline slightly so the monitor is tilted a bit which gives me a solid view of the bottom 60-70% of the monitor. The top is a bit out of range at close distance. - For coding so far I have the middle-ish of the monitor as a 1440p code-only view. Below that are a few windows for manpages/reference/interactive debugging/repl/etc. On the top end which is normally slightly out of view I have compilation and long running test output which I glance at by moving my eyes. I like not having to page between desktops while coding when possible. The bottom view is also large enough to hold a browser window or simulator window. Need to also try pushing it back a bit with slightly larger text and see if that's any better. I don't intend to game on it, maybe windowed mode in the middle or something. edit: well, also it has this mode where you can split it into two 1440p monitors on different inputs (which you can hook up to the same computer), so depending on the game I might do that as well.
seanp2k2 4y ago
Wake me up when they make one with the resolution of 2x 4K 16:10 screens. 8K 55” TVs are hard to beat as monitors too.
- jsjohnst 4y ago
  Having had dual 5Ks for the past five years, I probably wouldn’t be excited even with it being 2x 4K. The bezels aren’t big enough to warrant the drop in resolution for something like this to me.
- Kudos 4y ago
  I tried a 49" 4k, and it gave me neck pains unless I only used the middle half of it.
  - JackGreyhat 4y ago
    I've been wanting to buy a 49inch curved to avoid neck pain...do you recommend against it? I wanted to buy this one: https://www.samsung.com/ca/monitors/gaming/odyssey-neo-g9-g95na-49-inch-240hz-1ms-quantum-mini-led-ls49ag952nnxza/ https://www.samsung.com/ca/monitors/gaming/odyssey-neo-g9-g9...
    - Kudos 4y ago
      To be clear, I actually do have that actual 49" utrawide now, and it's been great. The 49" I mentioned was just a TV I used as a monitor.
- zamadatix 4y ago
  Having tried both setups I found 8k 55" to be problematic. At 200% scaling it's like 4 4k 27.5" displays which are already a bit under scales individually (160 dpi equivalent being displayed as normal) but much worse because you need to fit 4 within your vision on a flat plane. At 250% things are better but now you're effectively just got an extremely large 5k display with all of the troubles/inneficiencies of fractional scaling. I found stacking 27"-32" sized displays in a 3x1 or 3x2 to be much more effective. This allows you to adjust the angles horizontally and vertically to where you sit so it's less of a flat plane and allows you to pick 1440p or 2160p panels for each (depending on size you went with and money you want to spend) giving you the option to build to the size and resolution you want instead of the size and resolution you can fit using a single tv. For less than $2k you can get 6x 1440p@165hz displays and 3 dual height monitor stands so it also gives more bang for the buck. Well getting the same peak HDR brightness might cost you more, especially if you want that on all displays. Not to mention 8k TVs try to do everything I their power to make the experience of just turning on and displaying the content directly and correctly impossible to do fully.
akersten 4y ago
They're still doing the thing where if you want to wall mount it, you've got to punch a hole in your drywall for the cables to have enough room to exit straight out the back of the monitor. Or hope that some cheap 90-degree noname adapter supports the latest version of DisplayPort that you want. I stopped buying this brand of monitor because of this frustration.
- philliphaydon 4y ago
  https://www.av-connection.com/?PGr=13515 https://www.av-connection.com/?PGr=13515 Like this?
  - daemoens 4y ago
    Cheaper versions on amazon and you can get em quicker HDMI: https://www.amazon.com/VCE-Supported-Degree-Female-Adapter/dp/B00Y7UT6EK/ref=sr_1_3?crid=16MSO1AU8WIVG&keywords=HDMI+Right+Angle+Adapter&qid=1657387923&s=electronics&sprefix=hdmi+right+angle+adapter%2Celectronics%2C110&sr=1-3 https://www.amazon.com/VCE-Supported-Degree-Female-Adapter/d... DisplayPort: https://www.amazon.com/Displayport-Converter-BolAAzuL-Connector-Extension/dp/B0874NWD4F/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3TFK95TDXJTSH&keywords=displayport+Right+Angle+Adapter&qid=1657387950&s=electronics&sprefix=displayport+right+angle+adapter%2Celectronics%2C384&sr=1-3 https://www.amazon.com/Displayport-Converter-BolAAzuL-Connec...
- aeyes 4y ago
  Is there no cable with a 90 degree plug on the market?
  - akersten 4y ago
    Maybe, but there's a tall raised bezel around the port area so even those cables might not work if the port is close enough to the edge of the port cutout, since it'll intersect the chassis plastic. The lower DP port on this monitor looks way too close to the bezel for a 90 degree cable for example. I guess it's not hitting the wall anymore, but I still can't use it. All in all it's a baffling design decision and I wish they would just put the ports downward firing at the bottom of the monitor with straight clearance like everyone else. You could even still stack them vertically with no gap this way because the actual screen support curves away from where the ports would exit.
dhosek 4y ago
Meh. I never want more vertical space on my monitor. It would be really a hard aun with MacOS too unless it’s meant to be two virtual monitors, in which case, it still doesn’t impress me.
- ip26 4y ago
  More horizontal space feels natural, but tends to be an ergonomic problem. I could see vertical working better for the spine & shoulders, as long as it isn’t unnaturally narrow.
  - jeffbee 4y ago
    Pretty sure that's backwards. Ergonomically you want the entire display to be at and below eye level. The neck rotates easily on the horizontal and really sucks at flexing in the vertical.
    - ip26 4y ago
      Yes, except most people wind up looking at the leftmost third of the screen the vast majority of the time (see visual heat map research) which results in chronically bad posture with very wide screens.
      - jeffbee 4y ago
        Yeah, not advocating for big wide screens, either. A 17x17 square display would be pretty sweet. You can achieve this by setting the right mode on a 27-inch widescreen, because they are 17 inches tall.
      - samatman 4y ago
        I use a window manager to split a 21:9 5k2k monitor into 11:13:11 panels, so the largest is in the middle. Suits me just fine, and I mostly look at the middle panel, with terminals and browsers off to the left and right respectively.
hintymad 4y ago
Only vertical split? Can it be horizontally split?
- politelemon 4y ago
  If you mean in terms of resolution, that would be a super ultra wide, like the Samsung neo g9.
okasaki 4y ago
I find aspect ratio is more important on smaller screens such as on laptops. Once you get to 28" and up, 16:9 is fine, since you can easily tile two windows side by side.
collegeburner 4y ago
i noticed they didn't abbreviate "nano IPS" all the way lmao
user_7832 4y ago
On a similar note, does anyone know of a squarish monitor that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and preferably has a good color gamut coverage? There was an 1920*1920 monitor (https://www.inputmag.com/reviews/square-monitor-eizo-flexscan-ev2730q-review-changed-my-life https://www.inputmag.com/reviews/square-monitor-eizo-flexsca...) but that's over 1k USD :( There are other nice displays like Huawei's Mateview at 3000*2000 but nothing costs less than ~550-600$/€. It's a bit of a pity because you can get a decent 1080p or even 1440p monitor for much less. Fyi I had written a comment some time back on how to make your own monitor, using Panelook but that also isn't very cheap (edit here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30422163 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30422163)
- akdor1154 4y ago
  Last time i looked you can still pick up the odd 4:3 1280*1024 dell ips on ebay, i have one as a secondary and it works quite well.
  - tjoff 4y ago
    That is 5:4. The 4:3 1600x1200 IPS one are quite decent but they are getting bulky by todays standards. Also require a lot more power and they are starting to die. (I think last model is from 2005). So I'd be prepared to do some repairs / get spares if you can+want.
  - user_7832 4y ago
    I do actually have a Dell 4:3 monitor with me but unfortunately the resolution as well as the physical dimensions are nothing to write home about. I can make do with "smaller" (<~24") monitors fine as long as the resolution is good enough, but as you mentioned most old monitors aren't even 1080p. (Additionally with my shortsightedness I can/end up pixel-peep on 400ppi+ displays) I guess a decent solution in my case would be to actually get a proper job (I'm still studying) and save up for a decent display, until which I'll just do some window shopping heh ;)
  - anotherhue 4y ago
    There are some NECs that go better, 1600x1200 https://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/display/multisync/lcd2090uxi.html https://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/display/multisync/lcd2090ux... Manufactured as late as 2010, especially the MedView series.
jeffbee 4y ago
If this almost-square aspect would drive you crazy, Eizo has been selling actually-square displays for ages. There's some kind of U.S. government contract for air traffic controllers that keeps the square panel industry alive. I think their "wide all around" marketing is clever. https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/ https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/
wongarsu 4y ago
I find panning my eyes left and right to other monitors more natural than up and down, and I think most ergonomics experts would agree. As such a 32:9 widescreen seems preferable to a 16:8. But if you are pressed for space, either because of small desks or because of everything else going on on your desk (people who work not only in the virtual world) this seems like a great compromise.
- spiffytech 4y ago
  I've always stacked my monitors because I recline while I work, so the up/down eye motion feels natural for me. By contrast, I turn my head to see side-by-side monitors, which doesn't feel as nice to do all day.
  - redcalx 4y ago
    > I recline while I work Can you elaborate on this? Sounds like it might be a way to limit back strain? Do you have a desk at all?
    - spiffytech 4y ago
      I work at a desk, lean my chair back, and use a footrest. Here's the one I'm using now: https://amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWT8X6K/ https://amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWT8X6K/ My desk has a keyboard tray so I can keep my chair low, and I'd want something taller if I had to raise my chair. For me, this totally eliminates back strain from working. I've also got a friend who uses a La-Z-Boy in his home office, with his laptop connected to the TV. He can't say enough good things about that setup.
      - redcalx 4y ago
        Interesting, thanks. Is your chair anything special? I'm guessing it has a high back for head support?
        spiffytech 4y ago
beebeepka 4y ago
It's incredible seeing 60 hz junk being promoted on a tech site in 2022
- jsjohnst 4y ago
  Incredibly low resolution for the size monitor too. Is the form factor the novelty worthy of sharing?
  - beebeepka 4y ago
    I think someone is just doing PR, hence the dowvotes
  - iLoveOncall 4y ago
    Since when is 1440p low resolution? A 4K IPS panel is by no means the standard, even in 2022.
    - Matthias247 4y ago
      It is rather low 110 dpi, „retina“ devices are doing > 220 dpi for nearly a decade and are much easier on the eyes. Now unfortunately those are still not common in external monitors - probably because they require 5k resolution for todays display sizes. But even the 160 dpi of a 4K @ 27“ screen is such a massive step forward in picture quality and readability that I couldn’t ever see myself going back to 110dpi or less. This should especially apply if a display is marketed as ergonomic
      - sicher 4y ago
        This LG is just shy of 140 dpi.
        Matthias247 4y ago
        You are right. I got confused by the mention of 1440p - which is not really what this screen has at 28“. Still not really in the hidpi category. I assume it would be most usable with something along 1.5-1.75 scaling, which produces inferior results to 2x.
lvass 4y ago
This shares an unfortunately common flaw with most monitors in the market, at 137.6 PPI, it'll likely require fractional scaling.
- kposehn 4y ago
  Exactly. That’s the reason I don’t recommend it and am returning mine.
4ad 4y ago
Excellent form factor with an unusable ppi. I lost all my faith in non-Apple companies being able to produce usable displays. I hate macOS, but I have no choice. The only alternative is Linux+UP3218K, but it requires Nvidia graphics (no-go on Linux, for me), and the build quality is spotty and poor... At least now we have a Linux laptop with a usable display though, the soon to be released ThinkPad T14s Gen 3 will have the option of a 16:10, 2880x1800, 242ppi display, usable in Linux with 2x scaling. Of course that laptop has other problems, but at least we have the first alternative to a MacBook in over a decade for people who care about Linux and displays.
- lvass 4y ago
  >Linux+UP3218K, but it requires Nvidia graphics Care to explain? I found some articles from 2017 claiming AMD cards can display 8k60fps.
  - 4ad 4y ago
    It didn't work a couple of years ago, at least in Linux, with the open source driver. I don't know what the situation is nowadays.
    - lvass 4y ago
      Fixed in linux 5.5(jan 2020) according to a phoronix article.
      - 4ad 4y ago
        That is excellent to hear! I really, really want a Linux workstation using Dell UP3218K. Sadly so few people have this monitor, and even fewer use Linux, that it's quite the financial gamble to know what actually works and what doesn't. I could return the monitor, of course, but then I end up with a newly bought machine without any display I could use...
js2 4y ago
I've been using a 32" 16:9 4K monitor (BenQ BL3201PH) for years. The biggest improvement I've made recently was putting it on a proper monitor arm. OMG, what a sea change being able to raise, lower, bring forward, push back the monitor throughout the day. I have a fixed standing desk with a tall bar-stool type chair I use for resting at times. I'm 50, but even with glasses I use just for editing (they are optimized for bringing into focus things at arms distance) I have the monitor relatively close to use it at the resolution and font-sizes I like. This means if I'm working on editing something toward the bottom or top of the monitor I'll often have to adjust its height so that I'm not tilting my head too far down or up. The monitor arm just makes that so easy. After a couple tries, I found a knock-off of the Fully Jarvis arm that works well, the WALI GSM001XL: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NLMLLT6/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NLMLLT6/ Anyway, this LG is neat, but my 32" is already at the height limit I'd want for a monitor. I feel like this LG dual setup I'd need to have too far way to see the full view comfortably, which would mean running everything at larger font sizes, so I'm not sure it makes sense.
- nickjj 4y ago
  Do you run your 32" 4k monitor at 100% native scaling? If so how far away do you keep the monitor from your eyes?
  - frob 4y ago
    I do. I keep it about 2.5 feet away.
  - js2 4y ago
    I don't run it 100%. I run it at 3360 x 1890, once click down in the Mac display preference pane from native. It's apparently 114%/122ppi according to [1] (not my monitor, but it's an equivalent size/resolution). The front of the monitor is 24" from my nose. 1. https://www.eizoglobal.com/support/compatibility/dpi_scaling_settings_mac_os_x/index.html https://www.eizoglobal.com/support/compatibility/dpi_scaling...
    - sofixa 4y ago
jefflombardjr 4y ago
How does this compare to rotating a regular monitor 90 degrees?
- mmis1000 4y ago
  It's exact 2 16:9
- lvass 4y ago
  https://www.displaywars.com/24-inch-d%7B1080x1920%7D-vs-28-inch-d%7B2560x2880%7D https://www.displaywars.com/24-inch-d%7B1080x1920%7D-vs-28-i...
- zamadatix 4y ago
  You also get a normal subpixel arrangement.
chrisseaton 4y ago
Wow these are the worst possible product photos - does it have a bezel in the middle or not?
- iLoveOncall 4y ago
  I think it's pretty evident from this photo that it does not: https://www.lg.com/us/images/features/mnt-dualup-ergo-28mq780-07-2-3-designer-desktop.jpg https://www.lg.com/us/images/features/mnt-dualup-ergo-28mq78... It should also be obvious given that it is not 2 monitors but a single 16:18 monitor...
  - chrisseaton 4y ago
    Every other example use they've picked seems designed to make it look like it has a bezel with no content crossing the middle of the screen - this single counter-example is buried.
  - mattkrause 4y ago
    The "ergo stand" photo actually had me fooled for a while--the "ghosts" just show you different ways the one giant monitor could be positioned. A 2x(16:9) configuration where the monitors could be brought really close together would be neat though...
  - locofocos 4y ago
    I have one- I can confirm, no bezel. It's just a single contiguous panel as far as I can tell. I does have software support for feeding 2 inputs into the top/bottom, but by default it just hooked up as a single monitor. Looks great!
  - NelsonMinar 4y ago
    Even that image is a little confusing; the strong red/blue line in the middle made me wonder if there was a seam between two panels. The red sugar packet on the left is the only thing that unambiguously indicates it's a single continuous panel.
maximus-decimus 4y ago
It makes me laugh how this is literally the opposite of my 5120x1440 neo g9. Larger avoid having to stretch your neck as much, but I have to admit this 16:18 would save a lot of desk space.
- JackGreyhat 4y ago
  Do you like your monitor? I've been wanting to buy it, but I've been reading mixed things about text clarity or sharpness. What's your experience?
bmcahren 4y ago
60hz no thanks
iLoveOncall 4y ago
This is surprisingly reasonably priced.
moneywoes 4y ago
How different is this from flipping a 16:9 display
- meatmanek 4y ago
  It's equivalent to putting two 16:9 displays on top of each other, but in the same device.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > How different is this from flipping a 16:9 display It's 16:18, nearly square. Flipping a 16:9 is 9:16, tall and skinny. Not very similar at all.
pcurve 4y ago
It's definitely smaller than I was expecting. 18.2" x 19" My 27" display is almost 25" wide.
- humanistbot 4y ago
  Pythagoras's revenge....
- meatmanek 4y ago
  Maybe I'm bad at reading, but it would be nice if the page explained "this is the equivalent of two 20-inch 16:9 monitors stacked" instead of having to bust out the Pythagorean theorem.
  - tom_ 4y ago
    The specs panel has Dimension without Stand (W x H x D): 481.5 x 549.5 x 44.9 mm
  - lvass 4y ago
    It's approximately two 21.345-inches stacked, not 20.
  - kllrnohj 4y ago
    http://displaywars.com/27,6-inch-d%7B16x18%7D-vs-27-inch-16x9 http://displaywars.com/27,6-inch-d%7B16x18%7D-vs-27-inch-16x... I love that site for comparing displays across aspect ratios.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  According to what you are writing, it is much bigger than your display: if your display had a 27'' diagonal, and was 25'' wide, it would be 10'' tall. (Which makes little sense: it would be a 5:2 proportion.) So it would have an area of 250 sqi. Versus the ~350 sqi of the LG. (It is quite a jump: the rounded √2 jump, 5:7, Ax proportion, "do it twice to double".) The steeper (or flatter) the proportion, the less the area per diagonal size. But I guess the display for comparison is more likely a 24''x13'' scarce, ~300 sqi.
llaolleh 4y ago
Unrelated but I've cycled through monitors and found LG monitors to be the best. They have a reading mode which takes care of most eye strain. That reading most had stopped 95% of my eye strain attacks.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  > They have a reading mode How does it work?
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - llaolleh 4y ago
    It's a built in mode that you can navigate to with the single button on the monitor.
- moltar 4y ago
  Any specific models you’d recommend?
  - llaolleh 4y ago
    There's a 35 inch ultra wide that goes on Sale on Costco often. I'd recommend that one.
Rapzid 4y ago
Still waiting for LG to come out with a better 27/28 inch HDR monitor. I LOVE my Ultra Gear, but the edge-lit HDR zones could really use a refresh.
happy_pancake 4y ago
Anyone know of a good touchscreen monitor/display for events? I am using the lenovo m14t connected to a mac but looking for better options..?
- CoastalCoder 4y ago
  Probably helpful if you say more about your required size, resolution, brightness, durability, portability, price, etc.
  - happy_pancake 4y ago
    24 inches or smaller touch screen, 1920x1080 res, vesa mount preferably! No need to be portable. If there’s square-ish displays that’ll be cool too! Thanks!
sbf501 4y ago
My cervical vertebrae are cowering in fear. I'd rather twist left to right and put the burden on muscles, than over-articulate my neck.
- willio58 4y ago
  I’ve been using a vertical monitor recently and I have to say I haven’t noticed any pain. I don’t tend to look up and down with my head, I simply move my eyes up and down
  - Schiendelman 4y ago
    Oh you won’t notice the pain. You’ll notice in 20 years.
    - bartvk 4y ago
      Can you expand on this ominous prediction? What are your experiences?
      - sbf501 4y ago
        I used to be able to ride a bicycle for hours on end in my 20's and 30's. Now I can't look up when bent over in that position, I need a rise in the handlebars to get me almost vertical. I didn't hurt myself. I didn't get in an accident. It is just a fundamentally unnatural position and the discs just started to deteriorate from years of holding that position. My bikes were sized and fit properly, and I was doing everything right and everything felt OK for literally decades until one day it wasn't OK.
        arghwhat 4y ago
        Intense bike positions require you to statically position the neck at almost 90 degrees to look forward, and keeping the neck maxed out like that is probably not great in the long run. The articulation to look up/down is maybe +/- 15 degrees, and being dynamic it should be a positive movement that strengthens your neck. That you have reduced neck flexibility decades later could easily just be age…
vehemenz 4y ago
It's nice to see large manufacturers break out of the 16:9 mold, although I think 4:3, 3:2, or 5:4 would be better for most users. Unfortunately, LG is letting the supply chain dictate panel size for their product team, instead of the other way around. This is no doubt a byproduct of their decision to stop building their own panels in 2020.
- lambdaba 4y ago
  3:2 is ideal, Microsoft's Surface Book series have it
  - saiya-jin 4y ago
    Its rather close to 16:10 which is more ubiquitous (I have 32" one funnily enough from LG from pre-covid times, and oh boy was I glad I bought when it came). It feels so natural to my eyes, I definitely don't want vertical panel but 16:9 is pretty crap for any kind of work.
  - pkz 4y ago
    ...and the Acer Swift. A great screen size for programmers.
  - arthurfm 4y ago
    Huawei's MateView 28.2" monitor too. It has a 3840 x 2560 resolution (which is slightly more than the 2560 x 2880 resolution of the LG DualUp), although sadly is not VESA mountable.
  - layer8 4y ago
    I believe I’d slightly prefer 16:11 if that existed, but it’s pretty close to 3:2.
    - karamanolev 4y ago
      3:2 is 16:10.66, so basically the same as 16:11.
jvolkman 4y ago
I've been using 43 inch 4k displays as monitors for 3 years now and don't think I could go back to anything smaller. Font size at native scaling is just right for me and there's plenty of real estate.
- koverda 4y ago
  I’m up to dual 75 inch 8k and it feels just right. Tried going down to 43 inches and it felt cramped.
  - PainfullyNormal 4y ago
    Would you be willing to post a picture of your setup? That sounds insanely cool.
  - immigrantheart 4y ago
    How do you even able to read it? From what distance?
  - xur17 4y ago
    I was considering this recently, but didn't find a good curved version. What do you use?
rsync 4y ago
EIZO makes a 1:1 monitor you can buy off the shelf right now: https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/ https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/
- dmix 4y ago
  I like how they target programmers specifically on their landing page. I wonder how well it works in practice. I typically have multiple tabs open so I don’t mind going wide over long. But it is easier to look down rather than sideways.
  - ahmedfromtunis 4y ago
    What I'm really concerned about is having to look down for longer periods of time with monitors like these. I used to have a terrible back pain that magically disappeared when I elevated my laptop so that the screen is at my eye level. I still have a lighter version of this pain whenever I have to work for an extended period from a coffee shop or wherever I can't elevate the laptop.
- somat 4y ago
  I love it, perhaps we are entering a golden age of 1:1 screens. I had a blackberry passport and the second greatest thing about it was that it had a square screen and took square pictures.
- markonen 4y ago
  It’s a great test case for your “is this display landscape or portrait” functions
- steanne 4y ago
  i have that and the one thing i don't like about it is the max rate is 60hz. even 75 would be fine; i don't need amazing, just a bit more than 60. this new lg monitor has really neat features: the picture by picture and the built-in kvm are clever and useful, but it has the same 60hz.
- stonogo 4y ago
alin23 4y ago
Looks like some users of Lunar (https://lunar.fyi https://lunar.fyi) are already using this monitor: https://files.alinpanaitiu.com/6a7515174ddd729a3df47063ee7601da87c15ed3.png https://files.alinpanaitiu.com/6a7515174ddd729a3df47063ee760... Some notable data points: - supports DDC brightness control (controlling the real brightness of the monitor using Lunar on Mac, TwinkleTray on Windows or ddcutil on Linux) - supports DDC volume control - supports Lunar's XDR Brightness feature (https://lunar.fyi/#xdr) which means that in HDR mode the full brightness of the display can be unlocked and used for SDR content - although the specs page reports a typical brightness of 300nits so not sure if this has any effect - it isn't recognized as HiDPI by macOS (this used to cause blurry text, not sure if this is the case here but BetterDisplay is a thing these days so not an issue) If you want to dig deeper, you can find the same data here: https://db.lunar.fyi https://db.lunar.fyi And here's the query I used: SELECT name, ddc, "canChangeVolume", orientation, width, height, "dotsPerInch", "maxEDR", "potentialEDR", "refreshRate", "isHiDPI", "isRetina", "isSmartDisplay", ("kCGDisplayID" <= 10) as "appleSilicon", -- M1 assigns IDs from 2 to 10, Intel uses much larger IDs * FROM displays WHERE name ILIKE '%SDQHD%' AND "DisplayProductID" != 0 -- Filter out those in a semi-connected state
- kposehn 4y ago
  I used Better Display with it (very useful tool) but it only partially improved the scaling instead of resolving entirely. It still has banding, jagged edges and some lag.
ComputerGuru 4y ago
I’ve been looking for a replacement for my 16:10 HP zr30w with either high-dpi or high-fps (not that this is particularly either) and have been coming up high-and-dry. This looks like an alternative worth exploring instead of the garbage 16:9 flooding the market with unusable high-dpi real estate. But it doesn’t have VESA? I’m all for the “save desk space” mantra that’s plastered all over their marketing materials, but my solution was a wall/stud-mounted gas spring fully-articulated VESA mount that I’ve used across several monitors. I definitely don’t want a desk-clamped alternative that will flatter and shake as I type vigorously on my mechanical keyboard (on anything that isn’t a solid, handcrafted wood desk that takes four people to move).
- ravis11 4y ago
  I'm pretty sure it has a Vesa mount. Their specs say wall-mountable 100x100 and other sites say its a Vesa 100x100 mount.
  - kposehn 4y ago
    I can confirm it works with VESA mounts without issue. I’m using an Ergotron arm mounted to the wall and it went on no problem.
    - ComputerGuru 4y ago
      Thanks for confirming! The pictures made it seem like it wasn’t VESA compatible.
- locofocos 4y ago
  I'm using the included monitor stand. The monitor definitely can move relative to my desk if I shake my desk, but it's noticeably sturdier than a cheap (but highly rated) monitor arm from Amazon. I'm personally pleased using the monitor stand.
puppycodes 4y ago
its a great monitor if your productivity standards are high and your visual quality standards are low
- mdp2021 4y ago
  Which specification details you see as bad?
  - robertoandred 4y ago
    The ppi
    - mdp2021 4y ago
      140ppi is bad at book's distance but fair at arm's (or, monitor's) distance, and a definite progress from the traditional ~90ppi.
JimRoepcke 4y ago
I received one last week. Works great on my M1 MBP. I have a 16:9 monitor above the MBP and the LG to the right of it, but now I want to get a keyboard, trackpad and webcam so I can swap the positions of the monitors and have the LG as my main monitor. My only complaint is it’s not as wide as a 27” monitor despite having the same resolution as Thunderbolt Displays / 27” iMacs. So the pixels are smaller. The width is closer to a 24” 16:9. But I love the stand, and everything else about it.
- aviditas 4y ago
  Yes! The stand is really great; I have mine on an adjustable height desk and it takes up so little space. Which is perfect as I have so little space to work with. I got it recently and for me it's spot on as my main monitor. The built-in two device kvm saves me so much time. I can't speak to the resolution woes as I was using two very, very old monitors at home so I've just been basking in the glow of using something made recently. I've been enjoying the vertical space for tasks like going through logs/giant spreadsheets and then switching to the dual monitor mode for the usual multi-tasking. I've used dual 32in curved fancy monitors at the office before and found that I would just use a fourth of the real estate available. My brain prefers the vertical space over the horizontal.
- kposehn 4y ago
  Were you able to get proper hidpi scaling on it without artifacts/blurriness or are you just letting it run at native scaling?
  - djcollier 4y ago
    My solution has been to use it as a second monitor, run it at native resolution, and only use it for apps where I can reliablably increase the font size (terminals, web apps/pages with good zoom support). I keep VSCode on my high DPI main monitor.
oumua_don17 4y ago
There is also this new ergo dual 27 display from LG. [1] [1] https://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-27qp88d-b# https://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-27qp88d-b#
- brentadamson 4y ago
  Can you daisy chain another set of these so that I have 4 monitors total or can you just daisy chain one set?
  - nopcode 4y ago
    Not on apple and probably only 30Hz with windows. 4 x 1440p@60Hz is ± 26.6 Gbps which is really pushing it for displayport 1.3
linsomniac 4y ago
I've been running two 4K 30" displays in this form factor for 3-4 months and love it. I put the upper monitor on an arm above the lower. The upper is a bit too high for doing regular work on, but it's great status stuff (slack, music player, bugtracker, e-mail, ...). The down side of this LG is that it's about the price I paid for the two 30" 4K displays... The curse of irregular displays, losing economies of scale.
- pcurve 4y ago
  Would love to see your desk setup ;-)
  - linsomniac 4y ago
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/BzcR4Q12MzL8bTiFA https://photos.app.goo.gl/BzcR4Q12MzL8bTiFA To answer the first question I'm likely to get: The blue painters tape is a "cat napping on the laptop keyboard when I'm away prevention device".
kposehn 4y ago
I’ve had one of these for a few weeks and am returning it. Here’s my take: - The aspect ratio is great when rotated 90 degrees. I really liked having more vertical room for coding and documents. - Screen scaling with Mac OS does not work well. I’ve been using BetterDisplay to address this but it still suffers from lag, banding and pixelation. As a result I’m returning and getting a BenQ 32” 4K. If the scaling issues on mac are addressed later on I may revisit it.
- likeclockwork 4y ago
  That's unfortunate. I was hoping to get one of these as an external monitor for an MBP. I do have to wonder though, you're saying 'Screen scaling with Mac OS' and 'scaling issues on mac' but this is just a monitor, Isn't that "MacOS screen scaling does not work well" and "mac scaling issues" rather than any defect with the device itself?
  - kposehn 4y ago
    I was disappointed too. In the end the vastly improved aspect ratio and ergonomics could not overcome the unpleasant screen quality. While Mac OS has never had an issue with other monitors and scaling replies in my experience, it does for the DualUp. I’m not knowledgeable enough about the various protocols to know if this is Apple or LG’s responsibility, but the end result is not pleasant.
    - acchow 4y ago
      I believe for Apple's rescaling to work properly, it needs to be able to render at 2x resolution on both axes (4x resolution total). So for this 2560 x 2880, it needs a GPU to render internally at 5210x5760. That is 30MP. Can your GPU actually do this?
      - kposehn 4y ago
        I’m unsure if that’s possible. Running a Mac Studio M1 Ultra.
system2 4y ago
A 4k 32" monitor is $300. Why pay $700 for this when we can use a similar one? Is it just the ratio?
- moltar 4y ago
  Any you’d recommend in this price range? I’m looking for something like MacBook “retina” quality. Thank you.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > A 4k 32" monitor is $300. Why pay $700 for this when we can use a similar one? Is it just the ratio? Yes, it's the ratio.
DavidVoid 4y ago
If you're curious what a setup with three of these would look like, there was a post on r/battlestations today by an app developer who uses three of them [0]. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/vv2tca/app_developer_wfh_setup/ https://old.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/vv2tca/app_...
wodenokoto 4y ago
So this is two 16:9 stacked on top of each other. Each with 2560x1440 resolution and each … how many inches?
layer8 4y ago
I’m waiting for a 200+ DPI OLED monitor with something like 4500 x 3000 resolution.
orthoxerox 4y ago
I wish USB-C single cable solution would become standard on all screens, along with a built-in USB/BT hub. Then we could revisit the idea of thumbstick PCs. I am not a big fan of laptops and would gladly carry a Mars bar-sized computer with me instead.
- closeparen 4y ago
  I used to work with someone who carried an Intel NUC in his backpack rather than the standard issue laptop.
  - orthoxerox 4y ago
    I was given a NUC-sized PC when we switched to WFH and liked it more than a laptop, but I still had to carry a power brick with it, doubling the bulk. Getting DC from the display would've been much more convenient.
zone411 4y ago
I got them recently as the side monitors for a 16:9 43'' 4k in the middle. The height matches almost perfectly. I love this layout so far, so much desktop space and such high resolution! And it's nice to have a big 16:9 screen in the middle for videos. Finally a worthy replacement for my three 10-year-old 30'' 16:10 Dells. For people who work in Windows: you will want to use https://github.com/mgth/LittleBigMouse https://github.com/mgth/LittleBigMouse and you'll need to modify the registry to work around this issue https://github.com/mgth/LittleBigMouse/issues/80 https://github.com/mgth/LittleBigMouse/issues/80 if you don't want your mouse cursor to jump vertically during screen transitions.
- stevejb 4y ago
  What 43" monitor are you using? Do you happen to have a picture of your setup?
SergeAx 4y ago
This is a perfect one for crypto traders! These days they should rotate their 16:9 vertically to see the full depth of assets plunged. Now they will have this and see much longer history at the same time.
- tradertef 4y ago
  Horrible and tasteless comment. HN crowd takes every opportunity to attack Bitcoin.
  - charles_kaw 4y ago
    Because the cryptocurrency community demonstrated incredible hubris, and even mocked "no-coiners" constantly. So, it shouldn't be a surprise that some people would respond in kind. I don't think it's great to mock people for losing their life savings, but that's where it's coming from I think.
    - Phileosopher 4y ago
      From a population perspective, all groups of people will have a disproportionate fringe of memorable behaviors. I've always found it odd that people group an entire community together like that, which may be the fact that I'm on the spectrum. The crypto jerks aren't necessarily the ones who quietly used blockchain investments as an attempt to invest. Can't say they made a wise decision, but it's just bad form to strike someone when they're down. They still came out better than taking $40K in consumer debt!
  - SergeAx 4y ago
    I left you a perfect chance to retort with a joke about future crypto-assets growth, but you chose just to whine lamely. No wonder crypto bros are so non-likable.
    - tradertef 4y ago
      The problem is not the joke, the problem is persistence of hate towards Bitcoin from people in the tech community. I guess tech-bros are non-likeable to most people as well.
what-imright 4y ago
Get this! Amazon lets you pay $140/mo to buy it on many accounts. I think that’s a golden deal (And I ordered)
aldeluis 4y ago
I bought a LG 4k monitor with ERGO mount (32UN880-B.AEU). After the first week of use the useful small USB-C connector (power + video) was ripped off the back of the monitor PCB because the only mechanical support of this connector was the solder, no additional support to the chassis. A big hole where you can see the PCB. Seems that there's no problem for this method of attachment in bigger connectors (HDMI or DisplayPort) but the soldered attachment of USB-C is not strong. It needs additional support to the chassis. The minimal movement of the included stiff usb-c cable when moving the ERGO mount will tear the connector off the PCB. My monitor is broken and technical service didn't take responsibility. Money lost, never again LG.
nsonha 4y ago
with the added height of the monitor, this barely make it a monitor that has does not need external arm to be tall enough for correct posture. Monitors sold on the market are hazardously low, I always need an arm or several books stacked to pad them. There should be some health regulation around this.
GoOnThenDoTell 4y ago
This would be amazing it it were 2x4k rather 2x1440p

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clvx 4y ago

Make it vertically curve and I’m absolutely in.

lvass 4y ago
Bad idea, curved monitors are VA while this really needs IPS' viewing angle.
- 4ad 4y ago
  Not just that, but curved monitors are useless for any design work, like CAD, or even good old graphical design, and I suspect this monitor will be popular with those people.

ramesh31 4y ago

I don't much care for the aspect ratio. But I have been dying for a decent sized 1080p USB-C monitor like this that has no power brick. Is there anything similar?

anhncommenter25 4y ago
I went on this quest recently. I wanted a small display to tuck _under_ my main widescreen monitor, so that I could have chat apps & video streaming in my periphery. The category I ended up targeting is portable monitors aimed at the business laptop market. These are slim, have a kickstand for support, and can receive data & power over a single usb-c. Not sure about product marketing restrictions on HN so I won't say the brand. But it's a 14" portable monitor from a long-running business laptop brand. If you want this for a non-laptop scenario, my advice would be to pay very close attention to the types & versions of connectors on the devices you're trying to connect. My gaming desktop didn't have the exact right usb-c port. That sent me into the world of 'weird' cables and lots of debugging to finally get it set up the way I want.
- jonah 4y ago
  You can absolutely mention brands and even link to product pages. If you're going to use an affiliate link, it is common courtesy to disclose that. I'm interested in having a USB-C powered screen as a second monitor for my MacBook Pro, but would want it to more closely match the same resolution. 1080 just won't cut it.
  - philsnow 4y ago
    Have either of you considered some kind of ipad + sidecar for that? I'm not familiar with the ipad product line but I think there are large-ish ones with high DPI.
    - jonah 4y ago
      Ideally I'd like to spend less than the $1,000 for a 12.9 screen an iPad pro would cost.

bhauer 4y ago

This monitor would be perfect as left and right side displays. It needs a matching center display that is twice the width and the same height, yielding a three-monitor configuration with a nice large central display.

lvass 4y ago
>display that is twice the width and the same height 42.7" 16:9, very close to the common 42".
titzer 4y ago
Indeed, I think 3 monitors might be my next gamble. I switched from dual 27" (one always portrait and the other sometimes portrait, sometimes landscape), to a 42.5 (!) 4k monitor, and then downgraded to 32". The 42" monitor was a little ridiculous, like I literally started clustering my windows in the middle and ignoring the edges. 32 is better. The only direction I can imagine going would be to add 24" flanking portrait monitors to my 32.

Pakdef 4y ago

I like my 30" that I use as 1, 2, 3 or 4 monitors by tiling windows... they automatically snap to corner or side by dragging them.

cjbprime 4y ago

For what it's worth, my take: buy something like the LG C2 42" OLED TV. It is huge (but not too huge) and an excellent quality display. If you want to try ultrawide, or a square display, or an unusual aspect ratio, just.. make those desktop sizes out of your large screen.

likeclockwork 4y ago
LG C2 42" is 8.3 megapixels vs. this monitor's 7.4 megapixels. This monitor offers 88% of the pixels the LG C2 does but compresses them into half the surface area. It also costs half the price. For the same amount of money you can have 14.8 megapixels at higher PPI in a much more flexible format. 4K seems like a lot of real estate but at standard->lower PPI (large screen few pixels) realistically you don't get that much more real estate, especially compared to the 2560x1440 (and multiples thereof) displays. I used to use a 55" LG OLED as a monitor but in practice, coming from dual 27" 2560x1440 monitors, I rarely did deep work in quadrants of 1920x1080. I tended to use a 2560 main slice and then the leftovers for reference and my terminals. I found 55" 4K as a monitor to be overly large and lacking in usable detail and I'm not sure I trust 42" to be small enough to make up for that.

vondur 4y ago

I still have a bunch of older 24" 1920x1200 displays which are 16:10 and give you more vertical space than a 1920x1080 monitor.

elliotpage 4y ago

This reminds me of the Eizo 1:1 format monitor that I always coveted but never bought. Now it appears they are no longer being made. https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/ https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/

xdfgh1112 4y ago

How does this compare to two regular monitors stacked on a monitor stand?

alanbernstein 4y ago
Also easier to reposition as a single unit.
dixie_land 4y ago
no bezel comes to mind. also easier to mount than try to align two perfectly
Gualdrapo 4y ago
Only one image (unless you use the split feature) with no gaps in between, and only power input.
mbreese 4y ago
This is basically two 1440p panels attached together... so not too different if you have really thin bezels. But what I'm curious about is if this acts as one monitor or two? None of the images show windows that overlap the middle of the screen. So is it one or two "virtual" screens? If it is one virtual screen, I might think of it as more useful to me in the 18:16 orientation.
- parineum 4y ago
  If it's not actually two monitors, power toys' fancyzones[1] can duplicate that behavior in Windows. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/fancyzones https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/fancyzone...
  - iLoveOncall 4y ago
    It is two monitors, you can plug 2 devices at the same time.
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sneak 4y ago

Has anyone tried one of these? I'm intrigued. How well does it work?

peterangular 4y ago
Not the LG but I've ran a 1:1 EIZO for years which is very close... Just gonna talk on how I've grown to love the 1:1 aspect ratio. 1:1... it's not for everyone, but it is for me for the following purposes: * Best LOC on-screen possible - balanced horizontal/vertical space in my IDE means I can fit WAY more readable code on screen vs. my horizontal monitors * Vertical aspect ratio media - editing a vertical photo is outstanding (color profiles on this monitor are meh but not a huge deal for me) * 4-corner tiling - I find I only tile to the left/right or top/bottom on normal horizontal/vertical monitors... on this one I can fit 4x windows in reasonable aspect ratios in the corners * Full-height web browsing/document reading - not exclusive to 1:1; viewing a whole "page" of data is much more natural vs horizontal aspect ratios --- Downsides: * Gaming - Some games can be configured to work with it. Outside of Factorio I really don't use it _at all_ for gaming. I have 2x 16:9 1440p's on each side that I typically game on. * Price/obscurity - This EIZO was way too expensive... the LG is way better but I'm afraid in 1-2 years you won't be able to find them at a reasonable price. --- TLDR: I'm legit considering picking one of these LG's up for when my EIZO dies - I am so happy there's another option.
sicher 4y ago
I used to run a 16:9 vertically for writing so I got one of these and love it. The only issue is that I needed to install BetterDisplay (former BetterDummy) to get retina scaling from my macbook pro M1 . Dunno why macOS doesn't support it natively since it has the same PPI as a 32" 4k screen.
dormando 4y ago
I just got one a few weeks back but haven't gotten to spend a ton of time with it yet. It's taking some adjustment but I'm liking it so far. - had 1440p + 1080p monitors on stands side by side before. Now just this one on an arm (which is excellent), that I can adjust to keep my position from being static. - not having to hold my neck angled while reading my side monitor is helpful. - realistically there are a few "modes" of working on here. While coding it's pulled a bit closer, while in CAD or similar creative I might push it back a bit and get more of the monitor in view. - I recline slightly so the monitor is tilted a bit which gives me a solid view of the bottom 60-70% of the monitor. The top is a bit out of range at close distance. - For coding so far I have the middle-ish of the monitor as a 1440p code-only view. Below that are a few windows for manpages/reference/interactive debugging/repl/etc. On the top end which is normally slightly out of view I have compilation and long running test output which I glance at by moving my eyes. I like not having to page between desktops while coding when possible. The bottom view is also large enough to hold a browser window or simulator window. Need to also try pushing it back a bit with slightly larger text and see if that's any better. I don't intend to game on it, maybe windowed mode in the middle or something. edit: well, also it has this mode where you can split it into two 1440p monitors on different inputs (which you can hook up to the same computer), so depending on the game I might do that as well.

seanp2k2 4y ago

Wake me up when they make one with the resolution of 2x 4K 16:10 screens. 8K 55” TVs are hard to beat as monitors too.

jsjohnst 4y ago
Having had dual 5Ks for the past five years, I probably wouldn’t be excited even with it being 2x 4K. The bezels aren’t big enough to warrant the drop in resolution for something like this to me.
Kudos 4y ago
I tried a 49" 4k, and it gave me neck pains unless I only used the middle half of it.
- JackGreyhat 4y ago
  I've been wanting to buy a 49inch curved to avoid neck pain...do you recommend against it? I wanted to buy this one: https://www.samsung.com/ca/monitors/gaming/odyssey-neo-g9-g95na-49-inch-240hz-1ms-quantum-mini-led-ls49ag952nnxza/ https://www.samsung.com/ca/monitors/gaming/odyssey-neo-g9-g9...
  - Kudos 4y ago
    To be clear, I actually do have that actual 49" utrawide now, and it's been great. The 49" I mentioned was just a TV I used as a monitor.
zamadatix 4y ago
Having tried both setups I found 8k 55" to be problematic. At 200% scaling it's like 4 4k 27.5" displays which are already a bit under scales individually (160 dpi equivalent being displayed as normal) but much worse because you need to fit 4 within your vision on a flat plane. At 250% things are better but now you're effectively just got an extremely large 5k display with all of the troubles/inneficiencies of fractional scaling. I found stacking 27"-32" sized displays in a 3x1 or 3x2 to be much more effective. This allows you to adjust the angles horizontally and vertically to where you sit so it's less of a flat plane and allows you to pick 1440p or 2160p panels for each (depending on size you went with and money you want to spend) giving you the option to build to the size and resolution you want instead of the size and resolution you can fit using a single tv. For less than $2k you can get 6x 1440p@165hz displays and 3 dual height monitor stands so it also gives more bang for the buck. Well getting the same peak HDR brightness might cost you more, especially if you want that on all displays. Not to mention 8k TVs try to do everything I their power to make the experience of just turning on and displaying the content directly and correctly impossible to do fully.

akersten 4y ago

They're still doing the thing where if you want to wall mount it, you've got to punch a hole in your drywall for the cables to have enough room to exit straight out the back of the monitor. Or hope that some cheap 90-degree noname adapter supports the latest version of DisplayPort that you want. I stopped buying this brand of monitor because of this frustration.

philliphaydon 4y ago
https://www.av-connection.com/?PGr=13515 https://www.av-connection.com/?PGr=13515 Like this?
- daemoens 4y ago
  Cheaper versions on amazon and you can get em quicker HDMI: https://www.amazon.com/VCE-Supported-Degree-Female-Adapter/dp/B00Y7UT6EK/ref=sr_1_3?crid=16MSO1AU8WIVG&keywords=HDMI+Right+Angle+Adapter&qid=1657387923&s=electronics&sprefix=hdmi+right+angle+adapter%2Celectronics%2C110&sr=1-3 https://www.amazon.com/VCE-Supported-Degree-Female-Adapter/d... DisplayPort: https://www.amazon.com/Displayport-Converter-BolAAzuL-Connector-Extension/dp/B0874NWD4F/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3TFK95TDXJTSH&keywords=displayport+Right+Angle+Adapter&qid=1657387950&s=electronics&sprefix=displayport+right+angle+adapter%2Celectronics%2C384&sr=1-3 https://www.amazon.com/Displayport-Converter-BolAAzuL-Connec...
aeyes 4y ago
Is there no cable with a 90 degree plug on the market?
- akersten 4y ago
  Maybe, but there's a tall raised bezel around the port area so even those cables might not work if the port is close enough to the edge of the port cutout, since it'll intersect the chassis plastic. The lower DP port on this monitor looks way too close to the bezel for a 90 degree cable for example. I guess it's not hitting the wall anymore, but I still can't use it. All in all it's a baffling design decision and I wish they would just put the ports downward firing at the bottom of the monitor with straight clearance like everyone else. You could even still stack them vertically with no gap this way because the actual screen support curves away from where the ports would exit.

dhosek 4y ago

Meh. I never want more vertical space on my monitor. It would be really a hard aun with MacOS too unless it’s meant to be two virtual monitors, in which case, it still doesn’t impress me.

ip26 4y ago
More horizontal space feels natural, but tends to be an ergonomic problem. I could see vertical working better for the spine & shoulders, as long as it isn’t unnaturally narrow.
- jeffbee 4y ago
  Pretty sure that's backwards. Ergonomically you want the entire display to be at and below eye level. The neck rotates easily on the horizontal and really sucks at flexing in the vertical.
  - ip26 4y ago
    Yes, except most people wind up looking at the leftmost third of the screen the vast majority of the time (see visual heat map research) which results in chronically bad posture with very wide screens.
    - jeffbee 4y ago
      Yeah, not advocating for big wide screens, either. A 17x17 square display would be pretty sweet. You can achieve this by setting the right mode on a 27-inch widescreen, because they are 17 inches tall.
    - samatman 4y ago
      I use a window manager to split a 21:9 5k2k monitor into 11:13:11 panels, so the largest is in the middle. Suits me just fine, and I mostly look at the middle panel, with terminals and browsers off to the left and right respectively.

hintymad 4y ago

Only vertical split? Can it be horizontally split?

politelemon 4y ago
If you mean in terms of resolution, that would be a super ultra wide, like the Samsung neo g9.

okasaki 4y ago

I find aspect ratio is more important on smaller screens such as on laptops. Once you get to 28" and up, 16:9 is fine, since you can easily tile two windows side by side.

collegeburner 4y ago

i noticed they didn't abbreviate "nano IPS" all the way lmao

user_7832 4y ago

On a similar note, does anyone know of a squarish monitor that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and preferably has a good color gamut coverage? There was an 1920*1920 monitor (https://www.inputmag.com/reviews/square-monitor-eizo-flexscan-ev2730q-review-changed-my-life https://www.inputmag.com/reviews/square-monitor-eizo-flexsca...) but that's over 1k USD :( There are other nice displays like Huawei's Mateview at 3000*2000 but nothing costs less than ~550-600$/€. It's a bit of a pity because you can get a decent 1080p or even 1440p monitor for much less. Fyi I had written a comment some time back on how to make your own monitor, using Panelook but that also isn't very cheap (edit here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30422163 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30422163)

akdor1154 4y ago
Last time i looked you can still pick up the odd 4:3 1280*1024 dell ips on ebay, i have one as a secondary and it works quite well.
- tjoff 4y ago
  That is 5:4. The 4:3 1600x1200 IPS one are quite decent but they are getting bulky by todays standards. Also require a lot more power and they are starting to die. (I think last model is from 2005). So I'd be prepared to do some repairs / get spares if you can+want.
- user_7832 4y ago
  I do actually have a Dell 4:3 monitor with me but unfortunately the resolution as well as the physical dimensions are nothing to write home about. I can make do with "smaller" (<~24") monitors fine as long as the resolution is good enough, but as you mentioned most old monitors aren't even 1080p. (Additionally with my shortsightedness I can/end up pixel-peep on 400ppi+ displays) I guess a decent solution in my case would be to actually get a proper job (I'm still studying) and save up for a decent display, until which I'll just do some window shopping heh ;)
- anotherhue 4y ago
  There are some NECs that go better, 1600x1200 https://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/display/multisync/lcd2090uxi.html https://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/display/multisync/lcd2090ux... Manufactured as late as 2010, especially the MedView series.

jeffbee 4y ago

If this almost-square aspect would drive you crazy, Eizo has been selling actually-square displays for ages. There's some kind of U.S. government contract for air traffic controllers that keeps the square panel industry alive. I think their "wide all around" marketing is clever. https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/ https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/

wongarsu 4y ago

I find panning my eyes left and right to other monitors more natural than up and down, and I think most ergonomics experts would agree. As such a 32:9 widescreen seems preferable to a 16:8. But if you are pressed for space, either because of small desks or because of everything else going on on your desk (people who work not only in the virtual world) this seems like a great compromise.

spiffytech 4y ago
I've always stacked my monitors because I recline while I work, so the up/down eye motion feels natural for me. By contrast, I turn my head to see side-by-side monitors, which doesn't feel as nice to do all day.
- redcalx 4y ago
  > I recline while I work Can you elaborate on this? Sounds like it might be a way to limit back strain? Do you have a desk at all?
  - spiffytech 4y ago
    I work at a desk, lean my chair back, and use a footrest. Here's the one I'm using now: https://amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWT8X6K/ https://amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWT8X6K/ My desk has a keyboard tray so I can keep my chair low, and I'd want something taller if I had to raise my chair. For me, this totally eliminates back strain from working. I've also got a friend who uses a La-Z-Boy in his home office, with his laptop connected to the TV. He can't say enough good things about that setup.
    - redcalx 4y ago
      Interesting, thanks. Is your chair anything special? I'm guessing it has a high back for head support?
      - spiffytech 4y ago

beebeepka 4y ago

It's incredible seeing 60 hz junk being promoted on a tech site in 2022

jsjohnst 4y ago
Incredibly low resolution for the size monitor too. Is the form factor the novelty worthy of sharing?
- beebeepka 4y ago
  I think someone is just doing PR, hence the dowvotes
- iLoveOncall 4y ago
  Since when is 1440p low resolution? A 4K IPS panel is by no means the standard, even in 2022.
  - Matthias247 4y ago
    It is rather low 110 dpi, „retina“ devices are doing > 220 dpi for nearly a decade and are much easier on the eyes. Now unfortunately those are still not common in external monitors - probably because they require 5k resolution for todays display sizes. But even the 160 dpi of a 4K @ 27“ screen is such a massive step forward in picture quality and readability that I couldn’t ever see myself going back to 110dpi or less. This should especially apply if a display is marketed as ergonomic
    - sicher 4y ago
      This LG is just shy of 140 dpi.
      - Matthias247 4y ago
        You are right. I got confused by the mention of 1440p - which is not really what this screen has at 28“. Still not really in the hidpi category. I assume it would be most usable with something along 1.5-1.75 scaling, which produces inferior results to 2x.

lvass 4y ago

This shares an unfortunately common flaw with most monitors in the market, at 137.6 PPI, it'll likely require fractional scaling.

kposehn 4y ago
Exactly. That’s the reason I don’t recommend it and am returning mine.

4ad 4y ago

Excellent form factor with an unusable ppi. I lost all my faith in non-Apple companies being able to produce usable displays. I hate macOS, but I have no choice. The only alternative is Linux+UP3218K, but it requires Nvidia graphics (no-go on Linux, for me), and the build quality is spotty and poor... At least now we have a Linux laptop with a usable display though, the soon to be released ThinkPad T14s Gen 3 will have the option of a 16:10, 2880x1800, 242ppi display, usable in Linux with 2x scaling. Of course that laptop has other problems, but at least we have the first alternative to a MacBook in over a decade for people who care about Linux and displays.

lvass 4y ago
>Linux+UP3218K, but it requires Nvidia graphics Care to explain? I found some articles from 2017 claiming AMD cards can display 8k60fps.
- 4ad 4y ago
  It didn't work a couple of years ago, at least in Linux, with the open source driver. I don't know what the situation is nowadays.
  - lvass 4y ago
    Fixed in linux 5.5(jan 2020) according to a phoronix article.
    - 4ad 4y ago
      That is excellent to hear! I really, really want a Linux workstation using Dell UP3218K. Sadly so few people have this monitor, and even fewer use Linux, that it's quite the financial gamble to know what actually works and what doesn't. I could return the monitor, of course, but then I end up with a newly bought machine without any display I could use...

js2 4y ago

I've been using a 32" 16:9 4K monitor (BenQ BL3201PH) for years. The biggest improvement I've made recently was putting it on a proper monitor arm. OMG, what a sea change being able to raise, lower, bring forward, push back the monitor throughout the day. I have a fixed standing desk with a tall bar-stool type chair I use for resting at times. I'm 50, but even with glasses I use just for editing (they are optimized for bringing into focus things at arms distance) I have the monitor relatively close to use it at the resolution and font-sizes I like. This means if I'm working on editing something toward the bottom or top of the monitor I'll often have to adjust its height so that I'm not tilting my head too far down or up. The monitor arm just makes that so easy. After a couple tries, I found a knock-off of the Fully Jarvis arm that works well, the WALI GSM001XL: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NLMLLT6/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NLMLLT6/ Anyway, this LG is neat, but my 32" is already at the height limit I'd want for a monitor. I feel like this LG dual setup I'd need to have too far way to see the full view comfortably, which would mean running everything at larger font sizes, so I'm not sure it makes sense.

nickjj 4y ago
Do you run your 32" 4k monitor at 100% native scaling? If so how far away do you keep the monitor from your eyes?
- frob 4y ago
  I do. I keep it about 2.5 feet away.
- js2 4y ago
  I don't run it 100%. I run it at 3360 x 1890, once click down in the Mac display preference pane from native. It's apparently 114%/122ppi according to [1] (not my monitor, but it's an equivalent size/resolution). The front of the monitor is 24" from my nose. 1. https://www.eizoglobal.com/support/compatibility/dpi_scaling_settings_mac_os_x/index.html https://www.eizoglobal.com/support/compatibility/dpi_scaling...
  - sofixa 4y ago

jefflombardjr 4y ago

How does this compare to rotating a regular monitor 90 degrees?

mmis1000 4y ago
It's exact 2 16:9
lvass 4y ago
https://www.displaywars.com/24-inch-d%7B1080x1920%7D-vs-28-inch-d%7B2560x2880%7D https://www.displaywars.com/24-inch-d%7B1080x1920%7D-vs-28-i...
zamadatix 4y ago
You also get a normal subpixel arrangement.

chrisseaton 4y ago

Wow these are the worst possible product photos - does it have a bezel in the middle or not?

iLoveOncall 4y ago
I think it's pretty evident from this photo that it does not: https://www.lg.com/us/images/features/mnt-dualup-ergo-28mq780-07-2-3-designer-desktop.jpg https://www.lg.com/us/images/features/mnt-dualup-ergo-28mq78... It should also be obvious given that it is not 2 monitors but a single 16:18 monitor...
- chrisseaton 4y ago
  Every other example use they've picked seems designed to make it look like it has a bezel with no content crossing the middle of the screen - this single counter-example is buried.
- mattkrause 4y ago
  The "ergo stand" photo actually had me fooled for a while--the "ghosts" just show you different ways the one giant monitor could be positioned. A 2x(16:9) configuration where the monitors could be brought really close together would be neat though...
- locofocos 4y ago
  I have one- I can confirm, no bezel. It's just a single contiguous panel as far as I can tell. I does have software support for feeding 2 inputs into the top/bottom, but by default it just hooked up as a single monitor. Looks great!
- NelsonMinar 4y ago
  Even that image is a little confusing; the strong red/blue line in the middle made me wonder if there was a seam between two panels. The red sugar packet on the left is the only thing that unambiguously indicates it's a single continuous panel.

maximus-decimus 4y ago

It makes me laugh how this is literally the opposite of my 5120x1440 neo g9. Larger avoid having to stretch your neck as much, but I have to admit this 16:18 would save a lot of desk space.

JackGreyhat 4y ago
Do you like your monitor? I've been wanting to buy it, but I've been reading mixed things about text clarity or sharpness. What's your experience?

bmcahren 4y ago

60hz no thanks

iLoveOncall 4y ago

This is surprisingly reasonably priced.

moneywoes 4y ago

How different is this from flipping a 16:9 display

meatmanek 4y ago
It's equivalent to putting two 16:9 displays on top of each other, but in the same device.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> How different is this from flipping a 16:9 display It's 16:18, nearly square. Flipping a 16:9 is 9:16, tall and skinny. Not very similar at all.

pcurve 4y ago

It's definitely smaller than I was expecting. 18.2" x 19" My 27" display is almost 25" wide.

humanistbot 4y ago
Pythagoras's revenge....
meatmanek 4y ago
Maybe I'm bad at reading, but it would be nice if the page explained "this is the equivalent of two 20-inch 16:9 monitors stacked" instead of having to bust out the Pythagorean theorem.
- tom_ 4y ago
  The specs panel has Dimension without Stand (W x H x D): 481.5 x 549.5 x 44.9 mm
- lvass 4y ago
  It's approximately two 21.345-inches stacked, not 20.
- kllrnohj 4y ago
  http://displaywars.com/27,6-inch-d%7B16x18%7D-vs-27-inch-16x9 http://displaywars.com/27,6-inch-d%7B16x18%7D-vs-27-inch-16x... I love that site for comparing displays across aspect ratios.
mdp2021 4y ago
According to what you are writing, it is much bigger than your display: if your display had a 27'' diagonal, and was 25'' wide, it would be 10'' tall. (Which makes little sense: it would be a 5:2 proportion.) So it would have an area of 250 sqi. Versus the ~350 sqi of the LG. (It is quite a jump: the rounded √2 jump, 5:7, Ax proportion, "do it twice to double".) The steeper (or flatter) the proportion, the less the area per diagonal size. But I guess the display for comparison is more likely a 24''x13'' scarce, ~300 sqi.

llaolleh 4y ago

Unrelated but I've cycled through monitors and found LG monitors to be the best. They have a reading mode which takes care of most eye strain. That reading most had stopped 95% of my eye strain attacks.

mdp2021 4y ago
> They have a reading mode How does it work?
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- llaolleh 4y ago
  It's a built in mode that you can navigate to with the single button on the monitor.
moltar 4y ago
Any specific models you’d recommend?
- llaolleh 4y ago
  There's a 35 inch ultra wide that goes on Sale on Costco often. I'd recommend that one.

Rapzid 4y ago

Still waiting for LG to come out with a better 27/28 inch HDR monitor. I LOVE my Ultra Gear, but the edge-lit HDR zones could really use a refresh.

happy_pancake 4y ago

Anyone know of a good touchscreen monitor/display for events? I am using the lenovo m14t connected to a mac but looking for better options..?

CoastalCoder 4y ago
Probably helpful if you say more about your required size, resolution, brightness, durability, portability, price, etc.
- happy_pancake 4y ago
  24 inches or smaller touch screen, 1920x1080 res, vesa mount preferably! No need to be portable. If there’s square-ish displays that’ll be cool too! Thanks!

sbf501 4y ago

My cervical vertebrae are cowering in fear. I'd rather twist left to right and put the burden on muscles, than over-articulate my neck.

willio58 4y ago
I’ve been using a vertical monitor recently and I have to say I haven’t noticed any pain. I don’t tend to look up and down with my head, I simply move my eyes up and down
- Schiendelman 4y ago
  Oh you won’t notice the pain. You’ll notice in 20 years.
  - bartvk 4y ago
    Can you expand on this ominous prediction? What are your experiences?
    - sbf501 4y ago
      I used to be able to ride a bicycle for hours on end in my 20's and 30's. Now I can't look up when bent over in that position, I need a rise in the handlebars to get me almost vertical. I didn't hurt myself. I didn't get in an accident. It is just a fundamentally unnatural position and the discs just started to deteriorate from years of holding that position. My bikes were sized and fit properly, and I was doing everything right and everything felt OK for literally decades until one day it wasn't OK.
      - arghwhat 4y ago
        Intense bike positions require you to statically position the neck at almost 90 degrees to look forward, and keeping the neck maxed out like that is probably not great in the long run. The articulation to look up/down is maybe +/- 15 degrees, and being dynamic it should be a positive movement that strengthens your neck. That you have reduced neck flexibility decades later could easily just be age…

vehemenz 4y ago

It's nice to see large manufacturers break out of the 16:9 mold, although I think 4:3, 3:2, or 5:4 would be better for most users. Unfortunately, LG is letting the supply chain dictate panel size for their product team, instead of the other way around. This is no doubt a byproduct of their decision to stop building their own panels in 2020.

lambdaba 4y ago
3:2 is ideal, Microsoft's Surface Book series have it
- saiya-jin 4y ago
  Its rather close to 16:10 which is more ubiquitous (I have 32" one funnily enough from LG from pre-covid times, and oh boy was I glad I bought when it came). It feels so natural to my eyes, I definitely don't want vertical panel but 16:9 is pretty crap for any kind of work.
- pkz 4y ago
  ...and the Acer Swift. A great screen size for programmers.
- arthurfm 4y ago
  Huawei's MateView 28.2" monitor too. It has a 3840 x 2560 resolution (which is slightly more than the 2560 x 2880 resolution of the LG DualUp), although sadly is not VESA mountable.
- layer8 4y ago
  I believe I’d slightly prefer 16:11 if that existed, but it’s pretty close to 3:2.
  - karamanolev 4y ago
    3:2 is 16:10.66, so basically the same as 16:11.

jvolkman 4y ago

I've been using 43 inch 4k displays as monitors for 3 years now and don't think I could go back to anything smaller. Font size at native scaling is just right for me and there's plenty of real estate.

koverda 4y ago
I’m up to dual 75 inch 8k and it feels just right. Tried going down to 43 inches and it felt cramped.
- PainfullyNormal 4y ago
  Would you be willing to post a picture of your setup? That sounds insanely cool.
- immigrantheart 4y ago
  How do you even able to read it? From what distance?
- xur17 4y ago
  I was considering this recently, but didn't find a good curved version. What do you use?

rsync 4y ago

EIZO makes a 1:1 monitor you can buy off the shelf right now: https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/ https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/

dmix 4y ago
I like how they target programmers specifically on their landing page. I wonder how well it works in practice. I typically have multiple tabs open so I don’t mind going wide over long. But it is easier to look down rather than sideways.
- ahmedfromtunis 4y ago
  What I'm really concerned about is having to look down for longer periods of time with monitors like these. I used to have a terrible back pain that magically disappeared when I elevated my laptop so that the screen is at my eye level. I still have a lighter version of this pain whenever I have to work for an extended period from a coffee shop or wherever I can't elevate the laptop.
somat 4y ago
I love it, perhaps we are entering a golden age of 1:1 screens. I had a blackberry passport and the second greatest thing about it was that it had a square screen and took square pictures.
markonen 4y ago
It’s a great test case for your “is this display landscape or portrait” functions
steanne 4y ago
i have that and the one thing i don't like about it is the max rate is 60hz. even 75 would be fine; i don't need amazing, just a bit more than 60. this new lg monitor has really neat features: the picture by picture and the built-in kvm are clever and useful, but it has the same 60hz.
stonogo 4y ago

alin23 4y ago

Looks like some users of Lunar (https://lunar.fyi https://lunar.fyi) are already using this monitor: https://files.alinpanaitiu.com/6a7515174ddd729a3df47063ee7601da87c15ed3.png https://files.alinpanaitiu.com/6a7515174ddd729a3df47063ee760... Some notable data points: - supports DDC brightness control (controlling the real brightness of the monitor using Lunar on Mac, TwinkleTray on Windows or ddcutil on Linux) - supports DDC volume control - supports Lunar's XDR Brightness feature (https://lunar.fyi/#xdr) which means that in HDR mode the full brightness of the display can be unlocked and used for SDR content - although the specs page reports a typical brightness of 300nits so not sure if this has any effect - it isn't recognized as HiDPI by macOS (this used to cause blurry text, not sure if this is the case here but BetterDisplay is a thing these days so not an issue) If you want to dig deeper, you can find the same data here: https://db.lunar.fyi https://db.lunar.fyi And here's the query I used: SELECT name, ddc, "canChangeVolume", orientation, width, height, "dotsPerInch", "maxEDR", "potentialEDR", "refreshRate", "isHiDPI", "isRetina", "isSmartDisplay", ("kCGDisplayID" <= 10) as "appleSilicon", -- M1 assigns IDs from 2 to 10, Intel uses much larger IDs * FROM displays WHERE name ILIKE '%SDQHD%' AND "DisplayProductID" != 0 -- Filter out those in a semi-connected state

kposehn 4y ago
I used Better Display with it (very useful tool) but it only partially improved the scaling instead of resolving entirely. It still has banding, jagged edges and some lag.

ComputerGuru 4y ago

I’ve been looking for a replacement for my 16:10 HP zr30w with either high-dpi or high-fps (not that this is particularly either) and have been coming up high-and-dry. This looks like an alternative worth exploring instead of the garbage 16:9 flooding the market with unusable high-dpi real estate. But it doesn’t have VESA? I’m all for the “save desk space” mantra that’s plastered all over their marketing materials, but my solution was a wall/stud-mounted gas spring fully-articulated VESA mount that I’ve used across several monitors. I definitely don’t want a desk-clamped alternative that will flatter and shake as I type vigorously on my mechanical keyboard (on anything that isn’t a solid, handcrafted wood desk that takes four people to move).

ravis11 4y ago
I'm pretty sure it has a Vesa mount. Their specs say wall-mountable 100x100 and other sites say its a Vesa 100x100 mount.
- kposehn 4y ago
  I can confirm it works with VESA mounts without issue. I’m using an Ergotron arm mounted to the wall and it went on no problem.
  - ComputerGuru 4y ago
    Thanks for confirming! The pictures made it seem like it wasn’t VESA compatible.
locofocos 4y ago
I'm using the included monitor stand. The monitor definitely can move relative to my desk if I shake my desk, but it's noticeably sturdier than a cheap (but highly rated) monitor arm from Amazon. I'm personally pleased using the monitor stand.

puppycodes 4y ago

its a great monitor if your productivity standards are high and your visual quality standards are low

mdp2021 4y ago
Which specification details you see as bad?
- robertoandred 4y ago
  The ppi
  - mdp2021 4y ago
    140ppi is bad at book's distance but fair at arm's (or, monitor's) distance, and a definite progress from the traditional ~90ppi.

JimRoepcke 4y ago

I received one last week. Works great on my M1 MBP. I have a 16:9 monitor above the MBP and the LG to the right of it, but now I want to get a keyboard, trackpad and webcam so I can swap the positions of the monitors and have the LG as my main monitor. My only complaint is it’s not as wide as a 27” monitor despite having the same resolution as Thunderbolt Displays / 27” iMacs. So the pixels are smaller. The width is closer to a 24” 16:9. But I love the stand, and everything else about it.

aviditas 4y ago
Yes! The stand is really great; I have mine on an adjustable height desk and it takes up so little space. Which is perfect as I have so little space to work with. I got it recently and for me it's spot on as my main monitor. The built-in two device kvm saves me so much time. I can't speak to the resolution woes as I was using two very, very old monitors at home so I've just been basking in the glow of using something made recently. I've been enjoying the vertical space for tasks like going through logs/giant spreadsheets and then switching to the dual monitor mode for the usual multi-tasking. I've used dual 32in curved fancy monitors at the office before and found that I would just use a fourth of the real estate available. My brain prefers the vertical space over the horizontal.
kposehn 4y ago
Were you able to get proper hidpi scaling on it without artifacts/blurriness or are you just letting it run at native scaling?
- djcollier 4y ago
  My solution has been to use it as a second monitor, run it at native resolution, and only use it for apps where I can reliablably increase the font size (terminals, web apps/pages with good zoom support). I keep VSCode on my high DPI main monitor.

oumua_don17 4y ago

There is also this new ergo dual 27 display from LG. [1] [1] https://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-27qp88d-b# https://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-27qp88d-b#

brentadamson 4y ago
Can you daisy chain another set of these so that I have 4 monitors total or can you just daisy chain one set?
- nopcode 4y ago
  Not on apple and probably only 30Hz with windows. 4 x 1440p@60Hz is ± 26.6 Gbps which is really pushing it for displayport 1.3

linsomniac 4y ago

I've been running two 4K 30" displays in this form factor for 3-4 months and love it. I put the upper monitor on an arm above the lower. The upper is a bit too high for doing regular work on, but it's great status stuff (slack, music player, bugtracker, e-mail, ...). The down side of this LG is that it's about the price I paid for the two 30" 4K displays... The curse of irregular displays, losing economies of scale.

pcurve 4y ago
Would love to see your desk setup ;-)
- linsomniac 4y ago
  https://photos.app.goo.gl/BzcR4Q12MzL8bTiFA https://photos.app.goo.gl/BzcR4Q12MzL8bTiFA To answer the first question I'm likely to get: The blue painters tape is a "cat napping on the laptop keyboard when I'm away prevention device".

kposehn 4y ago

I’ve had one of these for a few weeks and am returning it. Here’s my take: - The aspect ratio is great when rotated 90 degrees. I really liked having more vertical room for coding and documents. - Screen scaling with Mac OS does not work well. I’ve been using BetterDisplay to address this but it still suffers from lag, banding and pixelation. As a result I’m returning and getting a BenQ 32” 4K. If the scaling issues on mac are addressed later on I may revisit it.

likeclockwork 4y ago
That's unfortunate. I was hoping to get one of these as an external monitor for an MBP. I do have to wonder though, you're saying 'Screen scaling with Mac OS' and 'scaling issues on mac' but this is just a monitor, Isn't that "MacOS screen scaling does not work well" and "mac scaling issues" rather than any defect with the device itself?
- kposehn 4y ago
  I was disappointed too. In the end the vastly improved aspect ratio and ergonomics could not overcome the unpleasant screen quality. While Mac OS has never had an issue with other monitors and scaling replies in my experience, it does for the DualUp. I’m not knowledgeable enough about the various protocols to know if this is Apple or LG’s responsibility, but the end result is not pleasant.
  - acchow 4y ago
    I believe for Apple's rescaling to work properly, it needs to be able to render at 2x resolution on both axes (4x resolution total). So for this 2560 x 2880, it needs a GPU to render internally at 5210x5760. That is 30MP. Can your GPU actually do this?
    - kposehn 4y ago
      I’m unsure if that’s possible. Running a Mac Studio M1 Ultra.

system2 4y ago

A 4k 32" monitor is $300. Why pay $700 for this when we can use a similar one? Is it just the ratio?

moltar 4y ago
Any you’d recommend in this price range? I’m looking for something like MacBook “retina” quality. Thank you.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> A 4k 32" monitor is $300. Why pay $700 for this when we can use a similar one? Is it just the ratio? Yes, it's the ratio.

DavidVoid 4y ago

If you're curious what a setup with three of these would look like, there was a post on r/battlestations today by an app developer who uses three of them [0]. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/vv2tca/app_developer_wfh_setup/ https://old.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/vv2tca/app_...

wodenokoto 4y ago

So this is two 16:9 stacked on top of each other. Each with 2560x1440 resolution and each … how many inches?

layer8 4y ago

I’m waiting for a 200+ DPI OLED monitor with something like 4500 x 3000 resolution.

orthoxerox 4y ago

I wish USB-C single cable solution would become standard on all screens, along with a built-in USB/BT hub. Then we could revisit the idea of thumbstick PCs. I am not a big fan of laptops and would gladly carry a Mars bar-sized computer with me instead.

closeparen 4y ago
I used to work with someone who carried an Intel NUC in his backpack rather than the standard issue laptop.
- orthoxerox 4y ago
  I was given a NUC-sized PC when we switched to WFH and liked it more than a laptop, but I still had to carry a power brick with it, doubling the bulk. Getting DC from the display would've been much more convenient.

zone411 4y ago

I got them recently as the side monitors for a 16:9 43'' 4k in the middle. The height matches almost perfectly. I love this layout so far, so much desktop space and such high resolution! And it's nice to have a big 16:9 screen in the middle for videos. Finally a worthy replacement for my three 10-year-old 30'' 16:10 Dells. For people who work in Windows: you will want to use https://github.com/mgth/LittleBigMouse https://github.com/mgth/LittleBigMouse and you'll need to modify the registry to work around this issue https://github.com/mgth/LittleBigMouse/issues/80 https://github.com/mgth/LittleBigMouse/issues/80 if you don't want your mouse cursor to jump vertically during screen transitions.

stevejb 4y ago
What 43" monitor are you using? Do you happen to have a picture of your setup?

SergeAx 4y ago

This is a perfect one for crypto traders! These days they should rotate their 16:9 vertically to see the full depth of assets plunged. Now they will have this and see much longer history at the same time.

tradertef 4y ago
Horrible and tasteless comment. HN crowd takes every opportunity to attack Bitcoin.
- charles_kaw 4y ago
  Because the cryptocurrency community demonstrated incredible hubris, and even mocked "no-coiners" constantly. So, it shouldn't be a surprise that some people would respond in kind. I don't think it's great to mock people for losing their life savings, but that's where it's coming from I think.
  - Phileosopher 4y ago
    From a population perspective, all groups of people will have a disproportionate fringe of memorable behaviors. I've always found it odd that people group an entire community together like that, which may be the fact that I'm on the spectrum. The crypto jerks aren't necessarily the ones who quietly used blockchain investments as an attempt to invest. Can't say they made a wise decision, but it's just bad form to strike someone when they're down. They still came out better than taking $40K in consumer debt!
- SergeAx 4y ago
  I left you a perfect chance to retort with a joke about future crypto-assets growth, but you chose just to whine lamely. No wonder crypto bros are so non-likable.
  - tradertef 4y ago
    The problem is not the joke, the problem is persistence of hate towards Bitcoin from people in the tech community. I guess tech-bros are non-likeable to most people as well.

what-imright 4y ago

Get this! Amazon lets you pay $140/mo to buy it on many accounts. I think that’s a golden deal (And I ordered)

aldeluis 4y ago

I bought a LG 4k monitor with ERGO mount (32UN880-B.AEU). After the first week of use the useful small USB-C connector (power + video) was ripped off the back of the monitor PCB because the only mechanical support of this connector was the solder, no additional support to the chassis. A big hole where you can see the PCB. Seems that there's no problem for this method of attachment in bigger connectors (HDMI or DisplayPort) but the soldered attachment of USB-C is not strong. It needs additional support to the chassis. The minimal movement of the included stiff usb-c cable when moving the ERGO mount will tear the connector off the PCB. My monitor is broken and technical service didn't take responsibility. Money lost, never again LG.

nsonha 4y ago

with the added height of the monitor, this barely make it a monitor that has does not need external arm to be tall enough for correct posture. Monitors sold on the market are hazardously low, I always need an arm or several books stacked to pad them. There should be some health regulation around this.

GoOnThenDoTell 4y ago

This would be amazing it it were 2x4k rather 2x1440p