thinkfurther

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by thinkfurther 9y ago
It wasn't really a problem for the Nazis though. Hannah Arendt explained how in a way defying reality is a badge of honor for members (of one of the onion layers of) totalitarian movements.
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
This is 100% off-topic and just about WP, but something just occured to me: I wish Wikipedia had a way to make new articles as stubs and mark them as such, so they don't show up on the main page, unless people are logged in and want th
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
I'm not new to HN, I just ditch accounts when they approach 500 karma because I'm edgy like that.
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
Your link does not support the claim that that is how Hitler got into power at all. Read the book. Don't pass "go", don't collect $400, and spare me more pop history. I lead you to water, now drink or don't.
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
Fair enough. I agree in that I think it's lame it had to happen this way, but I'm still glad it happened this way rather than not at all.
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
> actually all those real successes as a politican made him being voted to become Germans fuerer. Where do you have this from? From a computer game or a movie? From a gumball machine? Read this book. https://www.goodreads.com&
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
> I would also add that the rules should be as specific as possible, since vague terms like "hateful ideology" can be applied to almost anything controversial. I didn't say "Yup, hateful ideology", I said "Y
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
> All political ideologues think their opposition wants to take away their freedoms. If you make the rule that people who want to remove freedoms don't get them Analogous would be "if you make the rule that people who you thin
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
Just like the right to free speech is useless without a spirit of tolerance in the population, the same goes for inciting violence being illegal. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlottesv...
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
I decided to never even attempt to enter the US somewhere after 2001. Not until a bunch of things change (well, they did change; for the worse). What's the use of flying across the big pond if you can get turned away that nilly willy?
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
> The current boundary is speech that immediately incites violence Well good luck then. Just like Hitler famously wanted people to not wait for his orders, but distill his wishes and creatively go beyond in doing things in his spirit to
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
I'm not saying it, I'm asking it. What more do you need than swastikas and glorification of the holocaust and so on? I love how the bar there seems to be raised so high that even Adolf Hitler might not qualify as Nazi to some peop
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
Convenient relabeling? I beg your pardon? Aren't you just conveniently making up shit right now?
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
Nothing about being German in there? Nothing about hating Jews? Or any of the other things that the Nazis espoused just because they were handy, and which had nothing to do with "the ideology" because there isn't one ? This
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
What about them? How were they not fascists, for all practical purposes?
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
> I think the sentiment GP is trying to communicate is that many seem to throw the label out there without any further investigation as to whether its justified. That's great, but totally irrelevant here, in response to me, in this
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
Tell me what "the ideology" is then.
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
For those who downvote me: so you're actually believing I call "anyone I don't like" a Nazi? How fucking pathetic is that? And no I don't care about the votes, I just want you to stop and realize how incredibly du
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
Who's talking about unreliability? I'm talking about perfectly reliable tools of oppression.
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
> Did not go well. And you're telling me this, why? > We should be careful to a) not call everything Nazi Oh I see, that's why. Well, you should be careful to c) not confuse me with anyone else.
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
This isn't mere hate, and I'm not "mandating tolerance" either. I'm mandating you at least read people like Hannah Arendt and Sebastian Haffner instead of you projecting your naivety on me.
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
Yeah, and you'll take it all down with your foolishness.
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
You too should read this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15032018 and maybe this for good measure: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15014737 I forgot nothing, I'd rather say I know things you
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
> I may not be able to understand where White Supremists are coming from, but I fully appreciate their right to free speech. These two facts are connected. Another example would be not being fully sure what bleach exactly is, but being a
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
"Yup, they're Nazis". What more due process do you require?
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
Sunlight in this case would be doing for Nazis what they themselves won't do because they're unable -- recognize them for who they are and act accordingly. > In the echo chamber of extremism, there is now no moderating thought
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
> My opinion may be unpopular, however. I'm one of those folks that believe that everyone, equally, deserves to be able to express their thoughts, beliefs, and beliefs regardless of whether I agree with them. You may want to read th
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
Damning? I find it humble and self-deprecating to call a lucid moment as this a "bad mood".
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
relevant: https://twitter.com/zarzarbinkss/status/897880604309684224 from "Der Fremde in uns" ("The Stranger Within Us") by Arno Gruen.. from one of the last chapters, crappy translation below
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by thinkfurther 9y ago
> Most early humans cooperated and shared because they spent their entire lives surrounded by the same a few hundred people. That and, as far as I understand, when they went hunting, only a few get lucky, and those couldn't eat all

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