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Half-Life 2 running natively on HaikuOS
- bullen 2mo agoI think HL2 on portable 5W ARM linux is more interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl1nrDvmiII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl1nrDvmiII
- andai 2mo agoI wanted to say, 5 watts, doesn't HL2 already run on Raspberry Pi? But then I realized, this thing seems to be powered by some kind of rpi? https://www.clockworkpi.com/product-page/uconsole-kit-rpi-cm4-lite https://www.clockworkpi.com/product-page/uconsole-kit-rpi-cm... That's pretty cool though, do you have a video of it running on the device itself?
- bullen 2mo agoThis is captured+streamed on the device with ffmpeg, but mobile phone video no. Got a short of my own engine though: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LKYX7E3A0Dk https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LKYX7E3A0Dk
- andai 2mo agoDamn this is so cool. In the future, a computer may even fit in your coat pocket!
- Rohansi 2mo agoI know it's not as cool but the Steam Deck can run HL2 at just as low power consumption with its AMD APU.
- bullen 2mo ago"A normal Steam Deck consumes about 4 to 7 watts of total system power when idling on the home screen with low screen brightness." Maybe HL2 brings zero overhead to idle then? Anyway X86 is the past, risc-v is so completely lost into eternal future... only ARM really works right now.
- Rohansi 2mo agoYou can do less on the OLED with a few tweaks in the quick menu. Specifically the OLED because it has a more efficient APU. Limit APU to 3W, disable radio, maybe more. > Anyway X86 is the past, risc-v is so completely lost into eternal future... only ARM really works right now. I don't disagree but all of the recent Raspberry Pis have worse performance, cost more than x86, and barely use less power. There are so much better examples to showcase ARM.
- ErroneousBosh 2mo ago> Maybe HL2 brings zero overhead to idle then? It went like particularly dry shit off a teflon shovel on my Duron 700 when it was new so I can't imagine it would tax a nice modern chip much.
- potwinkle 2mo agoYou can run HL2 at 1080p 60fps in 5W on Armada on the AYN Thor (on the Eco performance profile). That includes a screen and speakers.
- LorenDB 2mo agoLooks like this may have been based on the nillerusr Source engine, which is based on a 2020 leak of the Source sources. nillerusr's engine has also been used to port some Valve games to Android.
- MisterTea 2mo agoI wish Valve would take a cue from id and release the source code to Source and/or at least GoldSrc under an open license. Though I have a hard time imagining them opening up code to more lucrative games like Team Fortress Classic or Counter-Strike classic. Nice dream though...
- lunar_rover 2mo agoSource uses licenced middleware such as Havok so SDKs are likely all we're going to get officially. Source 2 might be a different story if HL3 releases one day since Valve replaced audio and physics with in-house technologies.
- kidfiji 2mo agoThat’s kind of the goal of S&Box, no? https://sbox.game https://sbox.game
- inigyou 2mo agoI thought the point of s&box was to make a very profitable micro transaction marketplace.
- throwaway27448 2mo agoIs literally invoking the havok api protected by licensing?
- ouchqt 2mo agoYep, IIRC Havok’s licensing explicitly disallows redistribution of their technology, including headers and pre-compiled binaries. Source 1 is a good example here, where licensees of source need to also obtain a havok license before Valve can give them any code.
- yakk0 2mo agolooking forward to see Action Retro's shenanigans on YouTube with this.
- jordand 2mo agoI've watched his previous videos on Haiku and haven't been impressed with him. He doesn't seem to have in-depth knowledge of how software and drivers work, which is especially important given how work-in-progress it all is, and that the lineage of Haiku goes back to BeOS. The community has done a lot of good work, and he doesn't grasp it fully.
- prmoustache 2mo agoYes, you have seen a video and you have seen them all. It can be resumed to "will it run minecrafts (or one of its clones)". I guess he figured out the short 10-15min format is better for engagement bevause people brains have been destroyed by tiktok and instagram reels and barely anyone can concentrate for 30min on a subject but really it makes for very uninformative vids.
- paulryanrogers 2mo agoSometimes there's just not more than 10-15min of content that even a (significant) niche audience would find interesting. There's also only so much time in a day / week to produce. The machine demands novelty.
- prmoustache 2mo agoAt some point your channel can only collapse when your content is resumed to: And today's sponsor is a brand I will lie about for 2 minutes...thank you for watching, please click and subscribe! It is only a matter of time.
- paulryanrogers 2mo agoIs that inevitable? I personally welcome creators moving to rely more on patronage systems (Patreon, Supporting Cast) from consumers, to gain/retain their independence from sponsors and platforms alike. Full disclosure, I work for Supporting Cast ;)
- parisiansam 2mo agoi wonder how many people are using haikuos enough to make frontpage of video game on that os ?
- nemomarx 2mo agoWhen people get doom running on a toaster, do you also ask how many people game on a toaster? It's more about the technical challenge of the whole deal.
- nharada 2mo agoI love it, this is OG hacker news
- InsideOutSanta 2mo agoI wonder how many people are flying to space in rockets for rocket launches to make the frontpage? It's just interesting. Haiku is cool, and getting relatively complex games to run on it is a good signal that it is making progress.
- paisawalla 2mo agoAdd in the number of people who have fond memories of BeOS
- ErroneousBosh 2mo ago.o/ But then what did you expect?
- AshamedCaptain 2mo agoWhat I find depressing is because of idiotic Linux policies, it turns out nvidia hardware is easier to run on a 3rd party OS than hardware with otherwise fully open source drivers like Radeon. This is just yet another example that you may think things in the hardware world have changed now that Linux "rules", but they have not.
- tadfisher 2mo agoAre you talking about driver ABIs or something else?
- Quitschquat 2mo agoWhat makes it easier?
- AshamedCaptain 2mo agoSee the first message of TFA. The author complains that amdgpu has way too many linuxisms that make it impractical to port it to non-Linux ( unless you are already emulating Linux). On the other hand, the nv kernel driver is portable, up to the point that it is easier to port that to Haiku and then change the entire Mesa to use it than it is to port amdgpu (which wouldn't need Mesa changes).
- hnlmorg 2mo agoOf course a Linux driver is going to make use of Linuxims. That’s literally the point of a Linux device driver. Given how performance-sensitive device like a graphics card is, you’d naturally want as few abstractions between your OS and your hardware as possible.
- AshamedCaptain 2mo agoBut there is no evidence whatsoever for what you are saying (in fact the nvidia drivers are portable and may perform comparably or even better than the free ones). On the other hand here we have evidence of how this has made it impossible for any OS other than Linux to provide support for amdgpu (except if you rip a huge chunk of Linux code, which only works if your OS is extremely UNIX-like to begin with), while other OSes support NVidia cards just fine (which do not really have a complete free driver to begin with!).
- MomsAVoxell 2mo agoThis is great, but can we get a port to BeBox please. ;)
- limsungkee 2mo agoDang. Half-Life 2 ruled my high school life. it is still insane.
- tracker1 2mo agoNifty to see... I always liked BeOS/Haiku from a tech perspective, but really don't care nearly as much for the UX or ergonomics... I really like a lot of the Windows 10 start menu and taskbar, but I do hate the MS search results/ads,etc so I switched to Linux for non-work and mostly Cosmic since later alphas.
- bluedino 2mo agoThe UX has always been my favorite part. It's like some mixup of OS/2 and Classic Mac OS
- tracker1 2mo agoReminds me a bit more of Amiga... that said, I just don't like the "handle" on the windows, and the launcher is a bit odd imo.
- throwaway27448 2mo agoHaiku will always be my favorite UX just for the ability to universally modify gui modifier keys distinct from changing the actual key mappings. Ie you can choose whether to use control or command as the main modifier—very slick, makes linux and windows feel like some creaky eighties remnant.
- tracker1 2mo agoI used to use a shell replacement in the Win2K era that I could do very similar.. I don't even recall what it was called, but you could completely customize pretty much everything. On win2k in particular (vs 9x/me) you could use transparency with the images in the UI/UX. It was pretty nice at the time... When Win7 came out, I liked the taskbar/menu there more and just went stock.
- smallstepforman 2mo agoX512 is an amazing treasure in the Haiku community. Other than nVidia hardware accelerated drivers, he ported Haiku to RiscV, got sound through HDMI and DisplayPort working, he got AMD Vulkan drivers for Southern Islands chipsets also working, made break throughs in dozens of other porting projects, he’s an amazing Hacker par excellance virtually unknown outside the Haiku community.
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- m0do1 2mo agoAs a long time BeOS fan (and user back in the day) I really enjoy reading about progress on Haiku. Similarly cool as the Half-Life 2 port is the work on the ARM platform. With early support for M1 Macs (https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/my-haiku-arm64-progress/19044/30 https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/my-haiku-arm64-progress/19044...) and Raspberry Pi 500+ (https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/my-haiku-arm64-progress/19044/83 https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/my-haiku-arm64-progress/19044...).
- jocular 2mo agoBut can it run Crysis?
- anthk 2mo agoUnder Wine? Yes.
- Greed 2mo agoHats off to the folks behind this for keeping such a cool project alive! This, ReactOS, and TempleOS have been my answer to the question of: "what should I install if I'm looking for something interesting?" for at least a decade. Obviously for vastly different reasons.
- grishka 2mo agoI half-jokingly thought to myself, "of course it's all software rendering, Haiku doesn't have GPU drivers", so imagine my amazement when I saw that this thread is about porting an NVidia GPU driver from Linux, and HL2 does, in fact, run with hardware acceleration.
- graemep 2mo agoThe title is heavily editorialised and misleading. When I see how much progress has been made on Haiku I wonder whether it can be used as a daily driver.
- mghackerlady 2mo agoIt's about as daily driveable as BeOS was in its heyday