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Apple Studio with maxed out M5 Ultra, 256GB RAM and 16TB storage is 18,299$. The 512GB RAM version apparently is coming in October, considering that the differe
by mrtksn 23d ago
Apple Studio with maxed out M5 Ultra, 256GB RAM and 16TB storage is 18,299$. The 512GB RAM version apparently is coming in October, considering that the difference between 96GB and 256GB is priced at 4000$, the 512GB upgrade must be eye watering.
So, on the mini the RAM upgrade runs at 25$ per GB on all tiers, the same as the Studio therefore the upgrade to 512 will probably cost 6400$.
The fully maxed out Apple Studio then will be 24699$. It's 17199$ if you don't upgrade the storage(1TB).
Nevertheless I itch to have one :)
- intrasight 23d agoSo is downpayment on a house. I would buy the house and just pay for tokens as needed. The house will get more valuable and that wealth would buy a lot of tokens in the future - which will probably get cheaper. EDIT: or buy AAPL. If I had bought Apple stock instead of buying a Mac LC II in 1992, then I would have about $2 million in Apple stock.
- physicalecon 23d ago[dead]
- garciasn 23d agoWith the way RAM prices are going up, you could expect to make 20% profit on any purchase.
- intrasight 23d agoI tripled my money on my RAM purchase of three years ago. So, yes, for short-term appreciation that's hard to beat. But I don't think it's something that will continue.
- d_runs_far 23d agoHad I done that as well, then maybe I wouldn't have gotten intrigued by HyperCard, then Director/Authorware, then Flash, then HTML, then...
- paxys 23d agoOr more simply – $25K (+ tax) put in a savings account will earn about enough interest to pay for a $100/month AI subscription indefinitely. And at the end of it you still have the $25K.
- bilbo0s 23d agoThis is the real answer. Unless you need privacy for your inference this instant, paying for credits can get 80 to 90 percent of people everything they need. Of course if you do need that privacy, then forking the $25K over to Apple is a no brainer.
- intrasight 23d agoI don't need privacy, so it would be financially imprudent for me to spend 20 grand on such a machine. But I have a financial management client who does need such privacy, and if I get more fully engaged with them then I would be able to justify getting a loaded Mac.
- throwa356262 23d agoWhy is this a no brainer? There are both cheaper and faster options out there.
- AbsurdCensor 23d agoNot 'more simply', there are basically zero savings accounts that are going to net you a 5%+ interest rate to give you that $100 a month. And that $25k becomes less valuable over time. $25k is now only worth $19k because inflation.
- spacephysics 22d agoMoney market/treasuries (even ETF like SGOV) gets pretty close to 5% when typical savings rate is a bit under If treasuries “fail” we have a different class of problem.
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- ziofill 23d agowhere are downpayments so cheap? I'll move there ^^'
- intrasight 23d agoThere are 70 houses for sale in Pittsburgh for $25K or less
- derwiki 23d agoCoshocton, Ohio, plenty of houses for <100k
- brookst 23d agoOn second thought...
- kridsdale1 22d agoYeah my down payment 10 years ago was $200,000. The house has appreciated 0%. I sold meta shares to buy it. Those would be worth a million now. … I wish I hadn’t just calculated that.
- selectodude 22d agoHaving a place to live is an investment in your health and wellbeing. Can't live in a stock option.
- christoff12 22d agoAt the time, were you aware that you could borrow against your portfolio?
- lotsofpulp 22d agoAnd when they get margin called in March 2020? Maybe they had the cash on hand, maybe they didn’t. Assuming they are in the family formation stage of life with young kids, an outlier risk appetite would be required to sleep well at night.
- chrsw 22d agoWhere I’m from $25k is the down payment on a parking space in a garage, not an entire house (or condo).
- saturn8601 22d ago>The house will get more valuable Depends on where you live. Also keep in mind population decline so long term, im not so sure. Prices already dropping in less desirable places (everywhere outside of most blue areas) (Assuming you are talking about the US sorry if not)
- moomoo11 22d agowhy not buy the maxed out mac and then buy a metaverse house that you can live in virtually problem solved /s
- JKCalhoun 23d agoM6 Mac mini maxes out at 32GB—if you want 64GB you have to go with the M5 Pro (just priced it out on Apple's store page).
- TimByte 23d agoApple hasn't been selling just ram for a long time, they sell vram. Try getting 512 gb of HBM on current Nvidia cards - it's gonna cost way more than $ 24k. And here you get the same amount of memory for weights right in a quiet unit under your desk Put together a similar build with a couple of rtx 6000 Ada cards and Apple's price tag suddenly looks pretty damn reasonable
- dagmx 22d agoHBM itself is very expensive but it’s not really fair to compare to LPDDR or GDDR They’re very different things. The more logical argument to me is that Apple uses its upgrade price points as more than just direct BOM and rather as a proxy for things that are amortized across all their sales like support/warranty/etc so higher SKUs subsidize the costs of the lower ones.
- tedd4u 22d agoThe RAM in the M5 is LPDDR5X, not HBM. You're right of course that it's unified and used as VRAM in that sense.
- frogperson 23d agoi remember when SGI boxes were $50k and then literally worthless just a couple bears later. i remember my university had a pile of them for free outside the deans office.
- fluidcruft 23d agoI figure most electronics are worthless after a couple of bears.
- smcleod 23d agoI wish you could drop $20k and get a house! Down payment here store like $100k+ (AUD). So "only" 5~ Max Studios.
- sanderjd 23d agoHa yeah that was my thought. How is this a down payment? This would only be 20% of a $100k house...
- Marsymars 22d agoWell a substantial proportion of home buyers in Canada put down only the minimum 5% down payment.
- alistairSH 22d ago"Nobody" puts down 20%. That hasn't been a requirement for decades (in the US). And there are plenty of places in the US where you can buy a house for $150-$200k. Maybe not places you want to live for one reason or another, but they're there.
- Tempest1981 22d agoop forgot to add "/hyperbole"
- mr_toad 23d agoTen years ago a bought an expensive MBP because I do a lot of stats in R, Python etc that benefited from it. But the next Mac I’ll buy will be a much lower-end model, because it’s just easier these days to do that work in notebooks in the cloud.
- meerita 22d agoI don't think 16TB storage is a right choice. Going 2TB and it's 11,299. Probably, if you buy the storage and install it yourself you can go higher and quite cheaper.
- ff10 22d agoI think the reason they offer these options in the first place is the discontinuation of the MacPro and their remaining need to offer high end solutions.
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- tedd4u 22d agoRegarding the $25 price per GB RAM. These chips use LPDDR5X RAM. Looking at the Framework site, they are selling LPDDR5X LPCAMM2 modules for the following prices: 16GB $239 - $15/GB 32GB $800 - $25/GB 64GB $1,600 - $25/GB
- _the_inflator 22d agoThe trick are tax deductions. I wouldn’t recommend buying any bare metal unless money is a second thought or you can fully deduct the price. Most often in the end you pay half the price then. Depending on the write offs you could even make some bucks out of it. Or buy and lease. Under certain circumstances the hardware costs you nothing. But you need money to save money. And a company.
- sixothree 22d agoDoes anyone know if you can link multiples of these together for a single large model?
- cortesoft 22d ago$7000 of that is for the 16tb of storage. That is certainly not worth it if you are trying to save money.
- BirAdam 22d agoI recently had to buy RAM for some on-prem servers at work. 256GB was around $3800, and it wasn't even particularly fast RAM... it also wasn't ECC, because that would have spiked the price still higher.