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I’ve heard more excitement about Disney+ from family/friends than any other tech launch I can remember. Short of maybe the original iPhone, and maybe the Ninten

• colechristensen 7y ago
  I'm not even remotely interested and haven't heard a word about it from anyone I know. I don't like throwing around words like evil much any more but I don't like Disney and can't see why I would want the service even if I did.
  • dwoozle 7y ago
    I’ve never bought a bra but somehow they manage to sell a lot of them.
• chrisseaton 7y ago
  > are counting down the days until it launches I don't understand - Disney already has a streaming service - DisneyLife. Why's everyone talking about Disney+ like you can't already stream Disney's classic movies, and Marvel, and Star Wars content, all in one place?
  • judge2020 7y ago
    DisneyLife is geo-restricted if i'm not mistaken, D+ will actually be in the US.
  • surye 7y ago
    I don't think DisneyLife is available in the US.
  • Mindwipe 7y ago
    You mean DisneyLife in the UK? That doesn't have any Marvel or Star Wars titles on it.
    • chrisseaton 7y ago
      I’m not imagining them! I subscribe for my daughter and it definitely does.
• judge2020 7y ago
  Their advertising and announcements seem to be very well executed, watching some relatives scroll through Twitter/Facebook recently showed a pretty large proportion of D+ ads.
• RcouF1uZ4gsC 7y ago
  > I’ve heard more excitement about Disney+ from family/friends than any other tech launch I can remember. Short of maybe the original iPhone, and maybe the Nintendo Switch. Techies and non-techies alike are counting down the days until it launches. I am one of those people. I can’t wait to sign up for Disney streaming and ditch Netflix. For me, Netflix is just full of filler with annoying ads touting a garbage Netflix series (I Land anybody) At least with Disney, I know I will be getting a strong catalog (classic cartoons, Star Wars, Marvel)
  • blaser-waffle 7y ago
    Man the marketing bots are out in force today. Either HN really loves Disney -- skeptical of that -- or Disney is pushing hard. And they have the money to do so.
    • pkroll 7y ago
      You think a site full of nerds is somehow not fans of animation, Star Wars, and Marvel movies? I'd contend that not one 'marketing bot' is involved at all. Disney's a monstrous company that's twisted Copyright to its own ends... but Marvel movies alone will drag me in.
• beamatronic 7y ago
  I don’t know anyone who has stated they would not get it. I know 1 person who prepaid 1 year already. I got more excited when I found out the Pixar shorts like Piper will be on there. I see it as an “all you can eat” delight!
  • Aarostotle 7y ago
    Hail corporate!
  • judge2020 7y ago
    Also, earlier this year you could sign up for "D23" and get D+ for 3 years at $4/month (which I did). https://www.businessinsider.com/extended-d23-disney-plus-deal-for-4-per-month-2019-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/extended-d23-disney-plus-dea...
• sytelus 7y ago
  I'm super careful about exposing Disney content to my kids. The especially pre-2000 era Disney content is absolutely damaging and well documented in the academic community for that. Disney content gets created to increasing shareholder value, not for the long term well-being of your child. This means anything that can get kids addicted on easy entertainment sudar and spend more money on toys, books, trips is a good thing. In addition, I've become very averse to starting subscriptions given how hard they are to get rid off and stay underutilized. I already have Netflix, Amazon Prime, Xfinity and now I also have to do individual networks and studios? This is one reason I don't think newspaper, magazine and more subscriptions are going to fly as long term business model. People will sonner or later realize that everything cost same as cup of coffee but we are just being forced to buy way too many cups.
  • wgjordan 7y ago
    > The especially pre-2000 era Disney content is absolutely damaging and well documented in the academic community for that. I'd be interested in follow-up reading on the academic research you're gesturing towards here- do you have links or any specific names/citations that would point to the material you have in mind?
    • sytelus 7y ago
      There was a good discussion (I can't get link) where an expert basically said that STEM enrollment for girls fell through the roof in last few decades is highly correlated with series of Disney movies that virtually every young girl was exposed to multiple times building their characters as "template" which deeply affected psycology of these children. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/24/princess-culture-is-bad-for-girls-now-theres-proof/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/24/... https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/disney-movies-to-not-show-kids-watch-frozen-robin-hood-cinderella-snow-white-why-a8590296.html https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/disney-movies... https://srcd.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cdev.12569 https://srcd.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cdev.12... https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-011-9930-7 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-011-9930-7 http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.933.5026&rep=rep1&type=pdf http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.933... https://scholarworks.sjsu.edu/etd_theses/4094/ https://scholarworks.sjsu.edu/etd_theses/4094/ https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-017-0773-8 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-017-0773-8 http://www.hillpublisher.com/UpFile/201803/2018032844432581.pdf http://www.hillpublisher.com/UpFile/201803/2018032844432581.... https://firescholars.seu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1053&context=honors https://firescholars.seu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=105... https://macsphere.mcmaster.ca/handle/11375/14406 https://macsphere.mcmaster.ca/handle/11375/14406 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_The_Walt_Disney_Company#Disney_Consumer_Products https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_The_Walt_Disney_C...
• specialp 7y ago
  Disney is probably the only media company with enough of a portfolio to have people add another streaming service in addition to Netflix or replace it. NBC/ATT/Apple don't really have a chance IMO. It is sad but we are going to move back to a federated "bundle" of streaming services a la what cable was for TV.
  • judge2020 7y ago
    Apple's strategy seems to just give their service away for the next year or two (to anyone who buys an iPhone) and hope a few million people like their first-party shows. $5/month for the family (well, max. 6 people) is also not a hard thing to push for the iPhone demographic.
    • Terretta 7y ago
      Just like Amazon Prime. Let's not pretend most people are actually subscribing to it... "As a Prime member, you can already watch thousands of popular movies and TV shows at no extra cost, including exclusives and award-winning Amazon Originals available in over 200 countries and territories worldwide. Save even more with exclusive deals on video purchases." No 'extra cost'? All that content isn't free. I feel about this much as I do about cable subscriptions by default including the cost of ESPN and other sports channels: May I not subsidize this, please?
      • josteink 7y ago
        > Just like Amazon Prime. Let's not pretend most people are actually subscribing to it... People outside the US may actually do that, because they don’t get Prime and thus they don’t get Prime Video as a free rider. Personally I subscribed to it for The Grand Tour alone. For $4 a month, I find that worthwhile.
        • fnord123 7y ago
          >People outside the US may actually do that, because they don’t get Prime and thus they don’t get Prime Video as a free rider. Prime and Prime Video are available and bundled outside the US.
• banachtarski 7y ago
  Opinion: Disney content these days is absolutely awful. I'm not enjoying the films, the shows, or anything really. They spend more time doing remakes for a global audience (read. China), and compromise the quality of the end result.
  • scarface74 7y ago
    Well, whether it’s “awful” as far as your taste is an opinion you have every right to have, but looking at their successes in the box office, it’s clearly valuable. That’s all that matters.
    • banachtarski 7y ago
      Yea it's working for them, free speech be damned. Won't stop me from voting with my dollar though.
    • apatters 7y ago
      Is it really? There are only five major studios which command 80-85% of the US box office [1], and by extension a major share of all global box office returns. Five corporate boards exercise creative control over nearly all of Hollywood. That's not much competition, and they seem to have arrived at a consensus about what kind of content we should experience at the theater. Who says the content is valuable? Can you prove that the cash generation value is in the content and not the strictly regulated, consolidation-friendly oligopoly structure which Clinton put in place for these guys in the 90s? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_film_studio https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_film_studio
      • austhrow743 7y ago
        Clinton didn't introduce a mandate that people go to the cinema.
      • taurath 7y ago
        People willing to pay for it says content is valuable, or at least valuable enough for a few hours of time.
• gremlinsinc 7y ago
  I can't agree more. They're a draconian company eating megacorp, but they fixed star wars. Rogue one is probably my favorite after RotJ. 1-3 are dead to me. Don't exist. Jon Favreau's a pretty decent director, so I'm excited to see how the Mandalorian turns out. Honestly I feel I need to launch a side project w/ passive income so I can retire and have enough for everything I want to stream off disney+... lol -- I'm 40 this month, and have two kids (2 and 10 months) and they're obviously going to love d+... I think D+, Hulu, Prime, and Netflix are really all you need for streaming... maybe HBO, though I don't know if I'll have time for all that content. I think network TV might die soon, w/ the streaming options nobody's going to need cable or even Over-the-air tv anymore. Nobody's going to be watching NBC, ABC, etc unless they're direct-to-netflix/hulu etc...
  • i_am_nomad 7y ago
    They fixed Star Wars the same way the vet fixed my dog. “The Last Jedi” was an atrocious film. “Solo” was excruciating fan service that ironically pleased none of the fans.
    • chipotle_coyote 7y ago
      The Last Jedi was clearly a polarizing film, and it's fine if you didn't like it, but I think it's worth keeping in mind that the movie... * Has an 85/100 on Metacritic ("Universal Acclaim") * Has a 91% score on Rotten Tomatoes * Made $619M So it was both a box office success and a critical success. Personally, I think it's far from an atrocious film. I think it's a flawed film, although my complaints have to do with structure and film mechanics, not story choices.
      • gremlinsinc 7y ago
        None of them are perfect (except maybe RO imho), all exceeded my expectations (Lucas set that pretty low after 1-3).
      • megablast 7y ago
        It made $1.333 billion.
• HBKXNCUO 7y ago
  Maybe give them a book instead.
• Fezzik 7y ago
  My hunch is that, at least as far as the originals are concerned, Disney+ will only have the butchered-Gredo-never-shoots versions of 4-6. Do yourself and your loved ones a favor and track down Harney’s Despecilized Edition of 4-6 those are the only versions worth watching. Edit: corrected the version numbers, dunno what I was thinking when I first typed the comment.
  • pkroll 7y ago
    Just to be pedantic: in the original, Gredo really doesn't ever shoot, Solo just puts him down. So that's not the butchered version: Gredo shooting and Han's head moving unnaturally to the side, that there is an abomination available on blu-ray and DVD everywhere. And what we'll almost certainly have on Disney+. (I'd guess it was part of George's contract when he sold to Disney, that they can't release the originals.) And yes, the Despecialized versions are wonderful and worth hunting down.
• Angostura 7y ago
  Interesting. In the UK, I've heard nothing. I don't even know if they are launching.
  • kmlx 7y ago
    March 31. Still a few months to go. I assume that's why.