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I swear, Qwen 3.8 27B @ Q8 is smarter than Sonnet 5 most of the time. Why wouldn’t corporate America self host at this point, especially with better options lik
by syntaxing 14d ago
I swear, Qwen 3.8 27B @ Q8 is smarter than Sonnet 5 most of the time. Why wouldn’t corporate America self host at this point, especially with better options like Deepseek Flash and GLM 5.3 flash that’s a middle ground between Sonnet and Opus
- SamInTheShell 14d ago@q4 is definitely smarter than sonnet from what I’ve seen so far. It’s even caught problems in code made by fable, when using it as a code reviewer.
- r_lee 14d agois this actually the case? I haven't kept up with the small models but if there's roughly Sonnet 4.6 level capable open small models, then I'd be impressed
- Zambyte 14d agoQwen 3.8 27b has the juice. Try it.
- jhonof 14d agoQwen 3.8 27B is better than Sonnet 4.6
- syntaxing 13d agoQwen 3.8 27B is the real deal BUT remember to use froggeric template and/or medium reasoning. https://huggingface.co/froggeric/Qwen-Fixed-Chat-Templates https://huggingface.co/froggeric/Qwen-Fixed-Chat-Templates
- majorchord 14d agoAgreed. And conversely, American models can also just as easily be secretly influenced for bad things, or be more tightly controlled by the government, to corporate America's own detriment.
- Kuyawa 14d agoAmerica's own demise will be made in America, stamped by American laws
- majorchord 14d agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA&t=289s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA&t=289s
- cousinbryce 13d agoFrom whence shall we expect the approach of danger? Shall some trans-Atlantic military giant step the earth and crush us at a blow? Never. All the armies of Europe and Asia...could not by force take a drink from the Ohio River or make a track on the Blue Ridge in the trial of a thousand years. No, if destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men we will live forever or die by suicide. ― Abraham Lincoln
- epistasis 14d agoPost-IPO I'd trust the American models far far less than the Chinese models. The most insidious advertising in the world is about to be surfaced as people use LLMs to look for product recommendations.
- WarmWash 14d agoIt's wild that people are so lost in the sauce of social media that they have no qualms handing over all their data to an authoritarian ethno state with a single ruler who appointed themselves for life with unrestricted unilateral control over every aspect of the state. And here we are calling for collapse because mom might get recommended Gain instead of Tide.
- majorchord 14d agoWhat's even more wild to me is that basically ALL modern electronics and all modern batteries are made from raw materials sourced by forced and child labor (and sometimes both)... yet the vast majority of the entire world just turns a blind eye to it. https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/gKMYRcEIeE9j.png https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/gKMYRcEIeE9j.png
- Henchman21 14d ago> Why wouldn’t corporate America self host at this point Because they've been trained to think "cloud-first" for a decade?
- phoghed 14d agoStill a ton of non tech companies doing a digital / tech transformation out there too lol. Maybe some so far behind they still have the real estate and rack space to get ahead on this one
- skybrian 13d agoWhy not Luna?
- spopejoy 12d agoI mean, why self-host? Deepseek v4 flash is dirt-cheap on openrouter. Inference is a race to the bottom at this point.