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jonathannat
5y ago
The discussion is a bit all over the place. The main points are that EU failed vaccination, and US failed covid testing (Statista disagrees https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104645/covid19-testing-... ) , as we
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jonathannat
5y ago
Actually no, this marks the beginning the decline of power for Alibaba and the rest of the Chinese megatech companies like tencent and baidu. The chinese government goal for the next 5-10 years is stability, control and state companies, not
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jonathannat
5y ago
first link is "The World in 2050 report was published in February 2017" second link is only regarding goods. goods + services, US is EU top trade partner third link: there are now Japan/Australian/US/UK/France&
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jonathannat
5y ago
This seems like a very US-centric response. As I wrote > China sanctioned US/Canadian/UK/EU individuals and entities > erased H&M (swedish company) in all major Chinese platforms
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jonathannat
5y ago
> Europe's num 1 trading partner if you only count goods. if you count goods + services, US is still the biggest trading partner
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jonathannat
5y ago
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/yes-china-lying-about... Yes China Is Lying About the Size of Their Economy https://fortune.com/2021/03/11/stimulus-package-covid-relief... Th
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5y ago
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3015206/c... China’s economic census uncovers more fake data as officials promise ‘zero tolerance’ to data manipulation https://www.heritage.
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jonathannat
5y ago
> Hasn’t China’s economy been growing steadily for decades? Fake GDP #s, especially since 2010. CCP does NOT have a growth goal in the recent five year plan, meaning they can't fake increasing defaults and can't increase const
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jonathannat
5y ago
With regards to Xinjiang sanctions, China has also - sanctioned US/Canadian/UK/EU individuals and entities - erased H&M in all major Chinese platforms https://wwd.com/business-news/retail/hm-face
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jonathannat
5y ago
Not if most of us keep claiming laziness and buy stuff that clearly say "made in China", when there are alternatives readily available either online or next to it in the aisle.
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jonathannat
5y ago
Difference: US riot - citizens who enjoy democratic freedom protested against republic/democratic government. protest got violent, government handled it. Hong Kong riot - citizens who enjoy(ed) democratic freedom protested against en
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5y ago
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/18/hong-kong-huge... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48656471 At many different times in 2019, 1.7M-2M Hong Kong citizens, or 25
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jonathannat
5y ago
I find it odd that I've had to click through a few times on both hacker news and reddit to get the info for the person in question. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Challenor > Aimee Challenor, who current
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6y ago
Incomplete list of companies moving out of China. Adidas & Lacoste: https://www.glossy.co/fashion/lacoste-and-adidas-pledge-to-c... Nike: https://www.gq.com/story/nike-adidas-shifting-productio
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jonathannat
6y ago
US has started to, with sanctions on xinjiang related companies, with sanctions on chinese officials over hong kong. It's just a matter of time before more sanctions arrive. Because dictatorships are short-sighted and incapable of cha
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jonathannat
6y ago
> The western world can't. I'm not sure if you've been paying attention, but supply chains have been moving to Vietnam/Malaysia/Indonesia/India/Mexico for the last few years, and the trend is only incre
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jonathannat
6y ago
For those who wants to stop supporting China, don't lose hope. Supply chains are migrating, due to tariffs, sanctions, and hatred towards CCP. Don't let naysayers who may have a vested interest in China talk you down. Just keep
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6y ago
So china's aggression in the past few years isn't out of position of strength, it's from a position of extreme weakness. And with Biden continuing Trump's china strategy in economic sanctions/stopping tech transfer
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6y ago
Interesting, so none of this bothers you DJI had been supplying drone technology to Chinese security forces in Xinjiang https://www.pcmag.com/news/us-blacklists-drone-maker-dji-ove... Uighur camp detainees allege syste
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6y ago
china overproduces things and trade dumps on other countries because of local government quota and made-up numbers for GDP. that's not a country we want to produce goods for the long term. buying from democratic countries would be
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jonathannat
6y ago
not all countries run mostly on coal. before you say "but then we won't have enough production" good, maybe we should create less things based on coal. we have item shortages now, and the world hasn't ended.
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jonathannat
6y ago
Plenty of black swans occur when dictatorship is the regime. - assassination of dictator => internal turmoil - early death of dictator => internal turmoil - scuffle with neighboring country => economic sanctions by the free world -
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6y ago
Nope, these people (farmers for life, migrant workers with no education, people living in abject poverty, etc) are stuck. If there were actual growth in the economy, China would not outlaw hong kong citizens from leaving to go to England, c
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6y ago
If I had to guess, American investments took over as #1 in FDI in 1992. Japan was still 4th in 1991. You can thank wall street, republican congress, and bill clinton for that. https://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/15&#
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6y ago
Exactly. 700M Chinese citizens who live on $140/month income. 500M 65 year olds by 2050 (money flows up in Chinese society. One grandkid pays 2 parents who pays 4 grandparents, since it's a one child society) Oh and no social saf
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jonathannat
6y ago
These analysts who tout China live in 2008 China. And they ignore Xi Jing Ping + demographics + middle income trap + total debt as if they doesn't exist.
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6y ago
Wow, way to twist the history to your own narrative. Also, no, Tesla has not eaten the entire auto industry, stock market cap doesn't equal to product market share > Video conferencing Zoom (American company) launched in 2011. Din
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6y ago
over the years, demographics change, macro economics change, geopolitics change, etc etc etc
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6y ago
there's also alot more chinese students studying abroad, compared to the old days. The creme of the crop stays, and the rest goes back.
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jonathannat
6y ago
a quick glimpse of the link you sent, alot of the economic data depends on you trusting the data coming from a dictatorship which obfuscates every clear economic signals. So I don't buy it personally. As for politics, China aligned i
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