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theprincess
3y ago
> the argument against irreversibly treating children is still a reasonable position Allowing a trans child to go through their natal puberty is not a neutral act. A trans person who "passes" has a much better lifetime outcome
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theprincess
3y ago
> If you're not ideologically invested in this topic and are sincerely interested in the truth, I'd urge you to look at your own country from an outsider's point of view. The point being, many sources in the US that were r
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theprincess
3y ago
I think you're ideologically motivated, and arguing from a position of emotional distaste for trans people rather than unbiased concern about medical practice. Here's why: > any legitimate discussion or criticism about gender-a
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theprincess
3y ago
> The UK and the EU have moved away from gender-affirming care and designated it an experimental treatment. The UK and EU are hardly a paradise for trans people. Until recently they even REQUIRED trans people to be sterilized, I suppose
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theprincess
3y ago
> A shallow dismissal, a perfectly reasonable argument against irreversible action for changing children’s genders is that many of them aren’t so sure as it seems and later want to transition back. About 2% want to transition back. 98% a
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theprincess
3y ago
Children with gender dysphoria are not "perfectly healthy." They have a serious problem. The level of hubris in assuming that all these heterosexual parents, many of them conservative, would just up and decide to "trans"
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theprincess
3y ago
> Being intersex is very rare and unfortunate, and I am sympathetic to those with such birth defects. Agnes Torres was not intersex, she was merely classed as such which allowed her to live a normal life. Funny enough, your comment itsel
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theprincess
3y ago
> Not really though, it's perfectly possible to be gender non-conforming without undergoing drastic medical procedures. In particular, all the women and men who reject the societal impositions of femininity and masculinity, while st
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theprincess
3y ago
> Gay people don't require any medical interventions to be gay, so it's not really the same thing. Many homophobes have made "medical" arguments about why sodomy should be banned. Aids was seen as a "gay disease&
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theprincess
3y ago
> I think you're jumping to conclusions --- my reading of GP is that "the cause" == dysphoria. Conversion therapists like Ken Zucker know full well about gender dysphoria and helped create the old "gender identity dis
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theprincess
3y ago
> pushed into taking these experimental treatments for a few months It's a shame that this person was in such a difficult situation, but, barring some extraordinarily rare reaction, a few months would not cause long term problems. T
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theprincess
3y ago
And yet, Lupron has been used since the 1970's to treat precocious puberty and every single ban on using it for gender affirming care still allows it to be administered for that purpose. Medical associations also approve its use, in bo
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theprincess
3y ago
Puberty blockers have been administered as a valid treatment for precocious puberty for many decades. All of the bans on them specifically still allow them to be used for this purpose, because they are indeed safe enough. It's just tha
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theprincess
3y ago
Controversial theory, most of the people who claim to be "ready", and seem oddly excited about the possibility of upheaval and turmoil, are already lost down some sort of algorithm induced ideological rabbit hole. Conveniently, on
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theprincess
3y ago
The common thread between homophobia and transphobia is a dislike of gender non-conformity. Since the days of Ernst Rohm [0] there has been an element of the gay community convinced that gender non-conforming gays - femmes - were the real p
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theprincess
3y ago
Calling gender affirming care "gay conversion therapy" is a disingenuous tactic deployed by anti-trans activists. One of the most common things that parents who disown their trans kids say is "why can't you just be gay&q
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theprincess
3y ago
I think you're right. On one side, you see adults who believe that sexuality and cross-gender identification are immutable, or at least practically immutable. Their goal is to expose e.g. heterosexual kids to the idea that some of thei
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theprincess
3y ago
You'll also notice that the logo makes the face from the "NPC" memes that would have still been popular among the 4chan "politically incorrect" crowd right around the time this project was allegedly started. Sadly,
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theprincess
3y ago
I'm curious to know what sorts of things you were thinking about when you wrote this. The tone of it reads as emotional and defensive rather than informative. It would probably contribute more to the discussion if you expressed your ow
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theprincess
3y ago
> You have seriously misunderstood the entire premise of my comment and created a shadow of it that you are now fighting. Okay. > Feminism is a hate masquerading as a fight for women's rights. And I am not engaging any further. B
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theprincess
3y ago
> They are conservative, do not have modern interpretations of gender equality, and have higher birth rates. What are their un-modern interpretations of gender equality that you'd like to see emulated in the USA, Australia and Weste
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theprincess
3y ago
> I think you have assumed the worst from my comment. I assumed that you are against gender equality. Gender equality meaning that men and women are given the freedom to do as they wish without being sanctioned. I think you'll find
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theprincess
3y ago
> treating men and women like they are the same is the first problem Russia is rather socially conservative and their birth rates are low as well. It's quite a stretch to blame low birth rates on gender equality given the scope of c
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theprincess
4y ago
> Please respect the autonomy of the latter group to express a view that you disagree with, due to your differing beliefs. In particular, there's no need to start haranguing people with unfounded accusations of hate. Does it make me
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theprincess
4y ago
Nah, when someone changes their name like in the case of marriage but I don't approve of the marriage for some reason I don't go around calling them by their "real name" and refuse to acknowledge the change. When someone
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theprincess
4y ago
> not even Page herself I see that you're not ideologically motivated here. ^_^ It's decidedly not "criminal" for an adult to get a surgery that is commonplace for men with gynecomastia just because they have an "
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theprincess
4y ago
Harassing transgender people and defaming them the way that Peterson did Eliot Page is not simply saying "men are not women." What he actually said was that the surgery that he had, to reduce his breast size in the same way a cis
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theprincess
4y ago
Ending a sentence with "just" is short for "just f ck my sh t up". https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/brendan-frasers-alimony-just-... It's meant to convey a sense of defeat. So in this case the se
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theprincess
4y ago
The tone of your writing suggests that maybe you feel like you're red pilling us or whatever but, yes, we all know that groups exist to lobby corporations to maintain policies that work toward the public good. Many groups exist that do
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theprincess
4y ago
Can you blame them for not wanting accounts spelling out the N word under every promoted tweet that contained a Black person? Or ranting about sodomites any time they saw a rainbow? Advertisers don't flock to 4chan for a reason. Conser
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