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kelthuzad
9mo ago
We are not "helpless" and setting an arbitrary 2-year deadline is a distraction. The DOJ and EU are moving faster than they have in decades. You ask what we can do? We can enforce browser choice screens and allow alternative engin
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kelthuzad
9mo ago
>I mean, @lepton literally wrote this: "Maybe part of their agreement is to not implement some features because it would compete with Chrome" about Firefox. No smearing required. Then you should have been more specific, but tha
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9mo ago
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kelthuzad
9mo ago
>It literally is "everyone must immediately implement anything Chrome shits out". You don't even accept the fact that both Safari and Firefox team reject the entire premise on the same grounds. It isn't factually and
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kelthuzad
9mo ago
It's interesting how the "Apple can do no wrong" shareholders and "I will hate on PWAs no matter what" types, curiously converge and keep regurgitating the same talking points that have been addressed ad nauseam, ev
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9mo ago
>So then why aren't PWA's super-popular on Windows and on Android? Since Safari doesn't affect those? Says who? "Yes, PWAs have become popular on these platforms. I work for Microsoft on the Microsoft Store (app store
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9mo ago
>Funny how you agree that Firefox opposes these non-standards, and how Google rushes things. And immediately turn around and basically say "no-no-no, Apple is to blame and Safari (and, by extension Firefox) must absolutely implement
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9mo ago
You're right that Firefox also opposes some of these specific implementations in its current form, and that Google often rushes features. However, that doesn't diminish Apple's conflict of interest at all, so sometimes thei
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9mo ago
>> And Apple purposely will never implement lots of APIs that only their native apps allow (which other browsers implement) >Can you give an example? Web Bluetooth, Web USB, Web NFC, Web Serial... Of course Apple will uphold its us
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9mo ago
>This is the conspiratorial version. Everything that's inconvenient for your preferred narrative can just be dismissed as conspiratorial thinking, makes the world so much easier - doesnt it? I've compiled some of the evidences
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9mo ago
>Has PWA become popular on unencumbered platforms like Android or Windows? No. Obviously. When a major Gatekeeper systematically holds it back to prevent it from challenging its taxation funnel, then it has no chance of competing and wil
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10mo ago
>Yeah. I worked (past tense) there so guess I’m forever not allowed to disagree with Apple? What? You don't disagree with Apple anywhere in this thread; you are hellbent on defending their consumer hostile and anti-competitive busin
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10mo ago
What a strange non-sequitur. I did not say that "my principles" are being violated, but the principles of U.S. economists, judges and relevant authorities in the United States and their views as to what constitutes a fair market.
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10mo ago
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10mo ago
>Yes, i imagined this happening, my grandma imagined her bank account being empty, and the police imagined filing a report. People have vivid imaginations and still none of that is relevant to what constitutes an anti-competitive busines
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10mo ago
It's not "elitist", it's principled. The only question that matters is if a business practice is violating fair market principles and relevant laws or not. "What about my grandma" is not an argument and not rel
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11mo ago
The RSF are anti-islam, even a cursory reading into their history would have educated any remotely astute reader on this. They don't let the facts get in the way of their propaganda though. Just judging by the frontpage of "europe
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11mo ago
There is no false dilemma. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. "In the meantime, Google’s story that this move is motivated by security it obviously bullshit. First of all, the argument that preventing users
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kelthuzad
11mo ago
>If you’d just said all of this upfront, it would’ve come across as more honest / less confrontational. "I should have elaborated even further, because I already suspected that someone would nitpick that phrasing . So let me
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11mo ago
> Well you realize it’s not a good look to post a citation and then immediately say the article is wrong I did not say that the article is wrong, don't misquote me. You are also still failing to understand what the crucial differenc
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11mo ago
I should have elaborated even further, because I already suspected that someone would nitpick that phrasing. So let me explain the difference: "according to law-enforcement officials" - they are clearly not experts in tech and are
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11mo ago
>Super confused. You aren't confused, you just have a preferred narrative. Hardcore Apple fans and Apple shareholders share a similar bias with different variations of 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when
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11mo ago
This is the "think of the children" equivalent that is being regurgitated ad nauseam. Anyone who pretends that Apple cares about anything other than profit is lying to others and themselves. >I agree there should be personal ac
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11mo ago
The fact that even a whiff of potential competition incentivized Apple to half their tax for specific cases shows that anti-trust regulation works and that it's the only thing that will ever force a gatekeeper to reconsider their ant
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11mo ago
And that is exactly the problem that is being solved. It's not about "consumers screaming", but companies, consumers and governments realizing that anti-competitive behavior is harming everybody except the gatekeeper. The sol
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11mo ago
That's what the market will determine once Apple is forced to compete.
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11mo ago
Apple isn't "paranoid about their battery life claims", they are paranoid about losing their taxation funnel. Everything else is contrived apologia in defense of their app distribution monopoly.
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11mo ago
they do it on macs, they can do it on iphones. the only reason why they refuse to do so is profit maximization.
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11mo ago
why would installing apps void their warranties? installing apps on your mac doesn't void your mac's warranty either...
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