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Teacher Arrested for Clapping in Support of Anti-Data Center Activists
- vouaobrasil 2mo ago[flagged]
- fithisux 2mo agoTrue
- s1artibartfast 2mo agoCounterpoint, AI is amazing and I can't wait for it to replace human jobs. I joke that chat GPT is my child's primary pediatrician. It's not perfect but humans aren't either and it makes fewer mistakes than the Clinic and available in seconds 24 hours a day.
- ura_yukimitsu 2mo agoOffloading your own healthcare to a LLM is a thing, forcing that decision onto a child is another altogether. I really hope your child never has serious health issues...
- joshstrange 2mo agoTell me you’ve not seriously had to interact with the US healthcare system without telling me… LLMs make mistakes, so do humans. Especially humans who dedicate <15min to a patient and often are reading the charts/info in front of the patient for the first time (during that short window).
- estearum 2mo agoI've interacting seriously with the US healthcare system. It's frankly insane to say an LLM is your child's primary pediatrician.
- s1artibartfast 2mo agoThis morning the clinic collected my 6 year olds weight wrong twice because the nurse didnt know the difference between 6.13 lbs and 6lbs 13 Oz. That's the difference between a baby that is 20% underweight and dying versus its birth weight. I made them show me how they did it twice before leaving. After I left I got a call from the doctor apologizing that all of their neonates weights were wrong that morning because their staff don't know the difference between decimals and ounces Humans are incredibly error prone. Modern llms are far better than that. When my wife was pregnant, the OB was asking an LLM for medication contraindcations while we were in the office. She showed us the model she used.
- ButlerianJihad 2mo agoIt's so easy for humans to remember: there are 16 ounces in a pound, and there are 24 hours in a year.
- bluefirebrand 2mo ago> Counterpoint, AI is amazing and I can't wait for it to replace human jobs You're looking forward to the value of human life under capitalism going to zero? What do you think happens next, does capitalism go away or do humans?
- s1artibartfast 2mo agoNo clue! I hope we work it out but I'm not willing to tolerate more medical errors for my child to propagate the status quo.
- bluefirebrand 2mo agoIf it were me I would be more concerned about what kind of future we're actually building for my child, but fair enough. Immediate survival takes priority. That said, I think an awful lot of children today are going to grow up under the shadow of AI and they will not be grateful for it.
- s1artibartfast 2mo agoYeah, like I said, I hope we work it out! The technology isnt going away. Maybe we can slow and contol it with global coordination if China and US can cooperate. The future will be different. Hopefully the good ways will outweigh the bad. Im fairly excited about AI integrated child education. I think it opens a lot of opportunities for kids to move and explore at their own pace- Hopefully with a caring human involved in some areas. Maybe we can get the good ending!
- bluefirebrand 2mo agoWish I had your optimism. I see that phones and tablets are absolutely cooking the brains of my nieces and nephews, I don't have any hope that adding AI to the mix will help that any
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- illliillll 2mo agoWhy are AI critics so lazy? Why does this have to be treated as a matter of faith rather than something to be logically reasoned about?
- rep_lodsb 2mo agoWhy should AI enthusiasts expect logical reasoning? AI "reasoning" is the model babbling to itself, using statistically likely sequences of words that appear in the training data. Of course that will often produce valid chains of logic, but not because it in any way understands the principle behind it. It is ONLY modelling LANGUAGE, not any of the mental processes that guide the use of language in humans (and which might even exist in animals not capable of language). When asked to carefully check itself, it might spot errors because their structure matches common examples of fallacies, or it might not, and instead insert some further bullshit like "Assumption Verified — 100% correct! It all checks out [insert some emojis here]". That then becomes part of its context, and further boosts its unfounded confidence.
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- wormpilled 2mo agoPot kettle. His post is more interesting than yours.
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- dang 2mo agoCould you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
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- ktallett 2mo agoWhatever your view on AI and data usage, this is not an acceptable reason to arrest someone. I do view that we are taking just brute force too far, we need to pause and reconsider energy usage and waste and refocus on the algorithms to be more efficient first. Our focus should not just be the Jeremy Clarkson method of more power.
- Sabinus 2mo agoFrom the perspective of the data centre guys, efficiency gains make (over)spend on data centres even more worthwhile. The more efficiency gains there are the more work the datacentres can do, and the more money they make.
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- angry_octet 2mo agoThe erosion of civil rights in the US right now is shocking. The notion that city councillors should be able to order the detention of a citizen is just bonkers. I hope every one of these councilors is voted out and police need serious personal financial consequences and sanctions. Fundamentally the US has too many police forces, each of which is a law unto itself.
- ButlerianJihad 2mo agoThe erosion of civil rights in the US right now is shocking. The notion that any citizen should be able to disrupt and hinder business meetings of city councillors is just bonkers. I hope every one of these citizens is thrown in jail and activist citizens need serious personal financial consequences and sanctions. Fundamentally the US has too many special interest groups, each of which is a law unto itself.
- angry_octet 2mo agoIs a public council meeting a private business meeting? Or in fact a forum for citizens to give input? Is a lone individual, or even a whole room, clapping a speech, disrupting? What law has the individual broken by clapping or speaking? Councillors do not make law by speaking. They should get a court order if someone is being persistently disruptive, not use bully boy police intimidation. Special interest groups do indeed have private police forces in the US, that routinely misuse the wide powers available. Really you need to mount a better argument.
- JuniperMesos 2mo ago> Is a lone individual, or even a whole room, clapping a speech, disrupting? Yeah, if the presider of the meeting asks people not to do that in order to get through more comments. > What law has the individual broken by clapping or speaking? Councillors do not make law by speaking. They should get a court order if someone is being persistently disruptive, not use bully boy police intimidation. > Special interest groups do indeed have private police forces in the US, that routinely misuse the wide powers available. The people who dragged him out looked like the normal town police enforcing order at a public meeting in a normal way. This is the most basic function of police - or equivalently, anyone who does this job is doing policing, regardless of whether they're a uniformed official or just the physically biggest three guys in town.
- duxup 2mo ago> “Chief, will you take the next person out that claps or anything?” an unidentified commissioner, likely Duncan, then asked Emporia police chief Ed Owens. Uh oh someone heard something they didn’t like and someone clapped…