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1worldflag: A blue dot on a transparent background
- adzm 3mo agoTransparency in a flag is new to me. It's surprisingly effective here. Could this be done with just cloth without synthetics by using thinner threads or thread count?
- kelseyfrog 3mo agoThe microplastics inherent in synthetics is the point.
- BSDobelix 3mo agoGood one ;) and a flag should never be wet, so cover it in Teflon.
- alm4x 3mo agoThe website mentions silk organza at https://1worldflag.com/flag/ https://1worldflag.com/flag/. That's where my mind went initially, some kind of sheer silk fabric. I don't know how durable it would be in the elements though.
- nextaccountic 3mo agoThat would be the first flag that isn't vegan, which.. doesn't look very cool
- benj111 3mo agoI'm sure there have been plenty of flags that haven't been vegan.
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- nyanmatt 3mo agoYou could make any flag out of non-vegan materials, sure. But that this flag was designed with the basis of cruelty (silk) makes it also conceptually non-vegan. What a great way to unite the world in a practice of cruelty to its inhabitants - 1worldforhumansonlyflag - 1worldindifferenttosufferingflag The whole idea falls flat on its face because of this for me.
- fiatpandas 3mo agoI also love the transparency and am surprised it hasn’t been used more. Granted, it would be very difficult to achieve with natural materials and also be durable. A flag should be able to withstand an ocean voyage exposed to the elements.
- rob74 3mo agoI think you pointed out very well why it hasn't been used more: lack of durability. Either it has to be some kind of plastic foil, in which case it has to be thin enough to fly in the wind the same way as a traditional flag does, so it will degrade very quickly when exposed to the elements. Or the silk organza suggested on the page, but if it's thin enough to be (almost) transparent I'm not convinced that it would fare much better. So, nice idea, but completely impractical, which makes it a gimmick.
- invalidusernam3 3mo agoIt's a novel and fun idea! I also wonder how it would be represented correctly as a digital image, could be as an actual png or maybe the white/grey checker pattern from PhotoShop? Realistically probably just with a white background
- lloeki 3mo agoI feel what makes it work well here is also that it's not perfectly transparent so you can still see it wave in the wind and make out it's rectangular shape. I'd definitely take that into consideration for a digital version.
- anaumann 3mo ago>> I'd definitely take that into consideration for a digital version. Finally, an application for Apple‘s Liquid Glass UI
- hsbauauvhabzb 3mo agoSeems unfair to associate anything good with that abomination.
- lloeki 3mo agoWell given there's no abuse of refractive light bending it looks more like whatever frosted glass existed before liquid glass. Also this flag has square corners.
- bux93 3mo agoNot great for t-shirts
- account42 3mo agoOn the contrary, T-shirts of it will be very effective at calling attention to the flag.
- mieses 3mo agoglitter and foil will blow you away
- lanyard-textile 3mo agoLove the idea. But the transparency :( It makes the whole flag low contrast, an undesirable quality in flags.
- s20n 3mo agobut that's the wrong shade of blue? It'd have been great if they took the colour from "The blue marble" instead of this Turbo Pascal blue.
- dylan604 3mo agoMaybe they couldn't find American Flag Blue??? Or is that reserved for swimming pools now?
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- moss_dog 3mo agoWhat do you mean by "wrong"? I reckon the actual color doesn't matter as long as it's blue-ish. There are no branding guidelines or anything. Even the size of the circle is unspecified, which IMO is a feature, not a bug. It's accessible :) EDIT: I'm incorrect, there is a spec. Whelp! I still like my imagined more-flexible version of the flag.
- dheera 3mo agoIt is the 16-color VGA version of blue, not the version of blue you'd pick if you had a 24-bit color display. This website reminds me of the early 90s internet because of the specific shade of blue they picked.
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- seirim 3mo agoTry to add a favicon for the website if you can guys, a blue dot would work well here.
- vhcmlctibbkgx 3mo ago[dead]
- rrgok 3mo agoI don't like the color blue. Can we change it?
- water-data-dude 3mo agoHumanity's working on it, lol
- xgkickt 3mo agoBlue needs to be paler, and the dot smaller ;-)
- et1337 3mo agoCan’t wait for CGP Grey’s review of this flag
- monkeywork 3mo agois he still making content it feels like its been forever since ive heard anything about him
- boxed 3mo agoThat's what we always say between videos :P
- aquariusDue 3mo agoHe's got a regular monthly podcast called Codex if you're into that format too.
- RugnirViking 3mo ago*cortex
- aquariusDue 3mo agoOops, my bad! Thanks for correcting!
- jrflo 3mo agoHe hasn't been on cortex for over a year
- aquariusDue 3mo agoOh... I didn't realize, thanks for clarifying!
- latexr 3mo agoLike so many other creators, seems like Grey’s main focus might now be on podcasts. Easier to produce and monetise.
- Leptonmaniac 3mo agoSo this is effectively the Esperanto of flags?
- hackernulls 3mo agoYep, that no one uses too.
- jszymborski 3mo agoEsperanto actually already has a flag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_symbols#/media/File%3A2008_uk_flagoj.JPG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_symbols#/media/File%...
- layer8 3mo agoHe asked about the Esperanto of flags, not about the flags of Esperanto.
- jszymborski 3mo agoWouldn't the Esperanto of Flags be the flag of Esperanto?
- layer8 3mo agoThe Esperanto of sign languages wouldn’t inherently be the sign language of Esperanto. The same goes for flags.
- jszymborski 3mo agoI guess we'll just have to agree to disagree!
- TwoFerMaggie 3mo agoI suppose a lot of flags are esperanto of flags...
- rolymath 3mo agoJudging by the comments here, the 1worldflag should have been a picture of two people arguing.
- grebc 3mo agoYes! Classic. We don’t have an outside enemy atm so we squabble amongst ourselves, it’s a pattern as old as humans have gathered into groups.
- hgoel 3mo agoProbably more fitting as the flag of HN
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- NordStreamYacht 3mo agoEsperanto flag.
- nickandbro 3mo agoThis will be needed for the galactic civil wars that will soon take place.
- ARandomerDude 3mo agoWhat if we took Japan’s flag, imagined it printed on paper, but made the dot blue?
- Skidaddle 3mo agoVery cool, hard to beat the Earthican flag though https://theinfosphere.org/images/1/17/Earth_Flag.svg https://theinfosphere.org/images/1/17/Earth_Flag.svg
- slekker 3mo agoDid you miss an "/s"? That's horrendous!
- fc417fc802 3mo agoNot at all - it's clearly intended as a threat. /s
- Skidaddle 3mo agoYes it’s from Futurama
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- pixlmint 3mo agoHoly typo… does the one world not have proofreaders?
- amarant 3mo agoNope! They were sent off along with other useful professionals such as telephone cleaners on a big space ship!
- simondotau 3mo agoLike all flags, this will come to represent those who choose to fly it, and the causes they fly it for. Which then makes them symbols of the ideas opposed by people who think flag waving is cringe.
- patates 3mo agoI like the direction of unity but this will probably be problematic when we eventually start to colonize other planets. I don't want our first settlers to feel discriminated, so please kindly make a new version with more universality - now that I think about it, Universal Pictures also has the world in their logo so maybe this IS universal but we probably we need Jim and Hannah in the loop as well so they can chime in, and last but not least, we need a review from the legal so I CC'd to all, expect some new ideas/requirements. Also, can we please make it "pop"? ps. Attaching a version I made, and this took a lot of back and forth with chatgpt because I care about this a lot, so please have a look, I think we are close to something great here! Looking forward to seeing more from you! ps2. when I was about to send our manufacturing guy entered the room and he said the transparency could be a problem. Some alternatives without compromising the idea would be great! They must be cheap but elegant! Thank you!!
- reconnecting 3mo ago> we eventually start to colonize other planets. Could you please clarify which ones? I'm planning my escape, but it seems that even lightspeed wouldn't be enough to colonize anything suitable.
- boxed 3mo agoEh? If you go at light speed you can literally go everywhere in the universe subjectively instantly due to time dilation.
- reconnecting 3mo ago> If you go at light speed I will certainly not. And even if I did — within any reachable radius there's nothing actually suitable, everything is 10+ ly away, but maybe I missed something.
- hgoel 3mo agoIf you were traveling very close to light speed, time dilation would mean your experience of time is slowed down, such that if you can go infinitely close to the speed of light, you can travel anywhere as quickly as you have the energy for. For an observer on Earth you'd still take however many lightyears away the location is.
- karol 3mo agoI would live to see the transparency around the funding and goals of this project.
- nakedneuron 3mo agoLacking transparency is a red flag.
- prox 3mo agoNothing a good conversation to PNG can’t fix
- pelagicAustral 3mo agoThank you for flagging this issue.
- butlike 3mo agoThat's deeply funny since the Japanese flag is opaque white and red
- suddenlybananas 3mo agoLooks like something out of 1997.
- visha1v 3mo agothe most european thing i’ve seen today
- glerk 3mo agoI like this. And furthermore, it is my opinion that all current nation states should be dismantled.
- legostormtroopr 3mo agoAnd replaced with what?
- BSDobelix 3mo agoHave you read the utopian book "Starship Troopers" from Heinlein ;)
- elictronic 3mo agoIt had a real Mary Poppins feel when interacting with the skinnies.
- glerk 3mo agoThat can be figured out after the dismantling process :) My personal utopian take: smaller communities/city-states that would naturally coalesce into more fluid confederations. A lot of these communities could also be distributed and non-local.
- Towaway69 3mo agoMoney.
- altmanaltman 3mo agogood opinion and one that most agree with what most don't agree with: what happens next?
- yanhangyhy 3mo agocivil war?
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- hotep99 3mo agoWill be useful for the inevitable war against the offworld colonies.
- layer8 3mo agoThe Land of the Rising Sea.
- mock-possum 3mo agoLooks too much like japan’s flag. Let’s try an earth and a sunrise behind it - half a circle sitting on the bottom of the rectangle, and a yellow circle making a sunrise on top of that, like a yolk sitting on a blue egg.
- pixel_popping 3mo agoIt should be a different color, because this will be attached to either politics (which you don't want) or EU (which you also don't want), some completely independent color could actually trigger curiosity to look it up.
- its-summertime 3mo agoI believe its a reference to the planet being a pale blue dot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot
- scratcheee 3mo agoDisagree, though you’re right it’s a little bit similar to the eu flag, but only a little, plenty of countries manage with more similar flags. Flags don’t exist for the period where they’re gaining recognition. Compromising the significance of the iconography for the temporary gain of not being misidentified during the period it isn’t recognisable would just mean if it gains recognition it will forever be less than it could be. In other words, with flags you need to play to win, not to survive. Better that the attempt have a higher risk of failure with a great flag than a lower risk with a mediocre flag. The pale blue dot is an excellent way to represent a global outlook and “we’re all in it together”, not sure I can think of a better pedigree for this concept. I’d perhaps have been tempted to make it a smaller blue dot, but flags do need to be recognised at a distance, so it can’t be too much smaller.
- trashb 3mo agoI like the idea to have a symbol to unite the world under one flag. The blue dot seems to make sense as it represents the world without focusing on one perspective or projection of the world map. The transparent background also makes sense for the flag, but I think it would be more recognizable if it was just a white background (in my mind the default flag background). Also it seems to me transparent materials are in general more polluting. On the website it mentions a black background was considered (I suppose representing space). It would be nice if there was an alternative version chosen without the transparency for mediums where transparency is not an option either black or white would suffice imho. As others mentioned it does seem very similar (same proportions) as the Japanese flag. I wonder what the opinion of the Japanese is on this concept.
- Theodores 3mo agoNote that blue was an expensive colour until recent times. Painters would use it sparingly. Nowadays blue is easy and common in flags, and much else, so this flag design is high tech.
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- bloak 3mo agoThere are lots of world flags: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Earth https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Earth_Flag_Simple.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Earth_Flag_Simple.sv...
- arrowsmith 3mo agoDon't forget Futurama's: https://futurama.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Freebie https://futurama.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Freebie
- MisterTea 3mo agoIt's in the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Earth#Futurama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Earth#Futurama
- layer8 3mo ago…which also lists this thread’s flag, that apparently is from 2016.
- caseyohara 3mo agoI quite like the James W. Cadle one from 1970.
- masfuerte 3mo agoYes. It has the simplicity of a traditional flag but recognisably represents the earth. The 2016 one (which this thread is about) is too similar to the Japanese flag. Or the Blaupunkt logo.
- Groxx 3mo agoSurprisingly, none with crabs on them. Carcinization will fix that eventually. And then Roko's Crabulisk will hunt down everyone who didn't vote for the crab flag.
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- spondyl 3mo agoI can't help but be distracted by the 26MB flag video that my fibre connection is only able to download at 150 KB/sec here in New Zealand?
- oniony 3mo agoIt's totally worth the wait.
- vintagedave 3mo agoI appreciate the ethos of unity, but in a sense it scares me were this ever to be political unity -- because I don't trust it would remain (or even ever be) democratic and free. We see so many examples of power hurting citizens in existing nations. The risk if the entire world had one political unity, of losing freedom, is extreme. With multiple nations and blocs, at least some remain showing an example of what can exist in the others.
- pelagicAustral 3mo agoThe only way we'll going to achieve anything remotely akin to World Unity™ is as some form of dystopic Warhammer 40K future. You try putting even 5 people in a root have them reach consensus on anything.
- mattvr 3mo agoIs there information on the license of this flag? Not how/if clear you can reproduce it legally.
- hermitcrab 3mo agoSomeone made a flag to express unity and we've just all come here to argue about it. How very human.
- BSDobelix 3mo agoAre not ~all flags made to express unity? However that one looks better: https://www.flagofplanetearth.com/ https://www.flagofplanetearth.com/ Fight me :)
- butlike 3mo agoWhat are these marketing sites advertising the Earth flag? Who's buying?!
- BSDobelix 3mo agoFord Prefect as a Souvenir?
- jslakro 3mo agoI wouldn't trust any flag with a hexiform shape. I mean, hexagons can be found in the wild but one perfect circle reflects better our human nature
- hermitcrab 3mo ago>Are not ~all flags made to express unity? Usually the unity of some humans against other humns.
- amai 3mo agoWill we put this flag on the moon?
- stevenalowe 3mo agoHow about a pale blue dot on a black background
- ChiperSoft 3mo agoNothing says "I care about the earth" like a giant sheet of plastic.
- lolc 3mo agoThe flag is not plastic. https://1worldflag.com/flag/ https://1worldflag.com/flag/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organza https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organza
- butlike 3mo agoIt should be a white flag. All the colors, and the fact we embraced it as a flag of unity over a flag of surrender should say all there is to say about us getting over our differences. Edit: From Wikipedia: (A white flag) serves as an internationally recognized sign of truce and negotiation, meaning "we want to talk". It emerged as an ideal symbol for peace because it is highly visible on the battlefield, is easy to make, and doesn't belong to any specific nation.
- g_delgado14 3mo agoWhite flags are commonly associated with defeat in battle. Probably not the vibe one wants.
- mplanchard 3mo agofrom the post you replied to: > and the fact we embraced it as a flag of unity over a flag of surrender should say all there is to say about us getting over our differences
- insane_dreamer 3mo agohard to change an association that has been around for millennia (literally)
- mplanchard 3mo agoYeah I don’t disagree, but I think the difficulty is kind of the point in the GP’s post: it would take an unprecedented era of peace for us to collectively agree that the idea of “surrender” is an anachronism ready to be reclaimed for a better purpose.
- snypher 3mo agoWhich is why we still worship man-with-bird-head and make sacrifices to the Sun at solstice.
- dwoldrich 3mo agoModern invented flag peddlers only seek to have us fly flags of the division they seek to generate. I only fly the flag of the country I live in and give side eye to anyone that does otherwise.
- scared_together 3mo agoIs this a trend? Do you have any other examples? And what division would a world flag generate??
- pessimizer 3mo ago> And what division would a world flag generate? It's just a way of saying that you're too good for your neighbors. That's why it would appeal to liberals and libertarians alike.
- dwoldrich 3mo agoSome enjoy their local cultures, customs and sovereignty and do not wish to dissolve into a homogenized nowhere-land of world culture/governance. Some people do not cheer for dystopia. Continue with the scold though, very convincing argument so far.
- alexb_ 3mo agoAs someone living in Omaha, this has just a little bit of a conflict lmao.....
- linsomniac 3mo agoI recently was listening to a 99 Percent Invisible podcast: Citizen of the World https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/665-citizen-of-the-world/ https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/665-citizen-of-the-wo... It's about a guy who has been fighting for ~50 years to be able to be a citizen of no country. I left that episode thinking "This is the hero we need right now." He has set up the World Citizen Government https://worldcitizengov.org/ https://worldcitizengov.org/
- metalman 3mo agoALL flags(standards/banners) are war symbols, declarations of intent to attack and of terrtory held by conquest, tribes,nations, and franchises alike. Any attemp to float the idea of a world flag is a (hidden attempt) of a declaration of total war on all countrys simultaneously, which unfortunatly is too ridiculous to even get points on style. Fashists always have some sort of fashion kink branding thing plus a cult of personality to get things going, but this one needs WAY too much explaining.
- ball_of_lint 3mo agoThis is simply not true. Pride flags. Edit: Also the Esperanto Flag.
- metalman 3mo agopride flags, ha!, used durring "pride marches" hung out directly with national, corporate, municipal flags,are you kidding me? ALL flags are teritorial/tribal declarations with violence (police,security), as the ONLY default response to a challenge so what? exactly? will happen if someone makes a habit of pulling down "pride" flags?
- tamimio 3mo agoThat grade of blue is more like Neptune than earth, or blue giant.
- soupspaces 3mo ago"govvie bad so we make giga govment, then no bad" Instead of cool cool water make it an income distribution chart. More realistic.
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- melonpan7 3mo agoI love the initiative, I understand the transparency, although it doesn't really look that great imo.
- flybrand 3mo agoHow would we represent this as a sticker on a vehicle? White outline around the clear field w blue dot?
- nmeofthestate 3mo agoThe apotheosis of Reddit vexillology where all flag symbolism maps to geographical features.
- somerandom2407 3mo agoI don't like it and I wasn't consulted about it. Given it is supposed to be representative of a united humanity or something like that, I'd be interested to know what proportion of the 8 billion people were consulted in its creation.
- mieses 3mo agoThe Empire of the Rising Blue Ink Dot (of the unelected EU bureaucracy).
- oniony 3mo agoIf you're going to change my mouse pointer into a circle can you at least make the activation point the centre of the circle?
- nogajun 3mo agoThat’s really interesting. Currently, Japan’s ruling party, the LDP, is considering legislation to criminalize the desecration of the Japan flag. If that law is passed, carrying that flag would constitute a crime of desecrating the Japan flag. Even without such a law, simply carrying that flag would likely prompt the far right to view it as an alteration of the Japan flag and attack you for it. - LDP pushes flag desecration law; expert questions its necessity | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis: https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/16506155 https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/16506155
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- clickety_clack 3mo agoGlobal government sounds terrible. Most people don’t live in western liberal democracies, so I assume a world government would be something other than that. I have no interest in living under a government that promises the average political, religious, personal and economic environment of the world.