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Xbox One Will Be Able To Upload Game Recordings To YouTube

74 points by rrpadhy 12y ago

jjcm 12y ago
I wonder if this will clash with content-id systems. It'd be interesting to see a DMCA takedown from a game studio against a video uploaded through xbox's featureset.
- devindotcom 12y ago
  I talked with one of the people in the content ID section a little while back and I don't think it'll be a problem based on the mechanisms for takedowns. You might get a big mega-takedown request once in a while but that will probably be denied in this case.
- elithrar 12y ago
  Developers/publishers will likely opt-in to allow upload, similar to how Twitch streaming is opt-in.
Yhippa 12y ago
Come on Google! Return the favor and make a native YouTube app for Windows Phone so users can watch said videos.
- barista 12y ago
  Seriously. Google's stance on this has been childish at best. Time to grow up.
- Rexxar 12y ago
  @barista: You've been hellbanned for 95 days. I look at your comments history and I cannot guess why.
  - tomerico 12y ago
    You made me curios enough to browse barista's comments history and they are very biased pro-Google anti-Microsoft, to an extent almost all of the comments focus on that. The account does seem fishy.
    - nr0mx 12y ago
      You mean anti-Google pro-Microsoft surely?
JamesBaxter 12y ago
I wonder if Google wanted this or Microsoft pushed for it. I think Google Hangouts with the Xbox One and Kinnect would be a great combination. Will Microsoft allow it when it would make Skype look bad or do they just want users on their platform? Youtube uploads suggests to me they want functionality from any source to get an edge on the competition.
- uncleruckus 12y ago
  Youtube uploads suggests to me they want functionality from any source to get an edge on the competition. Definitely this. PS4 users constantly complain how, in order to get a video on YouTube, you must upload to Facebook, download the video, then upload to YouTube. Granted, we're getting USB output soon enough, but direct upload to YouTube would be ideal.
  - PhasmaFelis 12y ago
    That's so baffling. A while back I used...I think it was Timbuk2's backpack/messenger bag customization interface, which is fantastic for actually designing/ordering a product and has a "share" button, but it inexplicably only lets you share to Facebook. (And maybe Twitter and G+, I forget.) They actually generate a URL, don't let you see it, but will put it on Facebook for you. I cannot comprehend what sort of thought leads to an implementation like that.
sarreph 12y ago
This did make me chuckle: "...when’s the last time you heard someone talking about their favorite viral OneDrive video? Never? Yeah. Probably never."
- nivla 12y ago
  Well to be fair OneDrive is not actually competing with Youtube, it is competing with Google Drive and Dropbox. Off topic but who do you actually consider a real competitor to Youtube? The only other major service I can think of is Vimeo. I have been getting frustrated with Youtube's random takedowns, ads and disabling of fullscreen in most websites. I think there is a potential for some new startups here.
  - kbaker 12y ago
    Twitch.tv is probably the biggest competitor in the gaming area... maybe even bigger than Youtube for game uploads. edit: looks like twitch is supported, definitely as well as youtube, and includes live broadcasting of gameplay... http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/apps/Xbox-One/Twitch http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/apps/Xbox-One/Twitch
- maaaats 12y ago
  Pretty weird point. After all, one could upload the video to YouTube from OneDrive on a different device.
MarkPNeyer 12y ago
when i played 'dance central' for xbob 360, my friends and i loved the little session where they take a few pictures of you dancing. i have no idea why they didn't let you post those to facebook. comic gold!
mentos 12y ago
I really think Xbox could win the battle for the living room. I'm more excited for it as a media center than as a game console. The fact that they let you pass through your cable box to an HDMI-IN shows me that they have been paying attention. I believe this was something that the Logitech Revue pioneered but unfortunately didn't take off due to being too slow a unit. I've been waiting to see who might support this and so far it only looks like Microsoft has. You may not appreciate it, but being able to flip between games/sites/cable instantly goes a long way in making your living room experience seamless, and I really think that will be the difference in this short term (while people still own cable boxes) if Sony/Apple/Google don't follow suit.
- parasubvert 12y ago
  They really could. They seem to have gone to market quicker than they were ready for this though, hopping the first mover advantage would allow people to see the potential. It's definitely there, with the snap feature for example to multitask apps (like watching a TV show with Skype on the side, sharing living rooms), the voice commands and gestures, etc. I wish they supported more cable provider guides through their Live TV, but I guess it's early. Apple bought the company that made the technology behind the Kinect, so I presume they believe Microsoft has the right idea.
  - mitchty 12y ago
    I thought Apple bought the v1 kinect company and the xbone's kinect is all ms internal? That said the new kinect voice is SOOOOO close to being good, the stupid thing fails more often than siri though so I tend to forget to use it ever except the first day I got my xbox. I still hate that I need to pay for gold just to watch netflix (this is the reason I have my Apple TV tbh, I maybe use gold over the winter but other than that I got better things to do). The multitasking is quite brilliant though, it transitions between games so flawlessly its almost uncanny to me.
    - parasubvert 12y ago
      Yeah, MS bought a couple of other companies after Kinect v1 which allowed them to do more with the Xbone. The big downside for Xbox is as you say, the $59 Xbox Live Gold subscription. This rake is not likely something the new competing experiences like Amazon FireTV or AppleTV 4th gen will have, so they'll have to a have a LOT of perks to justify it. So far OneGuide, Skype and free Fitness demos seem a bit light (with Skype being the best justification of the lot).
dalek2point3 12y ago
so, Microsoft is not going to compete in the market for online video and concede that battle to Google? Im surprised, given how much grief GOOG has given MSFT over developing a YT app for WindowsPhone.
jgh 12y ago
Doesn't the PS4 already do that? I mean they demo'd a continuous recording feature at the original announcement last year. Uploading those recordings to YouTube/Facebook/etc seems like a natural next step for that.
- specto 12y ago
  Facebook for recorded video, it would be wise of them to allow youtube as well.
- MisterBastahrd 12y ago
  They use UStream and Twitch for live video streaming. I know on Twitch, you can save videos also, but I don't know if you can do that from the PS4. Either way, it's going to make for a more captive audience than Youtube.
quackerhacker 12y ago
Great, more long ass unedited amateur videos. I used to upload gaming videos (moments/montages) to youtube. The share feature is nice on PS4 and Xbox one, although the reason for my comment is I quit uploading, because I always received copyright notices from YouTube, and even if I won an appeal...it still lead to copyright notices AGAIN later. Aside from the notices, my friends and I were monitoring through Adsense, after the notices would happen, I'd noticed that earned adsense revenue would be subtracted from FINALIZED earnings. I wrote a blog about this out of anger [1]. Anyways, the reason I stopped uploading was, because to actually get views and subscribers, editors need to....edit....their videos. Although when I uploaded, it taught me how to edit and compress videos, I realized I was editing and reviewing footage a lot more than playing. [1] https://medium.com/p/6caf19d2c542 https://medium.com/p/6caf19d2c542
- nickonline 12y ago
  With Starcraft 2 there's a feature to "watch a reply with a friend". Perhaps this is an easy way for them to get the same functionality without having to build in a replay viewer There's also a whole audience of people on twitch who watch live streams of games with merely the player commenting into their headset as they go regarding why they're doing something (sometimes not even that!). So there's two instances without editing already in wide use today.
dfc 12y ago
You could do this with Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 on the 360 years ago. You can also do it with BF4 on the xbone. (since launch)

74 points by rrpadhy 12y ago

jjcm 12y ago

I wonder if this will clash with content-id systems. It'd be interesting to see a DMCA takedown from a game studio against a video uploaded through xbox's featureset.

devindotcom 12y ago
I talked with one of the people in the content ID section a little while back and I don't think it'll be a problem based on the mechanisms for takedowns. You might get a big mega-takedown request once in a while but that will probably be denied in this case.
elithrar 12y ago
Developers/publishers will likely opt-in to allow upload, similar to how Twitch streaming is opt-in.

Yhippa 12y ago

Come on Google! Return the favor and make a native YouTube app for Windows Phone so users can watch said videos.

barista 12y ago
Seriously. Google's stance on this has been childish at best. Time to grow up.
Rexxar 12y ago
@barista: You've been hellbanned for 95 days. I look at your comments history and I cannot guess why.
- tomerico 12y ago
  You made me curios enough to browse barista's comments history and they are very biased pro-Google anti-Microsoft, to an extent almost all of the comments focus on that. The account does seem fishy.
  - nr0mx 12y ago
    You mean anti-Google pro-Microsoft surely?

JamesBaxter 12y ago

I wonder if Google wanted this or Microsoft pushed for it. I think Google Hangouts with the Xbox One and Kinnect would be a great combination. Will Microsoft allow it when it would make Skype look bad or do they just want users on their platform? Youtube uploads suggests to me they want functionality from any source to get an edge on the competition.

uncleruckus 12y ago
Youtube uploads suggests to me they want functionality from any source to get an edge on the competition. Definitely this. PS4 users constantly complain how, in order to get a video on YouTube, you must upload to Facebook, download the video, then upload to YouTube. Granted, we're getting USB output soon enough, but direct upload to YouTube would be ideal.
- PhasmaFelis 12y ago
  That's so baffling. A while back I used...I think it was Timbuk2's backpack/messenger bag customization interface, which is fantastic for actually designing/ordering a product and has a "share" button, but it inexplicably only lets you share to Facebook. (And maybe Twitter and G+, I forget.) They actually generate a URL, don't let you see it, but will put it on Facebook for you. I cannot comprehend what sort of thought leads to an implementation like that.

sarreph 12y ago

This did make me chuckle: "...when’s the last time you heard someone talking about their favorite viral OneDrive video? Never? Yeah. Probably never."

nivla 12y ago
Well to be fair OneDrive is not actually competing with Youtube, it is competing with Google Drive and Dropbox. Off topic but who do you actually consider a real competitor to Youtube? The only other major service I can think of is Vimeo. I have been getting frustrated with Youtube's random takedowns, ads and disabling of fullscreen in most websites. I think there is a potential for some new startups here.
- kbaker 12y ago
  Twitch.tv is probably the biggest competitor in the gaming area... maybe even bigger than Youtube for game uploads. edit: looks like twitch is supported, definitely as well as youtube, and includes live broadcasting of gameplay... http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/apps/Xbox-One/Twitch http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/apps/Xbox-One/Twitch
maaaats 12y ago
Pretty weird point. After all, one could upload the video to YouTube from OneDrive on a different device.

MarkPNeyer 12y ago

when i played 'dance central' for xbob 360, my friends and i loved the little session where they take a few pictures of you dancing. i have no idea why they didn't let you post those to facebook. comic gold!

mentos 12y ago

I really think Xbox could win the battle for the living room. I'm more excited for it as a media center than as a game console. The fact that they let you pass through your cable box to an HDMI-IN shows me that they have been paying attention. I believe this was something that the Logitech Revue pioneered but unfortunately didn't take off due to being too slow a unit. I've been waiting to see who might support this and so far it only looks like Microsoft has. You may not appreciate it, but being able to flip between games/sites/cable instantly goes a long way in making your living room experience seamless, and I really think that will be the difference in this short term (while people still own cable boxes) if Sony/Apple/Google don't follow suit.

parasubvert 12y ago
They really could. They seem to have gone to market quicker than they were ready for this though, hopping the first mover advantage would allow people to see the potential. It's definitely there, with the snap feature for example to multitask apps (like watching a TV show with Skype on the side, sharing living rooms), the voice commands and gestures, etc. I wish they supported more cable provider guides through their Live TV, but I guess it's early. Apple bought the company that made the technology behind the Kinect, so I presume they believe Microsoft has the right idea.
- mitchty 12y ago
  I thought Apple bought the v1 kinect company and the xbone's kinect is all ms internal? That said the new kinect voice is SOOOOO close to being good, the stupid thing fails more often than siri though so I tend to forget to use it ever except the first day I got my xbox. I still hate that I need to pay for gold just to watch netflix (this is the reason I have my Apple TV tbh, I maybe use gold over the winter but other than that I got better things to do). The multitasking is quite brilliant though, it transitions between games so flawlessly its almost uncanny to me.
  - parasubvert 12y ago
    Yeah, MS bought a couple of other companies after Kinect v1 which allowed them to do more with the Xbone. The big downside for Xbox is as you say, the $59 Xbox Live Gold subscription. This rake is not likely something the new competing experiences like Amazon FireTV or AppleTV 4th gen will have, so they'll have to a have a LOT of perks to justify it. So far OneGuide, Skype and free Fitness demos seem a bit light (with Skype being the best justification of the lot).

dalek2point3 12y ago

so, Microsoft is not going to compete in the market for online video and concede that battle to Google? Im surprised, given how much grief GOOG has given MSFT over developing a YT app for WindowsPhone.

jgh 12y ago

Doesn't the PS4 already do that? I mean they demo'd a continuous recording feature at the original announcement last year. Uploading those recordings to YouTube/Facebook/etc seems like a natural next step for that.

specto 12y ago
Facebook for recorded video, it would be wise of them to allow youtube as well.
MisterBastahrd 12y ago
They use UStream and Twitch for live video streaming. I know on Twitch, you can save videos also, but I don't know if you can do that from the PS4. Either way, it's going to make for a more captive audience than Youtube.

quackerhacker 12y ago

Great, more long ass unedited amateur videos. I used to upload gaming videos (moments/montages) to youtube. The share feature is nice on PS4 and Xbox one, although the reason for my comment is I quit uploading, because I always received copyright notices from YouTube, and even if I won an appeal...it still lead to copyright notices AGAIN later. Aside from the notices, my friends and I were monitoring through Adsense, after the notices would happen, I'd noticed that earned adsense revenue would be subtracted from FINALIZED earnings. I wrote a blog about this out of anger [1]. Anyways, the reason I stopped uploading was, because to actually get views and subscribers, editors need to....edit....their videos. Although when I uploaded, it taught me how to edit and compress videos, I realized I was editing and reviewing footage a lot more than playing. [1] https://medium.com/p/6caf19d2c542 https://medium.com/p/6caf19d2c542

nickonline 12y ago
With Starcraft 2 there's a feature to "watch a reply with a friend". Perhaps this is an easy way for them to get the same functionality without having to build in a replay viewer There's also a whole audience of people on twitch who watch live streams of games with merely the player commenting into their headset as they go regarding why they're doing something (sometimes not even that!). So there's two instances without editing already in wide use today.

dfc 12y ago

You could do this with Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 on the 360 years ago. You can also do it with BF4 on the xbone. (since launch)