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okc
9y ago
So what? The point in having currency is a speculation of value between entities?
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okc
10y ago
My experience (UK) is that landlords screw people over where they can - they want to make money but actually have a social responsibility for housing conditions. Most people I know live in horrible conditions for a little less rent or incre
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okc
10y ago
I'm disregarding your views not censoring them.
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okc
10y ago
Well put. I would further remark that this general debate is more a perspective of reformation versus revolution - which doesn't need to be tied to a capitalist/communist contrast.
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okc
10y ago
but those who don't enjoy it, can't say so. thats not a correct way to solve a problem. its a useless sacrifice.
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okc
10y ago
>if advertisers establish metrics that are more closely aligned with their objectives then we'd all be better off Disagree. Thats a personal value judgment and an ethical perspective viewing efficient corporations as utilitarian bod
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okc
10y ago
The criteria for censorship at the 20 points level - could be debated as - quite healthy criteria. Criteria such as the government controlling online harassment is classed, rightly, as censorship. Political anarchy would be the reflection o
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okc
10y ago
Excellent. I'd love to see a not that handles recruitment too.
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okc
10y ago
>> But is China’s strategy running according to plan? Recent trends in the national identity of the Taiwanese population might suggest otherwise >That's a great example of international propaganda failing to work in China'
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okc
10y ago
"Propaganda is a form of biased communication, aimed at promoting or demoting certain views, perceptions or agendas. Propaganda is often associated with the psychological mechanisms of influencing and altering the attitude of a populat
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okc
10y ago
Now you are just making stuff up. I give up. I don't believe you. I don't believe you can't see the difference between identifying propaganda and being part of it. Your arguments are putting words in my mouth by using straw m
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okc
10y ago
You've confused 'identifying propaganda in action' with 'actively engaging in delivering propaganda'. Over and over again in these threads you have defended Taiwan as a sovereign state. You keep thinking I am attack
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okc
10y ago
I grew up in a similar way. My departure point was somewhere between okc and kid a. I can't stand most their music now. A still like the first 5 EPs but even Pablo honey is a hard listen at times. Funny, really.
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okc
10y ago
Come on. You said I was touting government propaganda. If by that you mean exposing it and its influence. Then yeah.. I hereby tout all government propaganda and always will do. I wish international relations were built on trust. But that&#
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okc
10y ago
Explain. Explain one country that I am in any way supporting the propaganda of. If its because I am drawing attention to Taiwan not being fully recognised, as per our earlier thread. Then that is an assumption based in the fact of it being
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okc
10y ago
What a totally irrelevant post. I was posting about the Chinese government response. The way they handled the problem. At no point is anyone denying the attack. >All the world should have sympathy for each other agasint terrorism. Really
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okc
10y ago
Government workers produce fake social media outside of China too. Public opinion outside of China is very important for business and strategy. Present China as an improving progressive regime, smooth over its human rights problems, and chi
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okc
10y ago
Its all relative. Its not a contradiction to say at the moment China doesn't have much reason to invade - but also point they have had reason before and may again. Let me put it better: they have a latent reason. As someone pointed out
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okc
10y ago
We probably agree on a lot. Our radical different positions are only really evident in the subtleties of semantics. I think thats dangerous for China. People get tortured, killed and have no voice. Things may improve for the masses but if i
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okc
10y ago
I agree with you! Taiwan is peaceful and Taiwanese people are Taiwanese. And yes Taiwan is different to the areas I mentioned. I also agree that China doesn't really have a reason to invade Taiwan. Taiwan isn't recognised internat
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okc
10y ago
Yes, its all about perspective. Perspective based in reality. Context. Take your childbirth example: mortality rate may have improved. This statement is great without context – of course thats improvement right? Now take the context of forc
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okc
10y ago
It is, I agree. But when push comes to shove it demonstrates internationally countries wouldn't support defending Taiwan if China did invade. They couldn't even support Taiwan as a country politically because China bribed and bul
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okc
10y ago
Why not? So you really want me to explain why people should have free speech, at this level of debate, it is unbelievable you could ask - why not? Let me give you the big why not: because your opinion right now is free speech on a forum of
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okc
10y ago
I still don't think so, but can I ask you a question. Do you think there are some strange posts on these threads, written with an underlying tinge of propaganda (not everyone). This morning I woke up to find my original post no further
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okc
10y ago
No its not the only reason I have! as I made clear - it wasn't the reason at all. You reply is meaningless without context. It was one example of many providing a point that statistics are misleading. Especially in describing quality o
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okc
10y ago
Security and crime: Doublespeak. Wages and medicine: actually more inequality than ever. Life expectancy: scraping the barrel. These aren't concrete things. If they were we could, like you say, measure them properly. But even in the be
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okc
10y ago
I think we have both expressed our views. I understand what you mean more with your summary of freedom. We could go over the subtle points for a long time. I believe they mean far more than you might. My overall point is more along the line
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okc
10y ago
The view that life is better is meaningless if you mean its better than mass death and torture. Portraying life as better now, is propaganda. Its a view that affirms the current government policies (even if you don't personally believ
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okc
10y ago
Well, which came first, the government or peoples views on it. When people can't openly express dissatisfaction and are censored and are subject to organised propaganda, then it's very hard to say. Under the communist government p
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okc
10y ago
No, I'm not implying that. I'm implying that I don't understand how his arguments flow - they seem self defeating. For the reasons outlined above. I don't mean it personally, and I don't really care if he is respect
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